Stock 7.1.1 framework incompatibility and limitations - Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
Just a few days ago out of curiosity, I conducted tests to check how well stock 7.1.1 operates.
What I found out is the framework is incompatible with 3rd-party apps' floating windows. I checked its limitations against both latest Facebook Messenger and Skype 7.46.0.596 (120455764) I can confirm we are now unable to use their floating windows in the background.
Let me know your thoughts and other experiences below.
Thanks!

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How to use getRecentTasks on Android "L" ?

Starting with Android "L" , apps can no longer get the recently launched apps:
https://developer.android.com/preview/api-overview.html#Behaviors
The documentation (not the one on the internet, as it's still not updated ) says:
This method is deprecated.
As of L, this method is no longer available to third party applications: as the introduction of document-centric recents means it can leak personal information to the caller. For backwards compatibility, it will still return a small subset of its data: at least the caller's own tasks (though see getAppTasks() for the correct supported way to retrieve that information), and possibly some other tasks such as home that are known to not be sensitive.
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Instead, they only get a list of apps that the current app has launched.
Is there a way to overcome this? Perhaps with root?
I ask this since I've recently added this feature for my app (allowing to sort apps by recently launched), and sadly it doesn't work as I made it...
Maybe I can get when the files of the apps (those that are used for launching them) were recently used? But this is just like checking the list of running processes, no?

Restricted user app selection after Oreo not working

I use restricted user profiles on the S3 to only allow my children to only access a restricted list of apps I download from the Play Store. It seems that any NEW apps that I download from the play store after the Oreo update do not show up in the list of apps (Settings > Cloud and accounts > Users, select a restricted user).
I did a factory reset this morning, and still no luck. Now only stock apps show up.
I chatted with Samsung this morning, and they want me to take it to the local walk-in Samsung clinic to have it looked at. This seems like a software issue - not a hardware issue. Perhaps Oreo changes the way this feature works - and it is an android issue not a Samsung one?
As a troubleshooting step, would any of you be willing to setup a restricted account on your S3, download a few play store apps and see if they show up to be able to enabled for the restricted account? No matter what I do, only the stock apps show up. It would be helpful to know if others have the problem as well.
I'm having the same problem, we're you able to find a solution? Only happened after the oreo update.
Nigle said:
I'm having the same problem, we're you able to find a solution? Only happened after the oreo update.
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Thank you for reporting your experience with this to this thread. No solution as of yet. Now that I know someone else is having the same issue, I will try Samsung support again and let them know it is a problem with Oreo for all users - not just my tablet. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the best we can hope for is that it gets Samsung's attention to be included in the next update - which will likely be some time from now.
Update: I installed the Smart Tutor app from the Play Store which allowed a Samsung Support rep to see the issue. They agreed that it was not working as it should and opened issue ticket #2194272620. Hopefully this ticket will allow the issue to be noticed and fixed in a future update.
bthurber said:
Thank you for reporting your experience with this to this thread. No solution as of yet. Now that I know someone else is having the same issue, I will try Samsung support again and let them know it is a problem with Oreo for all users - not just my tablet. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the best we can hope for is that it gets Samsung's attention to be included in the next update - which will likely be some time from now.
Update: I installed the Smart Tutor app from the Play Store which allowed a Samsung Support rep to see the issue. They agreed that it was not working as it should and opened issue ticket #2194272620. Hopefully this ticket will allow the issue to be noticed and fixed in a future update.
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Thanks for the quick follow up! It's good that they finally acknowledged the issue at least.
Stumbled upon pretty much the same issue when I wanted to create a new restricted user account.
Before the update to Oreo; I had already a restricted account. That one has still the possibility to change the 'run' permission for apps. Not sure if it also works for new installed - I haven't tested that.
de_perre said:
I had already a restricted account. That one has still the possibility to change the 'run' permission for apps. Not sure if it also works for new installed - I haven't tested that.
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My experience was that new installed apps would not show up for the existing restricted accounts.
It will be interesting to see if the Tab S4 has this same problem
Hi all together!
Same problem here! This is a mandatory feature for me to share the tablet with my kids. Seems that the oreo update ****ed it up.
The bored Samsung support guy asked me to do a factory reset, and now, after 3 hours of configuration it still doesn't work.
Grrr !!! before the factory reset I had at least these apps working in the restricted profile I configured under android 7.
And ideas? Any update from Samsung ticket you opened?
Regards from cologne, Germany
Sui
No new ideas. I am USA but I noticed the korea build was a bit newer so I tried installing that. That didn't help but was interesting.
My understanding from the Samsung rep was that others could call and give the ticket number to get status and add a
"Me too" to it and that may help it get more attention
Having same issue on my Galaxy Tab S3 after Android 8.0.0 install. Did factor reset and still not working. Contacted Samsung using a Samsung Community of "Restricted Profile - New Apps not listed in App and Content Access Menu" and after Samsung suggesting a factory reset, which did not fix problem, they private messaged me to contact Google. I am struggling as there appears to be no way to contact Google for a response other than the mounds of help websites that do not acknowledge or provide fixes. As a parent who is trying to restrict my children's use of tablet to choke off internet and inappropriate items, I am at a loss for now and my kids are whining that they cannot play on any new apps without bugging me to let them use my signon; totally unacceptable.,
Same problem (Samsung Galaxy Tab A6, android oreo 8.1). Completely ruins my restricted account setup for the kids. They're not happy and neither am I!
Solution
"Same problem (Samsung Galaxy Tab A6, android oreo 8.1). Completely ruins my restricted account setup for the kids. They're not happy and neither am I!"
Give restricted account permission to use chrome and search for the app you require as an apk. Then install from that.
99% of apps can be found as an apk so it works as a solution until android gets there acts together and sorts it out.
Same here. I just upgraded my Galaxy Tab 10 A6 T580 to Oreo 8.1.
My kids keep asking when they can get the tablet back...
Same problem here after the Oreo update.
Old restricted accounts still have their previously enabled apps, new restricted accounts only get standard Google/Samsung apps.
New apps installed under Oreo from the Play Store do not show up in the app restrictions list.
Somehow, as restricted users also cannot use the Play Store directly, how are they supposed to get any app other than the standard ones?
This is a bug, not a feature.
If it should prevail, I will dump my Android devices and get Apple iOS phones/tablets for the rest of the family.
Same problem here too. I installed few apps after i upgraded my Galaxy Tab 10 A6 T580 to Oreo 8.1. They are not shown..so even resetted the device. Now all is gone on the redtricted users...
My kids also want to get the tablet back...
If anyone has a solution...pls let me know how!
I talked to the Samsung Germany support on Thursday. They know about and acknowledged the problem, however, there is no cure. The technician I talked to hypothesized about the upcoming Android P (roll-out to Samsung devices is planned for 2019) may fix the issue.
The point is, restricted users may also not use the Play Store to install new apps, so in effect, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to get any apps except the standard stock apps into a restricted user's account. That does not make any sense at all.
Unless this is really intended (making the restricted account option useless), this looks like a gross oversight in QA on behalf of Samsung.
I'll see how this develops. My immediate solution is to use MobileFence to restrict my kids' accounts on mobiles and tablets (working with normal user accounts).
--j.
Scott_B1 said:
Having same issue on my Galaxy Tab S3 after Android 8.0.0 install. Did factor reset and still not working. Contacted Samsung using a Samsung Community of "Restricted Profile - New Apps not listed in App and Content Access Menu" and after Samsung suggesting a factory reset, which did not fix problem, they private messaged me to contact Google. I am struggling as there appears to be no way to contact Google for a response other than the mounds of help websites that do not acknowledge or provide fixes. As a parent who is trying to restrict my children's use of tablet to choke off internet and inappropriate items, I am at a loss for now and my kids are whining that they cannot play on any new apps without bugging me to let them use my signon; totally unacceptable.,
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Same problem, Galaxy Tab A 10.5 (2018), Android 8.1.0 - massively frustrating!
Same problem here - is there any point in contacting Samsung to log this?
Any work around anyone can recommend? We use the tablets for a lot of lessons and set reading and the kids can't even access Kindle on it any more. I saw someone recommended Mobile Fence already, thanks.
It's causing major family tension because of how it's affecting Minecraft too. Huge frustrations.
Same here. I wonder why restricted user feature persists, it is useless now. A can assign only application installed before upgrade to Android 7.x, now on 8.1 and still no new app for assigning to restricted user.
Samsung Tab A6 (2016).
Same problem, subscribing to thread just to be able to see if there is any resolution.

Could please anybody run my app for testing?

I wrote some free apps available through F-Droid. A user wrote me that my app "Unpopular Music Player" crashes on his device whenever trying to play music. I analysed the symptoms (app just stops) and crash log (some exception inside Android, without my code being involved).
Now I am at the end of my wisdom. Could perhaps somebody test my app on his/her/its device? The device claims to be Xiaomi Redmi 5 with Android 8.1. The app ist just straight-forward using standard Android calls. It is available via either F-Droid and PlayStore.
PS: No other device ever had that problem during the last three years.
Tested it from fdroid with AEX 6.3 Pie.
Yes it does crash. It starts playing music but then it crashes.
https://del.dog/esuxixamob
https://del.dog/hozagafuno
Also this device has several audio issues. So its definitely device issue.
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Tested it from fdroid with AEX 6.3 Pie.
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Thank you very much!
In the meantime three friendly people with different devices also performed the test for me, and the result looks like this:
Huawei, Android 8.0: no problem
Motorola, Android 8.1: music plays, but GUI crashes
Nokia, Android 8.1: same as Motorola
So your device seems to behave like the other 8.1 devices. I already found a workaround that worked fine with the Motorola, so I am going to publish this, and I hope that the other 8.1 devices will then work as well.
Again, thanks for testing!!!
Technical background: There seems to be a backward compatibility problem in latest Google's SDK when calling a deprecated function with a newer OS. Strange...
PS: I just noticed that you did not test with Xiaomi's OS, but some "AOSP Extended". And it's not 8.1, but 9. But this is no problem, so at least I know that Android 9 behaves like 8.1.
Ahkah said:
Thank you very much!
In the meantime three friendly people with different devices also performed the test for me, and the result looks like this:
Huawei, Android 8.0: no problem
Motorola, Android 8.1: music plays, but GUI crashes
Nokia, Android 8.1: same as Motorola
So your device seems to behave like the other 8.1 devices. I already found a workaround that worked fine with the Motorola, so I am going to publish this, and I hope that the other 8.1 devices will then work as well.
Again, thanks for testing!!!
Technical background: There seems to be a backward compatibility problem in latest Google's SDK when calling a deprecated function with a newer OS. Strange...
PS: I just noticed that you did not test with Xiaomi's OS, but some "AOSP Extended". And it's not 8.1, but 9. But this is no problem, so at least I know that Android 9 behaves like 8.1.
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Hello ,
Are you a App developer if so can I contact you I need your help
In some app development
Shreejoy Dash said:
Hello ,
Are you a App developer if so can I contact you I need your help
In some app development
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Yes, you can, and you may, but I actually draw most of my wisdom from "stackoverlfow.com".
Addendum: some days ago I had repaired the program, and since today the new version is available on F-Droid. It should now longer crash during notification creation.
Ahkah said:
Addendum: some days ago I had repaired the program, and since today the new version is available on F-Droid. It should now longer crash during notification creation.
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Works fine now. App is really smooth.

Privacy/security guide for non-rooted Nord N10?

Just wondering if anyone has a privacy/security guide for a non-rooted Nord N10 on Android 11. I was initially going to ROM it and install GrapheneOS but it looks like it has a lot of issues for some people trying to install it and I'm not tech savvy enough at fixing them or have the time to go through it if it bricks.
So far I've used a debloat script I found and also added some Google/TMobile packages to remove from it (I don't log into a Google account on my phone and Google Maps is the only Google app I use). I've removed or disabled a lot of the other stock apps which I don't use and have tried to go with as many open-source apps as possible along with a few other basic Android security tips.
I've also installed AdAway non-rooted version (the one where it sets up a VPN, initially tried InviziblePro but it shut down on restarts).

directv app on android 11 tv box

hello all
wondering if anyone here has any idea why the new directv app will not work on my android 11 box.the older directv on the go app works fine but its being discontinued soon.the new app returns the error"issue on our end.try again later.care code 500".any ideas guys and gals?
thanks
brayneeac said:
hello all
wondering if anyone here has any idea why the new directv app will not work on my android 11 box.the older directv on the go app works fine but its being discontinued soon.the new app returns the error"issue on our end.try again later.care code 500".any ideas guys and gals?
thanks
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There are DIRECTV apks going back to 2016 that you can sideload and use especially when:
-- Crashing.
-- Won’t open.
-- Won’t respond.
-- Isn’t working properly.
-- Discontinued.
Not to mention that new updates may have many bugs that you may not be comfortable with. Developers tend to keep their apps updated with the latest version of Android. So, if you have an old or even new Android version, the new interface and features compatible with new Android version may break the app.
Your device hardware may not be compatible with the updated version of the app.
You may not like the newly added features or the interface overhaul.
Your favorite feature may get removed for any reason.
The updated version may get filled with ads.

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