It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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Hopefully just pre-production issues.
LG actually makes the best OLED panels for TVs that even Sony uses for their TVs. So, there's no reason there should be any quality issues, except LG Display is a "separate" company from the LG company that makes cell phones. However, Google gave them almost $1 billion to get another line up and running to help out with the 2017 Pixel XL. Google used Samsung displays last year, but will be using LG displays this year and LG will be making the 2017 Pixel XL. So, if you are worried, wait a few months until the Pixels especially are in production before buying an LG V30. Because Google will make them straighten out any problems.
FYI, in the reader comments, someone mentioned another reviewer PRAISED the LG V30 display as being excellent. So, the Ars Technica guy may have just gotten a lemon or again, just pre-production issues.
It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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Correct, a sample of one. I don't stare at black screens so uneven lighting doesn't bother me in actual use. Most people have praised the screen. So, as long as it looks good when it actually displaying images, I will be happy.
I know other don't feel the same.
It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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No,it's not disturbing. Most reviewers say it's fantastic. You will find a couple of reviewers will always give critical reviews no matter what.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
This switch in display tech, along with further refinement of the already slim bezels of the G6, makes the V30’s screen hands down the best LG smartphone screen ever. All colours look lush and gorgeous, especially the blacks and red, and the display and glass back both curve towards the metal frame for that symmetrical “glass sandwich” look that Samsung pioneered.
The V30 ticks just about every smartphone box, including a whole bunch that most people never asked for. It has a large, gorgeous OLED display with slim bezels, cameras that excel in low light situations and the newest mobile processor. It is IP68 water-resistant, comes with hi-fi audio capabilities and can be charged wirelessly.
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Okay, the next thing you'll notice is that brilliant 6-inch screen. LG has switched to using OLED panels, and the result is fantastic
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It's not even 50/50. I can find you 10 positive reviews for every negative one.
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Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
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Yes, my light bulbs tend to turn dark when I turn them off.
These reviewers are using pre-production models, so actual retail won't be any worse and will probably be better. And even with that caveat, it's about 10/1 rave reviews.
Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
Secondly, have you owned any P-OLED screen phones before? I have. Still have em. Their screens get better with each iteration but that banding (and graininess) is still there. OG G Flex - saturated screen bad, grainy 720p. G Flex 2 - Crispy saturated OLED colors noticeable banding, less grain on 1080p. V30 looks great brightness all the way up but....it's 1440p right?
I know the hope is real, but this is a hardware issue. Much harder to figure out than a camera software fix.
Think about this: When the V10 and V20 pre-review units went out, LG never revised their hardware - only the software was updated.
....Like I said I hope I'm wrong.
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Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
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I found plenty comparing LG to Samsung OLED quality. Here's three below.
Then "worst" review is first... The only quibble mentioned on the first review (in one pre production unit) was "low light" issues, not banding nor uniformity. And the first reviewer even mentions LG"s crappy P-OLED efforts years ago and says that's not evident on this LG V30. He praises the current phone display as does the 2nd reviewer and third -- and ALL compare to Samsung's OLEDs, like the S7, S8, S8+.
1) LG V30 initial review: The no-BS flagship
I'm happy to report that the company has made a huge amount of progress over the past two years, to the point where V30's screen is almost as good as Samsung's SuperAMOLED. That sounds like faint praise, but I'm actually more than satisfied with what LG has brought to the table here. It's not Galaxy S8 good, but it's surprisingly close, and that's an achievement in itself.
Samsung is still the king of smartphone displays, there's no doubt about that. But LG's latest screen, at Quad HD+ resolution, looks fantastic and punchy, and unlike some of those older P-OLED panels, is clear enough to use outdoors in bright daylight.
If anything, this display's major weakness is in low light. It has an unfortunate tendency to crush shadow details at lower brightness levels, to the point where dark areas become illegible — and that's not great if you're watching Netflix by candlelight, or trying to judge exposure in a low-light photo. This is a disappointing holdover from older OLED efforts, and it's easily fixed in software by simply raising the floor for brightness, but that's not exactly ideal.
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The display, despite some low-light issues, is a step beyond any previous LG phone in terms of quality and daylight legibility. The size is near perfect for me, providing an expansive display in a more ergonomic handset than Samsung can currently offer.
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The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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2) LG's Upcoming V30 May Be Its Best Smartphone Yet
“Is that the new Samsung phone?” I’ve been asked that several times the past few weeks, as I’ve been testing out LG’s upcoming V30 smartphone. And I get it, as the phone is thin, black-fronted, sleek, large, and has rounded edges with a big screen that covers a massive area. No doubt that at quick glance, the resemblance to what I've seen of the Samsung Galaxy Note8 in photos is close.
And because I regularly use a two-year-old Samsung phone, I’ve noticed that the similarities extend beyond sheer looks. For instance, the V30 has a vibrant screen. It’s the best one I’ve seen on an LG phone yet. Colors are intense while blacks are pitch dark. Photos truly pop -- something that I find beautiful in all of the latest Samsung models but lacking in recent LG phones. In this case, LG attributes that radiance to “QHD+ resolution” plus a 6-inch OLED display. Apparently, self-lighting pixels help generate infinite contrast. Sparing you the tech jargon, it’s just a terrific display that can be adjusted to be very bright -- although it doesn’t quite max out as bright as the display on my Samsung.
This makes looking at photos and videos a pleasure.
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3) LG V30 hands-on: Believe the hype
LG is back in the game
LG has talked a lot about the improvement in image quality as it switches from LCD to OLED in the V30. For me, the six-inch, Quad HD+ display (2880 x 1440) is one of the handset’s best elements. The colors look bright and vivid, almost popping off the screen – watching HDR YouTube content on it is breathtaking.
I’ve found the contrast between black and white makes reading text so good that I’m now using the V30 instead of my iPad Air 2 to peruse web articles. The phone's screen trounces my Galaxy S7 Edge, and while I only compared the two briefly, I also preferred it to the S8+.
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And after using it for about a week, I still got that “wow” feeling every time the gorgeous display came to life.
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So, there's three specific comparisons to Samsung, talking specifically about the display and how GREAT it is. You want more, I'll give them to you.
Now two more facts...
1) Google PIXEL XL2 will have the same LG OLED display as found in the LG V30.
2) LG Display’s OLEDs Coming on Premium Phone from Huawei, OPPO, Vivo and Xiaomi
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/09/...coming-premium-phone-huawei-oppo-vivo-xiaomi/
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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You make a good point here. If Google is using lg's P-OLED panels. Then they seem to be good enough. I'm taking all this news with a grain of salt. I'll wait till the V30 actually launches in the US and US reviewers start reviewing production models.
Funny thing is that reputable tech reviewers like MKBHD, Pocket now, Mr. Mobile, etc have had nothing but praise and thye all had pre production models. I usually don't trust all these others tech sites as they are biased most of the time or too critical/take it out of proportion.
We'll see how the pixel is received and I can tell you that most of these site won't says anything about the pixel's display.
Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
Actually, the screen on the Nexus 6 was the main appeal. It was gorgeous at the time and it might still be my daily driver if it only had SD.
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Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but let me tell you a story. I work professionally in broadcast TV, on the technical side. I know about video, and now specifically about HD video. My experience includes not only content creation but QC at the highest levels for global #1 brand.
We have the BEST equipment, the best video displays -- so I know what's good and what's crap. I watch HD video for a living you might say. Back in early 2008, I personally bought my first HD TV, a 60" Sony Bravia 1080p. It was FANTASTIC. In the years since, I've replaced it with another 60" TV, but this story is about that Sony. I did my research, and I bought that TV because it was the best TV for the money at the time. (I couldn't afford Panasonic plasma back then.)
In a forum much like this one, there were a few OCD people who found issues with that specific model Sony Bravia 1080p TVs. Light leakage, banding, blah, blah, blah. One guy took back his TV THREE TIMES to get replacements. Yet, that year, THAT TV model won Best HD TV of the Year award. I kept my TV for 6 years, finally replacing it in 2014 when the technology got so much better. There was NOTHING wrong with that TV.
So, where's the disconnect? I think some people look for flaws that aren't there and find them. Looking through the threads, these same people seem to take back ALL their TVs. I don't know why, and I don't want to disparage them. Maybe it made them feel superior to see flaws that weren't there.
But remember, I know more about video displays than they do, and how good HD video should look (FROM THE SOURCE!). Seeing that TV in my living room looking at the exact same video I had seen at the source back at work, I knew what looked "good" and what didn't. That TV looked fantastic. So, I think there were other issues going on than the actual TV. (Yes, you have to set up all HD TVs -- tweak the settings. You can't just use them out of the box, or you often have cartoonish skin tones. But these people also claimed extensive knowledge in how to set up a TV, so it wasn't that.)
Yes, there will be lemons in a production run of a million units, but those occasional lemons don't tarnish the whole model. That guy that took three back, I'm very skeptical he got three bad TVs in a row and I got the only "perfect" one. You know?
It's my profession, so video is very important to me. But right now, I have to say I take professional reviewers word over "reports" from South Korea. And if Google and many others are using LG OLED displays, and Google is using it for their XL flagship this year, they must have great quality.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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See above. That's not to say there may not be early production issues, but U.S. units will be shipped later so it should be all straightened out. I'm just VERY skeptical of when a few people find "problems" like this. Then when you look at their history, they are the only ones who seem to be plagued with these problems over and over.
You got me all wrong. You can do whatever profession or job you want, doesn't make you an expert because you work with certain equipment. Car salesman work with cars all day long, doesn't make them experts on engines.
I know what I look for because I know what I pay for, I know my first s8+ had red tint on the top right side of the screen. This one don't, I've looked and looked on this one, can't find it. You can't find something that isn't there. But if something's there and you look for it, you'll find it.
Either or, to each their own.
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Because of all the mixed reviews regarding the Razr's screen quality, is it possible that there are two (or more) different screen manufacturers? This would explain why some reviewers have quoted poor screen quality while others have reported excellent.
Isn't Samsung (and affiliates) the only company that produces SAMOLED screens? I'm switching from the HTC Sensation and it has been proven that there are two different screens, each having its own advantages and disadvantages. One is a sharp, the other a sony.
Granted, I've never owned a Motorola Android device before so I'm not sure if they outsource different companies to make these screens.
If anybody is thinking about returning their device or comes in contact with another Razr, take a picture of the screen and compare/contrast. Any input is helpful!
I don't think they would have two different manufacturers for their screens. I really think it is just user to user preference, or some being more critical. I mean this phone and all of Moto's phones have been getting a lot of flak lately for the pentile matrix. I don't know it could be possible though, we'll just have to see.
This is not the case with Motorola. They don't put different screens in the same model. Some reviewers love to puke at motorola(wonder why) cause of pentile but they highly welcomed samsung galaxy s's pentile. I don't believe them but only my own eyes. Razr samoled can show whites as white and other colors are produced very naturally at high brightness. Just my 2 cents !
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This is not the case with Motorola. They don't put different screens in the same model. Some reviewers love to puke at motorola(wonder why) cause of pentile but they highly welcomed samsung galaxy s's pentile. I don't believe them but only my own eyes. Razr samoled can show whites as white and other colors are produced very naturally at high brightness. Just my 2 cents !
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Thanks for clarifying. The last SAMOLED screen I had was a Galaxy S (1) phone and it looked beautiful. If the Razr is anywhere near that quality, then I'll be happier than a pig in ****.
I think some people (especially us phone nerds) do over-scrutinize our devices to the point of being ultra-anal (lol). Looking at the videos, it seems to me that it looks fantastic, and much better than the Bionic's LCD.
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Thanks for clarifying. The last SAMOLED screen I had was a Galaxy S (1) phone and it looked beautiful. If the Razr is anywhere near that quality, then I'll be happier than a pig in ****.
I think some people (especially us phone nerds) do over-scrutinize our devices to the point of being ultra-anal (lol). Looking at the videos, it seems to me that it looks fantastic, and much better than the Bionic's LCD.
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Its better than the Atrix 1 by a long shot.
I exchanged a razrtoday for a new unit. The old one had a very bad display. It looked great on high brightness but with the brightness all the way down, there was a very noticeable green tint to white and light colored screens. The new unit is way way better. My screen on the old unit looked like the pics from the screen review at the verge. The new unit looks amazing even with the brightness on minimum. I really think they might be using two different suppliers for the screen from the varied reviews and my experience. Many companies utilize several companies to supply the same components, so it is possible that motorola is for the samoled screen.
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I exchanged a razrtoday for a new unit. The old one had a very bad display. It looked great on high brightness but with the brightness all the way down, there was a very noticeable green tint to white and light colored screens. The new unit is way way better. My screen on the old unit looked like the pics from the screen review at the verge. The new unit looks amazing even with the brightness on minimum. I really think they might be using two different suppliers for the screen from the varied reviews and my experience. Many companies utilize several companies to supply the same components, so it is possible that motorola is for the samoled screen.
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Thank you! This is the information I was looking for. Does the serial number differences correlate with your experience of the two different screen possibility?
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Thank you! This is the information I was looking for. Does the serial number differences correlate with your experience of the two different screen possibility?
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I honestly didn't even look at the first phones serial number but I hot the second unit at a completely different vzw, one that was over 60 miles from the store where I bought the first unit. This new unit is amazing and I'm very very happy with it. But its very concerning to me the wildly different reviews people have of their experience with the screen and the phone in general. Hopefully, it's just a problem with an early production run or I think Motorola will be getting a lot of returns/exchanges. The phone is amazing and the screen is beautiful though. I'm very happy with the new unit. So if you get one with a green tint on low brightness, return it or exchange it until you get one with a nice display. This display is comparable if not better than the one on my old nexus s which had a killer screen.
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I honestly didn't even look at the first phones serial number but I hot the second unit at a completely different vzw, one that was over 60 miles from the store where I bought the first unit. This new unit is amazing and I'm very very happy with it. But its very concerning to me the wildly different reviews people have of their experience with the screen and the phone in general. Hopefully, it's just a problem with an early production run or I think Motorola will be getting a lot of returns/exchanges. The phone is amazing and the screen is beautiful though. I'm very happy with the new unit. So if you get one with a green tint on low brightness, return it or exchange it until you get one with a nice display. This display is comparable if not better than the one on my old nexus s which had a killer screen.
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Thanks for the info again. I think I got the second batch from Amazon and it should be here monday or tuesday. Thank God they are really good with returns! I have my fingers crossed I get "one of the good ones".
The first razr I got had a defective screen. Blacks showed up as purple. It was terrible.
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The first razr I got had a defective screen. Blacks showed up as purple. It was terrible.
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Yikes! That's terrible. Did you have any problems getting it swapped out? That's one thing I don't like about buying from online retailers -- but the price was too good to say no! Just hope I don't have to switch it out... at least it's Amazon
Hope your new one fits the bill.
To those of you saying that Motorola doesn't use multiple screen manufacturers for the same model devices...I know for a fact they did with the Xoom...there was an entire thread dedicated to discussing it early after release and they were all the Verizon Xooms so again was the same model since only one model existed at that time.
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So,is there a way to determine this? Unfortunately, here in India, the shopkeepers are all smiles when U enter, but once U have made a purchase, they treat U like ****...
So it is very wise to make sure of what you are buying, in stead of then going back later...
Well, i still don't give a chance of different screen manufacturers. Maybe the samoled tech isn't as stable as lcd's. Some of displays just don't cook well at the factory ?
The scariest of them all is the YouTube video of two jerks displaying s complete green screen..its horrible and I pray to god mine doesn't turn out to be like that...this is a very good topic...
I'm also thinking that more than one manufacturer made the camera for the RAZR. I've never seen a mobile device get so much mixed reviews in terms of the screen and camera. I posted this post on another board.
So I went to my local Best Buy to test RAZR's video and picture quality out. They had two demos on hand. One demo was on a booth with the security tag on it. The other one being held by a Bestbuy employee. First, I tested the RAZR at the booth. The video and picture quality were pretty bad. It wasn't as crisp or high quality as I was expecting in a high-end mobile device. It was a little foggy and very grainy. I thought that maybe the lens was dirty, so i cleaned it off. Second try and I got the same results... Bad.
To be 100% sure that this phones photo and video quality weren't garbage, I tried out the other demo phone that the BestBuy employee was holding. The results were much different. The image quality was more crisp and sharp. I didn't see any foggyness that I saw in the previous phone. It still wasn't on par with the iPhone 4s or some phones in the Samsung line, but i'm happy with its quality, especially with such a beautiful piece of hardware.
So, I'm wondering. With all the mixed reviews of this phones photo/video quality (some positive, some negative), do you think that Motorola shipped the RAZR out with a tonne of defective cameras? Were the cameras manufactured by more than one company? Did the demo and review units have slightly older hardware inside? Can some of these issues be fixed by software update?
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I'm also thinking that more than one manufacturer made the camera for the RAZR. I've never seen a mobile device get so much mixed reviews in terms of the screen and camera. I posted this post on another board.
So I went to my local Best Buy to test RAZR's video and picture quality out. They had two demos on hand. One demo was on a booth with the security tag on it. The other one being held by a Bestbuy employee. First, I tested the RAZR at the booth. The video and picture quality were pretty bad. It wasn't as crisp or high quality as I was expecting in a high-end mobile device. It was a little foggy and very grainy. I thought that maybe the lens was dirty, so i cleaned it off. Second try and I got the same results... Bad.
To be 100% sure that this phones photo and video quality weren't garbage, I tried out the other demo phone that the BestBuy employee was holding. The results were much different. The image quality was more crisp and sharp. I didn't see any foggyness that I saw in the previous phone. It still wasn't on par with the iPhone 4s or some phones in the Samsung line, but i'm happy with its quality, especially with such a beautiful piece of hardware.
So, I'm wondering. With all the mixed reviews of this phones photo/video quality (some positive, some negative), do you think that Motorola shipped the RAZR out with a tonne of defective cameras? Were the cameras manufactured by more than one company? Did the demo and review units have slightly older hardware inside? Can some of these issues be fixed by software update?
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my only fear - no amount of software updates turn a bad hardware into a good one. If your screen(the physical screen)is defective, Android update will do a whimper..
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Yikes! That's terrible. Did you have any problems getting it swapped out? That's one thing I don't like about buying from online retailers -- but the price was too good to say no! Just hope I don't have to switch it out... at least it's Amazon
Hope your new one fits the bill.
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I was really nervous they would give me problems, but honestly I just walked in and didn't even say anything. Showed them my home screen and the guy saw it immediately. He said wow, that is all jacked up. Got a replacement, no problems.
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Tell me is the screen of G2 so inglourious as shown there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458409 ?
Seems LG uses worst and cheapest glass it could possibly find so it produces such distortions in picture. Maybe we must tell them they should better buy displays directly from HTC? WDYT?
What do I think? I think you've been trolling the G2 forums for a long time. Let people make their own decisions. I haven't met a high demand my screen doesn't comply with, so I think the title of this thread is ridiculous as well. If you don't like the phone, buy one you do like, and stop posting nonsense please. Its hard enough to sift through the good information on XDA, people shouldn't have to weed out bogus info.
Probly you confuse me with somebody else. 'Cause it's my advices considered useful not somebody's else
I just edited my post because it was harsh. You asked a question and it deserves an answer. I will leave that part of my response.
I just came from a DNA that has one of the best screens ever made and this screen is is marvelous even in comparison from every angle even extreme ones.
I don't know how anyone can complain about the viewing angles on the G2. Coming from just about every major smartphone of 2012/2013 I can say I didn't notice it. Do people really use their phones at extreme angles?
On a TV or Monitor, I get it, you may have it up higher or lower or whatever, but it is a PHONE. You generally have it in front of you...
Just food for thought. Personally I am very happy with the display on the G2.
If you want great viewing angles go get something with a super amoled screen. No one is forcing you to keep your phone. Or maybe your phone is defective. I have 0 issues with my screen.
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personally this is the best screen ive used. some people are just so nitpicky. they should work in Quality Control so we dont get dings scratches that ive seen on my new macbook airs, iphone 5's.
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Tell me is the screen of G2 so inglourious as shown there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458409 ?
Seems LG uses worst and cheapest glass it could possibly find so it produces such distortions in picture. Maybe we must tell them they should better buy displays directly from HTC? WDYT?
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I'm thinking you must not have seen this display in person. First off, this display is by far the best I've ever seen on any phone. The S4's display didn't really look as brilliant to me as this one does despite the contrast ratio of AMOLED. I love this screen and it's disappointing for people to troll this forum posting bad things about the IPS+ display. It's absolutely beautiful. I, also, wonder why you need extreme viewing angles for a smartphone screen. Corning Gorilla Glass 3 is not even close to the worst or cheapest glass anyone could find.
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I just edited my post because it was harsh. You asked a question and it deserves an answer. I will leave that part of my response.
I just came from a DNA that has one of the best screens ever made and this screen is is marvelous even in comparison from every angle even extreme ones.
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eh, this screen iis good, but it's not as good as the DNA. hands down, DNA is better. better viewing angles, and doesn't have that weird rainbowish effect when looking at grays and whatnot..apparently there's a layer in there that HTC bought the rights to that LG i guess didn't...the G2 screen reminds me of my Rezound, which had that same weird effect to it.
dna screen kills all, hands down.
IMHO the G2 has a fantastic display. The viewing angles are fine for what they would be used for... maybe looking at your phone on a table without picking it up. other than that, 99.9% of viewing on a smartphone is done straight on.
Yeah, the viewing angle thing I get, but in real world use it is a non-issue. I came from an S3 and that screen is cosmetically beautiful, but incredibly inaccurate and way too contrasty for my tastes. It's like putting a TV in "demo mode", but all the time. Not to rag on it, I really enjoyed the S3, but if you want the best, most accurate display around, I cannot imagine anybody besting the G2 for a while...
I am loving the screen. The preloaded videos really showcase it.
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eh, this screen iis good, but it's not as good as the DNA. hands down, DNA is better. better viewing angles, and doesn't have that weird rainbowish effect when looking at grays and whatnot..apparently there's a layer in there that HTC bought the rights to that LG i guess didn't...the G2 screen reminds me of my Rezound, which had that same weird effect to it.
dna screen kills all, hands down.
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I have no rainbow our any other screen anomaly.
For full disclosure my DNA had a very light blue spot about 6mm.
The LG screen is "tricky". You don't appreciate it until you look at a high definition video. Even the ones recorded on the DNA look better.
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I just came from a DNA that has one of the best screens ever made and this screen is is marvelous even in comparison from every angle even extreme ones.
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Same here, came from the DNA, still have it so side by side is easy comparison, and while the DNA screen is beautiful by anyone's standards, the G2 has the most gorgeous screen of any phone I've ever seen.
Android Authority's Review...
Listen to what they say about the screen & viewing angles compared to the GS4
Here's GSM Arena's review as well. Pay attention to what the reviewer says about screen quality & viewing angles
There you have it. 2 different respected reviewers saying the same thing & comparing the G2's screen to competitor phones lol
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Out of all the phones I've owned, this display is great. No issues here, unless of course, you're under direct sunlight.
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As someone mentioned the 2 videos they include on the phone are really nice to watch and show what the phone can do in that respect. I also like the ringtones and notifications from the Vienna Boys Choir lol. Also I live in Florida and this is the first phone where I could see the screen all through the day no matter where I was in or outside in the sun, I do have to take off my polarized shades in direct sunlight or the screen is too dark but that was the only time I couldn't see lol. Some folks complain about using the volume key shortcuts for the camera and quick memo and I say to them you can open them 2 or 3 other ways too. I haven't touched the power button since I got this phone, I just knock it on and off.
Viewing angles?
I'm looking at my phone with the most absurd viewing angles and there is only little change to what I can see. The colours are the same even looking from 160 degrees... I don't get your point here. LG is one of the best display makers out there imo...
I didn't realize how "muddy" my S4 was until I put it down on the desk next to my G2 and the DNA I have here. Someone here mentioned to me that the S4 whites were dirty or grey and sure enough it is, I just didn't notice it until I laid them side by side at the same brightness. I keep my brightness down around 40 to 50% most of the day and the G2 looks better there than the S4 or DNA to me. If I crank the brightness all the way up the S4 looks a lot better but that's not where I keep it set so it doesn't matter. I'll have a Razr Maxx HD here later and I'll compare it too just for curiosities sake. I'm very happy with the G2 screen now especially since I used that tiny nav bar mod.
As for viewing angle, I don't view my phone at an angle and I really don't want people next to me always seeing what I'm typing anyway. I don't WANT a wide angle.
If there are complaints to be had about the G2, believe me, the display ain't one of em. She's drop dead gorgeous.
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I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
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I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
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Wait till the G3 my friend it will blow the competition away
The difference between a phone with a Snapdragon 801 and a Snapdragon 800 is as small as that suggests.
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And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
wait for bigger changes dude. i would wait for lg g3 or nexus 6.
Anything that the S5 offered that the G2 lack? And off those features, do you really need them?
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And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
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Actually the battery life has been proven to be better and the Screen is also the best screen out on the market right now accuracy wise, yes the screen is almost perfectly calibrated and the colors are very good. The GPU is also more potent (578mhz over 450mhz). BUT its made by Samsung so it still a piece of s***
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And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
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You do know that your posts is full of innacuracies and regurgitated fan ? crap? You're wrong pretty much on all points.
I for one am sticking to g2 for a time being and cost versus benefits ratio is definitely in g2 favor.
On grey market in Canada for brand new in the box, it is $400 cash for g2 vs $800 with taxes from provider for sgs5.
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the camera on the g2 is a hit and miss piece of dung. It is by far the most inconsistent camera ive ever used on a smart phone. In a low light shoot out my lumia 920/iphone5s/then g2. and in decent light it is still a fuzzy grainy noisy phone but when the light is optimal its wonderful. the gs5 is similar in terms of camera performence except the shutter is almost instant like on the iphone 5s. the g2 takes way too long to focus and shoot.plus the s5 is water resistant . personally id wait another month and see what the G3 is all about. thats what im doing.
Wait and see. I'd call the S5 and the G2 too close to call, as they each have their own strengths.
The G3 sounds like it'll be better than the S5, thus the wait and see approach...
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I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
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i'd wait AT LEAST till they drop this Knox"feature", was one reason for me to leave Samsung's behind...
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You do know that your posts is full of innacuracies and regurgitated fan �� crap? You're wrong pretty much on all points.
I for one am sticking to g2 for a time being and cost versus benefits ratio is definitely in g2 favor.
On grey market in Canada for brand new in the box, it is $400 cash for g2 vs $800 with taxes from provider for sgs5.
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Really? So I'm imagining my friends' (often repeatedly) bricked S3s and Note 2s? I'm imagining that all the comparison shots I've seen (especially low light) make the G2 camera with its OIS look better than the S5? I'm imagining that even though Samsung released kernel patches for the broken ERASE/DISCARD on S2/S3/Note/Note2 eMMC (not to mention other manufacturer's devices that also used f**ed Sammy eMMC), the performance of those devices now sucks in comparison to other Android hardware running TRIM enabled Android? I'm imagining that the S5 has a smaller capacity battery and I get 7-8 hours SOT out of the G2 running PA4 beta4? Oh, and AMOLEDs - even if you can't see the subpixels, they've finally decided to stop calibrating them to a cartoon colour space, and you can read them outdoors: I've seen myself that even the panel on the S5 suffers from wild differences in colour temperature at different brightness levels and I see no evidence that it won't be subject to the rapid decay that is AFAIK inherent to their manufacture at the moment, the display on my S2 looks crap now. Its gone purple. And the device has hardly been used.
And finally, I'm imagining the fact that my girlfriends old S2, which we replaced with a Nexus 4 after 6 months because it was so crap is the most unstable POS with the worst battery life of any Android device I've ever had the misfortune to own, regardless of what it was running?
GPL compliance? Bootloader security? Any other reasons to hate Samsung required? They're a blight on the face of the Android ecosystem.
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joeynox said:
the camera on the g2 is a hit and miss piece of dung. It is by far the most inconsistent camera ive ever used on a smart phone. In a low light shoot out my lumia 920/iphone5s/then g2. and in decent light it is still a fuzzy grainy noisy phone but when the light is optimal its wonderful. the gs5 is similar in terms of camera performence except the shutter is almost instant like on the iphone 5s. the g2 takes way too long to focus and shoot.plus the s5 is water resistant . personally id wait another month and see what the G3 is all about. thats what im doing.
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Stock camera? Xdabbabs camera is a work at art. Just saying... I can't take a bad photo now.
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Azurael said:
Really? So I'm imagining my friends' (often repeatedly) bricked S3s and Note 2s? I'm imagining that all the comparison shots I've seen (especially low light) make the G2 camera with its OIS look better than the S5? I'm imagining that even though Samsung released kernel patches for the broken ERASE/DISCARD on S2/S3/Note/Note2 eMMC (not to mention other manufacturer's devices that also used f**ed Sammy eMMC), the performance of those devices now sucks in comparison to other Android hardware running TRIM enabled Android? I'm imagining that the S5 has a smaller capacity battery and I get 7-8 hours SOT out of the G2 running PA4 beta4? Oh, and AMOLEDs - even if you can't see the subpixels, they've finally decided to stop calibrating them to a cartoon colour space, and you can read them outdoors: I've seen myself that even the panel on the S5 suffers from wild differences in colour temperature at different brightness levels and I see no evidence that it won't be subject to the rapid decay that is AFAIK inherent to their manufacture at the moment, the display on my S2 looks crap now. Its gone purple. And the device has hardly been used.
And finally, I'm imagining the fact that my girlfriends old S2, which we replaced with a Nexus 4 after 6 months because it was so crap is the most unstable POS with the worst battery life of any Android device I've ever had the misfortune to own, regardless of what it was running?
GPL compliance? Bootloader security? Any other reasons to hate Samsung required? They're a blight on the face of the Android ecosystem.
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I see that indeed you have strong feelings on the subject, and I can go with you, toe to toe, on all points, but I won't. You're just too much all over the place with your arguments, and sufficiently off topic, to make it really not worthwhile discussing this further. Salutations! ?
I stand by my original post.
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changing from G2 to galaxy s5 is not an upgrade. some things like battery and screen are outright downgrade. some other things like fingerprint scanner/heartrate monitor are an upgrade.
The key thing is: you have to decide what factors you personally prioritise. If fingerprint scanner is more important for you than good battery life, go for the S5. Otherwise dont "upgrade".
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I see that indeed you have strong feelings on the subject, and I can go with you, toe to toe, on all points, but I won't. You're just too much all over the place with your arguments, and sufficiently off topic, to make it really not worthwhile discussing this further. Salutations! ��
I stand by my original post.
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So we can summarise this interaction with the following:
'You are wrong'
'Am I? Because my experience and evidence, while largely anecdotal, suggests very much the opposite.'
'I have no counterargument, you are wrong because I say you are and I know best'
Well, that was a waste of time.
Anyway, I hope you have a lovely day too! :highfive:
Edit: But to clarify, you're disputing that there was a widespread issue with bricked S2s, S3s, Notes and Note 2s due to faulty eMMC? You're disputing that the brightness of subpixels in AMOLED displays decay quite noticeably and at a different rate by colour (which is why they're PenTile in the first place) within the typical usage span of a mobile device equipped with one (say 2 years?) You're disputing that the CM device maintainers for Exynos devices threatened to quit/did quit over Samsung's delayed and dysfunctional kernel source dumps? Because I assure you, all of those are FACTS. Not all totally relevant to the S5, but factual. They've proven they have reckless disregard for their customers and go out of their way to make things difficult for the kind of people who hang out here on XDA.
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So we can summarise this interaction with the following:
'You are wrong'
'Am I? Because my experience and evidence, while largely anecdotal, suggests very much the opposite.'
'I have no counterargument, you are wrong because I say you are and I know best'
Well, that was a waste of time.
Anyway, I hope you have a lovely day too! :highfive:
Edit: But to clarify, you're disputing that there was a widespread issue with bricked S2s, S3s, Notes and Note 2s due to faulty eMMC? You're disputing that the brightness of subpixels in AMOLED displays decay quite noticeably and at a different rate by colour (which is why they're PenTile in the first place) within the typical usage span of a mobile device equipped with one (say 2 years?) You're disputing that the CM device maintainers for Exynos devices threatened to quit/did quit over Samsung's delayed and dysfunctional kernel source dumps? Because I assure you, all of those are FACTS. Not all totally relevant to the S5, but factual. They've proven they have reckless disregard for their customers and go out of their way to make things difficult for the kind of people who hang out here on XDA.
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And youre digressing thus not helping the OP
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I do not own the S5, but tinkered with one a bit on the day of release. I am sure in some respects the S5 is an upgrade to the G2. I hear the camera is better than the stock G2 camera. Battery life is also improved. The thing is, the battery life on my G2 is soo good ( and so much better than the S4 that I had previously) that I cannot imagine the S5 offering me a noticeable improvement. As for the camera, since I started using modded cameras (Jinsu or Xdabbeb) I have not had any issues. The stock camera had some issues (like the long delay before shooting and i think low-light performance). I think the two phones are so close, that you may be better off waiting a few weeks to see what the G3 has to offer.
I returned my s5 after 7 hours. the camera is garbage. the phone got as hot as the s4 did. the screen while nice, did not match the accuracy and whites of the g2. it had crappy build quality bc it has the body shifting issue my s3 had, where the battery didn't fit right in the cavity and would move inside that cavity and made the phone twist and crack everytime you picked it up.
I stuck to my g2 and I'll wait for the g3.
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I tried an s5 at an att store yesterday and I like the feel of the device better than the g2 and the camera was great. It was super fast and took insanely sharp images. Low light wasn't good. The screen is gorgeous the weight is good. Its not a great leap over the g2 but it is a nice device. The g3 is rumored to have a very high resolution screen which is useless . hopefully they fix the bad camera. All LG has to do is water proof , fix the camera low light and noise issues and possible up the battery to 3400. That would be golden
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So I am THINKING about getting the V30 at Verizon come holiday time. If you go on YouTube, you see how many wonderful reviews this phone gets, and to be honest, the phone does look pretty bad ass. HOWEVER, 2 years ago, the V10 had awesome reviews on YouTube and seemed like a solid phone, so I bought it. Well after about a year, and having gone through 3 V10's (or the same one repaired 3 times) due to bootloop problems, I am a little skeptical about how the V30 is going to turn out. Also I am seeing that the new Pixel is having screen burn in issues, and it being made by LG, this makes me even more worried about the V30. I really want to get this phone, but I also want to ask all of you owners how it has been holding up for you so far. Any issues like the V10? Such as the very irritating Bluetooth issues, battery life, etc...
If you are worried about your device bootlooping, then wait for the non-carrier versions to come out and keep waiting to see if they actually end up being rootable. If they are, then it is easy enough to unlock the bootloader, request the developer unlock, and then reflash stock or a ROM to recover from any potential bootloop situation. If you decide to go with the Version carrier version, then LG's lack of quality control for their software could potentially still be an issue in the future. There has already been one update so far and no one has reported it bootlooping their device as of yet.
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So I am THINKING about getting the V30 at Verizon come holiday time. If you go on YouTube, you see how many wonderful reviews this phone gets, and to be honest, the phone does look pretty bad ass. HOWEVER, 2 years ago, the V10 had awesome reviews on YouTube and seemed like a solid phone, so I bought it. Well after about a year, and having gone through 3 V10's (or the same one repaired 3 times) due to bootloop problems, I am a little skeptical about how the V30 is going to turn out. Also I am seeing that the new Pixel is having screen burn in issues, and it being made by LG, this makes me even more worried about the V30. I really want to get this phone, but I also want to ask all of you owners how it has been holding up for you so far. Any issues like the V10? Such as the very irritating Bluetooth issues, battery life, etc...
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You can put a check in the "no problems" box for me.[emoji6]
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jaedenhudson14 said:
So I am THINKING about getting the V30 at Verizon come holiday time. If you go on YouTube, you see how many wonderful reviews this phone gets, and to be honest, the phone does look pretty bad ass. HOWEVER, 2 years ago, the V10 had awesome reviews on YouTube and seemed like a solid phone, so I bought it. Well after about a year, and having gone through 3 V10's (or the same one repaired 3 times) due to bootloop problems, I am a little skeptical about how the V30 is going to turn out. Also I am seeing that the new Pixel is having screen burn in issues, and it being made by LG, this makes me even more worried about the V30. I really want to get this phone, but I also want to ask all of you owners how it has been holding up for you so far. Any issues like the V10? Such as the very irritating Bluetooth issues, battery life, etc...
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I have yet to here bootloop problem of lg g6, lg v20, or lg v30. I know most people are scare of LG but bootloop was a thing of a pass with the lg g4, lg g5, lg v10
jcsww said:
If you are worried about your device bootlooping, then wait for the non-carrier versions to come out and keep waiting to see if they actually end up being rootable. If they are, then it is easy enough to unlock the bootloader, request the developer unlock, and then reflash stock or a ROM to recover from any potential bootloop situation. If you decide to go with the Version carrier version, then LG's lack of quality control for their software could potentially still be an issue in the future. There has already been one update so far and no one has reported it bootlooping their device as of yet.
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From what I understand, it's not the software that is the problem. The cpu comes un-soldered from the motherboard making the phone pretty much useless. Was a widely known issue with a few lg phones.
I returned one because of screen issues.
We all know about the off-angle blue tint, but mine had it bad. I didn't really notice it until watching a Late Show clip in a dark room -- dark set, Colbert's white shirt, skin tone was all so obviously off, and it shifted blue just a degree or two off axis.
Compared it to the demo models in two Verizon retail stores and despite the bright lighting, the difference in whites was apparent.
Store did an exchange no problem even though I purchased online. New one seems fine.
Since receiving my replacement phone from a first batch phone issue, I have had ZERO issues
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From what I understand, it's not the software that is the problem. The cpu comes un-soldered from the motherboard making the phone pretty much useless. Was a widely known issue with a few lg phones.
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Hmmm. I don't see how that would cause a bootloop if that was the case. A hardware problem with the solder would more than likely cause the phone not to power up at all. Bootloops are usually more software related than hardware unless you are talking about core issues, like with the Nexus 6P. Thankfully I never experienced that on both the units I purchased.
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Hmmm. I don't see how that would cause a bootloop if that was the case. A hardware problem with the solder would more than likely cause the phone not to power up at all. Bootloops are usually more software related than hardware unless you are talking about core issues, like with the Nexus 6P. Thankfully I never experienced that on both the units I purchased.
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Without going too into it, I am part of a class action lawsuit regarding these bootloops. According to all the evidence, the cpu comes un-soldered just enough where the lg logo will appear and the phone freezes. The only way to shut it off after that is to either pull the battery or let the phone die if the battery is not removable.
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Without going too into it, I am part of a class action lawsuit regarding these bootloops. According to all the evidence, the cpu comes un-soldered just enough where the lg logo will appear and the phone freezes. The only way to shut it off after that is to either pull the battery or let the phone die if the battery is not removable.
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Interesting! You should be able to power off the phone by holding the power button until it shuts off, which is about 7 or so seconds. The V30 does come with a 2 year warranty once you register, as long as you are in the US. The rest of the world gets the shaft though and only gets a year.
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Interesting! You should be able to power off the phone by holding the power button until it shuts off, which is about 7 or so seconds. The V30 does come with a 2 year warranty once you register, as long as you are in the US. The rest of the world gets the shaft though and only gets a year.
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Yeah. even the power button wouldn't work. I believe the phones affected were the nexus 5x, LG G4, G5, V10, and I think a couple others. The new 2 year warranty is probably because of this as 90 percent of these failures occurred after the 1 year warranty period. For all the devices affected they extended the warranty to 2 years for bootloop related issues.
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From what I understand, it's not the software that is the problem. The cpu (from some other phone) comes un-soldered from the motherboard (of that OTHER PHONE) making the phone (from years ago) pretty much useless. Was a widely known issue with a few lg phones (not made in 2017).
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jaedenhudson14 said:
Without going too into it, I am part of a class action lawsuit regarding these bootloops (from phones made in past years). According to all the evidence, the cpu (from some other phone) comes un-soldered just enough where the lg logo will appear and the phone freezes. The only way to shut it off after that is to either pull the battery or let the phone (from years ago) die if the battery is not removable.
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Thankfully, that has nothing to do with the LG V30. We are talking about any issues with 2017 LG V30, not phones from past years. You're going to confuse people who think you are talking about problems with the LG V30. I understand you are upset about LG's failures in the past, but the question is about possible CURRENT problems with LG V30.
ChazzMatt said:
But we are talking about issues with 2017 LG V30 not phones from past years.
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That has nothing to do with the LG V30.
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I know. I was explaining to jcsww about the issues of the previous phones and was kinda wondering if the V30 is going to end up the same way those phones did in terms of seeming like pretty bad ass phones for the first year and then developing serious problems after a year.
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I know. I was explaining to jcsww about the issues of the previous phones and was kinda wondering if the V30 is going to end up the same way those phones did in terms of seeming like pretty bad ass phones for the first year and then developing serious problems after a year.
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I understand. It's just skimming through the thread, there was all these details about CPU coming loose, blah, blah. Sounds scary! But it's not the LG V30.
Mine has zero issues. Very good phone - and that says a lot since I swore years ago Id never own LG again.
I have seen that Verizon loads so much bloatware on the phone ... I was amazed. I have Tmo ... a few things on there than cannot be removed or disabled, but nothing crazy.
Hi,
I am seriously thinking of buying LG V30 when it becomes widely available in Europe,
however this review (https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design)
has put me off. Can anybody comment on the screen issues this guy mentions?
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Hi,
I am seriously thinking of buying LG V30 when it becomes widely available in Europe,
however this review (https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design)
has put me off. Can anybody comment on the screen issues this guy mentions?
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I've been following closely those complaints about the display. From what I read on Reddit or on XDA, it seems that only the first batches of V30s had those display issues, but LG corrected their production in october. The Verge must have tested one of those first units (their review was published on october 16). It should be solved right now, complaints have dramatically decreased lately...
deciBel71 said:
Hi,
I am seriously thinking of buying LG V30 when it becomes widely available in Europe,
however this review (https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design)
has put me off. Can anybody comment on the screen issues this guy mentions?
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pomponazzo said:
I've been following closely those complaints about the display. From what I read on Reddit or on XDA, it seems that only the first batches of V30s had those display issues, but LG corrected their production in october. The Verge must have tested one of those first units (their review was published on october 16). It should be solved right now, complaints have dramatically decreased lately...
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And I can show you a review (sample below) from October 12, where the both pre-production and early production displays (on two different phones) were tested thoroughly and nothing was wrong. The point I'm making is even in the pre-production and early production phase seems the the problems were not widespread. It was luck of the draw, not every phone. Dozens of professional reviewers praised the display, but a couple of reviewers got bad ones. Same with early purchasers. But Android Headlines got great displays in both pre-production and final retail (but still early production). So, the display issues had to be some minor percentage.
That's not to say LG hasn't improved the process so there's less lemons getting through the line, or perhaps with another month under their belt improved the quality even more, but you wouldn't have gotten such glowing reviews if every phone LG released in early October was a disaster.
Note the date, and note they tested two separate phones.
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https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/10/lg-v30-review-ultimate-creativity-tool.html
LG V30 Review – The Ultimate Creativity Tool
October 12, 2017
There is some color shifting when looking at the display from an angle, pushing the normally warm hue of the display to a much cooler, bluer one.
This color shifting is a bit odd for an OLED, as any color shifting is usually caused by the oleophobic coating on the glass rather than shifting of the panel itself, although without taking the glass off it would be difficult to determine the reasoning for the shifting. It doesn’t look all that odd though simply because so many displays already exhibit a cooler tone to them, and while you’ll certainly notice the difference when looking at the display straight on, it might not be so noticeable to folks looking at the phone with you. Outdoor visibility is not affected by this color change at all, and in fact you’ll find it’s incredibly easy to see the V30’s display outdoors, no matter how sunny it is.
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Panel uniformity is perfect thanks to the fact that OLED’s pixel illumination methodology is done via individual pixels and not via a backlight that can easily exhibit light bleeding or uneven surface lighting.
Despite some reports we’ve seen during the preview period with the device, both our preview device, as well as the final retail unit, never showed signs of panel color uniformity issues, and looks fine at any brightness. When we test panel uniformity we use three different solid color backgrounds:
100% white,
100% black and
50% gray.
Each of these are then tested at the panel’s lowest and highest brightness, as well as a 50% brightness test. You’ll also find no issues with pixel refresh rates or pixel persistence rates of any kind, and this panel is an excellent performer for VR for many reasons, as we’ll cover below.
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https://hothardware.com/reviews/lg-v30-review?page=6
LG V30 Review: Setting The Record Straight For A Great Smartphone
October 27, 2017
In the final analysis, again, we're here to set the record straight on the LG V30. Though garnering its fair share of passionate praise, some have taken specific issue with this phone's LG-built pOLED display. To that we would quite simply offer that we're unsure what a select few others are looking at. Perhaps they're observing image inconsistency in corner-case lighting conditions, or maybe even in certain apps, where Android's gradient overlays can cause a "perceived" banding effect. We're not sure what others may have seen, but what we're looking at is a pretty fantastic flagship Android phone here, with an equally fantastic display.
To wit, I have used Samsung Galaxy devices as my personal phones for the past few generations, from the Galaxy S5 on up to the Galaxy S8+. Side-by-side versus Samsung's AMOLED displays, the LG V30 might not offer quite the same viewing angles as the GS8+, but the V30 is very competitive. In fact, I prefer the V30's slightly cooler screen calibration.
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No problems with my V30 so far. Manuf in October, only had it a few weeks. Slightly disappointed in the auto camera shooting (the Google camera app works for me, have not tried it much), but the most striking thing so far is the absolutely stellar battery life I am getting. I don't keep screen on time numbers and such, but I go to bed at night with well above 50%, and if I top up at all throughout the day, I'll go to bed with 65-70%. Thats using waze for about an hour, web surfing, reddit, Facebook, messaging, location turned on, etc. No messing around.
pomponazzo said:
I've been following closely those complaints about the display. From what I read on Reddit or on XDA, it seems that only the first batches of V30s had those display issues, but LG corrected their production in october. The Verge must have tested one of those first units (their review was published on october 16). It should be solved right now, complaints have dramatically decreased lately...
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Yeah I read that big thread on reddit too. After reading it, it made me really second guess getting the V30, but after reading your post it makes me feel a bit better knowing LG acknowledged the issue and corrected it. So to be on the safe side should I try to make sure I have an october made unit (if I even have a say in it)?
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
I have a BOE Seems really great, nice vibrant colours, whites and Blacks are really good. Only issue I have is if you turn off the adaptive brightness the powergenie dims most Google and Facebook apps. But the last few days I have left the adaptive brightness on auto and it seems to not dim as much. I tend to push the brightness up a little bit though.
Something I have noticed, not related to the screen, is I occasionally hear a little click in the sound, I'm not sure what that is. Unless big brother is activating my microphone. ?
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I must admit, I do notice the colour issue mostly in Chrome but it doesn't seem to be exclusive to it. Plus the colour banding issue is really bad on mine. For instance, at 1:28 on this video (https:// youtu.be/tO01J-M3g0U) the sky has awful banding and also an actual flickering. I guess I have a bad display. I just wonder if they will see it or just send it back. It's definetly there and anyone used to good screens would see it however my aging parents said there was nothing wrong with it so it isn't obvious to anyone not used to an OLED screen and I imagine they could easily say they see no issues. Ahhhh.
No issues with my BOE screen. If you secretly swapped it with a (good) LG I wouldn't notice.
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BOE is the best much much better then LG super
boe screens are better imo, this lottery with LG is awful
Cheers guys. I must just have a defect BOE. It definitely doesn't look right at all.
Nem9h88 said:
Cheers guys. I must just have a defect BOE. It definitely doesn't look right at all.
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That was my BOE mate 20 pro. Build date 18B05.
djBarren said:
That was my BOE mate 20 pro. Build date 18B05.
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Ooooooh interestingly that is exactly what mine looks like but reversed and guess what... Same build number. Did you get yours replaced with Huawei or a retailer?
Got my BOE 18B23, looks great - you might have a faulty one.
Looks like a faulty BOE screen...I examined mine obsessively within my 2 weeks return period and found no issues. It MIGHT be a bit less bright that LG, but I am comparing it with Youtube videos and Interweb pics, so it's a false call.
Happy so far.
Definitely looks like you have a defective BOE display. I got mine today (18B23) and it's great, at least compared to my old V30 it's much better.
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Ooooooh interestingly that is exactly what mine looks like but reversed and guess what... Same build number. Did you get yours replaced with Huawei or a retailer?
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I received a refund after an email to the Carphone Warehouse CEO. As the IMEI I had was from Huawei not CPW. The CPW have been absolutely fantastic to me.
I went yesterday hell bent on a pixel 3xl. But I was drawn toward the Mate 20 Pro. After much discussion with the manager I ended up walking out with a Mate 20 Pro, 18B26 and it absolutely perfect. It's what the phone should have been from the get go. Uniform, responsive, fast fingerprint scanner, sharp and vibrant.
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I received a refund after an email to the Carphone Warehouse CEO. As the IMEI I had was from Huawei not CPW. The CPW have been absolutely fantastic to me.
I went yesterday hell bent on a pixel 3xl. But I was drawn toward the Mate 20 Pro. After much discussion with the manager I ended up walking out with a Mate 20 Pro, 18B26 and it absolutely perfect. It's what the phone should have been from the get go. Uniform, responsive, fast fingerprint scanner, sharp and vibrant.
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Give me this ceo email address, please. Having problems with cpw
lawtq said:
Give me this ceo email address, please. Having problems with cpw
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I'll DM it to you.
Nem9h88 said:
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
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My BOE is perfect. Actually nicer than my Note 9 and Pixel 3. LG was no better.
Nem9h88 said:
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
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I have EXACTLY the same problem as you. This is also my 3rd Mate 20 Pro. First was LG, with the green glow issue, that was visible only in dark room with brightness set to minimum and grey background (I am still mad why I returned it, because it was better than BOE) . My second device had a BOE screen with very very bad screen uniformity at low brightness. And now my third Mate has also BOE screen with the same problem as yours. Lower half of the display has a green tint and the upper half has a pink tint. I dont mind if the screen has a tint, because that can be "repaired" by tweaking color temperature. But this is super annoying. When you scroll on sites with white background you can see how it goes from green to pink tint. Otherwise screen is great and therefore I also have a concern about the next device that I might get as a replacement, as this is clearly a lottery now. I am probably going to wait until like a month and then try to get a replacement (I hope they will admit something is wrong with the display) . It is not really affecting the day-to-day usage of the device, it is just my eyes and heart is hurting when looking at the display. Maybe I am just too picky, but I expect from the device which costs 1k€ to be worthy of its price in every department, especially display.
mtvzbnck said:
I have EXACTLY the same problem as you. This is also my 3rd Mate 20 Pro. First was LG, with the green glow issue, that was visible only in dark room with brightness set to minimum and grey background (I am still mad why I returned it, because it was better than BOE) . My second device had a BOE screen with very very bad screen uniformity at low brightness. And now my third Mate has also BOE screen with the same problem as yours. Lower half of the display has a green tint and the upper half has a pink tint. I dont mind if the screen has a tint, because that can be "repaired" by tweaking color temperature. But this is super annoying. When you scroll on sites with white background you can see how it goes from green to pink tint. Otherwise screen is great and therefore I also have a concern about the next device that I might get as a replacement, as this is clearly a lottery now. I am probably going to wait until like a month and then try to get a replacement (I hope they will admit something is wrong with the display) . It is not really affecting the day-to-day usage of the device, it is just my eyes and heart is hurting when looking at the display. Maybe I am just too picky, but I expect from the device which costs 1k€ to be worthy of its price in every department, especially display.
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This complete echos my device and my sentiments about the whole thing. For the money this device should not have the issues. It is a fact. This is my first Huawei device and I'm almost certain it will now be my last.
I also don't know which device I would buy, instead of Mate 20 Pro. Once you get used to this IR facial recognition, fingerprint scanner becomes almost useless. It works in every conditions and it's sometimes even too fast. I've been using Mate 9 for the last 2 years and it was super fast from the first to the last day. I got used to the EMUI, gestures are awesome! Oh, and I must not forget about the wide angle lens, it's great. I was thinking about the Note 9, the best display, performance wise also very good (not on pair with Kirin 980 though), camera also very good, fingerprint scanner on the back with facial recognition that is significantly slower and on top of that it's still Samsung, which means that it will get very slow in just a year from buying it (it's also almost 100€ more in my country). Another alternative is OnePlus 6T, display is good, performance it's excellent, software is the best right now, the cameras are on pair with the Note 9, but it lacks wireless charging, IP rating, facial recognition depends only on camera (it doesn't work in the dark) and I can't get it from my carrier. Mate 20 Pro is also the King when it comes to the battery life! So from my point of view, there are no real alternatives to the Mate 20 Pro and I really don't know what to do. Part of me wants to get a replacement ASAP (I am scared of that also), but the other part wants to get something else, because this is going nowhere.
I think a lot of the XDA reports about the LG screens being defective were phony and were made to create mischief and discourage people from buying this phone.
When the gluegate reports started coming in on XDA easily 70% were from XDA accounts that were new and were opened specifically to report supposedly defective screens. How could anybody not have found that suspicious?
The supposed screen bleed issue is a joke. People were comparing the folded OLED on the Mate 20 Pro with Samsung phone screens that don't have folded OLED displays. Obviously the results are going to be different because they are not the same kind of displays. It is 100% normal to have bleed on the edges with a folded OLED display and it is also normal for the edges of the display to look lighter when doing the "uniformity test" that people were told proved the displays were defective.
If you go into the display settings it takes less than 10 seconds to make it appear that your screen has "gone hulk" and take a screenshot.
I have a UK Mate 20 Pro that was preordered before launch. It has an LG display from the initial batch that multiple XDA members claim were 100% defective. The display looks great and is not defective in any way.
A few weeks ago I purchased a 256GB global version and planned to upgrade. But that phone had a BOE display that was very inferior to the LG one so I ended up returning it. The BOE screen had washed out colors and was noticibly less bright than the LG display which is the reason people don't see screen bleed at the edges. Pixel response was also slower than the LG display.
A lot of people who participated in a "screen lottery" and kept returning M20P phones until they got one with a BOE display ultimately found that those displays had inferior color and brightness to the LG display.
I'm pretty certain there was nothing wrong with the phone you returned. Unfortunately I have seen 3 M20P phones with BOE displays and all 3 had washed out colors compared to the LG display.