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all hype aside i have a sony xperia z3 and i will be making the switch to a V10 when it comes to T-mobile. I tried the note5 even with no removable back or expandable storage and it was not anything special. Sure it was fast, good screen, and great camera but the experience was like " eh its the same note". When i look to buy a phone i ask myself " will i use this feature?" and i found myself not using any of the notes.
The LG V10 is an upgrade from my xperia z3. 5.7 screen has been shown to be a great size for quad hd. Yes Amoled is better brighter but not sure if LG has ever done AMOLED before i know they had OLED. Removable back to swap out just in case your battery burns out buy using it while its charging lol. stock 64 gigs of storage! which means my micro slot can just be for raw files and or audio flac files. Phone has top tier camera and best video experience of 2015. IR blaster just in case you loose your remote and your to lazy to look for it lol or another ex: at the gym and your doing cardio and its time for your show just change it yourself and everyone will be like " who changed the channel?". HIFI audio is a plus yes you wont be able to play any files in 32bit but flac files of vinyl files will sound amazing. It comes with HIFI earphones which is awesome because if it didnt you would have to spend alot more money on a pair just to get the experience you should have gotten right out of the box. 4 gigs of ram is future proof and as far as the 808 chip goes when theres root on this phone you can always overclock the cpu to a fast and safe speed. I also find its great that it has gorilla glass 4 and metal sides with a softer plastic feel to protect from drops so a case is not necessary for this phone. Im sure it will get Qi charge even if you have to buy a back cover to get it which is my only flaw with this phone is that it doesnt have it standard but its not a deal breaker since its just as easy to plug it in and plug in is faster anyway. The UI i saw was improved but if you dont like it still just get a launcher ( google) and your good or wait for root. the second screen from what i saw on all the videos is handy since the notifications get displayed on the side and doesn't interrupt your screen experience. is it placed weird yes at the top is to far to move your thumb to the top so you would have to hold it with two hands and given this is a 5.7 inch screen you should know already that its a two handed device (but lg does have a one hand screen mode). The second screen really is meant for just notifications and the occasional quick app select. some people say they should have placed the second screen on the bottom and I agree but im sure they placed it on the top because that is where the cameras are and they didnt want to make a longer 2nd screen since it should be used for a quick glance. if it were at the bottom im sure the phone would have been a tad bit bigger since the cameras would stay on top and an extra screen on the bottom. The finger print scanner is in the logical spot for LG since that was the power button for the G series.
This phone just has to many thing i know i would use then things i wouldn't. Samsung honestly has a great chip and a great screen but thats really all it has.
So in short i will be getting this phone when it comes to the USA and if LG does a yearly release then ill be happy to wait a year to see if the upgrade would be worth it to a lg V10 2 lol.
Tl;Dr to be honest
Well, I am switching from my LG G3 to this phone probably end of November...
I don't typically upgrade to another phone of the same manufacturer, or at least I haven't in recent years. The LG G3 set a great first impression for me with LG devices. The hardware was great, build quality second to none. The software skin the least invasive and most closely resembles vanilla Android. The camera and software for the camera the best of any smartphone in my opinion....
I think we can expect this device to release on major US carriers by middle of November I think I've seen quoted.
This is going to be a great device I really think it captures the essence of what Android has become. A very high end phone.
The V10's second screen seemed such a gimmick to me when it was announced. After seeing pre release reviews from those LG sent devices to, wow it is a wonder we haven't seen this implemented sooner. I am very eager to get this device. I really had my heart set on the Nexus 6P, having never had the opportunity to own a Nexus device before. However due to the fact that I upgrade through my carrier I will not be able to get it... Then enters the V10... Gotta have it!!! Can't remember the last time I was as excited for a new device.... Maybe the S3, and that was a while ago. I think you will really enjoy the phone compared to your Sony.
Will be upgrading from a G Flex 2, this phone looks amazing.
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Tl;Dr to be honest
Well, I am switching from my LG G3 to this phone probably end of November...
I don't typically upgrade to another phone of the same manufacturer, or at least I haven't in recent years. The LG G3 set a great first impression for me with LG devices. The hardware was great, build quality second to none. The software skin the least invasive and most closely resembles vanilla Android. The camera and software for the camera the best of any smartphone in my opinion....
I think we can expect this device to release on major US carriers by middle of November I think I've seen quoted.
This is going to be a great device I really think it captures the essence of what Android has become. A very high end phone.
The V10's second screen seemed such a gimmick to me when it was announced. After seeing pre release reviews from those LG sent devices to, wow it is a wonder we haven't seen this implemented sooner. I am very eager to get this device. I really had my heart set on the Nexus 6P, having never had the opportunity to own a Nexus device before. However due to the fact that I upgrade through my carrier I will not be able to get it... Then enters the V10... Gotta have it!!! Can't remember the last time I was as excited for a new device.... Maybe the S3, and that was a while ago. I think you will really enjoy the phone compared to your Sony.
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I totally get where your coming from. I to am on carrier and i wanted the 5x but saw only 2 gig of ram and only one of the facing speakers work for audio. I only upgrade from carrier also and was going to wait but this phone looks beast theres just way to much stuff to pass off on getting this phone. every time i think about what this phone has in it compared to the other carrier phones i get excited. I love my sony the battery life is amazing the camera takes good photos and the HI-res sounds so clear. Software though is starting to lag.
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I hear you. Seems like we are on the same page.
I think I will be happier with this device. Even if the bootloader never gets cracked open, whereas the Nexus will almost certainly... I explained in another thread I don't need the ROM support, really root at all. I am more interested in having a device that works out of the box and offers me what I expect from a phone. Android is maturing to a point where we don't need root to do a lot of what was only available through root. The best part of my LG G3, and the V10 is that the software does have some very useful features baked in and LG has done this without ruining the integrity of the software, and without hindering performance (exceptionally clear in the V10 reviews, very very snappy) or battery life that much at all.
The screen on my G3 beats the iPhone 6S outright, which my mom has for work. She still loathes the thing and prefers her Note 2. Ha. Anyways... This phone has me very very excited. I am looking forward to upgrading now, where I was fairly content before the news of this came out. Yeah, the Nexus would be very neat, but I think Google made a mistake only offering it through the Play Store. There are plenty of people like us who upgrade through the carriers we pay... I never really needed a camera that is close to a point and shoot as I have a point and shoot that takes great photos, however after getting my G3 I can't go back to something with a subpar camera, and this puppy's camera is going to rein supreme for a long while I predict... It just looks fantastic. My hope is that I will be able to take a macro shot without a macro lens. I think we will be able to, judging by the reviews of the camera.
The V10 seems to be everything we asked for this year in a flagship, honestly... It has a removable battery, micro SD support (up to 2 TB!?), an amazing screen, camera that I believe to be second to none... I don't know why other manufacturers couldn't put something out similar to this.. Anyways! Can't wait to see some hands on reports when this is released state side.
yes, as soon as tmo announces a launch date, i will be there to purchase in store. this will be an upgrade from the note 3 and a change from the samsung line as all i have purchased have been samsung priducts. i watched samsung's presentation for the note 5 and edge 6+ and was absolutely underwhelmed by it. the thing is, if it had a removable battery and sd slot, i probably would have bought a note because why change something that wasn't obviously broken. samsung's design language tells me that they're broken and are going to stay broken for a while. they have moved in the direction of being a fashion android device with this all glass and metal thing they're doing now and that is a fragile phone that won't survive drops without a case.
i hope that root is able to happen. i don't need root, but i think it's always a good option to know it's there if i want it.
I had a G3 for a year and really enjoyed it. I switched to the Moto X Pure Edition which is pretty good but I got to try out the V10 yesterday and now I want it. I'll probably get it in a couple of months once I see if there's root available.
It feels quite nice especially with the metal frames on the sides. The battery cover is grippy with the texture they have on it. The screen felt brighter than what I remember the G3 being like. The camera will obviously destroy the MXP camera. I got to see the rose gold one which I actually may end up getting. I usually just get boring black but the color was a nice champagne color. The 120 degree camera was impressive for people who like to take self portraits. I refuse to use the other word
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yes, as soon as tmo announces a launch date, i will be there to purchase in store. this will be an upgrade from the note 3 and a change from the samsung line as all i have purchased have been samsung priducts. i watched samsung's presentation for the note 5 and edge 6+ and was absolutely underwhelmed by it. the thing is, if it had a removable battery and sd slot, i probably would have bought a note because why change something that wasn't obviously broken. samsung's design language tells me that they're broken and are going to stay broken for a while. they have moved in the direction of being a fashion android device with this all glass and metal thing they're doing now and that is a fragile phone that won't survive drops without a case.
i hope that root is able to happen. i don't need root, but i think it's always a good option to know it's there if i want it.
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I'm with you. As soon as T-Mobile drops this device on their shelves I'm there. As much as I love my N6 I'm not going to miss it (nasty bug in Marshmallow right now plaguing WiFi where it has issues at times staying connected). I'm also done with the custom ROM community. The entitlement issues and some of the shoddy work is unreal. I'm done with needing root as well. I wanted a Nexus 6P but that craptastic 810 SoC, the AMOLED (burn-in on my N6 is driving me insane and it's not even a year old) and the lack of selling through carriers killed that for me. I was pondering what to do then a week later the V10 was announced. I can't wait to get my hands on it. T-Mobile and LG need to hurry the hell up so they can take my money.
Is everyone here writing poems. But I have a nexus 6 that I'll be keeping and am still getting this phone
6p is a great phone i herd someone blew a fuse when they rooted it or something. i would love to have one lol but they dont sell them on carriers and im not wealthy enough to shell out money.
I hope the price comes down like in Korea to compete with the galaxy s6 to 610. 640 would be perfect. I do believe with the software changes LG has made it makes the experience more enjoyable then the stock lg skin like on the lg g3 when it first came out. I cant wait to try this phone out.
I've received my p9 plus from Vodafone and it is locked. Got it pay 19.99 to unlock.
Initial impressions, overpriced for £500.00 64gb.
Screen quality is quite good very vibrant n ui is pretty clean.
Camera lots of options not tested yet.
Fingerprint excellent works every time and minimum fuss to setup, one of the quickest.
Design Feels and looks premium quite comfortable to hold in the hand.
Sound loud and clear better then most top end phones including S7.
Force touch works pretty well and does the job. Bit gimmicky not sure how often i would use it.
I wish it was qhd then it would justify the price tag.
If you've got any questions do feel free to ask will try to answer.
I returned my phone as I didn't feel it was worth the price tag.
Even though you have unlocked it, does it still have Vodafone branding? Can you also be sure that you will be in line for OS updates as soon as Huawei release it, and that doesn't have to go through Vodafone first, if the OS had been modified for them?
Also do you think the speaker quality compares favourably to the HTC One line?
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Even though you have unlocked it, does it still have Vodafone branding? Can you also be sure that you will be in line for OS updates as soon as Huawei release it, and that doesn't have to go through Vodafone first, if the OS had been modified for them?
Also do you think the speaker quality compares favourably to the HTC One line?
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I'm waiting for unlock but branding will remain. Not sure about updates tbh.
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Also do you think the speaker quality compares favourably to the HTC One line?
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I have compared the speaker audio quality to my colleagues HTC One 10 and P9 plus is both louder (in landscape) and of better quality (spoken words were clearer). Even my colleague was impressed.
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I have compared the speaker audio quality to my colleagues HTC One 10 and P9 plus is both louder (in landscape) and of better quality (spoken words were clearer). Even my colleague was impressed.
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I would agree with that sound is louder and seems clearer. Quite impressive
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Sounds good! Excuse the pun..
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I've received my p9 plus from Vodafone and it is locked. Got it pay 19.99 to unlock.
Initial impressions, overpriced for £500.00 64gb.
Screen quality is quite good very vibrant n ui is pretty clean.
Camera lots of options not tested yet.
Fingerprint excellent works every time and minimum fuss to setup, one of the quickest.
Design Feels and looks premium quite comfortable to hold in the hand.
Sound loud and clear better then most top end phones including S7.
Force touch works pretty well and does the job. Bit gimmicky not sure how often i would use it.
I wish it was qhd then it would justify the price tag.
If you've got any questions do feel free to ask will try to answer.
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u really could share nice pics here .. settings , tricks, tweaks..
thnx
I'm returning mine, I just felt something was missing.
If it had qhd screen and better battery probably kept it.
riz157 said:
I'm returning mine, I just felt something was missing.
If it had qhd screen and better battery probably kept it.
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honor v8 has..
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I'm waiting for unlock but branding will remain. Not sure about updates tbh.
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got mine today,and unlocked for £5.99 (did it for myself with dc unlocker)
don't like the device at all(unwanted upgrade) so I'mgoing to sell it.
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got mine today,and unlocked for myself for £5.99
don't like the device at all(unwanted upgrade) so I'mgoing to sell it.
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Why not just return it if not happy? I got mine unlocked for £3.59 eBay took 7 days. I'm awaiting for return label from Vodafone. Defenitly not worth 500 better off buying nexus 6p for that sort of money.
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Why not just return it if not happy? I got mine unlocked for £3.59 eBay took 7 days. I'm awaiting for return label from Vodafone. Defenitly not worth 500 better off buying nexus 6p for that sort of money.
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I had a long conversation with Vodafone and finally got a brilliant deal,so if I return the device I can't keep the deal.And I already ordered the oneplus3.
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I had a long conversation with Vodafone and finally got a brilliant deal,so if I return the device I can't keep the deal.And I already ordered the oneplus3.
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Yes oneplus 3 is better value for money but camera and sound wont be nowhere near as good as p9 plus. Other then that it looks good.
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I'm returning mine, I just felt something was missing.
If it had qhd screen and better battery probably kept it.
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Using the P9+ side by side with my brothers S7edge, i have not noticed anything exceptionally different on the screen of s7e yet.
The s7e has advantages like sharper images in low light camera and wireless charging (edge screen a bit of gimmick and ui is really boring and annoying)but so does p9 plus excell in other areas. End of the day it comes down to relative personal priorities on what sacrifices they are willing to take on their phone. In my view, no phone of this price is worth the price and that includes s7e. I got this device because it got me addicted to it willing to throw in the big price.
There are ofcourse other budget ranged high spec phones from China but they all have lot off serious user complains and does not meet all rounded spec and quality control level that p9+ brings.
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Yes oneplus 3 is better value for money but camera and sound wont be nowhere near as good as p9 plus. Other then that it looks good.
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Tell you honestly,my biggest problem with P9 plus is nthe fingerprint scanner located on the back...just can't get used to it with that.can't unlock it while the phon is on the desk.I know it sounds scilly
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Tell you honestly,my biggest problem with P9 plus is nthe fingerprint scanner located on the back...just can't get used to it with that.can't unlock it while the phon is on the desk.I know it sounds scilly
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Fair enough my biggest issue is the price tag, just isn't worth 500. I was really interested in the force touch technology but in the end it felt just gimmicky since only few apps used the function.
The phone ticked all the boxes for me it's thin, 5.5 screen, good speakers, good camera, good signal, good design, OK software. Should have been priced around 360 mark and I think it will drop price very quickly.
64GB with Dual sim beats the 32Gb from Galaxy S7/Edge with only 32Gb
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got mine today,and unlocked for £5.99 (did it for myself with dc unlocker)
don't like the device at all(unwanted upgrade) so I'mgoing to sell it.
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Sent you a PM.
Had to get on Vodafone as not available on others yet. Unlocked it so I can continue using O2. Vodafone a bit ****. Still has Vodafone start up screen and apps. Disabled apps.
I may root it. I think the phone is great. I've had all the main competitors. Screen excellent but as mentioned it's not QHD. Finger print scanner one of he best. Camera also one of the best.
Their UI is pants in my opinion. You have to select your goto app. EG Nova launcher won't default until you allow it to. In other phones it will just default when you select. You have to do this for a few key apps.
Design is very nice. Brushed metal, although it does feel a bit like plastic but it is metal.
Just as add on thoughts. Battery life seems excellent. Not sure if they have a DAC in there but the sound quality is very good.
Also, when watching films and the like; the top earpiece becomes a tweeter speaker and the bottom becomes a woofer. Not unlike the HTC 10. Quite impressed at the quality.
I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I was a bit worried about regretting it after spending a lot. Considered cancelling my order a few times. Went with the Pixel 3 after 3 years of a Nexus 5X. I know this isn't the experience everyone has had but I love it. I haven't had any of the issues people have been talking about or noticed any kind of lag or hiccup yet. I honestly think that in a few months all the negative comments and concerns will blow over and it will be regarded as one of the best phones available but maybe I'm wrong.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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You're brought up two issues:
1. If you're wanting to know if you'll be happy using a Pixel after using Samsung for so long, the answer depends on how much you value all the extra software features that are built into Samsung devices. If you love them and use them all the time, the Pixel will disappoint because it is bare bones Android. If you don't care about those features and just want a simple UI with fast updates, then you'll love the Pixel.
2. If you're wanting to know if these early "issues" are deal breakers, then it really comes down to hardware vs software. If the issues you are concerned about are hardware related, then there's nothing that can be done and you would be better served by a different device. If the issues you are concerned about are software related, then buy the phone with confidence. You may never see these issues because they don't affect everyone, and if you do, they will likely be fixed in the updates that Google pushes every month. So you won't even have to wait long.
Either way, life is too short to regret a phone purchase.
Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram
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P3 is killing apps because Google sloppy optimization /buggy software not because of lack of RAM. P1 and P2 don't have these issues and all have 4GB.
The strongest recommendation I can think of is wait until Google gets it together. Google has a dubtious track of fixing bugs even on Pixel.
Yea, even I'm having thoughts of regretting to pre-order Pixel 3 64GB Clearly White, haven't received it yet tho. Indian users will get it after Oct 31st(official release date).
My concerns are that will it be worth it to spend Rs. 66k (approx 900 USD) for a phone when I can get OnePlus 6T for around Rs. 38k-40k (approx 530 USD) with better specs like 8GB RAM and 3700 mAh battery. Though I really like the way Pixel looks and it's software is also great with AI. And the camera is the best part.
BTW I'm jumping from a 5yr old Moto G to this so any new phone would feel great to me. Currently I get the option to cancel my Pixel 3 order. So I'll wait and see the 6T, then decide to cancel the order or not.
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Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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This is the pixel 3 forum for the smaller version. If you want feedback about the 3XL, please check the 3XL forum.
I did not realize there were two separate forums for the phone.
I canceled. It's still the phone I want, but approaching the end of 2018 this is not an $800 phone. It'll probably be priced correctly come Thanksgiving.
Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Great to hear. So far I haven't cancelled
Just another data point - I got the Pixel 3, came over from Samsung and LG phones (S7 and V30), and I'm happier with this phone than any phone I've previously owned (maybe a bit of hyperbole, but I am very impressed with the phone!). I haven't had any of the problems others have mentioned, and the UI and smoothness of operation are wonderful. I've only snapped a handful of photos so far, but the results are amazing to me. Battery life hasn't been as great as the V30, but it still gets me through a full day and evening, so I'm cool with that.
I was constantly frustrated with waiting for Samsung or LG to release updates, so I'm eager to see how rapidly Google iterates.
I definitely wouldn't cancel.
I've had mine for a week, been back and forth a dozen times a day, got an rma, packed it up, unpacked, packed, unpacked, used for the weekend. Right this minute I'm thinking it goes back tomorrow, but the camera is almost worth keeping it.
My biggest thought is that any camera would blow me away coming from a oneplus 3, and the camera on the 6t might be plenty good enough.
The $50 pre-order credit helps, and it sounds like the 6t won't have wireless charging. My op3 port is almost worn out, have to hold it just right, so I'm wary of another phone without wireless.
I have a camping trip with my daughter in a couple weeks, so if I return, I'm not getting anything new in time for that,with the back orders on the pixel and the shipping time on the 6t, unless tmo has them on the shelf within a week of launch.
So now I'm thinking I'll keep it.
Another positive review for the Pixel 3. Coming from the Samsung S7, the Pixel is a big step up. Really like the minimalist, elegant look, smaller bezels, lightning responsiveness, feel in the hand, unbloated Android, great camera, first in line for updates, and Project Fi. I've had a couple of quirks with some features, but none of the issues getting so much attention. Battery life has significantly improved over the last week (adaptive power management?), and is much better than the S7 even with AOD and bluetooth on all the time. Easily the best phone I've owned by a wide margin. Understand people have different priorities and usage patterns, but I'd advise not bailing without trying it.
I've had my V30 for 3 years now. Came to it from a Turbo that served me well for years too. The 30 has and still works awesome thanks to all the help from xda gurus.
I enjoy the freedoms of having an unlocked and rooted phone. I was wondering what a good upgrade would be? What are you all moving on to from the V30?
Thanks for any advice.
I have rooted Galaxy Note 9, myself.
I moved on to the Galaxy S10+ but I also gave up rooting. While I fully support the desire to root so you can truly own your device, I find it's getting harder and harder to get there. That said, I have not missed rooting either... I don't feel I'm missing anything by not being able to root this phone.
I chose the S10 because, originally, it was rootable (requires older bootloader)... and it kept most of the great features of the V30 (big battery, headphone jack, high-res screen, similar size, etc).
Thanks for the replies! I absolutely love having a head phone jack haha. All my cars are older and have an auxiliary input jack instead of Bluetooth lol
I'm in this situation too. While my V30 still meets my needs, it's already about five years old. I'm also the last one on our Verizon account - everyone else has been moved to T-Mobile.
I've been looking at the Sony Xperia 1 IV or maybe the previous version the Xperia 1 III. From what I understand they have a headphone jack, stereo speakers, SD card slot, and they're rootable. Their native screen resolution is 1644x3840, although according to GSMArena in normally runs at 1096x2560.
My lack of experience with Sony cell phones is a big part of whats holding me back. Another thing is since T-Mobile doesn't currently carry Sony phones, I lose out on any carrier incentives for the new line.
EDIT - I forgot to mention it also appears to not have a notch or hole-punch for the front camera.
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Thanks for the replies! I absolutely love having a head phone jack haha. All my cars are older and have an auxiliary input jack instead of Bluetooth lol
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Remember, you can also get a BT adapter for the car. I had this on my older previous car as well. I had one like this, but not this exact brand/model: https://smile.amazon.com/BK01-Bluetooth-Hands-Free-Wireless-Streaming/dp/B01MSUWCZ0
@hitokage004 I had looked at the Sony phones too, but they weren't available in the USA, cost a lot more, and I wasn't sure they work work on USA frequencies. They seem like great devices, but the limited matches on frequencies made it pointless IMO for the USA market. For example, here is the "Sony Xperia 1 IV" on TMo: https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...04-so-51c-sony-pdx-223/t-mobile-united-states - you can see that LTE is only supported on 2/5 bands.
So, just be careful with that. And don't take my word on it, or that one website either...
@schwinn8 - There is a US model. You have to make sure that's what the seller really has, and unfortunately there are many that don't. That's one of the issues I've seen mentioned over on the XDA forums for the Xperia, so it's one of the things I know to watch out for if I do start actively pursuing one.
I believe there is supposed to be a variant that has 256GB of storage and is a bit cheaper. The international version is available that way, but I haven't confirmed if the US version does - only the 512GB is shown on the Sony US website.
The Xperia 1 III is available on Sony's site, with 256GB storage, at about $900. Then there are the Xperia 5 III and IV, that have a lower screen resolution, etc. The one I'm definitely not considering is Xperia PRO line - between the price and lack of wireless charging.
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@schwinn8 - There is a US model. You have to make sure that's what the seller really has, and unfortunately there are many that don't. That's one of the issues I've seen mentioned over on the XDA forums for the Xperia, so it's one of the things I know to watch out for if I do start actively pursuing one.
I believe there is supposed to be a variant that has 256GB of storage and is a bit cheaper. The international version is available that way, but I haven't confirmed if the US version does - only the 512GB is shown on the Sony US website.
The Xperia 1 III is available on Sony's site, with 256GB storage, at about $900. Then there are the Xperia 5 III and IV, that have a lower screen resolution, etc. The one I'm definitely not considering is Xperia PRO line - between the price and lack of wireless charging.
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Yeah, I had looked at the III at one point, but for $900 it's silly money, IMO. I got my S10+ for $300 and that was about a year ago.
Good to know there may be a US model. I wonder if it's something like the LG/Samsung phones where you can just flash over to the right setup that you need, and get the frequencies you want. Again, this would be fine, but not at $900...
There's still the challenge of getting a US carrier to activate it. Most of the time they look at the IMEI and say yes/no, even if it is converted via the ROM. I ran into this with the V30 repeatedly (I was on a VZ MVNO, but the IMEI was something else).
I got a Samsung S20 FE 5G (after some time with Xiaomi/Redmi phones which I definitely don't recommend).
The plus point is that it still has MicroSD card slot. Missing the convenience of the headphone jack but I got a cheap usb dac which has good sound quality.
Unlocking it outside of EU is tough/paid so I am using it with BL locked stock rom (debloated): https://github.com/aakashverma7/Samsung-Debloat/blob/main/[DEBLOAT}Samsung S-Series.txt
It seems that time has finally caught up with my V30+, seeing numerous daily connection drops ( just for a second) at home. Also , file transfers using usb flakes out in mid stream. This is/was a damn good phone. Hopefully can retire into DAP duty. Have a "premium renewed" Galaxy S20 arriving tomorrow (battery replaced by Samsung)
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It seems that time has finally caught up with my V30+, seeing numerous daily connection drops ( just for a second) at home. Also , file transfers using usb flakes out in mid stream. This is/was a damn good phone. Hopefully can retire into DAP duty. Have a "premium renewed" Galaxy S20 arriving tomorrow (battery replaced by Samsung)
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Yeah, I have rooted Galaxy Note 9, my wife and elderly mother now have 64GB LG V35 (most direct upgrade from 64GB V30), my brother in law now has Galaxy S10+ and my sister is now getting Galaxy 20+ (or something like that).
We all had LG V30/V30+.
All replacement phones still have headset jacks, except for my sister's.
After using this S20 for a week now, I'm kind of liking it overall. Still need to debloat stuff, but it is manageable, I have wifi6 & 5G & sdcard , use a dongle for headphones. Guess my ol V30+ was telling me it was time...
My V30+ is about ready to call ir quits
Constantly overheats
Fingerprint scanner doesn't work
Main camera seems to be stuck in a shallow focus range and I have to wack it to get it working.
Was also looking at the sony line but they are expensive
A next option was the Poco X3 Pro... Only negative is the lcd screen in my opinion.
@tech_infinity why dont u recommend xiaomi/redmi? Isn't poco related to them?
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My V30+ is about ready to call ir quits
Constantly overheats
Fingerprint scanner doesn't work
Main camera seems to be stuck in a shallow focus range and I have to wack it to get it working.
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All of that could be due to a bloated battery. When my original one bloated, the phone was warmer and the power button (which is where the fingerprint scanner is) wouldn't work unless I really pressed hard. I would take off your case and see if the back of the phone is bulging. If so, you can replace the battery with a new one from Amazon for less than $15. Even if you still think that you're ready to move on to another phone, you might still care to make the small investment to have a usable spare phone and media player.
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All of that could be due to a bloated battery. When my original one bloated, the phone was warmer and the power button (which is where the fingerprint scanner is) wouldn't work unless I really pressed hard. I would take off your case and see if the back of the phone is bulging. If so, you can replace the battery with a new one from Amazon for less than $15. Even if you still think that you're ready to move on to another phone, you might still care to make the small investment to have a usable spare phone and media player.
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Phone outlived it's case so its currently naked... No battery bulge..
I replaced the battery last year when i bought next v30 for parts.
If i restart the phone the scanner works sometimes.
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Phone outlived it's case so its currently naked... No battery bulge..
I replaced the battery last year when i bought next v30 for parts.
If i restart the phone the scanner works sometimes.
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Perhaps, when the battery was replaced, a few things weren't put back together as well as possible (the power/scanner button has a finicky connection that can come loose, I found out) or dust was introduced (perhaps why the camera focus is sometimes off). I dunno, but you might want take it apart again and make sure that all contacts, sensors and lenses are clean. If that doesn't do it, you might try wiping and clean flashing the phone. I'm just throwing ideas out if you'd prefer to try to fix it. I understand not wanting to bother and just upgrading, too.
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After using this S20 for a week now, I'm kind of liking it overall. Still need to debloat stuff, but it is manageable, I have wifi6 & 5G & sdcard , use a dongle for headphones. Guess my ol V30+ was telling me it was time...
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You can use this to debloat Samsung phones: https://github.com/aakashverma7/Samsung-Debloat/blob/main/[DEBLOAT}Samsung S-Series.txt
It removes a lot of stuff so be careful with what you remove as it may end up removing features you like. I use it with my S20 fe 5g
I've moved to the Xiaomi 12 Global version. It is very good, but I really miss the LG, the back button and maxed out screen-to-phone size. I wish they were still making phones.
I have always had Sony Phones.
The last few phones have been Huawei but since they lost Google services I switched to Honor Magic 4 pro, a big mistake on my part. Several big bugs make the phone useless, primarily the phone rings but the answer key doesn't show, at times can't be heard by other party.
Main question is this worth considering as a flagship device, I know 1 1V is out but can't find at reasonable price.
As long as it gets good SOT it looks pretty good. Great audio, solid cams, expandable storage and 12gb of ram. I take this over the S23U any day.
The display/bezel ratio could be better. I'm still hooked on the Note 10+ but transitioning to One UI and other Samsung eccentricities probably be a real learning curve for you.
Sony may be my choice years from now though. Samsung has been shooting blanks since the N10+... in my opinion.
Well, I honestly can't see a reason not to use as a flagship device but first make sure it was released in you're area. As having VOLTE and WIFI calling is a pretty big deal breaker for a lot of people now days. Personally my 1III has been going strong. My partner has my old 1II and it's still going strong too.
I don't understand these kinds of questions.
I buy a phone because of the specifications it offers.
I bought it because it had a side fingerprint scanner, no notch, wireless charging, a jack, OLED, >=120Hz and a premium SoC.
You won't find that combination in any other phone, so it had to be this one or compromises had to be made.
I couldn't be arsed about picture quality or cameras in general, whether it was a Sony device and if the screen had this stupidly high resolution which just drains your battery faster. Or VoLTE or Wifi calling since that's been mentioned as well.
I'd just do the same. Look at the requirements you have, see if this phone satisfies your needs and ensure that the price is what you're willing to pay for (and reasonable market price!).
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I don't understand these kinds of questions.
I buy a phone because of the specifications it offers.
I bought it because it had a side fingerprint scanner, no notch, wireless charging, a jack and a premium SoC.
You won't find that combination in any other phone, so it had to be this one or compromises had to be made.
I'd just do the same. Look at the requirements you have, see if this phone satisfies your needs and ensure that the price is what you're willing to pay for (and reasonable market price!).
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Think Sony's UI needs some work but the hardware's all there. It also has expandable storage and that's a huge plus... a 1+tb dual drive power house is what's it's all about. Cloud sucks.
12gb of ram means it should be a running machine for years.
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Think Sony's UI needs some work but the hardware's all there. It also has expandable storage and that's a huge plus... a 1+tb dual drive power house is what's it's all about. Cloud sucks.
12gb of ram means it should be a running machine for years.
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Needs more work as in? Afaik it's about as close to stock as it gets with some very minor saucing primarily in added stuff (apps) and changes images/sounds. If they change this too much you're going to get people complaining about Sony trying too hard to be different.
I think they strike a good balance but should add some minor ricing options.
I'm more pissed off about a flagship phone having so much bloatware. Samsung is very upfront about this because the design is so different, but Sony was a not-so-nice suprise.
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Needs more work as in? Afaik it's about as close to stock as it gets with some very minor saucing primarily in added stuff (apps) and changes images/sounds. If they change this too much you're going to get people complaining about Sony trying too hard to be different.
I think they strike a good balance but should add some minor ricing options.
I'm more pissed off about a flagship phone having so much bloatware. Samsung is very upfront about this because the design is so different, but Sony was a not-so-nice suprise.
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Samsung customization is great. A stock Android is well... a plain Jane. Samsung unfortunately has gone off the rails though sharing Google's lame vision of what everyone must use. Like a big sister they insist. Both forget who pays their bills... or use to.
I simple use Package Disabler to kill the bloatware I don't want. Joke em if they can't take a f...
What do you value? I value roughly in order:
SD Cad slot
Headphone jack
good performance, I don't need great
Rootable
AMOLED screen with 400DPI or more
Battery life
Good camera
This phone is one of very few that has all of that, even more so than the 1 IV which is harder to root from what I gathered, I was looking at the 5 III whcih actually fits my needs more due to having a worse but still amazing screen and thus better battery life, but managed to get a really good deal on the 1 on ebay. So are your values like mine? If yes then it is definitely worth it, I am very satisfied. Do you not care about the card slot or headphone jack? Then probably not.