Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
wyase9 said:
Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
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To say anything on how it will be implemented on the S2 would be pure conjecture. No one knows yet.
Its still in the middle of being ported/hacked over to our device, with no official Samsung ICS Roms released/leaked yet.
Regarding the 'on screen button' query, it would seem that ICS would detect capacitative buttons, and thus hide the on-screen buttons.
Hi,
First of all i wouldnt class a Galaxy S2 as an older phone, samsung have made a point of holding back on the Galaxy Nexus hardware so it doesnt outdo there own flagship model.
Yesterday, I compared a Galaxy Nexus to my Galaxy S2 running the ICS alpha and was slightly disappointed that the Galaxy Nexus screen didnt look any different to my GS2 both in screen real estate and screen clarity.
I doubt very much ICS will reduce battery life as the hardware acceleration should help matters as there will be less reliance on the phone CPU to draw things the GPU can draw easily.
The onscreen buttons can be easily disabled and dont offer anything that the GS2 hardware buttons dont. If anything the GS2 has the advantage of a menu button which you dont get on the Nexus and until the majority of apps put a software menu button on their apps it's going to cause issues, i thought that the software buttons would be more intellegent and add a menu button for legacy apps but they just seem to stay the same buttons all the time. I know paul o'brian has done a custom mod for this so hopefully google with do the same.
I personnally am happy with my GS2 hardware, the issue for me is software and whether i can wait for 4.0 either official or unofficial.
graemefaulkner said:
i thought that the software buttons would be more intellegent and add a menu button for legacy apps but they just seem to stay the same buttons all the time.
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There actually IS a "virtual menu button" for those apps who use the menu.
But it's rather small and easy to miss.
It's on the far right, looks like three dots above each other, I could use all "old" apps I tried so far with it and effectively not using the "real" buttons at all.
I hope if ROM cooks tend to remove the on-screen buttons, they keep an option to re-enable them, 'cause I really like them
(and they are NOT showing up in the SDK emulator, so it does seem to have some kind of detection.)
ICS does not show the Virtual Buttons on devices with HW Keys.
Thats an absolute, 100% given, please stop discussing about it.
The Galaxy S II has a better GPU and a CPU I'd call Equal with the one of the Galaxy Nexus, also the screen has a way lower resolution, so it might even run smoother than on the Galaxy Nexus,
But what about future apps.....if they are built to a standard 720p resolution, then will the Samsung galaxy S2 suffer then compared to the Nexus which has similar spec - ie do you think we will get new apps that will run better on a 720p screen which looks likely to be more standard in all future high spec phones ?
In my opinion, Galaxy S2 will perform much better on ICS than Gingerbread, considering ICS will actually utilize DUAL-CORE efficiently, rather than just burning battery on two-cores just to work one-core...
It's like XP before & after SP2
wyase9 said:
But what about future apps.....if they are built to a standard 720p resolution, then will the Samsung galaxy S2 suffer then compared to the Nexus which has similar spec - ie do you think we will get new apps that will run better on a 720p screen which looks likely to be more standard in all future high spec phones ?
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You are trying to find a future-proof a device. Well - it ain't gonna work. Technology moves at a quick pace. At most - I can say GSII may work super well with all apps (and games) until a point when it has become the standard for all screen resolutions to be 720p or 1080p or 9040p. This may be in 2 or 3 years.
Besides, an app developer would make their app compatible with all devices UNLESS they intended it to run purely on a certain resolution.
Nexus phone isn't better than the GSII by the way. It just has ICS on it. =/
Thanks for all of you inputs guys.
Sounds like the GS2 will work as well with ICS if not better.
It also comes across that although the screen size if the GS2 is smaller than the GNex, it is more or less cancelled out seeing as the GNex has to use some screen for the virtual buttons at the bottom, wheras the GS2 will not have to use any screen on this.......therefore negating the screen real-estate difference.......right ?
Then it only comes down to resolution between the two.
For a much lower resolution, the GS2 still looks amazing to the eye, which makes me wonder what the real worls advantages will be of the higher resolution screen on the GNex.
Could it be the web page layout or looks when they load up ?
Could it be noticed when playing media ?
I am not sure anymore.
Ideally the resolution advantage comes into play during
1. Browsing, especially while reading small text as very small letters can be drawn accurately.
2. Pictures will be more clearer, especially some wallpapers do ask for more resolution.
3. Video playback
Altogether everything will appear more smooth and clear. So a welcome thing this resolution is. But nexus has pentile display and there are chances this might offset the resolution advantage mainly during text diaplays
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I agree with the last comment to an extent. But we are talking about a phone screen with hundreds of pixels already.
To the normal user in the real world, do you still think that applies ? Ie the text might be a little clearer, but is it not darn clear already on the lower GS2 resolution ?
And wallpapers - even if it was origianlly a 720p picture and the GS2 resizes it, would the average guy out there be able to distingush ?
wyase9 said:
Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
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Here http://t.co/RzNWJWcQ , Have a look how stock ICS looks and works on GSII. And all this is done without any driver source code. Imagine how quick it would be when samsung does ICS with proper drivers.
At least Samsung confirmed they will release ICS to S2. When? That's a different story... Probably late next year.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
The SIIIs SVoice looks like the first app that can compete with Siri in a GUI and asthetic front. Is it likely to be ported over for other roms? I imagine it will depend on how deeply it's integrated into Wiz, or whether or not it's a stand alone app?
For standard ICS Touchwiz Sansung Device, it should be able to do so, but to make it a standalone app like VLingo being ripped from a SGS II or A Note to another device, it may not work, exactly due to the reason you specified on how deeply its integrated.
That amongst a few more features is what I would like to see ported over to the Note or the SGS II.
So I got this Galaxy S7 clone a month ago, and I thought whoever made this counterfeit probably forgot to replicate some of the stuff in it like the browser and keyboard, being those two were lifted off an earlier Android version. I was wondering if there are apps taken off similar clones that resemble the real deal, or if there are other applications which can be themed to look like their Touchwiz equivalents.
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I just made the jump from an A71 to the M51.
So far they're really comparable phones, but I"m really do kind of miss 2 pieces of bloatware that I felt samsung actually excels at
I was trying to side load Samsung Side panel, and Smart select.
Any idea how I can accomplish this. I found the Apk's but they won't install
Is the reasoning due to being CORE one UI and not the true one UI?
Thanks.
Probably they need some framework libs that the m51 doesn't have
did u get android 11? side panels are ON
Devilmonkey27 said:
I just made the jump from an A71 to the M51.
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The reason is than on A70 you had full OneUi while on M51 there is a stripped down version - CoreUi
With Android 11 you will get side panel
This way Samsung tries to differentiate M and A serie ( when latter is to be considered upper midrange ) while hardware differencies between those 2 series are minor
See:
OPPO’s Find N foldable is more compact and cheaper than the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3
The OPPO Find N is a new foldable featuring a large landscape screen and an affordable price tag. Read on to learn more.
www.xda-developers.com
Anyone has Any idea on how to link my oppo find N to an external monitor for desktop mode?
There is an integrated oppo proprietary option to replicate the phones screen to the PC (also works in big screen mode). This is called PC Connect and can be accessed via the toggles. Probably not what you were looking for but if its to use your phone on a PC, it will be ok. If you look for something like DeX.
Looking at the Fold 4, I still see our beloved Find N ways ahead. Hope we will get the AA issues solved with Android 13 but chances are small.
deepsync said:
Looking at the Fold 4, I still see our beloved Find N ways ahead. Hope we will get the AA issues solved with Android 13 but chances are small.
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I have my Fold 4 on pre-order. After struggling to do anything semi functionally with the Find N since release I have had enough. I will be sad to see the size, build quality and colour (purple) of the Find N go, but I am ridiculously excited about regaining seamless functionality (along with my sanity). On top of the lack of user friendliness / simplicity aside, not having Android Auto and Google Pay has almost killed me (haha)
I am just looking forward to everything seamlessly working out of the box, not to mention what Samsung have achieved with 4 generations of folding devices. S Pen / crazy multitasking / independent cover + home screens etc.
Oppo might have Samsung up against the ropes regarding innovative design and build quality, but they have a hell of a lot to catch up on in terms of user friendliness / software / functionality (which at the end of the day I have come to realise is far more important to me)
Tim-2.0 said:
I have my Fold 4 on pre-order. After struggling to do anything semi functionally with the Find N since release I have had enough. I will be sad to see the size, build quality and colour (purple) of the Find N go, but I am ridiculously excited about regaining seamless functionality (along with my sanity). On top of the lack of user friendliness / simplicity aside, not having Android Auto and Google Pay has almost killed me (haha)
I am just looking forward to everything seamlessly working out of the box, not to mention what Samsung have achieved with 4 generations of folding devices. S Pen / crazy multitasking / independent cover + home screens etc.
Oppo might have Samsung up against the ropes regarding innovative design and build quality, but they have a hell of a lot to catch up on in terms of user friendliness / software / functionality (which at the end of the day I have come to realise is far more important to me)
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BTW Google Pay works seamlessly on the find N.
But I get your point. At the end it's android to support big screens and multitasking. As such I guess we will see a lot of improvements with the A13 release for the Find N as well.
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deepsync said:
BTW Google Pay works seamlessly on the find N.
But I get your point. At the end it's android to support big screens and multitasking. As such I guess we will see a lot of improvements with the A13 release for the Find N as well.
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I see people saying it works fine, however I found that it kept on automatically removing / deleting my cards (which got pretty annoying)
Also, it completely stopped working once I installed Android 13 developer preview (which I am currently running), as the firmware isn't officially signed by Google and it thinks the device is compromised / rooted / custom ROM etc