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Hi,
Some really bad news for anyone that's been unfortunate enough to purchase an A7 EU version.
I have contacted ZTEUK on FB messenger directly to ask about the Nougat update and this is their exact response.
"Hi Mike, Please keep an eye out on our social channels for any information regarding updates. We do not currently have plans to update to Nougat though this may change. Thanks, the ZTE UK team."
Taking into account the amount of EU phones out there this is beyond dreadful in terms of treatment, the question is, where do we go from here? I didn't want to bother rooting the phone, but is there any option left now it's possibly not getting the update at all?
No daydream, no patch fixes, no volume fix, the list goes on!!
How do we pressure ZTE into dealing with this, failing that what other options do we have?
Mike
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
iNaruX said:
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
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I hope so, that brings some comfort, really the reps should not give throw away replies like that.
Thanks :good:
Don't worry, it just furthers the idea that global organization of ZTE is totally lacking, especially for their EU customers (far behind their american ones). Nougat was announced first by ZTE Germany back in November (originally planned for end of january) and is currently undergoing beta testing as far as I know. The thing is, ZTE Germany is apparently taking care of the dev for the G version but they officially supports only german customers, even if they kinda tried to create an "european" community. Other european branches (it's the case for ZTE france at least) of ZTE seem to be only PR posting advertisement on facebook/twitter. IMO, your rep just copy pasted the basic stonewalling response to this question and has either no information whatsoever or wanted to answer politely without getting carried away.
(If anyone has more info, feel free to correct me)
G Variant will sure get the Nougat Update soon, ZTE UK should know this too dont know why you got this answer from them. But if you G Variant user, follow ZTE Mobile Deutschland on Facebook
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that the Axon 2017G will also get Nougat. They are usually a little behind the US team with releases so I imagine it will probably be sometime in March
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
The G Variant needs more time than us because they want to fix all founded bugs and increase the quality. like musicdjm said, it will release end feb. or beginning of march. zte could Release it in the end of January but there were too many bug, because of that they started a beta test phase and postponed the Release date
mario972 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
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musicdjm said:
You can NOT, the team installed system checks to make sure of this as they have different bootloader and modem
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Have you done this yourself and it worked;
Yes and yes
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Can you please point me the thread where these files and the guide to do it are?
Chinese android 7?
I also interested in Chinese 7.0, no news or any rumours about it.
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Yes and yes
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Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
tester2017 said:
Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
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make sure to use su 2.79 (not sr3).
itsxiao said:
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
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I have the US ZTE Axon 7 (A2017U) and updated to Nougat. What is the WhatsApp bug again? I haven't noticed anything but you can tell me and I will cry in a corner once I know. :crying:
@op When everything else fails, go to change.org and create a petition. The ASUS Zenfone 2 users did that and they are apparently getting the Nougat update in July.
/xuggs
The Axon7 G Variant will directly get 7.1.1
Hey guys I was wondering is there any upcoming Oreo roms coming to the G5? Because I was snooping through the G3 forums and found a OREO rom for the G3 not 100% working but they have a rom on there so anything upcoming to the G5 guys? I know it sounds very very demanding but im really excited to use this new update or a new rom to the G5
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Hey guys I was wondering is there any upcoming Oreo roms coming to the G5? Because I was snooping through the G3 forums and found a OREO rom for the G3 not 100% working but they have a rom on there so anything upcoming to the G5 guys? I know it sounds very very demanding but im really excited to use this new update or a new rom to the G5
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No doubt oreo roms are coming up and since I also developed some roms I am 100% sure some oreo custom roms already exists but are disclosed for the developer himself to test and fix the issue. As you might know devs don't like to give users very experimental stuff. But you might have seen the oreo changes under the hood as one of the big things: Project Treble. (See this link for more without having to dig in google itself https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1 So other devices also have issues like bluetooth, camera and so on not working but I'm sure official oreo roms will come out within a period of 1-2 months as some phones already almost have fixed all oreo bugs like the HTC M10. Don't want to wait? Compile it yourself and contribute to the community if some devs aren't working on it already due to their lives/families I don't know whether LG G5 will reach oreo despite its age we all know how good manufacturer can be look at oneplus their software support for the oneplus 2 for instance. And the LG G5 is officially supported by LineageOS 15.0 if I'm correct. So just a little more patients
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No doubt oreo roms are coming up and since I also developed some roms I am 100% sure some oreo custom roms already exists but are disclosed for the developer himself to test and fix the issue. As you might know devs don't like to give users very experimental stuff. But you might have seen the oreo changes under the hood as one of the big things: Project Treble. (See this link for more without having to dig in google itself https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1 So other devices also have issues like bluetooth, camera and so on not working but I'm sure official oreo roms will come out within a period of 1-2 months as some phones already almost have fixed all oreo bugs like the HTC M10. Don't want to wait? Compile it yourself and contribute to the community if some devs aren't working on it already due to their lives/families I don't know whether LG G5 will reach oreo despite its age we all know how good manufacturer can be look at oneplus their software support for the oneplus 2 for instance. And the LG G5 is officially supported by LineageOS 15.0 if I'm correct. So just a little more patients
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Thats true. I can wait for the oreo roms to come up, Can't wait for the devs to make one thanks for telling me about whats going on means a lot
Weve got to let sweet rom cookies bake in the kitchen for a bit first
Anyone heard any rumors as to when our T-Mobile Note8's will be getting the Oreo update? I've looked online and have yet to find any predictions.
I hear the oreo beta program will start next month for the s8 which I'm a little upset about. I feel that the now the note 8 is the flagship device, Oreo beta should be on the note 8. The official release will probably be late January/early February if we're lucky
I don't care when it comes! I'm enjoying this phone as is.
I'd rather wait and have most bugs fixed, than rush the update and have some important functions not work any more and then wait on another update to fix the first one. Anything in particular In Oreo. that you're waiting for, or is it just newer must be better. Is it safe to assume they will patch current root exploit, because that maybe a reason for some to actually not update at all.
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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If you never rooted before, you have to read a lot before taking chances. There is always the risk of bricking your device. That being said, root gives you a lot of freedom to customize way beyond what stock allows. And you definitely will be able to update after LGs expiration date goes by. And there are lots of guides and help. @chazzmat has contributed a lot on this and many others here. And if you do your homework before dipping in you will probably do fine.
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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AT&T? Do you have a H931? If yes, AOSP based ROMs will only bootloop on your device :/
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
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What model variant do you have? For instance just Frankenstein converting any of the eligible North America carrier variants to carrier unlocked US998 model will remove most bloatware right there -- as it doesn't have any carrier bloatware.
Sure there's still stuff like LG Health, Facebook and Instagram -- but I do use LG Health. With root you can remove or freeze (with Titanium Backup) what do not want. Root gives you real "ownership", even if you don't install custom ROMs.
Also note the difference between stock-based ROMs and AOSP/LOS based ROMs.
As part of being the Google Enterprise Recommended program, LG had to commit to giving at 90 day updates for three years. This requirement kicked in once on Oreo. Yes the updates will probably mostly be the most recent Android security update, but the last US998 (20B) included silent notification fix. If you want to see abandonment, see what happens to the G7 and V35 which don't have that guarantee. Here's all the Google Enterprise Recommended program, if you are curious. For LG, it's only the V30 and G6.
https://www.android.com/enterprise/recommended/
Stay current with updates
Android Enterprise Recommended helps ensure devices are up to date with regular security patches delivered within 90 days (for 3 years, it says elsewhere).
Android Enterprise Recommended devices are also guaranteed to get at least one additional major OS update
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We'll probably get P (Pistachio?) but it'll probably be next summer. The Google Enterprise Recommended program also calls for at least one major OS letter update. I don't think LG can count the Nougat to Oreo upgrade, because they had to be on Oreo anyway to be on the Enterprise Recommended list.
Yes, we were promised 8.1 as part of the Google business program announcement, and it was 8.0. I don't know why.
I can't see LG giving both 8.1 and P to all their V30 models by next summer, so you're probably right you won't see 8.1 on stock unrooted firmware. But ROMs, even the stock-based ones can add features or fix problems.
With LG, their Korean carrier variants get all updates first (since all models are released there first), then trickle around the rest of the world. Once the Korea carrier variants got 8.0, nobody else was getting 8.1 until the Korea variants then get 8.1 (or whatever comes next for the V30).
As Oreo rolled out around the world for the V30, some people were breathlessly waiting to see if THEY would somehow magically get 8.1. No, LG doesn't change like that. To do that, they would have to cancel the scheduled round of updates, and start all over again with the Korean carrier variants -- rolling out 8.1 to them first. India, of course is last, because the V30 series was released there last.
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AT&T? Do you have a H931? If yes, AOSP based ROMs will only bootloop on your device :/
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Yes l, I have an H931, but I've read that if I convert to US998 I can still do it.
EatMoreB8con said:
Yes l, I have an H931, but I've read that if I convert to US998 I can still do it.
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Yes, actually you HAVE to convert to US998 to do it, so you have the requisite fastboot flash commands.
If for some reason you can't install AOSP ROMs on your converted H931>US998 ( @SGCMarkus knows more about his ROMs than I do, so I defer to him), there's still stock-based custom ROMs you can install which have improvements/fixes -- like Boombox and A.I.S. @SGCMarkus even made one, but it seems it's not been updated recently as he probably spends all his waking moments keeping about half a dozen AOSP ROMs updated! He's a one-man army.
He also is responsible for our updated TWRP.
you can install aosp roms on the converted h931, but the problem is that they will bootloop for some reason.
same for the h933 if i remember correctly
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Yes, actually you HAVE to convert to US998 to do it, so you have the requisite fastboot flash commands.
If for some reason you can't install AOSP ROMs on your converted H931>US998 @SGCMarkus knows more about his ROMs than I do, so I defer to him), there's still stock-based custom ROMs you can install which have improvements/fixes -- like Boombox and A.I.S. @SGCMarkus even made one but it seems it's not been updated recently as he probably spends all his waking moments keeping a dozen ROMs updated! He's a one-man army.
He also is responsible for our updated TWRP.
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Well I'll be sure to build a shrine for him if I ever go through with this lol. Thanks for the info.
Root: yes
Custom Rom: not necessarily.
Once you properly debloat it's a different experience already.
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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If you havent rooted yet there's a temporary solution that i can provide which i am personally using.
Regarding the bloatware and ui etc.
1. Get the app Package disabler pro, disable all the bloatware u want.U can disable anything and everything, even the camera , messaging app, dialer etc.
2. replace all the stock apps or whichever u want, with any other custom apps like the dialer, or messaging app or the launcher etc.
3. for overcoming monotony keep changing the themes and wallpapers
I wrote an email to the chief technical officer of ZTE and asked if development for the Axon 7 is still ongoing. Here is a screenshot of the answer.
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
MishaalRahman said:
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
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Pm for now to avoid possible email spamming.
As for all the others who read this, here is a little more explanation:
He is the technical chief officer of zte and stands in direct contact with the dev team. He is also the reason we got the zip for disabling system write protection in the first place. Without him i wouldn't have gotten the update.zip (with disabled system write protection) and @raystef66 couldn't have made a flashable zip for us.
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Volte works on Oreo china
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE should work on any of the big Oreo ROMs. WFC is hit or miss (even on stock ROM). I'm assuming Oreo is gonna be the last android version we can install and still have these things work (unless some dev out there finds a way to get past this roadblock in the future). Either way, I kinda doubt ZTE would provide any further updates for us beyond Oreo. I'm assuming that the response given in the OP meant that they would fix everything that's still broken and missing on 8.0; not begin development for Pie (especially since the Axon 10 is just around the corner, pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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It is if ZTE expect some form of customer loyalty on future purchase decisions. Would you buy the Axon 10/11/12 etc. based on your Axon 7 experience? Yes they had disruptions from trade sanctions etc. but that's not the consumers fault and imo ZTE should be doing everything they can to restore faith in their brand.
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE nd Wifi calling wok fine for me on ZTE's Oreo B20.
RobboW said:
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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The vendor partition stuff is something else entirely. Some people believed that ZTE would bring Treble support to the Axon while that made very little sense (Treble is a requirement for phones that SHIP with Oreo and above, but it's optional for Oreo, and its main advantage is it makes it easier for OEMs to update major Android versions). It was developed by djkuz and NFound eventually anyways, but only because of the generic ROM benefits
I don't think you can simply slap Android One certification on the middle of a product's life, but even if they could, it would make absolutely zero sense for them... Why be commited to security updates and newer Android versions on a phone that has surely stopped giving any revenue since long ago? Plus I'm not even sure if people prefer stock Android to stuff like One UI where you have a bunch of options
Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Marshmallow and Nougat were perfectly stable, if not the chinese versions. i'd say that counts.
The important thing is them fixing Daydream because it doesn't only entail adding daydream back, to run it properly you need to have thermals and the kernel properly tuned. Daydream should put the phone at ~1.3 GHz but I believe they'll have to mess around to make it work as intended anyways
plus all this is useful for LOS
Marshmallow and Nougat had a very bad design and UI because of mifavor. Oreo is nice but extremly unstable.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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All I'm saying is, @GodOfPsychos contacted this ZTE guy, he said that an update was going to be released, and then XDA'S EDITOR IN CHIEF contacted that guy and got the same response (with which an article was made). They can bail at any time, but it's not like they are promising Pie anyways
I'm guessing you can't see the attached screenie in the OP? I can see it just fine from XDA Labs
We won't get official Android Pie for Axon 7.
The most I read into that is update to include cut out features like Daydream, probably a security update too. Just a finish of what Oreo 8.0 was supposed to be. I don't think we will even see official Oreo 8.1
If they had just kept with the whole "best sounding phone" idea I'd probably already have bought another ZTE. It was the thing that distinguished them in the crowded market of samey-same phones. At this point I'm clinging to my Axon 7 with my tight little hands, and any update to its stability will be appreciated. [Full disclosure, I'm running the GSI Liquid Remix unofficial build of Pie, but if they do update the official Oreo and get it rock solid, I could see downgrading just to be on an official ROM.]