Buying a unlockable moto-z - Moto Z Questions & Answers

I want to buy a moto-z that has an unlockable bootloader. Currently one needs to hook up the USB and boot into fastboot mode and "fastboot oem get_unlock_data". Is there a way to know if the phone I can buy on amazon will allow unlocking the bootloader?
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YileKu said:
I want to buy a moto-z that has an unlockable bootloader. Currently one needs to hook up the USB and boot into fastboot mode and "fastboot oem get_unlock_data". Is there a way to know if the phone I can buy on amazon will allow unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks
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Just like when buying officially, it's a lottery....unless you ask the seller to check it for you.

The Marionette said:
Just like when buying officially, it's a lottery....unless you ask the seller to check it for you.
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That was my backup plan. I guess one cannot assume that an "unlocked" phone means the bootloader is unlocked and replaceable.
Thx,
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YileKu said:
That was my backup plan. I guess one cannot assume that an "unlocked" phone means the bootloader is unlocked and replaceable.
Thx,
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"Unlocked" while selling the phone means it accepts all carriers. They almost never provide bootloader-related info unless you ask them yourself.

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no OEM unlock?

On the latest t mobile software, dev mode enabled, but I dont see "OEM UNLOCK" anywhere...does anyone have that option on their note 8?
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wase4711 said:
On the latest t mobile software, dev mode enabled, but I dont see "OEM UNLOCK" anywhere...does anyone have that option on their note 8?
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I think you use that TMO device unlock app.
I thought that was just for carrier unlock, NOT OEM unlock...have you used that app?
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wase4711 said:
I thought that was just for carrier unlock, NOT OEM unlock...have you used that app?
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No, I disabled it. Been with TMO too long, I'm not going anywhere and neither are they. Thanks for teaching me the difference, lol! This bootloader is locked.
there are a few different "locks" to deal with on this phone; the bootloader, which is currently locked, carrier lock, meaning you are locked to tmobile, and the OEM unlock, which allows you to flash roms, both stock and custom, assuming you have an unlocked boot-loader
On most other phones, in the developer options, there is a OEM Unlock entry you activate if you plan on flashing anything...
wase4711 said:
there are a few different "locks" to deal with on this phone; the bootloader, which is currently locked, carrier lock, meaning you are locked to tmobile, and the OEM unlock, which allows you to flash roms, both stock and custom, assuming you have an unlocked boot-loader
On most other phones, in the developer options, there is a OEM Unlock entry you activate if you plan on flashing anything...
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The OEM Unlock option doesn't appear until 7 days after the device was first booted on the Exynos version. That might not be the case with your version because the bootloader is locked so the OEM Unlock toggle is redundant.
Have a read through this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/info-note-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140
I've had many phones with locked bootloaders in the past where the OEM unlock appeared in the dev options, so unless this is something new with the note 8. im not sure why its not there..
wase4711 said:
I've had many phones with locked bootloaders in the past where the OEM unlock appeared in the dev options, so unless this is something new with the note 8. im not sure why its not there..
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All the OEM unlock toggle does is allow you to flash a custom recovery so you can then flash custom ROMs only if the the bootloader is unlocked. If the bootloader is locked like on US snapdragon N8s having the toggle is pointless.
If you check out the thread linked above you'll see that a bunch of people with exynos versions that do have unlocked boot loaders are missing the toggle which later appears & disappears. No one knows why yet, all just speculation.
The N8 is the first to have this happen. What a big headache. Hopefully they figure it out. I'm one of the lucky with an exynos N8 without that issue.
yeah, its not a big deal, especially since there is no way to unlock this bootloader at this point anyways...weird that it comes on and off on the Exynos though..
Torquemada288 said:
The OEM Unlock option doesn't appear until 7 days after the device was first booted on the Exynos version. That might not be the case with your version because the bootloader is locked so the OEM Unlock toggle is redundant.
Have a read through this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/info-note-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140
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Correct, for our t mobile USA ones, we will never get that OEM Unlock option in any amount of days.
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
smiley45 said:
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
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We already have a root, it just wasn't released yet and it seems to be the same as S8, so with similar disadvantages. Expect to be out any day now.
smiley45 said:
Well if we can. Get root we can oem toggle
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Even if you get the OEM unlock toggle to appear it doesn't mean anything. If you have a locked bootloader the OEM unlock won't unlock it. OEM unlock is just a safety switch.
shouren04 said:
Even if you get the OEM unlock toggle to appear it doesn't mean anything. If you have a locked bootloader the OEM unlock won't unlock it. OEM unlock is just a safety switch.
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Yes that maybe so.. but I will feel better when I add that option to my note 8... I'm just waiting on root and it on form there
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Oem needs to be unlocked before u can us cf autoroot or any other means of root I have j7 metro no oem unlock option tried to use Odin and cf auto root it failed because the bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked. I know this is for the n8 but I seem to be suffering from the same problem.
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XxdeadhatexX said:
Oem needs to be unlocked before u can us cf autoroot or any other means of root I have j7 metro no oem unlock option tried to use Odin and cf auto root it failed because the bootloader is locked and can't be unlocked. I know this is for the n8 but I seem to be suffering from the same problem.
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Does having an engineering bootloader help?
How do I test if the bootloader is unlocked?
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reukiodo said:
Does having an engineering bootloader help?
How do I test if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Its not plain and simple.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
so i cant root or put twrp on my j727U ? SEEN PEOPLE DO IT WITH J727p so why not the U ? no oem toggle on a galaxy how is this, should all come together and never buy phones from a company that goes against what customers want.
so i cant root or put twrp recovery on my galaxy j727U ? ? how has a phone tech not beat this by now even without oem toggle , it should still be beat by now.. this is why i liked htc cause they unlock bootloader for you and allow it on there own page, anyone wanna trade a htc for a new galaxy j7 ?
lol i think this thread needs to be closed
Yes there is an OEM unlock option. I know because I discovered It! Simply flash the K2 combination file, when factory binary loads go into the left hand screen, with apps. Click on the settings icon, then enable dev options the usual way. OEM unlock should be there. You may need to toggle it off and on a few times before you get the popup security message.
It makes a change in the system as it should. If you do a factory reset, then reload the factory binary, you'll see that Dev Options are already enabled (saved from last time you unlocked) AND OEM will already be toggled. This means that the unlock sticks!
So there you go. It even changes the OEM line in the .prop.... that being said...
DO NOT TRY TO FLASH TWRP AFTER DOING THIS!!!
(I already tried, the secure boot still is in effect, and you'll have a softbrick until you can re Odin your recovery. )
The OEM unlock may be one part of this, but there's more. Hopefully we are making progress toward the goal of a bootloader unlock!

Phone stuck in fastboot LG V30 H932

I have a LG V30 H932 device that is stuck in fastboot mode. I can get into download mode to flash kdz but that is all. I tried countless times to flash kdz to fix like what the internet says but i have no luck. Please help. I recently flashed H93220K Oreo to it. It still is stuck.
Either there is a hardware problem with your phone, or you wiped out a partition that doesn't get flashed by a KDZ but is required to boot your phone.
Hardware problem would obviously have to be handled by LG, but if you can give some more info on what you were doing that caused this to happen, I can probably help you fix it.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Either there is a hardware problem with your phone, or you wiped out a partition that doesn't get flashed by a KDZ but is required to boot your phone.
Hardware problem would obviously have to be handled by LG, but if you can give some more info on what you were doing that caused this to happen, I can probably help you fix it.
-- Brian
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I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter instead i have this problem.
Kyle9312 said:
I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter -- instead i have this problem.
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You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
EDIT: According to @runningnak3d, apparently you can erase it, but it's not easy and you needed to make preparations BEFORE unlocking the bootloader the first time.
Kyle9312 said:
I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter instead i have this problem.
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Did you let it boot each time you unlocked / relocked?
ChazzMatt said:
You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
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Actually you can reset the counter, just not by flashing a KDZ. Unlike Samsung, the unlock counter isn't stored in an eFuse.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Actually you can reset the counter, just not by flashing a KDZ. Unlike Samsung, the unlock counter isn't stored in an eFuse.
-- Brian
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Interesting. I did not know that. In researching, I didn't find that answer. Thank you.
Then what use is it?
ChazzMatt said:
Interesting. I did not know that. In researching, I didn't find that answer.
Then what use is it?
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The only way (that *I* know of) is to make a full backup ... and I mean FULL -- every partition except userdata, when you first get the phone -- heck before it even boots. When you are ready to sell your phone, or if it needs a repair and it isn't so toast that you can't do a restore, then you restore that backup. If your phone is so broke that it won't boot, I have never had LG give me grief.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
The only way (that *I* know of) is to make a full backup ... and I mean FULL -- every partition except userdata, when you first get the phone -- heck before it even boots. When you are ready to sell your phone, or if it needs a repair and it isn't so toast that you can't do a restore, then you restore that backup. If your phone is so broke that it won't boot, I have never had LG give me grief.
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Ah, I re-read your answer! So, user can NOT do by simply re-flashing KDZ. User needs to make preparations well before unlocking the bootloader the first time.
runningnak3d said:
Did you let it boot each time you unlocked / relocked?
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Yes. I had to set it up and open the dev options to allow OEM unlocking.
Is there any hope for my situation or am I up s**t creek without a paddle with this phone (pardon my language)?
ChazzMatt said:
You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
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I called LG and explained my problem and I mentioned that the bootloader is unlocked and they told me that because the bootloader is unlocked I have voided the warranty.
Also...a little side note, the LG V30 is the first V flagships I have come accross that explicitly says in the bootloader menu that unlocking it will void warranty (therefore this is where the need for a bootloader unlock counter comes in).
If your carrier sees any numbers in the bootloader menu (any trips) then they won't help you because the warranty is voided.
Kyle9312 said:
I called LG and explained my problem and I mentioned that the bootloader is unlocked and they told me that because the bootloader is unlocked I have voided the warranty.
Also...a little side note, the LG V30 is the first V flagships I have come accross that explicitly says in the bootloader menu that unlocking it will void warranty (therefore this is where the need for a bootloader unlock counter comes in).
If your carrier sees any numbers in the bootloader menu (any trips) then they won't help you because the warranty is voided.
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The others that use the WTF exploit do not have to waive warranty to unlock their bootloader.
It still may be voided --but there's nothing stating that because we are doing it without LG permission.
On one of my US998 V30, I have LG's OFFICIAL bootloader unlock code. Had to jump through hoops proving I was original owner, the IMEI, the DEVICE_ID, etc -- and had to waive the warranty. Then I got the bootloader unlock code -- which only works with that one phone. After bootloader unlock, of course I had full fastboot flash commands.
T-mobile H932 doesn't have those fastboot flash commands. That's why we said the T-mobile H932 only has "fake" bootloader unlock. @runningnak3d worked around that with his laf exploit, but took some real work!
Whereas with WTF (which H932 cannot use), we don't need LG's permission so there's no AGREEMENT or NOTICE your warranty is being waived. I've used that on US998 V30+, which is NOT eligible for LG's official bootloader unlock code.
ChazzMatt said:
The others that use the WTF exploit do not have to waive warranty to unlock their bootloader.
It still may be voided --but there's nothing stating that because we are doing it without LG permission.
On one of my US998 V30, I have LG's OFFICIAL bootloader unlock code. Had to jump through hoops proving I was original owner, the IMEI, the DEVICE_ID, etc -- and had to waive the warranty. Then I got the bootloader unlock code -- which only works with that one phone. After bootloader unlock, of course I had full fastboot flash commands.
T-mobile H932 doesn't have those fastboot flash commands. That's why we said the T-mobile H932 only has "fake" bootloader unlock. @runningnak3d worked around that with his laf exploit, but took some real work!
Whereas with WTF (which H932 cannot use), we don't need LG's permission so there's no AGREEMENT or NOTICE your warranty is being waived. I've used that on US998 V30+, which is NOT eligible for LG's official bootloader unlock code.
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I dont see how lecturing me about the LAF exploit is helping me fix my phone. Please stick to the topic at hand.
Kyle9312 said:
I dont see how lecturing me about the LAF exploit is helping me fix my phone. Please stick to the topic at hand.
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1) I was replying to your comment about voiding the warranty. You brought up the topic, not me.
2) You obviously did not actually read it, because I was not "lecturing"on anything. I was giving information which may help others.
3) I will reply to what I want and how I want.
4) Try a MASTER RESET .
ChazzMatt said:
1) I was replying to your comment about voiding the warranty. You brought up the topic, not me.
2) You obviously did not actually read it, because I was not "lecturing"on anything. I was giving information which may help others.
3) I will reply to what I want and how I want.
4) Try a MASTER RESET .
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I tried master reset also a few times and no success.
Kyle9312 said:
I tried master reset also a few times and no success.
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I'm sorry you are in this predicament.
UPDATE
I got the bootloader unlock cohnter to reset to zero using "fastboot flashing lock" or something and it reset the counter. T-mobile replaced the device under a warrenty replacement.

Question Can anyone upload the boot.img if they can find it?

I'm trying to flash Magisk, but seeing as there is no TWRP yet, the only method is by patching the boot.img. If anyone could get their hands on that and upload it, I would be very grateful.
Thanks in advance!
I have been looking around for it on the oneplus site and can't seem to locate it. <did you get the bootloader unlocked?
Not yet because none have been unlocked yet. Hopefully by about 60 days in they will be willing to unlock it.
If I actually had the skills to do it <i would just pay the little bit of change for the phone just to have it unlocked. Sigh I thought oneplus had a decent sized community for messing with these thngs.
alarmdude9 said:
If I actually had the skills to do it <i would just pay the little bit of change for the phone just to have it unlocked. Sigh I thought oneplus had a decent sized community for messing with these thngs.
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Usually, yes but sadly T-Mobile is only (as far as I'm aware) giving these phones out on contract so unlocking is not possible yet.
It's possible to buy one of these on the oneplus store, too, now. I've ordered one, and I'm hoping that since it's not affiliated with any particular carrier, it'll be factory-unlocked?
We'll see, but if all goes well I may be able to upload a boot image wednesday or thursday.
Edit: though, I'm skeptical. Even if you have a boot.img, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, can you really install Magisk?
And if you have an unlocked bootloader, you should be able to extract the boot.img file yourself using `fastboot`. Or at least, such extraction is possible.
We need somebody help
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daboross said:
It's possible to buy one of these on the oneplus store, too, now. I've ordered one, and I'm hoping that since it's not affiliated with any particular carrier, it'll be factory-unlocked?
We'll see, but if all goes well I may be able to upload a boot image wednesday or thursday.
Edit: though, I'm skeptical. Even if you have a boot.img, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, can you really install Magisk?
And if you have an unlocked bootloader, you should be able to extract the boot.img file yourself using `fastboot`. Or at least, such extraction is possible.
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If not then I guess we'll wait a while and see if T-Mobile will be generous enough to unlock the device for us. I'm sure they'll understand since OnePlus has a long history of allowing mods.
mingkee said:
We need somebody help
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Sorry I cannot help with that, update full zip hasn't been posted by OnePlus on its support website, so stock boot.img cannot be retrieved from payload.bin
I've gotten my device, and it is fully unlockable - I've now unlocked fastboot.
Unfortunately, I couldn't get fetching partitions via fastboot to work - I think the OnePlus Nord N200 5G might not support it.
I'm thinking the easiest way forward would be to get a TWRP build working, and use that to retrieve the boot image? Or just wait until oneplus posts a full update zip, if they do that.
daboross said:
I've gotten my device, and it is fully unlockable - I've now unlocked fastboot.
Unfortunately, I couldn't get fetching partitions via fastboot to work - I think the OnePlus Nord N200 5G might not support it.
I'm thinking the easiest way forward would be to get a TWRP build working, and use that to retrieve the boot image? Or just wait until oneplus posts a full update zip, if they do that.
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Ah I see, you bought it from the OnePlus Store. That's awesome to hear! Sad about the partitions though. I'm wondering if the N100 TWRP build would be similar enough to use as a base for the N200, I'm no expert on any of it but it seems quite reasonable.
Perhaps somebody can do full system dump and find boot
I'm eagerly following this. As soon as root is figured out, I'm going to buy this phone.
Edit: Is there a way to create a bounty for this? I would pay. I am new to this community.
bouyakasha said:
I'm eagerly following this. As soon as root is figured out, I'm going to buy this phone.
Edit: Is there a way to create a bounty for this? I would pay. I am new to this community.
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Nah, no bounties here. The bounty is the community being grateful for your contribution.
Now mine is SIM unlocked and OEM unlock enabled.
Now I have to figure out how to get boot.img
mingkee said:
Now mine is SIM unlocked and OEM unlock enabled.
Now I have to figure out how to get boot.img
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You could gain elevated access over adb and maybe find the boot.img
mingkee said:
Now mine is SIM unlocked and OEM unlock enabled.
Now I have to figure out how to get boot.img
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Did you buy it outright or did tmobile hook you up?
I paid in full already
I just need to stop being lazy and go pay for it. Maybe when someone gets something going. Lazy is winning out at this point lol.
You don't need to pay it off to get your device unlocked. mobbdeep unlocked my phone even though it wasn't paid off yet and the OEM unlock option isn't greyed out anymore.
However, there's something that's been bothering me: With T-Mobile branded OP devices, you have to fill out an unlock request form on their website to unlock the bootloader. However, I checked their form and there's no option to request an unlock token for the N200 5G, so I'm not even sure if the bootloader can be unlocked on the Nord N200 just yet. Granted, I haven't tried to unlock the bootloader on my device yet. Can someone else try and unlock the bootloader on their N200?

Question OEM unlocking 🔓

Hi there, I want to root my pixel , but I can't. (Screenshot) I buy phone with Verizon contract , but now it's contract free. If someone can help me. (I'm from Ukraine,we don't have Verizon)
For Verizon phones, regardless whether contract free or not, it is impossible to unlock the bootloader.
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tom1807 said:
For Verizon phones, regardless whether contract free or not, it is impossible to unlock the bootloader.
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And how to flash android via PC or root it ? Impossible?
nick.arabadji said:
And how to flash android via PC or root it ? Impossible?
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Root impossible with locked bootloader.
Flashing? Here you go.
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tom1807 said:
Root impossible with locked bootloader.
Flashing? Here you go.
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I can't ... I try , but android flash tool need to unlock bootloader...
nick.arabadji said:
Hi there, I want to root my pixel , but I can't. (Screenshot) I buy phone with Verizon contract , but now it's contract free. If someone can help me. (I'm from Ukraine,we don't have Verizon)
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You're screwed. Verizon will NEVER unlock the bootloader, and you can't either. This means you CANNOT flash factory images. You CANNOT root the device. You CAN manually flash OTA images through the device recovery with fastboot, however as the device is still supported for the next four years, that ability is nearly pointless.
You should have purchased a Japanese Pixel 6. If I recall correctly, it's the same hardware as the Verizon Pixel 6 but with an unlockable bootloader. Now it's too late for that, so simply enjoy what you have because honestly you're not missing much.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You're screwed. Verizon will NEVER unlock the bootloader, and you can't either. This means you CANNOT flash factory images. You CANNOT root the device. You CAN manually flash OTA images through the device recovery with fastboot, however as the device is still supported for the next four years, that ability is nearly pointless.
You should have purchased a Japanese Pixel 6. If I recall correctly, it's the same hardware as the Verizon Pixel 6 but with an unlockable bootloader. Now it's too late for that, so simply enjoy what you have because honestly you're not missing much.
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Thanks for reply ! I just need to reflash for delete some bugs ..
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Thanks for reply ! I just need to reflash for delete some bugs ..
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Perform a factory reset instead. Since you cannot flash things that's the way you eliminate bugs on your device.

General SM-S906U1 doesn't have fastboot

So i got the S22+ from Spectrum and i have been looking into rooting it but there is no oem unlock, so i tried to go into fastbood with adb but all it does is reboot the device it does not even go to fastboot therefore this model is impossible to root right?
You need unlocked bootloader to root, bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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You need unlocked bootloader to root, bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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So therefore i gotta buy another model to unlock the bootloader?
Snapdragon U and U1 are locked bootloader no oem unlock, can't be unlocked or rooted. If you are in United States depending on which carrier you have,you need to be careful buying International devices. I'm on At&t and they only support certain variations of devices now. Trust me I found out the hard way. If it's not on their supported devices they will disable your Sim card for unauthorized device. And trying to have them whitelist the imei does nothing

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