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I decided to make this app out of necessity as I (as I'm sure some of you do as well) work a job where my hours vary from pay to pay. I created this program to estimate how much my paycheck is going to be. Once your information is entered all you will need to do is enter in the amount of hours and it will give you a break down of everything that should be on your paycheck.
This app is in it early beta stages and it will have some bugs which I'll note below. I figured I'd release this to you guys to see how many people are interested and see if I should continue development and also get some feedback from you guys.
Instructions:
Install the cab file.
Run Winpayday.
Menu >> Settings
Enter in your data:
Pay period- How often your paid
Pay Rate- The amount per hour
Overtime rate- How much your paid for overtime(ex 1.5 = Time and a half)
Enter your taxes withheld Percentages. A good way to get these are to take a recent paycheck and divide the amount taken out for each by the Gross Pay. Then obviously move the decimal two places to the right. I understand these numbers will change from week to week depending on how much you make, tax rates, etc. but this will get us as close to the actual amount for next weeks paycheck. I leave mine based on a 40 hour work week and its never off more than a dollar each way.
Mark if your benefits are taken out before taxes (Most are).
Mark if you have Medical, Dental, or any other amount taken out. Then enter in the amount taken out per pay.
After this is all set up there should be no reason to have to come back into the settings screen (Unless we get a raise which would be nice). Everything is saved in settings.xml in the application folder under Program Files where ever it was installed. You can copy this to your SD card to make a backup in case you need to reinstall/reflash.
I know it doesn't look pretty but I needed something that was functional and easy on the eyes and I see no reason to skin this app but if there is an interest I'll take suggestions.
Again this is my first released app so please if you have any problems list them here and I'll try to address them as fast as I can. Any other comments/questions/suggestions please feel free to post, Thanks guys.
Disclaimer- The Default Values that come preloaded in the application do not represent anyones actual salary, including my own, nor do they represent what I think you should be making, so back off, lol. This application does not connect to the Internet in anyway and all the personal financial data you enter stays in the settings.xml file and is not shared with anyone, including myself.
Too early for feedback but I will say this at a glance looks very handy for myself...
For this being in beta stages it seems pretty darn good...
Thx for sharing
Will report any mishaps
This seems to be a very good application, will post feedback asap.
I'll also write an article about it.
EC
Thank
Thanks guys, hope you enjoy it. I'm working on a debug application and error catching for the main app right now and will update it when I can. Thanks for the article as well!
That's pretty cool. Will save me a lot of pen and paper when i'm figuring up bills for the week.
edit: Just compared it today with my actual paycheck, extremely accurate. Would be nice to figure in 401k as a percentage instead of a dollar amount.
Skinning
Working on adding some skinning and new control type functionality, stay tuned!
Don t forget to post up your experiences or any issues you guys have!
it worked ok but wouldn't work when monthly is selected in settings
Thanks for the feedback guys
Thanks for the feedback guys. Ill work on adding a 401k percentage and making the other deduction either flat or a percentage. as for the monthly Ill have to look into that as I dont remember if I tested it, my apologies on that one should have a new release with the fixes soon. Glad to hear it was very accurate for you. Ill update the posting soon. thanks guys!
Compiling an updated version right now. Please keep an eye on the Opening post. Thanks for all the feedback guys!
thanks...i need it a program like this..is there any updates..i saw u just released one for android
Unfortunatly the developer I gave this project to quit and took my source code with him. As of now I dont have a windows mobile phone to test with and I'll have to rewrite the app from the ground up. If I get the new one for android stable I'll be sure to reserect the original version for your guys. My apologies. I'm looking through file backups tonight to try to hopefully find the source code. Thanks for all the support.
Do you remember what you did in Las Vegas? Probably not, but Friday does. Happen to recall where you were when you took the picture of your friend laughing so hard that they blew Diet Coke out of their nose? Friday does.
Friday is an application that runs on your Android device. It runs in the background, keeping stock of everything that happens on your phone. You can think of it as a personal journal of your daily events, but we like to see it as analytics for your life.
Friday has access to a load of information, as such the permissions screen can seem a bit daunting, but you have to realize that what you’re asking it to do is essentially keep track of every single thing on your phone. Once you give it permission, it will take a few minutes to dig through your history and then provide you with a dashboard insight of everything from emails to photos and even meetings that you’ve had.
What’s interesting is that not only does it provide you an in-depth view of your life, it also links directly to the applications on your phone. So if you want to pull up the location information, you’ll see pins stuck into a Google Maps representation that will show you exactly what happened and where. Took a photo? That will be tagged, too.
Essentially, Friday gives you the ability to “forget to remember”. As tied as we all are to our mobile phones, it’s a very interesting way to keep your memories handy. Looking back, even over the short amount of time that I’ve had my present phone, Friday has pulled in a wealth of information and I’ve already used it to look up things that I would have otherwise forgotten.
http://signup.fridayed.com/pp9ho
Hey guys, I have been on xda for quite some time now and I have seen many such threads on battery life optimization configs. But I am always at loss when I need to refer to such threads in a summary fashion.
So I came up with this Google Docs form.
After couple of entries, the form will help draw a better picture of what configs are turning out better in general as it generates all sorts of awesome pie charts based on your entries.
Let me know if you want any entry in the form to be added, or any other kind of suggestion. You can do that here, or in the last field of that form.
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(1) F O R M <- Enter your data here
(2) Analytics Page <- Check out cool pie charts that sums up everybody's data
(3) Spreadsheet View <- Pure info, useful if you want to see what people entered in "Other" fields in the form; the Analytics page won't go into that much detail
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Data as of 02/26/2012 1pm EST
Updates, few notes, and more
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02/26/2012
- Added 2 non-mandatory fields. Fill them if you know their values: Approx time spent using your phone as a phone? and Approx time spent using your phone *actively* with screen off?
02/23/2012
- Set default form fields to useful values. Earlier all unfilled fields defaulted to "Other" which skewed the charts on Analytics page. Now that's solved
- Added custom fields in power saving apps (JKay Mod, GreenPower)
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(1) I will maintain the spreadsheet regularly so that it has only relevant info. I see that some users enter just junk data to check out how the data entry in the form works. That's cool. But I will remove such entries.
(2) Even if you have already made an entry in this form, you can of course do it again. In case you want your old entry to be removed, just let me know by replying in this thread and I will remove it. Otherwise it doesn't hurt keeping the old entry in the spreadsheet. People can probably learn by diff'ing between the two (or more) entries and see what factors helped improve battery life. (Such differential analysis will be very difficult in 'other' battery life/screen capture threads.
(3) I will try to keep on adding more stuff to the form. So feel free to make a new entry now and then (probably every 2 weeks or once a month) even if you have done it earlier. You can request (as I said above) removal of your older entry. You can mention the row number of the entry (from the spreadsheet view) you want me to remove.
(4) The survey will help in fairer comparison if entries are made when your battery is closer to dying than not. Example: Enter your data when you have <20% battery life.
PS: Thanks Red for making this post the second post in this thread, I can now make a good use of it.
This is very useful, id recommend it
This is insanely organized. Amazing work from the OP.
Just added my info, this is great! Love all the info it provides! Adding to my list of subscribed threads.
why wouldn't there be a section that asks what apps people run? There are plenty of other apps that do background syncing and need to run more often than others. I would say that's a pretty important factor that this doesn't touch on. Truth is, everyone's going to be different. Everyone uses their phone differently, running different apps. People who can't put their phones down are undoubtedly going to have worse battery life. Some people have great battery life on one rom, while some on the same rom have horrible battery life. The user themself is the most important factor on battery life.
PuffinNugz said:
why wouldn't there be a section that asks what apps people run? There are plenty of other apps that do background syncing and need to run more often than others. I would say that's a pretty important factor that this doesn't touch on.
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I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
PuffinNugz said:
Truth is, everyone's going to be different. Everyone uses their phone differently, running different apps. People who can't put their phones down are undoubtedly going to have worse battery life. Some people have great battery life on one rom, while some on the same rom have horrible battery life. The user themself is the most important factor on battery life.
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I agree with you. The result of this analysis is that people would be guided to try something new to improve their battery life (which they would have never heard of before). Taking my personal case, I actually crossed 1day mark without charging my phone for the very first time after I installed GreenPower. I did everything that GreenPower does using extensive Llama events but that wasn't that battery efficient. These statistics DO NOT guarantee in any way you will be able to achieve the same results, but at the least you can try.
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I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
I agree with you. The result of this analysis is that people would be guided to try something new to improve their battery life (which they would have never heard of before). Taking my personal case, I actually crossed 1day mark without charging my phone for the very first time after I installed GreenPower. I did everything that GreenPower does using extensive Llama events but that wasn't that battery efficient. These statistics DO NOT guarantee in any way you will be able to achieve the same results, but at the least you can try.
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Right on, man. I got you. Not trying cause trouble or anything. I get damn good battery life and I'm a moderate to heavy user. I have a charger in my office at work, and I also put it on the charger at home every night when I go to bed. Oh, and I got a car charger. A little overkill, but I never have to worry about battery life.
edit: i may fill it out a little later when I have more time. Not cause I need it, but to help you gather info.
jazzboyrules said:
I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
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Agreed, and apps are incredibly too variable to include.
Thread cleaned up and my data is entered.
Good job on the nice collaboration of data.
Thanks Red! And thanks to everyone for supporting this effort
I take back what I said about this, this is far more than a battery life thread, nice work I'll enter my stuff later
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Nick281051 said:
I take back what I said about this, this is far more than a battery life thread, nice work I'll enter my stuff later
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I know this is just a forum, but it takes guts to stay stuff like that. I respect that.
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treyvaporizer said:
I know this is just a forum, but it takes guts to stay stuff like that. I respect that.
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I agree. But sometimes people need to look at things and check it out before commenting. Not pointing fingers..just in general
Thanks Nick!
+1 to what treyvaporizer said, and
@jasvncnt1 It happens, we are all family now
I am glad that more people are helping me out build that spreadsheet.
jazzboyrules said:
Thanks Nick!
+1 to what treyvaporizer said, and
@jasvncnt1 It happens, we are all family now
I am glad that more people are helping me out build that spreadsheet.
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LOL of course. Like I said wasn't pointing fingers. Its all good. We are all here for the same reason.
I dont want to start a new thread, so I rather just ask in here since it's along the same lines. With the config in my sig, so far I'm at 9hrs on battery, with 1.5 hrs screen on time and I'm sitting at 60%. I've done some undervolting, I believe I ended up at -75mV at each step. Would you consider this good battery life? I don't have a problem with it, though if I could get more, I certainly wouldn't mind.
PS, not trying to steal the thread, just want some opinions!
Battery life aholics unite...xD
K Rich said:
I dont want to start a new thread, so I rather just ask in here since it's along the same lines. With the config in my sig, so far I'm at 9hrs on battery, with 1.5 hrs screen on time and I'm sitting at 60%. I've done some undervolting, I believe I ended up at -75mV at each step. Would you consider this good battery life? I don't have a problem with it, though if I could get more, I certainly wouldn't mind.
PS, not trying to steal the thread, just want some opinions!
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I think that the battery life is good but it can get better. You need to check how much the battery drains overnight if you don't keep it plugged in. Also, use the phone normally till the battery life is in single digits and then compare with what people using different configs get (in that spreadsheet). That should give you a general idea of whether or not you can get more time without charge.
Again, the battery life is dependent on a lot of parameters not covered in that spreadsheet, but whatever is covered should help you at least improve on what you have right now.
Well, I flashed the stock CM7 kernel last night, and without any under volting, its not as good, but close to what I was getting with under volting and Siyah .12 so tomorrow I'm gonna under volt the stock CM7 kernel and see what I can get. Plus, using the touch recovery is pretty fun!
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(Survey Closed - Results Below)ASUS Prime Online Objective Survey & Results Review
Ok fellas,
I have constructed an online survey questionnaire as I have previously suggested here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707406&page=31
This way issues can be objectively collected and centralised – and if follow up is needed by ASUS. This online survey only serves to kickstart “things” in a more directional fashion, rather than the usual scattered complaints which are difficult to follow and sometime lead to a lot of duplications.
Hopefully we can get as many people to do this and we can get the general idea what is going on with our prime.
Also, if the data is useful enough, maybe we can get some of the guys in here who are close to asus to send them the data and hopefully they will do something about it. Or following the data collection, perhaps a second detailed survey can be collected to home in into issues that matter most to the end-users.
The link for the survey is here - And you can see the cumulative results at the end of the survey
https://kwiksurveys.com?s=MLKOKM_b334b37b
Note:
(1) At the end of the survey, the cumulative results are shown(hence instant result – no secret statistics to hide). And individual result is there for everyone to see and follow.
(2) Questions marked “*” are compulsory
(3) Please answer non-compulsory questions if possible so better picture can be drawn in the end
(4) If your cookie is enabled, you can change your answer after completing the questionnaire but only one survey is considered valid per ip address
(5) If you have suggestions on what other questions there are to add or details to add, pm me and I will change it. Or if you note any gross logical error in the construction of the questions, pm me.
Disclosure of interest:
I don't know anyone from ASUS. I neither work for ASUS nor have worked for ASUS and I don't work for rival companies. I am doing this as part of (or lack of) my contribution to this forum.
Update (20/06) - Survey is now closed See results review at post #23 #24 #25 #26 #27
all.pdf - all results to date (164 responses)
anyappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with ANY apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 1)
specificappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with SPECIFIC apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 2)
The results can be filtered against multiple criteria. If you have a request, tell me and I will do it at my earliest opportunity. Raw data can also be exported into xml/xls/csv format.
I filled out the survey. I want to give you a huge THANKS for doing this. And Asus should give you a free Infinity lol
Yuhfhrh said:
I filled out the survey. I want to give you a huge THANKS for doing this. And Asus should give you a free Infinity lol
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No worry dude. Used to think that linux has mind of its own. But this thing is in a different league, seems like a living organism/psychopathic ex-gf to me. I am baffled.
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No worry dude. Used to think that linux has mind of its own. But this thing is in a different league, seems like a living organism/psychopathic ex-gf to me. I am baffled.
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That pretty much hits the nail on the head. This tablet is very temperamental. You never know how of is going to act when you boot it up.
cause to ponder
I have been in IT for 30 years now, and have used just about every device ever made or at least one representative sample. The only people I ever see complaining about devices are generally people who don't read up on them, load way too many conflicting apps into them, or try to do way too much, and complain because everything doesn't work - what I call "Swiss army knife syndrome". Most of the above can be attributed to pure inexperience. Of course statistically 5-10% of the people doing anything on the planet just aren't pleased with anything, so you have to take that number right off the top - they will never know how obstinate they are so don't bother. I have had very few problems with this device, and I do not consider myself lucky - just experienced. Great survey. I really hope it helps!
Some preliminary results
So far there 72 responses over the last almost 24hours – Which I think isn't bad.
(1) I have pasted the “compact” "raw" data in pdf form in the OP / post #1– And I will try to do this for every 50-response-increment. There are two files:
i. all the results
ii.the results filtered against those who have problems with ANR's/FC's with ANY apps at ANY duration (just to give you the idea and sample what the tabulated data look like) – Question #22 in the survey.
(Edit 1): I'd forgotten to click "expand" for the "text based input results" - In case you're wondering why they appear truncated.
(2) The result can be filtered – e.g. information "just from rooted users" or information "just from users who have x problem(s)" – If you want to view any data filtered with certain criteria, tell me and I will try to do it when I am free and post it here for everyone to follow up. Unfortunately the particular website I am using doesn't allow me to filter against serial number right now as it requires 4 alphanumerics in the filter field – However, the expanded raw data can be exported into csv/xml/xls format for anyone who is interested.
More inputs please.
@photogf4
Maybe you should beginning read some of the many treads about Primes problems and issues before you make a statement like yours. There is a VERY GOOD REASON why no one else still had a quad core tablet out for sale (including Asus themself !) Asus olso accept that they have problems with Prime .
Please notice; XDA people that have problems with Prime are NOT Android novices. I promise you, that they all have trying much, much more then normal customers will and can do to to find a solution on Primes very stranges behavior.
Wow, sorry... I didn't expect a guilty conscience so soon! I assure you i read xda nearly daily, and it is a fabulous reference with serious people serious about making these devices the best they can be. I am not trolling, just making an observation. I maintain that he 80% of people left need to ask themselves if they are causing their own problems before they skew the survey. Thanks to xda i have a cell that i can manage my entire company network with, and two tablets -101 and 201 that run flawlessly ( I gave my Apple tablet to someone else). Any problem I have ever had was my own fault, other than gps. I bought a few 201's for my staff, and they don't have problems either!! Don't blame the hardware until you look at the software.
An additional observation is that if no one on xda used the developers' product and discussed it here, this would be moot. Thu site needs users as well, and i appreciate the privilege.
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I have been in IT for 30 years now, and have used just about every device ever made or at least one representative sample. The only people I ever see complaining about devices are generally people who don't read up on them, load way too many conflicting apps into them, or try to do way too much, and complain because everything doesn't work - what I call "Swiss army knife syndrome". Most of the above can be attributed to pure inexperience. Of course statistically 5-10% of the people doing anything on the planet just aren't pleased with anything, so you have to take that number right off the top - they will never know how obstinate they are so don't bother. I have had very few problems with this device, and I do not consider myself lucky - just experienced. Great survey. I really hope it helps!
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So what your saying is Asus is sending out updates, gps dongles and rma's just for fun? 30 years in IT ....you might want to look into taking some refresher courses or perhaps a a new line of work.
Enough with the personal attacks... try and stay on topic!
The last four posts have gone waaayyy of topic. Please stay on topic which in this case is a user survey regarding problems people are having with the Prime, and please keep all comments constructive.
Thanks.
Good idea!
Just filled the survey! Thank you for your time!
I have a problem that I haven't solved yet, and I hope this survey helps in any way!
Thank you again!
PS: BTW, here's my problem explained http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716591
Sorry about the post.
I did not mean to go off topic, but for anyone to come and deny that the Prime has no problems is just unrepresentative of the community as a whole. I do realize that some problems are user induced but most of these are well documented across many different user bases! If this were not so, we would not see ASUS patching and working with consumers on this somewhat personal level.
I have to believe with the data at hand that the problems lie in the manufacturing of the device or materials used. It looks like someone's quality assurance department fell asleep on the job, and now many people suffer from problems, and maybe even ASUS because one manufacturer let some bad material pass that should of been tested more thoroughly.
But hopefully, the data collected from this survey is pointing to some common things that many users are experiencing, which will be able to be addressed with new firmware and software. Thanks for creating the survey and I wish I could take it again because I did not know you had to save each page as you went along and only saved the last page, which did not let me see the current tally. Peace, V
@vvveith
I had a look at the survey again and how it works - You don't have to save each page as you go along - They are automatically saved - In the end, it should show you the cumulative results. But again there may be quirks that I am not aware of.
However, if you want to do it again and put some comments in - Just go to the same link and do it again - but from what I understood from the website that provide the service, each ip is logged to prevent multiple entries, so
(1) if you do it again (with your cookie previously enable and still available), then your result based on your ip will be changed accordingly (I have enabled this in the survey setting)
but
(2) if you do it again (with your cookie previously disabled or cookie is not available), then your survey input will just be rejected
(3) the other workaround is for you to hook onto your neighbour's free wifi or work's ip
(General) in any case, I will be updating the full unfiltered results soon. If you have a specific request, i.e. to have the results filtered against specific criteria, just make it known here and I will try do it.
Update 19/06
I've updated the survey results (see OP/post #1):
all.pdf - all results to date (127 responses)
anyappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with ANY apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 1)
specificappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with SPECIFIC apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 2)
A thought:
(1) A quick glance at these results shows some recurring themes in terms of the good, bad and ugly.
(2) This “to date/.28” survey not only shows magnitude of certain issues (evidenced by answers to compulsory questions on certain well known issues) but also shows some improvements in certain other areas (again evidenced by answers to compulsory questions and the free-text based inputs). However a quick glance also show some not-so-new minor issues which are still persistent (the list of these problems mostly in the free-text based inputs)
(3) If I understood some of the other posts in other threads correctly, the beta testers are testing .28.5 – This “to date/.28” survey will be a good baseline shall we all want to run a second survey.
(4) If a second survey is run (after .28.5 or newer that is), we can home in into bigger issues found in this survey with more details – and see where improvements/deteriorations occur in a more objective fashion. And at the same time assess the magnitude of minor issues listed in this survey by formalizing them into multiple choices.
Essentially, next categorization (based on usability with assumption “what lay people would possibly find frustrating” rather than pure technical aspect it) would be:
High frequency non-severe issue (e.g. gps, wifi intermittent dropping)
High frequency severe issue (e.g. severe wifi drops with distance, ANR's and FC's)
Low frequency non-severe issue (e.g. small number of specific apps with ANR's/FC's)
Low frequency severe issue (e.g sleep of death and failed update - ?semi brick)
Mystical issue
Have a look at the results.
maxfac1234 said:
I've updated the survey results (see OP/post #1):
all.pdf - all results to date (127 responses)
anyappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with ANY apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 1)
specificappfcanr.pdf - filtered against ANR's/FC's with SPECIFIC apps at ANY duration (just a sample idea 2)
A thought:
(1) A quick glance at these results shows some recurring themes in terms of the good, bad and ugly.
(2) This “to date/.28” survey not only shows magnitude of certain issues (evidenced by answers to compulsory questions on certain well known issues) but also shows some improvements in certain other areas (again evidenced by answers to compulsory questions and the free-text based inputs). However a quick glance also show some not-so-new minor issues which are still persistent (the list of these problems mostly in the free-text based inputs)
(3) If I understood some of the other posts in other threads correctly, the beta testers are testing .29 – This “to date/.28” survey will be a good baseline shall we all want to run a second survey.
(4) If a second survey is run (after .29 that is), we can home in into bigger issues found in this survey with more details – and see where improvements/deteriorations occur in a more objective fashion. And at the same time assess the magnitude of minor issues listed in this survey by formalizing them into multiple choices.
Have a look at the results.
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actually the new build I'm testing is .28.5 they could end up sending me an even newer one though.
demandarin said:
actually the new build I'm testing is .28.5 they could end up sending me an even newer one though.
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woot woot *corrected. Thanks fella. Looking forward to the new build soon!
demandarin said:
actually the new build I'm testing is .28.5 they could end up sending me an even newer one though.
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And how's it looking so far?
Did the survey. Thanks for putting this together.
However, few suggestions:
- add SKU to the base questions
- add dock / no dock to the questions
- add no issue as a separate answer
- add common answers given as text as separate answer
... Just some ideas. Also, could you compile a comparison between root and stock?
Thank you.
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tobi01001 said:
Did the survey. Thanks for putting this together.
However, few suggestions:
- add SKU to the base questions
- add dock / no dock to the questions
- add no issue as a separate answer
- add common answers given as text as separate answer
... Just some ideas. Also, could you compile a comparison between root and stock?
Thank you.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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Good ideas - all.
Also: SOD? I did not see it in the survey, and I am hit with it, lately VERY infrequently, but yes, I have had an SOD event (just a single occurrence) on .28
Though I wonder how to effectively track text based answers, they can provide additional dat that would otherwise not be picked up. I think this is an idea who's time has really arrived. Too many unscientific and off the cuff observations around these forums. Thank you very much for this. A good set of data, even with some margin of error is extremely valuable as a tool for some honest measurements in the field. I would venture to say that the respondents here are somewhat more "polarized" (to put it mildly) and that the BASIC group of non-techie Prime owners are, in many case not even AWARE that their tablet has issues, unless they are painful, or incapacitating is some noticeable way.
What has always been my biggest annoyance with the Prime is it's obvious lack of a major performance advantage over the OG Transformer, which I sold to buy this. Yes, it is slim, and pretty, and had all the ingredients for a technical slam-dunk. It has just never "wowed" me like I expected.
anyway, I got off subject there, or rather too detailed for this particular thread. I liked that the guy with the sensors issue simply linked to his thread, instead of going off all over the place like... er... well, like me, I guess. Sorry bout that. One thing you can NOT accuse Prime owners of is not being passionate about their tablets.
Thanks again for doing this. Perhaps a quick update after the ew firmware would be good as was suggested.
Hello friends
I made this article because I wanted to share my experience in buying a Xiaomi phone. In my case I bought 2 devices over the past two months. The first is a Xiaomi Mi5, which I ordered for my sister and the second one is the Mi5s, which I ordered for myself.
First, I’d like to talk about my choice of an online retailer. There are a couple of things to consider here.
1. Most importantly you want to be confident that the device will come with the original MIUI software. There are many online retailers that would sell you a device with a Global version of the software, only for you to find that it is actually some kind of a fake custom ROM. You want to avoid that, as flashing the original version of the software, although relatively easy, might be a lengthy and frustrating process for many. After all you'd like to begin using your device from day one, not spend time figuring how to fix it.
2. Secondly, the price. Naturally you'd like to find the best deal possible. You should be aware of the fact that there are many retailers that do fake promotions. They would for instance write down a higher price on the product and allegedly discount it to its original price. You don’t want to fall for such cheap tricks. The best thing you could do is either observe the price of the product every now and then, or compare over a couple of retailers.
3. Delivery. Ordering a device from China sometimes means waiting for more than a month for it to arrive. This depends to a big extend on the shipping agents that the retailer uses.
After doing about a month of research I decided to make my purchase from Fastcardtech.com Why? The driving factors were as follows: I was told that they ship devices only with the original software. The second is that they offered the best price at the time of the purchase. Thirdly, I considered the services they offered. As you can read on their website they have extensively explained their policy when it comes down to the payment, shipment and after sales services (warranty). They also offer secure payment through PayPal, transport insurance and customs insurance. Transport insurance means that they would ship another phone in case the first is lost during transportation. Customs insurance costs 7% of the total order price, but means that you would get compensated if your device ends up in the customs office.
Regarding, the shipping time, I can confirm that the Mi5 arrived for 2 weeks and the Mi5s for 3 weeks. The shipping agents in both cases ware SF post and Netherlands post. Upon booting them up for the first time I was pleased to find out both devices were running the original Global stable and Chinese stable software respectively.
When it comes down to the price at the time of the purchase the Mi5 costed just under $240 and the Mi5s $297. I bought both of them in December. I paid a small fee of around $7 for processing the transaction since I used PayPal. I’d recommend that you use Paypal too, as it is a secure method of purchasing. I also paid $3 for a transport insurance. Both are included in the above stated prices. The insurance is a valuable service offered by Fastcardtech.
Regarding the packaging, unfortunately I have thrown it away but the phones came carefully packaged in a thick layer of bubble wrap. You have the option of choosing different sorts of packaging on the checkout page One aspect about Fastcardtech I'd like to criticize is that they marked both items as commercial. The value they stated was 20usd. You should explicitly tell then to mark them as gifts, otherwise you might have to visit the customs
Now I would like to tell you what it is to use a Xiaomi device. First of all, upon booting it up for the first time I was charmed by the esthetics of the software. In my view it looks better than stock android. Furthermore, I highly value the added functionality. Out of the box the phones have applications like a compass, a file explorer, and a QR scanner. A great addition is the inclusion of WPS office. In fact, I like it so much that I wrote this article on my phone. Really a great office suite optimized to work fantastically on a phone. The security app is also a great convenience tool since it is the one place to go to optimize the work of your phone. It can analyze battery usage, clear unnecessary files from the system and in general makes sure that the phone runs smoothly. You might be wondering what it is to use the phone with a Chinese software and what the differences are with the Mi5, which runs on the Global version. Fortunately, I can make a direct comparison.
All in all, there aren't any big differences between both versions, at least when it comes down to general layout. My Mi5s came with the Google apps preinstalled, however if you do not wish for anyone to open the phone there is a great application by Xiaomi that you can download to install the essential Google services framework and the play store. You can find it on the following link: http://en.miui.com/thread-405166-1-1.html What might concern some of you is the presence of Chinese apps. Some of them are quite useful do be honest. An instance is the fantastic Reader application, which is way better than any other I have seen. The only problem is that it isn't translated in English. Some of the Chinese apps push notifications but it's very easy to mute them. I have just put them in folders and have forgotten about them. As you can expect the Google apps work well. There is this small bug that there isn’t an icon for the Google app. Consequently, I have to use the widget instead. The Mi5, which runs the global version on the other hand has no bloatware has and all the essential Google apps preinstalled. The main difference between both devices however lies in optimization. The global version is optimized to work with the Google apps and other applications like Facebook and messenger. This doesn't mean it launches them faster or runs them smoother. It is just far better at "managing them". By this I mean keeping them in the background more effectively and pushing notifications more consistently. If you want that on the Chinease version, you have to tweak the Autostart options and the hide options in the settings menu so that your favorites apps are managed better. Still, this might come at the expense of battery life. Otherwise as you would expect all native apps are perfectly optimized - notes, calendar etc. Just link them to your Google account and have no worries about missing your reminder.
When it comes down to general system performance both phones are blazing fast and keep apps in memory very well. No issues here at all. Once again I would like to mention the utilities that the security apps provided. I can be set to clear the cache of the phone regularly, remove trash after it reaches certain size, reboot the phone aromatically every now and then. As you might have guessed these are important functions that do not come out of the box in stock android but are essential for keeping the system running smoothly. Speaking of MIUI features, the 8,2 update has brought cool feature like automated tasks and smart assistant which will bring even more functionality and automation to then phone. I have the update available, however haven't taken advantage of it yet, because I wanted to finish my review as it is.
Having mentioned that there isn't much more to tell about these devices. There are 2 issues Mi5s users are regularly complaining about. Battery life and fingerprint. Perhaps the update will fix them. My observation on the topic is that battery life is generally very good. There is some kind of a bug however that's drains the battery but that happens rarely. Still it isn’t very plesant to see it, but a restart fixes everything. The fingerprint is a bit tricky too. Personally, I think it is one of the best available, but needs a lot of optimization. I have seen it rarely unlock the phone after a bear tap on the button, which was intended to just wake the screen. Still more often, you’d have to put your finger in the exact way you registered it so that it is recognized. Which is sometimes inconvenient
Such an informative post in this thread.
Really appreciate.
rhrokib said:
Such an informative post in this thread.
Really appreciate.
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Thank you! I am happy you found my post informative! If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer!
Ifo0 said:
Thank you! I am happy you found my post informative! If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer!
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Actually I don't find any question now. If I just found one then I'd do.
Thanks for asking.