Issue #2: crazy battery behaviours - Moto Z Questions & Answers

After only 10 months of "honorated" work, the battery of my Moto Z has already reduced it''s capacity from about 2700 mAh to less then 2000 mAh (both measured with Accubattery) and this is clearly showed in (a lot) reduced screen on time and total charge endurance. Ok.
BUT now it is showing a weird behaviour that I don't undestand....
If it is at a battery level under 30% or similar and I reboot it, it doesn't start anymore, showing the "too low battery" logo just after shutdown, even if without rebooting it would have worked for one or two more hours...
If I connect it to a charger it shows charging from the same % it has before trying to reboot it and I'm able to boot it. After booting, if I disconnect charger it will continue to work even until 2-3% of batterywith no issues... BUT if I try to restart it... no way again.
Any others with this behaviour? Any idea on how to fix this? Any idea on how to make boot more "tolerant" to low % of battery?

Awesome!, Exactly same here
and after a while my 30% went to 40% then 60% now it's on 100%
my phone can only be turned on for 24 secounds
i want to order new battery :|
battery mod is helping me to keep my device on.

Great!

Same here ?

You guys do know that it isn't hard to replace the battery, right? And not to mention that a new one costs under 30$(if you manage to find a good choice).

same here, right after 9 months.
Another issue I'm experiencing is whenever I reboot my moto, it drains 30% of the battery, it doesn't matter if it is fully charged.

Same boat as you guys... Bit disappointed but I'll be replacing the battery soon.
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Same boat as you guys... Bit disappointed but I'll be replacing the battery soon.View attachment 4288380
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More consistency at a certain percentage I guess.
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one more thing i noticed today
i've been using my phone with battery mod for a while
and
now battery mod is started to die at 25%
:\\\\
i've unlocked bootloader in first day i bought this phone and flashed my kernel
now what problem could be?
my questions to everyone is reading this post :
verizon guys doesn't have this issue?
anyone here have this issue with locked OEM bootloader (never unlocked)
theories :
personally i've always used high CPU freq, not moto lite (1.8), maybe this is reason moto limited cpu freq
on stock rom ramdisk we have this lines :
Code:
on property:sys.boot_completed=1 && property:ro.boot.secure_hardware=0
start batt_health
batt_health is an executable binary which i'm not sure what is doing but it must be related to battery health and intresting part of this is "ro.boot.secure_hardware=0"
it means this batt_health won't launch on unlocked bootloaders !!!
(Alberto believes this is debugging tool but i'm not sure : https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/182562/ )
moto doesn't care about battery health of unlocked bootloader users?
i noticed my dying mostly was on wifi or high gps usage
we're using custom wifi drivers on kernels so might be a reason, maybe !? wasn't issue on old moto devices

Had the same issue, just did an RMA with them. We'll see how that goes.

The Marionette said:
You guys do know that it isn't hard to replace the battery, right? And not to mention that a new one costs under 30$(if you manage to find a good choice).
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Really? I thought this was hard to open/repair...
Do you have any video about it to link?

erfanoabdi said:
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on stock rom ramdisk we have this lines :
Code:
on property:sys.boot_completed=1 && property:ro.boot.secure_hardware=0
start batt_health
batt_health is an executable binary which i'm not sure what is doing but it must be related to battery health and intresting part of this is "ro.boot.secure_hardware=0"
it means this batt_health won't launch on unlocked bootloaders !!!
(Alberto believes this is debugging tool but i'm not sure : https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/182562/ )
moto doesn't care about battery health of unlocked bootloader users?
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Great!
I have bootloader unlocked from day one and often used Incipio wireless battery in efficiency mode too... but never used overclock.
(It overheats easily on summer even without it...)
But less than a year to have a bad battery is really too early!!

erfanoabdi said:
one more thing i noticed today
i've been using my phone with battery mod for a while
and
now battery mod is started to die at 25%
:\\\\
i've unlocked bootloader in first day i bought this phone and flashed my kernel
now what problem could be?
my questions to everyone is reading this post :
verizon guys doesn't have this issue?
anyone here have this issue with locked OEM bootloader (never unlocked)
theories :
personally i've always used high CPU freq, not moto lite (1.8), maybe this is reason moto limited cpu freq
on stock rom ramdisk we have this lines :
Code:
on property:sys.boot_completed=1 && property:ro.boot.secure_hardware=0
start batt_health
batt_health is an executable binary which i'm not sure what is doing but it must be related to battery health and intresting part of this is "ro.boot.secure_hardware=0"
it means this batt_health won't launch on unlocked bootloaders !!!
(Alberto believes this is debugging tool but i'm not sure :
moto doesn't care about battery health of unlocked bootloader users?
i noticed my dying mostly was on wifi or high gps usage
we're using custom wifi drivers on kernels so might be a reason, maybe !? wasn't issue on old moto devices
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Dear Erfan
This issue happened to me right after unlocking my moto z
Before that everything was fine.
Do you suggest any solution ?

enetec said:
Really? I thought this was hard to open/repair...
Do you have any video about it to link?
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And

The Marionette said:
And
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Thank you very much... BUT... it seems not so easy to me (glued display... very easy to break it... )

enetec said:
Thank you very much... BUT... it seems not so easy to me (glued display... very easy to break it... )
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Well,I repaired unibody phones which could only be opened by taking the screen off. Imagine the joy when they use ridiculously strong glue.

erfanoabdi said:
one more thing i noticed today
i've been using my phone with battery mod for a while
and
now battery mod is started to die at 25%
:\\\\
i've unlocked bootloader in first day i bought this phone and flashed my kernel
now what problem could be?
my questions to everyone is reading this post :
verizon guys doesn't have this issue?
anyone here have this issue with locked OEM bootloader (never unlocked)
theories :
personally i've always used high CPU freq, not moto lite (1.8), maybe this is reason moto limited cpu freq
on stock rom ramdisk we have this lines :
Code:
on property:sys.boot_completed=1 && property:ro.boot.secure_hardware=0
start batt_health
batt_health is an executable binary which i'm not sure what is doing but it must be related to battery health and intresting part of this is "ro.boot.secure_hardware=0"
it means this batt_health won't launch on unlocked bootloaders !!!
(Alberto believes this is debugging tool but i'm not sure : )
moto doesn't care about battery health of unlocked bootloader users?
i noticed my dying mostly was on wifi or high gps usage
we're using custom wifi drivers on kernels so might be a reason, maybe !? wasn't issue on old moto devices
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Dear Erfan
I manage run batt_health with this command
# touch /data/power_supply_logger/enable_logging
# echo 1 > /data/power_supply_logger/enable_logging
# batt_health
But I cannot add it to init.d so that it runs whenever the phone reboot.
It seems that the battery health is ok and reporting to battery monitor accurately.
if you can find a way to add batt_health to startup, it would be perfect.
Regards

Poor1ya said:
Dear Erfan
I manage run batt_health with this command
# touch /data/power_supply_logger/enable_logging
# echo 1 > /data/power_supply_logger/enable_logging
# batt_health
But I cannot add it to init.d so that it runs whenever the phone reboot.
It seems that the battery health is ok and reporting to battery monitor accurately.
if you can find a way to add batt_health to startup, it would be perfect.
Regards
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yeah sure, flash this

erfanoabdi said:
yeah sure, flash this
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Thanks Erfan,
I will try it tomorrow.
Regards

I've had my phone repaired by the Norfolk repair centre in the UK for battery issues. It came back and i charged it to 100% then restarted it and it held only 68% charge. The only non-Google app i've added is Accubattery, which is suggesting it has less than 1000mah battery capacity. It's back on charge to see what happens next.

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[Q] Battery Drains, Kernels and Modems

Hey guys. I've read and learned a lot from XDA, but there are some things I can't really understand or test by myself. So, I'm experiencing some trouble right now, and I need your help.
So, I've been testing roms since I bought my GS2. Almost 2 years later, my battery lasts 4 hours. I used to think the problem was the battery, so I bought a brand new one (sammy brand).
Well, it also lasts 4 hours, with CM10.1
So, I tried installing DorimanX kernel. The battery lasts longer now (not much)
I also searched a lot about Modems, and I read somewhere that changing modems would make the battery last longer. But I can't really understand why. Can someone help me? I'm really lost, I can't put everything together and understand this thing.
Please, help me answer some questions.
tl;dr
1- What is the best Modem out there? Can I install it using CM10.1, or is the modem bind to a ROM?
2- Why the battery won't last longer as the Android upgrades? My brother's GS3 (stock JB) saves much more battery than mine GS2.
3- What is the rom that saves most battery out there? As CM improves, the battery drains faster. Should I go back to stock? Does stock ROMs cosume less battery?
Thanks in advance.
(sorry about my poor english)
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Hey guys. I've read and learned a lot from XDA, but there are some things I can't really understand or test by myself. So, I'm experiencing some trouble right now, and I need your help.
So, I've been testing roms since I bought my GS2. Almost 2 years later, my battery lasts 4 hours. I used to think the problem was the battery, so I bought a brand new one (sammy brand).
Well, it also lasts 4 hours, with CM10.1
So, I tried installing DorimanX kernel. The battery lasts longer now (not much)
I also searched a lot about Modems, and I read somewhere that changing modems would make the battery last longer. But I can't really understand why. Can someone help me? I'm really lost, I can't put everything together and understand this thing.
Please, help me answer some questions.
tl;dr
1- What is the best Modem out there? Can I install it using CM10.1, or is the modem bind to a ROM?
2- Why the battery won't last longer as the Android upgrades? My brother's GS3 (stock JB) saves much more battery than mine GS2.
3- What is the rom that saves most battery out there? As CM improves, the battery drains faster. Should I go back to stock? Does stock ROMs cosume less battery?
Thanks in advance.
(sorry about my poor english)
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1. as far as i know using specific modem depends on the region & network. changing modem sometimes solves your problem, sometimes not. you need to try which suites.
2. install cpu spy, better battery stats and gsam battery monitor. check whether your device is going to deep sleep or not. if not see which app/process is consuming too much battery. 1- try callibrating the battery and then monitor it. 2-if that does not fix, enable aeroplane mode, then power off, power on after couple of seconds and disable aeroplane mode. monitor the battery. 3-if that does not fix check the battery stats log and post it in BBS thread so that some expert may analyze the log and provide you with feedback. make sure for each solution you give ample of time to monitor in order to narrow down the problem.
3. you need to try different ROMs one by one and use it for some time to know which suites your better on your need.
read somthing about media scanner issue? 4 hours.....boy
vitorsubs said:
Hey guys. I've read and learned a lot from XDA, but there are some things I can't really understand or test by myself. So, I'm experiencing some trouble right now, and I need your help.
So, I've been testing roms since I bought my GS2. Almost 2 years later, my battery lasts 4 hours. I used to think the problem was the battery, so I bought a brand new one (sammy brand).
Well, it also lasts 4 hours, with CM10.1
So, I tried installing DorimanX kernel. The battery lasts longer now (not much)
I also searched a lot about Modems, and I read somewhere that changing modems would make the battery last longer. But I can't really understand why. Can someone help me? I'm really lost, I can't put everything together and understand this thing.
Please, help me answer some questions.
tl;dr
1- What is the best Modem out there? Can I install it using CM10.1, or is the modem bind to a ROM?
2- Why the battery won't last longer as the Android upgrades? My brother's GS3 (stock JB) saves much more battery than mine GS2.
3- What is the rom that saves most battery out there? As CM improves, the battery drains faster. Should I go back to stock? Does stock ROMs cosume less battery?
Thanks in advance.
(sorry about my poor english)
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1. Modems are location dependant, so try to find the stock modem or one for the carrier you're with.
2. Battery depends on a lot of things. The apps you use, screen time, wake locks, signal strength, size of the battery, os version, how recently you flashed something, how many email accounts are syncing, apps that sync.. The list could go on forever.
3. As stated above, cpu spy to see if your device is deep sleeping and better battery stats to check the wake locks. If you flashed something recently give it at least 3 battery cycles before judging the battery life. You can also try to underclock your device if you are rooted and have a rom-kernel combination that allows it
gastonw said:
read somthing about media scanner issue? 4 hours.....boy
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What does this have to do with this thread?
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Thanks for the response. I'll try everything you suggested
kilometers4 said:
What does this have to do with this thread?
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There is an issue on JB that enables the media scanner nonstop. It has been draining battery like crazy. In some cases it drains 2% per MINUTE.
In my situation, I think that it's not my problem.
I'll check all your tips and give a feedback later.
Thank you very much!
vitorsubs said:
Thanks for the response. I'll try everything you suggested
There is an issue on JB that enables the media scanner nonstop. It has been draining battery like crazy. In some cases it drains 2% per MINUTE.
In my situation, I think that it's not my problem.
I'll check all your tips and give a feedback later.
Thank you very much!
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There is an application called rescan media root on the play store. It can stop the media scanner from running
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cough
I've got the results of the apps running
App usage -> 72% (50% is Kernel)
Cpu -> 48% 200 MHz and 39% on Deep Sleep
Partial Wakelocks -> NetworkLocationLocator (45min), etc
Kernel Wakelocks -> vbus_present (7h), PowerManagerService (3h), Multipdp (1h25min), etc
So, what are your suggestions? Should I downgrade to stock rom with siyah kernel?
Nowadays, I'm focusing battery. I want it to last a full day with moderate use. Today I didn't use the phone (at all) and it last 12h, with 20% remaining.
vitorsubs said:
I've got the results of the apps running
App usage -> 72% (50% is Kernel)
Cpu -> 48% 200 MHz and 39% on Deep Sleep
Partial Wakelocks -> NetworkLocationLocator (45min), etc
Kernel Wakelocks -> vbus_present (7h), PowerManagerService (3h), Multipdp (1h25min), etc
So, what are your suggestions? Should I downgrade to stock rom with siyah kernel?
Nowadays, I'm focusing battery. I want it to last a full day with moderate use. Today I didn't use the phone (at all) and it last 12h, with 20% remaining.
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Sounds good to me.
You should check that network location, 45 min? man......
kilometers4 said:
You should check that network location, 45 min? man......
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Is it related to modem? I found with RIL app that my baseband and RIL doesnt match my location.
were you able to find a solution?
sciroccogt said:
were you able to find a solution?
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I've been experiencing the same problem with my SGS2's battery and noticed that it is getting bloated. I purchased a new one to prevent severe damage on my mobile phone.
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ielle227 said:
I've been experiencing the same problem with my SGS2's battery and noticed that it is getting bloated. I purchased a new one to prevent severe damage on my mobile phone.
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Why do you keep posting the same thing on different treads?
This is not the way to reach your 10 post limit
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No Deep Sleep?

Trying to figure out why my battery life is relatively crappy (usually averaging >8% drain/hour under typical use), even when I'm not using the device.
Anyone on Marshmallow (Android 6.0) able to experience the 'Deep Sleep' processor state? I cannot, and I'm trying to determine if there's a particular app (or more) that's causing wakelocks, or if this is just something I need to live with. Without root, it's nearly impossible to tell what's causing wakelocks directly.
If it is an app, I can try to find it, but I really don't want to uninstall and then selectively re-install hundreds of apps only to find out that the device doesn't sleep anyway (if rooted, I could freeze all user apps and then slowly unfreeze, but that's not an option without root).
To be clear, I'm NOT talking about the Doze feature that comes with Android 6.0. I'm talking about the Deep Sleep processor state that is below the low (384Mhz) processor state.
On all my other previous devices, I've achieved this state - granted, most of these were rooted, and I had custom ROMS and custom governors. This device seems to use the Interactive Governor. Maybe that governor doesn't sleep at all?
Anyway, if one or more of you confirm that you're achieving this state, then I'll burn some more time on it, otherwise....
thanks!
Capp5050 said:
Trying to figure out why my battery life is relatively crappy (usually averaging >8% drain/hour under typical use), even when I'm not using the device.
Anyone on Marshmallow (Android 6.0) able to experience the 'Deep Sleep' processor state? I cannot, and I'm trying to determine if there's a particular app (or more) that's causing wakelocks, or if this is just something I need to live with. Without root, it's nearly impossible to tell what's causing wakelocks directly.
If it is an app, I can try to find it, but I really don't want to uninstall and then selectively re-install hundreds of apps only to find out that the device doesn't sleep anyway (if rooted, I could freeze all user apps and then slowly unfreeze, but that's not an option without root).
To be clear, I'm NOT talking about the Doze feature that comes with Android 6.0. I'm talking about the Deep Sleep processor state that is below the low (384Mhz) processor state.
On all my other previous devices, I've achieved this state - granted, most of these were rooted, and I had custom ROMS and custom governors. This device seems to use the Interactive Governor. Maybe that governor doesn't sleep at all?
Anyway, if one or more of you confirm that you're achieving this state, then I'll burn some more time on it, otherwise....
thanks!
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I'm getting deep sleep. The battery drain could just be the phone itself. My battery life on the v10 is also pretty bad.
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I'm getting deep sleep. The battery drain could just be the phone itself. My battery life on the v10 is also pretty bad.
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Thank you. Here's mine. Notice zero deep sleep in many, many hours. I feel like this is something that has changed.
Confirming - you're on Android 6?
I guess I'll (reluctantly) do a factory reset and add my apps back. Thanks.
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Capp5050 said:
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Thank you. Here's mine. Notice zero deep sleep in many, many hours. I feel like this is something that has changed.
Confirming - you're on Android 6?
I guess I'll (reluctantly) do a factory reset and add my apps back. Thanks.
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Yes I am on Android 6.0 Marshmallow. I'm assuming your also on 6.0 also? Try check your wakelocks on your v10 and see if there is anything unusual.
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Lowhari said:
Yes I am on Android 6.0 Marshmallow. I'm assuming your also on 6.0 also? Try check your wakelocks on your v10 and see if there is anything unusual.
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Yes, Android 6. Unfortunately wake lock info is all but useless without root, unless the offender is really obvious.
I uninstalled almost 130 apps, and this far have reinstalled a little over half. The good news is that she's sleeping again. The bad news is that I'm still not sure which app was causing the issue.
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Capp5050 said:
Yes, Android 6. Unfortunately wake lock info is all but useless without root, unless the offender is really obvious.
I uninstalled almost 130 apps, and this far have reinstalled a little over half. The good news is that she's sleeping again. The bad news is that I'm still not sure which app was causing the issue.
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A factory reset helped me out after the update
Be thankful you aren't me right now. I just rooted and put xposed on my phone and my battery is draining from 100% to dead in about 2hours 45minutes...with no screen on time. Granted I'm using wifi tether but still that isn't good, nor normal. When I'm using the phone it's dying at an extreme rate; Like phones from 4 and 5 years ago would. Battery usage says android system is causing most of the drain. Something is seriously wrong ><
imucarmen said:
Be thankful you aren't me right now. I just rooted and put xposed on my phone and my battery is draining from 100% to dead in about 2hours 45minutes...with no screen on time. Granted I'm using wifi tether but still that isn't good, nor normal. When I'm using the phone it's dying at an extreme rate; Like phones from 4 and 5 years ago would. Battery usage says android system is causing most of the drain. Something is seriously wrong ><
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That's just wrong. Did you change out the ROM for a custom one, or just root? You might want to try a full wipe and start over if you haven't already.
Truthfully, a couple months ago I debated not taking the MM upgrade so that I could root 5.1.x. - ostensibly to give me more control over battery-related information and activities. I took the upgrade, and - now that my device is sleeping again - I'm kinda glad I did - Android's getting better at controlling rogue apps and with other battery saving methods (e.g., Doze mode). I guess what I'm saying is that if you can't fix your massive drain issue, you could always unroot and take the upgrade ...
Capp5050 said:
That's just wrong. Did you change out the ROM for a custom one, or just root? You might want to try a full wipe and start over if you haven't already.
Truthfully, a couple months ago I debated not taking the MM upgrade so that I could root 5.1.x. - ostensibly to give me more control over battery-related information and activities. I took the upgrade, and - now that my device is sleeping again - I'm kinda glad I did - Android's getting better at controlling rogue apps and with other battery saving methods (e.g., Doze mode). I guess what I'm saying is that if you can't fix your massive drain issue, you could always unroot and take the upgrade ...
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I got it sorted. Back to normal battery life.
I was actually on MM for a while but I had to get another phone because my old one started having some screen issues and the one they sent me had 5.1.1 on it so I decided to go ahead and not upgrade this time so I could root and have xposed. For now I'm sticking with 5.1.1 Now that I have everything setup I'm getting great battery life. I got over 4 hours of SOT time yesterday and today 6/6/2016 I got over 3 hours of SOT and 2 hours of tethering and about 10 hours overall before having to plug in.
Once I wiped after OTA my battery was WAY better.
I'm having a serious battery drain problem that i cannot figure out. I'm on mm 6.0 and the phone won't doze nor deep sleep. I did a factory reset several times and it's still eating battery in a ridiculous manner. Any help is appreciated.
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dr_w said:
I'm having a serious battery drain problem that i cannot figure out. I'm on mm 6.0 and the phone won't doze nor deep sleep. I did a factory reset several times and it's still eating battery in a ridiculous manner. Any help is appreciated.
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Did you try it after the factory reset but before adding back your apps?
Got any screen shots to share (e.g., from a battery monitoring app)?

Extremely mediocre battery life?

Hey everyone,
The battery life on my S9+ seems extremely mediocre. After not even 2 hours of SOT I am left with less then 25% battery. Also, Google seems to be using the most battery.
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Thanks for your help!
That could be due to not-so-optimized software.
My device is still stuck on the January update, so I'd guess that there will be an update soon.
Future updates might very well fix / improve the SoT, so it's basically down to: do you want to wait for updates or are you willing to use custom roms down the line?
If you answered "no" to both, then feel free to return it and get a different device.
YoungStarDC said:
Hey everyone,
The battery life on my S9+ seems extremely mediocre. After not even 2 hours of SOT I am left with less then 25% battery. Also, Google seems to be using the most battery.
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Is this a recognizable and fixable problem or should I send it back?
Thanks for your help!
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You can pretty much be confident it'll be a software issue and nothing to do with hardware. There will be fixes and optimizations coming. Naturally the battery burns down a lot faster in the first few days.
FrozenLord said:
That could be due to not-so-optimized software.
My device is still stuck on the January update, so I'd guess that there will be an update soon.
Future updates might very well fix / improve the SoT, so it's basically down to: do you want to wait for updates or are you willing to use custom roms down the line?
If you answered "no" to both, then feel free to return it and get a different device.
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I'm now on 2 percent after 2 hours and 10 minutes SOT. Surely this must be more than unoptimized software? My S8+ lasted way longer and software wise it seems the same.
For me it's decent, this is my first charge (s9+ duos)
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@YoungStarDC
That's not normal at all. Do you use the Google app regularly? Perhaps for voice searches or something like that?
I'ts not supposed to drain anywhere near that much.
The March security patch OTA was released for some countries today, check for an update, and after installing it, I'd recommend a factory reset and then start from scratch.
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For me it's decent, this is my first charge (s9+ duos)
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This seems way more in line with what it should be. I would be more then happy with 4-5 hours SOT.
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@YoungStarDC
That's not normal at all. Do you use the Google app regularly? Perhaps for voice searches or something like that?
I'ts not supposed to drain anywhere near that much.
The March security patch OTA was released for some countries today, check for an update, and after installing it, I'd recommend a factory reset and then start from scratch.
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I don’t use the Google App at all I think. I do have Google Assisant and “OK Google” on, but surely that cannot be the cause? I haven’t used it once today.
I’m letting it charge back to 100% after which I will see if there’s an update. If it’s the same thing tommorow, i should probably return it, right?
YoungStarDC said:
This seems way more in line with what it should be. I would be more then happy with 4-5 hours SOT.
I don’t use the Google App at all I think. I do have Google Assisant and “OK Google” on, but surely that cannot be the cause? I haven’t used it once today.
I’m letting it charge back to 100% after which I will see if there’s an update. If it’s the same thing tommorow, i should probably return it, right?
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No, don't return it just yet. This isn't a hardware problem.
Check if there's an update for the Google app, if not, here is the latest stable APK for it:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...le-app-7-22-24-21-arm64-android-apk-download/
Once you install this. Clear cache and data for the app, reboot your phone. Charge it fully to 100% and then go about your day and see if the battery life changes.
If it doesn't, give it one last shot by doing a factory reset (and/or updating to the March patch), and then observing battery drain.
If all that fails, then yeah sure, return it.
You have some weird thing going on
As you can see the battery is great it might be that its downloading all of your email attachments you should disable downloading email attachments via wifi on your gmail account. Reset phone and dont install it see how it goes first
murtaza02 said:
No, don't return it just yet. This isn't a hardware problem.
Check if there's an update for the Google app, if not, here is the latest stable APK for it:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...le-app-7-22-24-21-arm64-android-apk-download/
Once you install this. Clear cache and data for the app, reboot your phone. Charge it fully to 100% and then go about your day and see if the battery life changes.
If it doesn't, give it one last shot by doing a factory reset (and/or updating to the March patch), and then observing battery drain.
If all that fails, then yeah sure, return it.
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I installed the latest Google app using the link you provided and cleared the cache and data. There weren't any software updates available yet, however.
I do have a suspicion. Normally I always set my phone up from scratch but this time I used Samsung Smart Switch to quickly move things over from my S8+. I've got a feeling that this may be the cause but I'm not sure. I'll see how it goes first before I reset my phone.
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You have some weird thing going on
As you can see the battery is great it might be that its downloading all of your email attachments you should disable downloading email attachments via wifi on your gmail account. Reset phone and dont install it see how it goes firstView attachment 4442298
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I completely disabled Gmail using package disabler since I use Nine for my mail anyway. I'll go another day like this and if it's still this bad, I'm going to reset and setup from scratch. I'll keep you guys posted.
Thanks for the help up until now!
Mine still going strong; January 1 security patch.
But this is with wifi and indoor use, LTE and day light will be another story... And almost no real standby today.
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Which Model? SD or Exynos?
Goofytek said:
Which Model? SD or Exynos?
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It's an Exynos.
Yes, mine it's exynos.
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My Exynos s9 plus also has some pretty bad battery life at the moment, I'm giving it a week to settle down and see where i stand
ramheer said:
My Exynos s9 plus also has some pretty bad battery life at the moment, I'm giving it a week to settle down and see where i stand
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Every android user should know about BBS and should install it on a new phone. I'm on second cycle with my s9+ on LTE only
And wqhd resolution
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Every android user should know about BBS and should install it on a new phone. I'm on second cycle with my s9+ on LTE only
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Sorry but do you mean when you say BBS?
Betterbatterystats
It can take at least several charge/discharge cycles for the metrics related to discharge levels to home in an a reasonably accurate curve, and this also depends on your particular app usage pattern. For now, as the HGTTU says: "Don't Panic!"

Fix battery drain mobile standby

A troublesome bug that causes the drain (discharge at high speed of the battery) of the MI8 is caused by the voice Mobile standby, in fact if you go in the battery settings, you will notice a high% of consumption of the item in question.
This is caused because, by default in the Xiaomi rom (China or global) is also the search for frequencies also Chinese, this involves an intensive use of the network module that continues in a way to find these Chinese frequencies, which of course in our country , just as all EU countries do not exist, leading to greater use of autonomy.
Xiaomi is already aware of the problem and will certainly be resolved, when it is not known.
In the meantime, you can solve the problem by yourself, as follows:
Enter the following USSD code *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer.
Set the LTE / WCDMA mode to both SIMs
In this way, only the European frequencies will be used, eliminating the battery drain.
You're welcome btw
https://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=4953373&pid=33446288
It's also a pretty old bug, somebody else had the same idea 4 months ago:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...by-of-mi8-caused-by-td-scdma-searching.46054/
When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
Done, let's see now.
Thanks for the info
nfsmw_gr said:
Done, let's see now.
Thanks for the info
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When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
denzel09 said:
When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
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On miui perfhaps yes.
I'm on Syberia and it stayed like that.
Well, not a big hassle, I mean I reboot my phone once a week.
nfsmw_gr said:
On miui perfhaps yes.
I'm on Syberia and it stayed like that.
Well, not a big hassle, I mean I reboot my phone once a week.
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Come on.. this is not s solution. We have spent a considerable amount of money to buy this beautiful phone. But Xiaomi releases updates with no sufficient testing prior launch and this is actually annoying.
DV1973 said:
Come on.. this is not s solution. We have spent a considerable amount of money to buy this beautiful phone. But Xiaomi releases updates with no sufficient testing prior launch and this is actually annoying.
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I agree with you, I really do.
But even if you searched about the device you want to buy even for months before getting it you'll see there is absolutely no device existing without at least 2-3 issues out there.
Even pixels which are what android is and more than that, have problems.
You either bear with it, or stop using smartphones.
And the second option is not a viable choice for me.
P. S. Got a poco before the Mi 8 and refunded it because of the touch lag, I know that Xiaomi doesn't test enough, be it software or hardware.
nfsmw_gr said:
I agree with you, I really do.
But even if you searched about the device you want to buy even for months before getting it you'll see there is absolutely no device existing without at least 2-3 issues out there.
Even pixels which are what android is and more than that, have problems.
You either bear with it, or stop using smartphones.
And the second option is not a viable choice for me.
P. S. Got a poco before the Mi 8 and refunded it because of the touch lag, I know that Xiaomi doesn't test enough, be it software or hardware.
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I really respect what you say and most likely you are right but what now? You see I am using the phone professionally and battery is crucial for me.
Thanks for the advice. There is battery drain with V10.1.2.0. Cell standby. BTW, you can reach the menu by repeatedly tapping on "Internal Storage" in the "My device" settings. There are some "secret" links in settings.
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I really respect what you say and most likely you are right but what now? You see I am using the phone professionally and battery is crucial for me.
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If this bothers you that much then either flash a custom rom on it, or refund/sell the device and get something else, maybe an OP6T.
I ran a little test today to find out if other devices handle it better and it does appear to be so. Mido battery drain with LTE/WCDMA and LTE/TD-SCDMA/UMTS was exactly the same.
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But the cell signal history wasn't...
Redmi Note 4X, Xiaomi.eu 9.5, 70km Highway drive with Waze and internet music stream running, fixed display brightness. Same route in both tests, just opposite directions - hence me flipping 2nd signal history in the following screenshot:
I ran a similiar test on my MI 8 a week ago and there were massive differences in battery drain and signal history...like I said I think MI 8 has a baseband issue that somehow can get amplified by the MIUI default network mode setting.
well i seen someone said that global beta 8.12.20 it is way better.anyone tried it around here?i was thinking of trying it myself actually...i think i'll do and came back with some feedback.
idk I've been on global beta since 10.0.3.0 global stable release and I've had all of these issues. It's possible that android 9 adaptive battery feature in beta 8.12.20 helps a bit.
Make sure non interactive scenes are disabled in settings \ battery \ scenes
I have the same problem, my drain was 40% in 8 h in standby mode. I flash my phone to miui 9 and then i update to miui 10 - 10.3.3 global, then i clean al my programs and i don't update sistem apps from Xiaomi. At last i turn off my phone and i charge up to 100%. Now my drain battery per night is 5-6% and last almost 2 days?. Good luck!

Question MIUI 12.5.5.0 battery drain

Hello! I just bought recently this beautifull phone, I adore everything about it, except - the battery. When I 1st turned it on, it found an update 3,2GB and I applied it, 12.5.5.0 Global. I wonder if I did a mistake, maybe MIUI 12 was better.
Batt drain is huge when idle, 10 or more % overnight.
Gsam app (with adb permissions) says screen and system() are the highest per consumption.
Should I install eu rom (which)?
Or maybe the 1st rom for this device V12.0.2.0.RKIMIXM ?
Give it some time to adjust when fresh. Disable auto brightness and read this https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/uninstall-bloatwares-no-root.4321387/
jazzh said:
Hello! I just bought recently this beautifull phone, I adore everything about it, except - the battery. When I 1st turned it on, it found an update 3,2GB and I applied it, 12.5.5.0 Global. I wonder if I did a mistake, maybe MIUI 12 was better.
Batt drain is huge when idle, 10 or more % overnight.
Gsam app (with adb permissions) says screen and system() are the highest per consumption.
Should I install eu rom (which)?
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I'm on 12.5.5.0 and have no battery drain in idle.
Maybe you have to do some background settings.
Me neither, no problem. I'm just getting about 8 hrs of sot. Regular use and 60hz
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Me neither, no problem. I'm just getting about 8 hrs of sot. Regular use and 60hz
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That's amazing, I can't hit 5 hrs with 90hz, android system is draining a bunch of juice in my battery.
Same here. 4.5 hours of SOT over 24 hrs. Android System is the second most user (10%) after Screen (50%). Not sure why Android System is using so much.
manisa236 said:
Same here. 4.5 hours of SOT over 24 hrs. Android System is the second most user (10%) after Screen (50%). Not sure why Android System is using so much.
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10? My is using over 30%, sometimes climbs to 40... it's just insane
Was on 12.5.5 too and didnt think too much of it until I saw this post.
Was getting barely 3.5 hrs ending at around 12%. Running phone at 90hz
Sometimes I would just charge it mid-day to get some juice.
Had a tough time trying to downgrade to 12.0.2 but finally did and battery I think is alot better.
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dy2592 said:
Was on 12.5.5 too and didnt think too much of it until I saw this post.
Was getting barely 3.5 hrs ending at around 12%.
Sometimes I would just charge it mid-day to get some juice.
Had a tough time trying to downgrade to 12.0.2 but finally did and battery I think is alot better.
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So, yeah... its 12.5.5 that's screwing our batteries up?
Oh I forgot to mention also that I did use xaomiADBFastboot tools to remove the unwanted bloatware like the services and apps. I did this on both firmwares.
While using stock i noticed a few things . Each update was using more battery. Remember two things.. we have a good processer with a medium to small battery in keeping with it's design so we shouldn't expect the same battery life as the other "thick" xiaomi models. Having said that . I flashed a custom rom and without gapps the phone can last 2 days using camera watching videos and with Bluetooth on listening to music .So if you want decent battery. Start by not updating..using miui is like using google x2 ...so xiaomeme and google are sucking juice with processes under "system" and it is also what's causing heating . Apart from not updating, you must debloat and also root to disable certain gapps and xiaomi processes you can't without root. Next you absolutely must go through all the apps permissions and disable auto start and background battery and data for stuff that are not essential when you're not using your phone. THIS SAVES A HUGE AMOUNT ..just killing backgrounding of google application will save you a few percent. So that's all, no secret sauce . Just kill all the unnecessary background data and battery and auto start or disable google gapps and xiaomi stuff you don't use . Obviously you can see from my post that to get great battery you need to run pure aosp or lineage gsi using gapps replacement like nanodroid and fake store . If you don't want to go that far ,use lineage with minimal gapps and tweak the apps permissions and backgrounding . You will solve heating and battery issues. The problem are the gapps and xiaomi applications getting updated with each incremental update. I have tested on benchmark applications that each update is a little lower in points ..not much but a little worse. So be careful of updating. Sometimes xiaomeme is not refining stuff before making changes to new releases. and you need to imagine just the miui theming on top of aosp is already gonna use battery and processor. So that's my experience with the battery.. Obviously our screen at max brightness will kill our small battery quick, so try to be conservative and use autobrightness . You must also select in cellphone network to use 5G battery saving option. So when you don't use the phone it drops to 4G or 3G to save battery cos with each incremental G the network or gsm and sim suck more battery juice .Try to remember how hard people got hit when we went from 3G to 4G. We had to increase battery sizes quick....
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dy2592 said:
Had a tough time trying to downgrade to 12.0.2 but finally did and battery I think is alot better.
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Please explain the process of downgrading, thank you.
I reached 7h SoT on 12.0.7 xiaomi EU rom, beforehand I was on the latest 12.6.X EU rom and reached SoT of only 4.5h.
GreenParr0t said:
I reached 7h SoT on 12.0.7 xiaomi EU rom, beforehand I was on the latest 12.6.X EU rom and reached SoT of only 4.5h.
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you have Lite 4G.... first rom on 5G is 12.0.8
rayman95 said:
you have Lite 4G.... first rom on 5G is 12.0.8
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You got it backwards.
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You got it backwards.
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F..k I didn't find it....will look on afh...
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You got it backwards.
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Can you send the link of this page...
jazzh said:
Please explain the process of downgrading, thank you.
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He just installed the Xiaomi EU with that MIUI version i think?

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