Confusion between Camera Sensors? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hello, I have purchased Redmi Note 4 (sd 625) India via Flipkart. The same phone is also purchased by my friend via Flipkart.
But I notice variation between my and his camera and when I dig out the problem I come to the result that both phone has different camera modules.
I've a Sony imx258 back camera but he has a Samsung S5k3l8 back camera. So, I contacted some more Redmi Note 4 users and some of them have Samsung Sensor while some have sony.
So my question is while flashing any custom ROM will my camera work or not? As I think the camera blobs for both devices are different.
Note:- To view your camera sensor just go to Settings>About Phone>tap kernel version 5 times>version information.

Dhruv said:
Hello, I have purchased Redmi Note 4 (sd 625) India via Flipkart. The same phone is also purchased by my friend via Flipkart.
But I notice variation between my and his camera and when I dig out the problem I come to the result that both phone has different camera modules.
I've a Sony imx258 back camera but he has a Samsung S5k3l8 back camera. So, I contacted some more Redmi Note 4 users and some of them have Samsung Sensor while some have sony.
So my question is while flashing any custom ROM will my camera work or not? As I think the camera blobs for both devices are different.
Note:- To view your camera sensor just go to Settings>About Phone>tap kernel version 5 times>version information.
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Camera works fine for both sensors . However, the slow motion and other feature enabling tricks work only on Sony sensor.

You got lucky. Xiaomi changed the camera sensor from first Sony to Samsung and then to Omnivision. Sony is the best, Samsung is fine and Omnivision is the worst out of this three sensors.
You shouldn't get any difference if installing a custom ROM

Stuart0610 said:
You got lucky. Xiaomi changed the camera sensor from first Sony to Samsung and then to Omnivision. Sony is the best, Samsung is fine and Omnivision is the worst out of this three sensors.
You shouldn't get any difference if installing a custom ROM
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You're right maybe I'm extra lucky cause I ordered it in the month of July and still I get Sony IMX

My friend broke his RN4 display and he's selling the phone and when I asked him, He is willing to exchange the camera sensor(He has the sony sensor whereas I've the samsung) Can I just pop out his camera sensor and plug it in into my device or things are different on the software level too?

Aman Singh said:
My friend broke his RN4 display and he's selling the phone and when I asked him, He is willing to exchange the camera sensor(He has the sony sensor whereas I've the samsung) Can I just pop out his camera sensor and plug it in into my device or things are different on the software level too?
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Technically it should work because the drivers for the 3 different modules are already installed within the ROM.
What is the product number of you and your friend's device? It should be on the box (2016101 or 2016102). And would you be able to take a picture of your friend's Sony module? A lot of people on a different thread are trying to replace their Samusng/Omnivision modules with about 50% success because we don't know the exact numbers of module code of the IMX258
Thanks in advance!

yohyah said:
Technically it should work because the drivers for the 3 different modules are already installed within the ROM.
What is the product number of you and your friend's device? It should be on the box (2016101 or 2016102). And would you be able to take a picture of your friend's Sony module? A lot of people on a different thread are trying to replace their Samusng/Omnivision modules with about 50% success because we don't know the exact numbers of module code of the IMX258
Thanks in advance!
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Mine is 2016100 IDK his, I'll need to check. Well I'm on a Custom ROM so hope that can support it, I'll try, if it works or will revert back if that can be done
Thanks

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Using Redmi 3 with Google Play and Cardboard

Hi all.
I just took delivery of a Redmi 3 in Switzerland, bought from an online vendor. The unit was pre-configured for English, had the Mi market replaced with Google Play, and very few pre-installed apps. The MIUI version shows
MIUI Global 7.1|Stable
71.91.99(LHPCNCK)
I have not rooted it, but have replaced the Mi Launcher with Nova for a familiar look.
The only real thing I miss is the lack of 5GHz wifi, which gives me poorer reception at home. But I also have a couple of questions:
While I appreciate Google Play being installed (and default), am I missing anything important in NOT having the MiUI apps store installed, or not having a Mi account?
I want to use this phone with Google Cardboard. But, in use, while the VR works fine when head turning up-and-down, it doesn't respond when moving side-to-side. The Compass app seems to work OK (if a little jittery). Is there some calibration that I need to do? Or is it just not possible?
There's a setting under Network->More called "wireless display". Does anyone know what this is, if I can use this to display my phone's screen on a bigger display? Is it Miracast, something else? It would be great if I could use this feature.
Many thanks for any suggestions. And this is just after day 1!
i believe that's problem with Redmi 3 it self, since it also happen on me, when i use cardboard it deosn't work properly ( ithink there is something with sensor, not sure if it hardware or software)
as you MIUI version, if you only need english language, go flash via Mi flash an official Rom or even perhaps Developer Rom (curently v.6.3.25) it's stable at least for me, also battery is good for few days (more than 2 day battery life-depend on how you use the phone)
Many Redmi 3 user also expirience the same problem. Because there is no real gyro hardware. U can check it from CIT mode. Akm or bosch sensor suffer jittering but only a few Yas sensor got the problem, by disabling the magnet in the cardboard. Like my device sensor is akm so i cant use vr but that ok i fell sick when using vr (borrowing my friends vr). I still hoping its only a software problem. Coz there is no gyro hardware, some said its an emulated compas and accelerometer sensor. If its true may be an OP or DEV can make the fix
I have the same problem, it's impossible to pan sideways, just up and down, it makes Cardboard useless. Hope someone can find a fix to this problem!
zack_rains said:
Many Redmi 3 user also expirience the same problem. Because there is no real gyro hardware. U can check it from CIT mode. Akm or bosch sensor suffer jittering but only a few Yas sensor got the problem, by disabling the magnet in the cardboard. Like my device sensor is akm so i cant use vr but that ok i fell sick when using vr (borrowing my friends vr). I still hoping its only a software problem. Coz there is no gyro hardware, some said its an emulated compas and accelerometer sensor. If its true may be an OP or DEV can make the fix
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I just bought a VR visor, and my phone has a Yas sensor, in this case should it work? Can I use the magnet or not?
Sent from my Redmi 3 using Tapatalk
volpe96 said:
I just bought a VR visor, and my phone has a Yas sensor, in this case should it work? Can I use the magnet or not?
Sent from my Redmi 3 using Tapatalk
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Some can, some is not. If your vision jitter, try not to use the magnet. See if it still jitter or not.

Rear and Front camera sensors on Indian RN4 (SD version)

Can someone confirm the Rear and Front camera sensors on Indian RN4 (Snapdragon version).
I have learnt that some batches have Sony and some have Samsung sensors.
I want to know which one is better and which one my phone has. Any way to know that?
TIA.
nihar13 said:
Can someone confirm the Rear and Front camera sensors on Indian RN4 (Snapdragon version).
I have learnt that some batches have Sony and some have Samsung sensors.
I want to know which one is better and which one my phone has. Any way to know that?
TIA.
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GO TO SETTINGS, ABOUT PHONE, TAP KERNEL VERSION multiple times and it will enter CIT mode. Select software version and scroll down and look for CCM and CCM-S.
CCM is main camera - if sony it will have IMX (followed by numbers) if others it is Samsung. Mine (Redmi Note MTK) is SSK3L8 which is samsung
CCM-S is secondary camera.
But surely they would be made to the same spec regardless of manufacturer?
Wilderone said:
But surely they would be made to the same spec regardless of manufacturer?
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Should be the case but there will be small differences.
asusm930 said:
GO TO SETTINGS, ABOUT PHONE, TAP KERNEL VERSION multiple times and it will enter CIT mode. Select software version and scroll down and look for CCM and CCM-S.
CCM is main camera - if sony it will have IMX (followed by numbers) if others it is Samsung. Mine (Redmi Note MTK) is SSK3L8 which is samsung
CCM-S is secondary camera.
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Thanks. Mine has IMX. So I think its Sony.
One minor correction - When you enter CIT mode, the option is "Version" (not software version), but I think that cosmetic difference may be only due to different SOC.
The specs should be the same with minor differences, but I have heard that Samsung sensors are better in low light and Sony is better in clarity. Dont know if thats real!
asusm930 said:
GO TO SETTINGS, ABOUT PHONE, TAP KERNEL VERSION multiple times and it will enter CIT mode. Select software version and scroll down and look for CCM and CCM-S.
CCM is main camera - if sony it will have IMX (followed by numbers) if others it is Samsung. Mine (Redmi Note MTK) is SSK3L8 which is samsung
CCM-S is secondary camera.
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how to check in custom ROM like RR or Pixel Experience (redmi note 4 mido)
ismail.ahmed84 said:
how to check in custom ROM like RR or Pixel Experience (redmi note 4 mido)
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I follow...

Install IMX 258 possible ?

Hey,
I've a MI4C unusable at home, his sensor his an IMX 258, do you think it's possible to install it on redmi note 3 pro ?
What will happen camera will not be understand by software ? it's possible for me to add drivers or something on it to make camera working ?
Impossible.
Hey, thanks for your answer, that's sad
@jordandroid64 Well actually that might be possible. First of all check if you can stick Mi4c camera module to the kenzo's motherboard.
If it'll stick then you might need libs and kernel support but don't bother of it now.
jordandroid64 said:
Hey, thanks for your answer, that's sad
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Hey go ahead and give it a shot don't worry about the software support
Provided that the new sensor can work with the current hardware, building a kernel that supports it would be fairly easy!
Hey, so I've try, unfortunately that's impossible: sensor is bigger in redmi note 3 pro and has more pins.
I've try with k3 note, same size and same number of pins but opposite sense.
Redmi note 4x have some time an IMX258, and the pins looks like to be at the same number if someone have one, or one camera, maybe we could change with it... IMX 386 from Honor 6X is maybe compatible also.

It is possible camera sensor or module is change with same device.

I have 2 redmi note 4 one I buy in March but unfortunately its 100% damage...so I buy second redmi note 4 who comes with Samsung camera sensor...so I am not satisfied with Samsung camera sensor pictures specially when I zoom any object pictures is not good...so I open my new rn 4 and remove the camera and inserted Sony imx258 camera but when I open camera app its says error... So I inserted Samsung camera again...so I wanna know any method is possible if I root my phone and change my Samsung camera sensor to Sony.the Sony camera sensor form old rn 4 who comes with Sony.
I don't know but if I was you, I'd install the better camera sensor, then flash the latest MIUI developer ROM with MiFlash. This way probably some config or firmware file will be updated and the camera will work (maybe a simple reset could do the trick).
Bro not work i flash with fastboot... But not opening the camera of sony.
AbhishekJi111 said:
Bro not work i flash with fastboot... But not opening the camera of sony.
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There is a different camera models with different connectors model 3 / 32Gb is not the same as the model with 4 / 64GB.
The connector is in fact the same visual but your contacts do not match.
check this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpc3dd-WVcU&t=14s

Which camera sensor are the new lots of RN4 shipping with in India?

Hi All
I am planning to buy a RN4 from Flipkart.
To one of my queries in Lineage OS thread, one user responded the following:
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Originally Posted by saurav_k
Also, which custom Camera is best?
Any degradation in camera / images compared to MiUI cam app? Can we use MiUI stock cam app on custom roms?
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I've read that the modded Google cam is the best camera for custom roms possibly even better than stock MIUI as there are settings that you can tweak to get the best possible photo quality however there is a huge catch, it doesn't work with Omnivision camera. Well technically, it still works but you don't have HDR which is pointless as the app was modded for HDR to work.
There is a huge chance that you'll get Omnivision if you buy brand new as newer note 4x batches no longer comes with Sony or Samsung camera. Hopefully the October 6 camera commit by highwaystar on Lineage fixes this.
Yes, you can flash MIUI camera ported from MI A1 but HDR and few other features does not work and yes there is camera quality degradation which is very common on non-nexus/pixel devices as there are proprietary libs/drivers that's closed source.
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People who bought RN4 recently from Flipkart, please help me make an informed decision by mentioning what camera sensro you got?
Sony / Samsung or omnivision?
saurav_k said:
Hi All
I am planning to buy a RN4 from Flipkart.
To one of my queries in Lineage OS thread, one user responded the following:
Quote:
Originally Posted by saurav_k
Also, which custom Camera is best?
Any degradation in camera / images compared to MiUI cam app? Can we use MiUI stock cam app on custom roms?
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I've read that the modded Google cam is the best camera for custom roms possibly even better than stock MIUI as there are settings that you can tweak to get the best possible photo quality however there is a huge catch, it doesn't work with Omnivision camera. Well technically, it still works but you don't have HDR which is pointless as the app was modded for HDR to work.
There is a huge chance that you'll get Omnivision if you buy brand new as newer note 4x batches no longer comes with Sony or Samsung camera. Hopefully the October 6 camera commit by highwaystar on Lineage fixes this.
Yes, you can flash MIUI camera ported from MI A1 but HDR and few other features does not work and yes there is camera quality degradation which is very common on non-nexus/pixel devices as there are proprietary libs/drivers that's closed source.
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People who bought RN4 recently from Flipkart, please help me make an informed decision by mentioning what camera sensro you got?
Sony / Samsung or omnivision?
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I bought from flipkart and it has Sony sensor.
Shubho20 said:
I bought from flipkart and it has Sony sensor.
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When did you buy?
saurav_k said:
When did you buy?
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2 months back. And fingerprint sensor is FPC too.
Shubho20 said:
2 months back. And fingerprint sensor is FPC too.
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LCD Tianma?
Regarding FP Sensor I got confused. Goodix has issues with some roms right? or is it FPC?
saurav_k said:
LCD Tianma?
Regarding FP Sensor I got confused. Goodix has issues with some roms right? or is it FPC?
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I don't know about LCD. And yes oreo roms has issues with goodix sensor right now, but devs are trying hard to get it fixed and eventually it will.
Doesn't matter where you buy it, it's 100% random you can get anything.
k3lcior said:
Doesn't matter where you buy it, it's 100% random you can get anything.
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Agree
Which app are you using to check what the hardware is? I wanna check my camera and FP sensor too, since I bought from Flipkart too during that sale. Thanks.
Sparx75 said:
Which app are you using to check what the hardware is? I wanna check my camera and FP sensor too, since I bought from Flipkart too during that sale. Thanks.
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dial ##6484## then press 1. version information
plz check and update here
Doesn't work on custom rom I am guessing? On RR.

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