Anyone heard any rumors as to when our T-Mobile Note8's will be getting the Oreo update? I've looked online and have yet to find any predictions.
I hear the oreo beta program will start next month for the s8 which I'm a little upset about. I feel that the now the note 8 is the flagship device, Oreo beta should be on the note 8. The official release will probably be late January/early February if we're lucky
I don't care when it comes! I'm enjoying this phone as is.
I'd rather wait and have most bugs fixed, than rush the update and have some important functions not work any more and then wait on another update to fix the first one. Anything in particular In Oreo. that you're waiting for, or is it just newer must be better. Is it safe to assume they will patch current root exploit, because that maybe a reason for some to actually not update at all.
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Multiple android news sites has the v10 on the expected device list to get the update. I know it is too early to be speculating , but its in the final beta build before getting pushed out already. From what I read it is not a big update over Nougat, just some imprivements. What is your take on it?
I would take those news with a grain of salt. We were nearly denied Nougat in the first place, so a change of mind by LG at the last moment was a pleasant surprise. We'd be lucky if we receive build 7.1.1 .
I am sure what im gonna to say now:
Forget Android O on LG V10, LG make Nougat with no love because this device is so underated and people are angry back when LG in a note saying V10 and G4 will not get Nougat...LG change their mind but thats it, Nougat its the last OS update we will get.
Maybe we can expect some security patches and nothing more.
If all variants have bootloader unlock capabilities we can expect LineageOS or something with the taste of O, but this is not the case, in 80% of this phone the bootloader isnt unlockable so, you can lost your hopes in O.
I hope someone makes lineage
I wrote an email to the chief technical officer of ZTE and asked if development for the Axon 7 is still ongoing. Here is a screenshot of the answer.
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
MishaalRahman said:
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
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Pm for now to avoid possible email spamming.
As for all the others who read this, here is a little more explanation:
He is the technical chief officer of zte and stands in direct contact with the dev team. He is also the reason we got the zip for disabling system write protection in the first place. Without him i wouldn't have gotten the update.zip (with disabled system write protection) and @raystef66 couldn't have made a flashable zip for us.
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Volte works on Oreo china
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE should work on any of the big Oreo ROMs. WFC is hit or miss (even on stock ROM). I'm assuming Oreo is gonna be the last android version we can install and still have these things work (unless some dev out there finds a way to get past this roadblock in the future). Either way, I kinda doubt ZTE would provide any further updates for us beyond Oreo. I'm assuming that the response given in the OP meant that they would fix everything that's still broken and missing on 8.0; not begin development for Pie (especially since the Axon 10 is just around the corner, pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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It is if ZTE expect some form of customer loyalty on future purchase decisions. Would you buy the Axon 10/11/12 etc. based on your Axon 7 experience? Yes they had disruptions from trade sanctions etc. but that's not the consumers fault and imo ZTE should be doing everything they can to restore faith in their brand.
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE nd Wifi calling wok fine for me on ZTE's Oreo B20.
RobboW said:
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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The vendor partition stuff is something else entirely. Some people believed that ZTE would bring Treble support to the Axon while that made very little sense (Treble is a requirement for phones that SHIP with Oreo and above, but it's optional for Oreo, and its main advantage is it makes it easier for OEMs to update major Android versions). It was developed by djkuz and NFound eventually anyways, but only because of the generic ROM benefits
I don't think you can simply slap Android One certification on the middle of a product's life, but even if they could, it would make absolutely zero sense for them... Why be commited to security updates and newer Android versions on a phone that has surely stopped giving any revenue since long ago? Plus I'm not even sure if people prefer stock Android to stuff like One UI where you have a bunch of options
Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Marshmallow and Nougat were perfectly stable, if not the chinese versions. i'd say that counts.
The important thing is them fixing Daydream because it doesn't only entail adding daydream back, to run it properly you need to have thermals and the kernel properly tuned. Daydream should put the phone at ~1.3 GHz but I believe they'll have to mess around to make it work as intended anyways
plus all this is useful for LOS
Marshmallow and Nougat had a very bad design and UI because of mifavor. Oreo is nice but extremly unstable.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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All I'm saying is, @GodOfPsychos contacted this ZTE guy, he said that an update was going to be released, and then XDA'S EDITOR IN CHIEF contacted that guy and got the same response (with which an article was made). They can bail at any time, but it's not like they are promising Pie anyways
I'm guessing you can't see the attached screenie in the OP? I can see it just fine from XDA Labs
We won't get official Android Pie for Axon 7.
The most I read into that is update to include cut out features like Daydream, probably a security update too. Just a finish of what Oreo 8.0 was supposed to be. I don't think we will even see official Oreo 8.1
If they had just kept with the whole "best sounding phone" idea I'd probably already have bought another ZTE. It was the thing that distinguished them in the crowded market of samey-same phones. At this point I'm clinging to my Axon 7 with my tight little hands, and any update to its stability will be appreciated. [Full disclosure, I'm running the GSI Liquid Remix unofficial build of Pie, but if they do update the official Oreo and get it rock solid, I could see downgrading just to be on an official ROM.]
Hello guys, i was reading few articles online stating that more company will get into the beta program of Android Q. Is there a chance that Huawei is part of them? Will it be possible to update with treble? Will it be possible to get it on Ota?
If you have any though on that or if you previously had a Huawei phone please comment below.
Coming from Oneplus 3 I don't know how this company work in term of software update so just wondering what will happen this year!
With it's bootloader unlock policy probably not very likely :/.
If you want the latest Android Betas as soon as they drop, get a Pixel. Otherwise, you're just going to have to wait. I doubt we'll see Q till the end of the year at the earliest.
are we expecting an update on the 4 of April?
updates are usually planned for the first Monday of the month right?
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I personally am not expecting this phone to get updated on the first Monday. And technically that would not even be a month from the last update anyway. For whatever reason Google really hasn't been able to keep this phone on the same schedule as the others. I could be due to the fact that it is the only one and Linux kernel version 5 all others are on version 4. Or maybe it's because they have too much other crap going on with dev previews. We had 12l dp which as really only a feature drop. Then we have 13 beta. And then they announced that the 12l program would be continues as a monthly platform for the next feature drop. So I personally think they took on too much. Then you add in the the p6 is a completely different phone than the previous generations of pixels. They still haven't figured out the modem yet.
So my answer is no I don't expect it the first Monday in April maybe the second Monday.... maybe
Yes l am expecting an update on Monday, Google need to start releasing timely updates for there latest phones.
Without any actual information on which to base my opinion, I'm guessing yes we'll see the update on the 4th. It's not a Feature drop month so the update will be simpler, and they really need to incorporate the dirty pipe patched kernel.
I'm not expecting anything. I'll wait until my Pixel 6 comes back from RMA (for the second time) and then I'll sell that POS.
Haptics!!!
The March update seemed to be on schedule for the older Pixel devices using older kernels. I believe that latest devices with the newer kernels were delayed because of the 0-day exploit that was discovered last-minute. They wanted to patch that in the March update.
So barring anything like that then I would expect Google to be on time with the April update. Or at least not as late as the March update was.
The only bad thing about updates is the unnecessary new threads from peeps not understanding what they are doing.
Also custom Roms create issues.
I guess flashing and modding for the hell of it with no idea why. Is like a drug to some peeps.
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I believe that latest devices with the newer kernels were delayed because of the 0-day exploit that was discovered last-minute. They wanted to patch that in the March update.
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The fix is in kernel version 5.10.102 and above and the kernel version for the March update is 5.10.66. The CVE for this vulnerability is not listed in the March update either.
I don't believe they fixed this in March.
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The fix is in kernel version 5.10.102 and above and the kernel version for the March update is 5.10.66. The CVE for this vulnerability is not listed in the March update either.
I don't believe they fixed this in March.
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You are correct. They didn't fix the dirty pipe vulnerability with the March update and in fact Google confirmed that the delay in March was not due to this particular vulnerability.
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The fix is in kernel version 5.10.102 and above and the kernel version for the March update is 5.10.66. The CVE for this vulnerability is not listed in the March update either.
I don't believe they fixed this in March.
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I guess I should have looked that up.
But I'm really not bothered about when in the month the updates come as long as they come. Though I'm coming from an LG phone and updates weren't really a thing I expected from them.
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I guess I should have looked that up.
But I'm really not bothered about when in the month the updates come as long as they come. Though I'm coming from an LG phone and updates weren't really a thing I expected from them.
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I am not too worried about this vuln. It requires physical access to the phone.
Based on previous updates I won't be in a hurry to install the next one right away.
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I am not too worried about this vuln. It requires physical access to the phone.
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AS far as I know, the dirty pipe vulnerability can be included in a compromised app.
Fido hasn't listed anything yet.
The March update was released on 03/21, right? That will be two weeks tomorrow -- seems an awful short turnaround.
I'll be pretty surprised if the April update rolls out on the 4th.
It`s here.
Update 12.1.0 (SP2A.220405.004, Apr 2022) released 1PM EDT April 4th
Still Kernel 5.10.66.
where do we find a changelog?
Any news if V60 will get Android 13 soon?
We're lucky that we even got Android 12, and even then it was a half assed upgrade tbh
It's very unlikely that we will see any OS updates anymore.
Didn't they promise 3 updates though? I remember it was on the list to get updates
I actually just got an update an hour ago (Still Android 12). Came here because the FW page on LG's site lists the previous as the latest.
They list V600AM20h, I just got V600AM30d (OTA)
(https://www.att.com/device-support/article/wireless/KM1386390/LG/LMV600AM)
I don't see any difference on my device. Would like to know what the heck I just got here (hopefully patches).
EDIT: By LG's site, I mean ATT's site.
EDIT2: well that link actually says latest is Android 11 so it's just out of date. My reading comprehension seems to have been really off yesterday. But yeah, still receiving updates of one sort or another...
I would say go with GSI. That will likely give you ~5years more use. I have tied some A12 GSI ROMs. Think Pixel Experience was best as it had root,SafetyNet and all bands working proper. PHH or phusson is guy. Just search...
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