Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Would you mind sharing the link to the battery? Thanks. And good points, making me think twice about my order...
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Would you mind sharing the link to the battery?
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I got it from a seller called "battery_expert". Mostly because he sounded like he was a battery expert. $17.30.
I just checked and there are no more left.
Honestly, UBreakIFix was way more on the ball than I had ever anticipated. Your mileage may vary.
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I got it from a seller called "battery_expert". Mostly because he sounded like he was a battery expert. $17.30.
I just checked and there are no more left.
Honestly, UBreakIFix was way more on the ball than I had ever anticipated. Your mileage may vary.
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You know what, i just cancelled my order too. Seriously, $900+ for a phone. I realized how good the 6P has been even after two years. There is nothing new that i can do on a pixel 2 that i can't do on my 6P. Going to replace the battery and ride it out until the phone dies at some point. Thanks for the sanity check lol
Yeah a few months ago I contacted Google and they said they'd send a replacement 6p. After a month of nothing, I talked to them and they said it was on backorder so they'd just refund me my money. I thought "cool, I'll use my M8 and spend the money on a pixel XL 2". Then a day later my refurbished 6P showed up.
Battery life is pretty damn good again, especially on Oreo.
As much as I like the way the XL 2 looks, it's not that amazing to me to justify almost $1000.
I'm perfectly fine using this thing for another year.
Which ebay battery did you buy?
I may wind up doing the same thing. I got a quite from UBreakIFix with a new battery from them for $89.99 which I couldn't quite stomach.
Unfortunately right now its a shot in the dark with eBay batteries are there are no known good sources still available.
I may be tempted to try this one as a $45 ish repair is a lot better then $90.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/192239649598
Was thinking of getting Pixel XL 2 as well , but since my 6P performs flawlessly, I'll stick to it for the time being.
I love the xl2 myself but the 6p has always been my favorite device for a reason. The phone is still today one of the best phones you can buy so I'm with you guys. No way I'm spending that much on a phone.
Dconn1975 said:
I love the xl2 myself but the 6p has always been my favorite device for a reason. The phone is still today one of the best phones you can buy so I'm with you guys. No way I'm spending that much on a phone.
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It's really not lol and that's coming from a big fan of the phone.
When do they usually have sales on new devices? I may wait until they have a price drop or sale on the XL. My guess is after the new year we may see price cutting.
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JeffBea said:
When do they usually have sales on new devices? I may wait until they have a price drop or sale on the XL. My guess is after the new year we may see price cutting.
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Doubt Google would actually lower the price until after the XL 3 is on sale. What they would do is throw in more and more valuable add-ons, like a full size Home, or, depending on sales of both, even a Home Max after a few months. Free VR Googles, anyone? And any combination thereof.
Third party vendors will likely have them for a cheaper price after a couple of months.
My 6P is still under warranty. I sent it in for dying at 15% and it went to a Huawei authorized service. Came back after a week, the report says they changed the battery, the pfc board (it's the board the charger plugs into) and main camera (which i had no issue with). It's been two weeks with it and the battery is just as bad as before - still dies at 15%, AccuBattery says 2233 mah capacity and I get about 2h screen time. I'm not sure what to do now.. Is it possible that a new original battery would be this bad? Should i just give up on it or send it in again under warranty? I was really hoping on riding it out another year at least..
I'm pretty sure that they didn't changed your battery...
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It's really not lol and that's coming from a big fan of the phone.
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What, the 6p you don't think is a worthy device even today? I do. I think it's a great device for what you pay for it compared to 900 dollar phones that it can easily keep up with.
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What, the 6p you don't think is a worthy device even today? I do. I think it's a great device for what you pay for it compared to 900 dollar phones that it can easily keep up with.
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It's not cause it's hit or miss. So many problems plague this phone and it comes with one of the most half assed processors ever. The op3 is a much better buy
I went to a local shop in Toronto, near Kennedy and Highway 7, and paid $50 cash (no tax) for the battery, and I had them replace the rear glass as well due to a scratch on it for an additional $20 cash (also no tax).
Finished in about 30 minutes, has a 30 day warranty and was done on Oct. 3rd. After 3 drain/charge cycles (apparently required for warranty to be valid... how they'd know I did it or not is not known.. did it anyway) my battery life has doubled.
Before fix, I'd get the early shut down at 50ish percent, but now I get a full battery charge to 0.
I'm pretty sure I have some knock off as the temp sensor remains a constant 30 degrees Celsius, even after I put it in the fridge for 3 minutes to test it out, but I'm not too worried. I don't use rapid chargers, so it's only ever charging with 2.4A.
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My 6P is still under warranty. I sent it in for dying at 15% and it went to a Huawei authorized service. Came back after a week, the report says they changed the battery, the pfc board (it's the board the charger plugs into) and main camera (which i had no issue with). It's been two weeks with it and the battery is just as bad as before - still dies at 15%, AccuBattery says 2233 mah capacity and I get about 2h screen time. I'm not sure what to do now.. Is it possible that a new original battery would be this bad? Should i just give up on it or send it in again under warranty? I was really hoping on riding it out another year at least..
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Your current battery is bad at only 65%. Whether they changed it you will never know. Like many others here, I would order a battery from a known good source and pay a local repair shop to replace it. Then it should last a good long time.
Wiltron said:
I went to a local shop in Toronto, near Kennedy and Highway 7, and paid $50 cash (no tax) for the battery, and I had them replace the rear glass as well due to a scratch on it for an additional $20 cash (also no tax).
Finished in about 30 minutes, has a 30 day warranty and was done on Oct. 3rd. After 3 drain/charge cycles (apparently required for warranty to be valid... how they'd know I did it or not is not known.. did it anyway) my battery life has doubled.
Before fix, I'd get the early shut down at 50ish percent, but now I get a full battery charge to 0.
I'm pretty sure I have some knock off as the temp sensor remains a constant 30 degrees Celsius, even after I put it in the fridge for 3 minutes to test it out, but I'm not too worried. I don't use rapid chargers, so it's only ever charging with 2.4A.
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Wow getting you to drain your battery is a terrible idea
Pig Vomit said:
Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Man congrats!! That's a good story indeed. I don't blame you for cancelling your order. I personally could not believe of all companies that Google would leave the headphone jack off the phone. Being a purist company I mean you gotta include the headphone jack. It's a nice phone but I can tell you from experience coming from the Samsung S8 which also had the 18.9 ratio that it was way too narrow. The proportion was way off to me so I sold my S8 and was able to locate a brand new Nexus 6p 64g that I ended up buying for only $150!! I got extremely lucky on my deal. I couldn't agree more with you as your 6p will easily last you another year if not longer and is every bit just as good as a phone as the pixel 2 and my Samsung S8.
Related
http://cgi.ebay.com/2300mAh-Extende...ccessories?hash=item2a0345cc94#ht_2529wt_1202
what ya think guys? anyone know the seller?!
yeah, that seems interesting and cheap too. Anyone tried it yet?
Yeah, me.. I bought one of this some weeks ago and works fine, lots and lots of hours using my phone without be afraid to read "Please connect your phone to a charger" lol
Also, the replacement of the back cover is nice, but the only "bad" thing is that the camera hole is, simple a hole, nothing like the original one that protect it (plastic cover).
i ordered one ill let ya know!
I originally wanted to get the 2,300mah one, but then came across a bigger capacity one "2850mAH T-Mobile HTC G1 Dream Extended Battery + Door" for only $13 with international shipping! I ordered it... will see whether it is a good buy or not. I was one of the original users of Andida's 1,600mAH batteries (the good batch).
I just started using the 2300mah, same back cover design also. Works fine, doesn't overheat and lasts for a very long time even when running really high cpu clocks.
It was only about 10 bucks shipped. Same seller also.
Edit: The back cover is soft like the stock one. Overall, it is about 1/4 of an inch more. It feel good in the hand, fits nice and easier to hold, but it does feel a bit heavier than before.
I just got mine today, only had the opportunity to give it a USB charge... After almost 10 hours of uptime, downloading a ROM via 3g, 25 mins of talk, hours of web browsing for work at moderate brightness, I still have 65% left. I expect it to increase when I treat it better after a deep cycle discharge and clearing battery stats to (supposedly) condition it. The case is decent... fat, but totally worth it.
One caveat... I emailed the seller (same outfit from whom I bought mine btw) after the purchase, and let them know my home address IF they were to send by UPS instead of USPS. They ended up trying to send the battery to my home address by First-Class USPS due to a language barrier that revealed itself in the e-mails that followed. Had I not known the postmaster in my small town, it would have ended up returned to sender. The seller was very friendly and quick to respond, and had I not sent that first e-mail I am confident it wouldn't have happened like it did, so I'll take the full blame on that one. Rule of thumb: pay, keep quiet, receive item, use.
just got mine is yesterday..changed it all night been off charger since 630 EST gps, 3g, my location, brightness about 3/4, mp3 for a about an hr..still pushing 100%.. will update wen it dies...
Seidio 2600mAh FTW
Good Stuff.
For the record, My 1st dirty charge on USB power (I was at work) yielded a functional phone from 2/17/10 at 3:00 PM until 2/19/09 at 5:30 PM or so when it shut down on me... I am calling it 50 hours. Apparently there was a bit of juice in the battery because it charged super fast that first time. I work right near a 3g tower and always have a degree of brightness on the phone, leave bluetooth on for at least 35 minutes a day, and I use every power-hungry aspect of this phone like the tips and tricks say to avoid... But I bought it to use it. Ironically I SMS far more than I talk (I yap on the phone all day for a living)... Given my data habit (that first charge involved downloading Super D 1.8 which is in the 40+MB category and an obscene amount of apps), I am a very happy customer. I have not grown tired of the back cover, which has honestly made typing more comfortable.
I probably would have gotten the Seidio if I wasn't a ridiculous tightwad with a 9 year-old computer to prove it. Only the good die young right?
Looking into an extended battery, but I'm not too sure.
In a past experience, there wasn't much of a difference and it also crapped out after a couple months of use.
Can someone please suggest a good quality extended battery and also the advantage or extra usage time i would get with it.
Thanks!
I would suggest the HTC extended battery from Verizon. That would be your best bet.
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I would second that. Especially when they have 50% off at Verizon store. I picked up 2 of the original htc 2750m bat. $25/ea.
25, really? I got mines for $30 at the local Verizon store. Oh, well.
You might wanna look at this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346774
Definitely go for the HTC battery.
I can run my phone at a constant OC of 1.8 GHz on GB or 1.7 GHz on ICS while it's awake (underclocked to 192 while screen is off) and full brightness for a good 30 to 40 hours on a single charge.
You are underclocked with set cpu, or are you using a different software?
I think most people are using CPU Master, Set CPU was having some issues on this phone. It may have been updated, not sure.
I use set cpu because the issues don't occur on ICS roms and the person who made SetCPU goes to my school
brando56894 said:
Definitely go for the HTC battery.
I can run my phone at a constant OC of 1.8 GHz on GB or 1.7 GHz on ICS while it's awake (underclocked to 192 while screen is off) and full brightness for a good 30 to 40 hours on a single charge.
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That is insane! How much do those run?
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That is insane! How much do those run?
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around 50 bucks depending on where you get it. Amazon has the HTC OEM Extended for $47.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Rezound-O...8COG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329539005&sr=8-1
Keep in mind, the other poster was using underclocking which helps to extend the life of the battery while the screen is off.
Verizon had them for $30, but I'm not sure if they still do. Its worth a shot though.
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Verizon had them for $30, but I'm not sure if they still do. Its worth a shot though.
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Yeah I went and bought mine and turned out to be 30 bucks. HAven't gotten it to a full charge yet, but I'm hoping for the best. Also coppied that one gentleman's idea and underclocked when screen is off. Wish me luck!
My Verizon obtined HTC extended battery with cover showed up today. I actually thought it would be larger. It is charging now... Will see how it works out over the next day or two.
Planned on using it when I was on extended trips, but i do find the device a bit easier to hold with the extended battery on, though it is a bit heavier.
Got the battery for $30
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My Verizon obtined HTC extended battery with cover showed up today. I actually thought it would be larger. It is charging now... Will see how it works out over the next day or two.
Planned on using it when I was on extended trips, but i do find the device a bit easier to hold with the extended battery on, though it is a bit heavier.
Got the battery for $30
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Where did you order the extended battery? I talked w/ a chat sales rep and they told me it was 59.99.
I've done this twice now..
Go to the store, get the battery. Rep says it's really $30 because the system says so or at least it says it was $60 originally. The box is labeled $49.99 so tell them the math and you win. I've had to do this with two of them. One rep was a complete ass and I don't care if it was $5 I didn't want to give him money so I just went to another store.
Played with the extended battery all day today. Was pretty good, but found at times the phone felt heavy while using it. Today was a good test because I was out most of the day and had to make a lot of calls (relative passed away today)... so I was away from any power sources and really needed my phone.
However, even with a heavier phone, I had no issues or worries about battery life. When I got home, I still had 79%. In the past with the original battery, without a lot of what I did today, I would typically have 30% left when I got home.
As for ordering it, ... if you are logged into your Verizon account, apparently all you see as a best price at checkout is $49. However, if you log out of your Verizon account, and do the same thing, the battery and cover is $29.
I did the latter and got it for $30 with free shipping. It came in 2 days.
I ended up buying one because I was on a business trip and I accidently left my phone on and with wifi tether running while I was on the plain. Lol, and I was tripping about why my View was saying that phones network was on. So when I landed I headed I noticed I had about 20% left. I went to do a little shopping and ran into a Verizon store. I was going in with the intention of buying a normal battery.
They sales rep shows me the regular and the extended and tells me that the extended is on sale for 25% ($25) and the regular one was at regular price $29? Or 39. Can't remember but I said screw that give me the extended. When I popped it in it had about 45% that 45% lasted me about 16 hours, that was about 2 more hours then a regular one would do for me. Now I use it for my everyday use. I used to have the thunderbolt before the rezound so I was used to a bit of bulk. I did not mind it at all. It is still incredibly light and fits great in my hands, I actually like the feel better then with the regular battery. 100% fully charged on the extended battery I see 30+ hours of higher than moderate use, and 24+ hours with heavy use(4g, screen on for about half that time, wifi tether on, GPS navigation, and many calls, texts, and lots of web surfing, on that 3day trip alone I gulpped up 8gb, thank god for unlimited data ).
My opinion on the extended battery? Get it.
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krelvinaz said:
Played with the extended battery all day today. Was pretty good, but found at times the phone felt heavy while using it. Today was a good test because I was out most of the day and had to make a lot of calls (relative passed away today)... so I was away from any power sources and really needed my phone.
However, even with a heavier phone, I had no issues or worries about battery life. When I got home, I still had 79%. In the past with the original battery, without a lot of what I did today, I would typically have 30% left when I got home.
As for ordering it, ... if you are logged into your Verizon account, apparently all you see as a best price at checkout is $49. However, if you log out of your Verizon account, and do the same thing, the battery and cover is $29.
I did the latter and got it for $30 with free shipping. It came in 2 days.
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What zip code are you putting in I was only seeing them online for 60
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What zip code are you putting in I was only seeing them online for 60
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85202 - but I didn't enter that. I logged out of my account.
Used Shop - Selected Accessories
Searched for Rezound under Android
Selected Rezound as device
Viewed all Recommended Accessories
Selected place in cart (the desc shows $59)
Look in cart and it is $29
I've had my Tab 2 10.1 since last November and it has seen some pretty heavy use. These are the problems I am facing and don't know if there are any decent solutions.
Battery does not last as long. It seemed to go from running for hours on end, to maybe 3 hours almost overnight.
When charging from Samsung charger, with Samsung cable and powered off, takes 12 hours to reach full charge.
(bonus) back is scratched to buggery. Would like to replace it.
Item 1 and 2 may require a new battery. What is a reliable place to buy from? I am based in the UK, so that will narrow the field considerably. I have seen various batteries on eBay for £20-30 but typically marked as seller-refurbished, can't refurbish an EOL battery.
Item 3 is merely cosmetic and I suspect getting a (tasteful) skin will be my best option, only place I have found offering a back cover has it in silver for £45.
Any other options other than buying a replacement from a potentially dubious source?
galorin said:
I've had my Tab 2 10.1 since last November and it has seen some pretty heavy use. These are the problems I am facing and don't know if there are any decent solutions.
Battery does not last as long. It seemed to go from running for hours on end, to maybe 3 hours almost overnight.
When charging from Samsung charger, with Samsung cable and powered off, takes 12 hours to reach full charge.
(bonus) back is scratched to buggery. Would like to replace it.
Item 1 and 2 may require a new battery. What is a reliable place to buy from? I am based in the UK, so that will narrow the field considerably. I have seen various batteries on eBay for £20-30 but typically marked as seller-refurbished, can't refurbish an EOL battery.
Item 3 is merely cosmetic and I suspect getting a (tasteful) skin will be my best option, only place I have found offering a back cover has it in silver for £45.
Any other options other than buying a replacement from a potentially dubious source?
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Hey there,
First off, just want to point out that you're in the wrong forum - this is for the original Tab 10.1, the previous generation
But to answer your questions, because its always good to help each other out:
Items 1 and 2, batteries aren't too easy to replace in tablets as they're meant to be non-removable. The best place for this would probably be a Samsung service centre, see if they can do anything about replacing a battery.
Item 3, again, same thing. Although a nice and functional case should fix this as well.
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Well, bugger. I guess that just wasn't my day. Thanks though.
After looking at several posts in XDA and Reddit, it seems that the BLOD or BootLoop of Death is happening to devices everyday as we approach the 2 year mark of the N6P release. Seems like a hardware issue or maybe a combination of both. My question is that do you guys think that this issue is actually a large number of lemons or that there is really a design flaw. Will all 6Ps eventually BLOD? Is it a matter of If or When?
Also it seems that the batteries were indeed pretty bad, with 4 users that I know personally all experiencing the degradation.
Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
Eric214 said:
I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
KLit75 said:
Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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Gotcha. And thats a hell of a deal! I've been thinking of upgrading, OP5 is really tempting. If I got $350 for my 6p itd be like a 45% discount. Much better than the trade-ins carriers give you.
Edit-No it's like a 70% discount! $539 for 128 gb 8gb ram. For some reason I thought the base model came in at around $700
Eric214 said:
Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
I just saw this over at the google tracker and wanted to share it.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37130791#comment598
[email protected] <[email protected]> #597 Jun 24, 2017 07:53AM
For those of you hit with this problem and who have been denied warranty or are having no joy with either Google or Huawei, I have found a solution, albeit not the best of solutions but one that will have at least have a 60% chance of bringing back to life your Nexus 6P.
So after running some solid tests over the last week and abit on a few Nexus devices hit with the BLOD, I have found the following:
* BLOD Issue is not a software related Issue, Well not in full only in part, 6.0.1 handles and reacts to the sudden voltage drop that happens with the shockingly bad battery in our phones, it reacts to the loss differently so something changed in the newer versions 7.X.X that must trigger the battery to do something different and then causes the phone to BLOD, though the 6.X.X train was not entirely immune from it, the phone would hold up longer.
* Through various tests both with electronic hardware and software on the phone, you can physically watch the battery health drop sharply on a daily basis, these batteries are really that bad.
* The OEM Battery is a POS, when it gets put under load the Voltage tanks and tanks sharply, when it is not under heavy load and running at <31deg/cel the phone will work but only if the following conditions are meet... (1) The motherboard has not been fried by the battery shorting it out, a small IC chip appears to get damanged by it from what we can tell when we did testing on about 4 phones, but not on every phone or (2) the battery health is well enough to keep powering the phone.
* Here is where the problem gets interesting, the more the battery gets put under load, the more it degrades and rapidly, my current Nexus 6P 128GB Frost White version which is getting replaced on Monday by Google is down to 36% battery health, meaning if it drops below 60% battery life the phone just shuts down, so to prevent it from going into bootloop I have to keep it above 60% and each day the battery health is dropping even more roughly a 1% very two to three days at the moment.
* So we decided to put in a Generic battery into one of the 64GB versions that is stuck on BLOD, and it was nothing more than a battery from HK some cheap no-name of eBay, and BOOM! The phone boots up and comes to life again...
* However I have noticed a pattern on three devices I tested this on over the last week, I think the original battery at some point ends up damaging the PCB (Motherboard) and from what we could observer this would be the norm, if your battery is spiking and doing all sorts of things it shouldn't be, it has the potential to fry other components. There isthree of us doing these tests with one being an electronics engineer and the other two of us just being tech heads who repairs phones as a hobby.
* Now if we put back in the OEM battery, guess what? The phone would not boot up, it would just BLOD and on the meters the battery would just spray out wild voltage and all over the joint, these are really crap and awefully bad batteries that Huawei have put in the Nexus 6P, In fact we are not sure why they dont blow up like the Note 7 phones did, given how erradic the voltage spikes are.
* I can safely say that the Huawei made Nexus 6P has a huge problem with the installed battery, which by extension is also causing electronics to fail if it gets caught in the BLOD for too long and overheats the phone. My advise, if your phone goes into BLOD then don't strain, stop using it stright away, dont stree the phone too much, get the battery replaced ASAP, find someone who knows how to open it and replae the battery inside of it with a $7-$16 battery that you can get of eBay, this will at least bring your phone back to life.
I have spent about $400 on testing this to get to the bottom of it, having to buy batteries, run multiple tests, and also buy broken Nexus 6P Phones, at least I can get some of it back by selling the phones that have been brought back to life I guess.
Good Luck peeps, and my advice is to stay away from any Huawei Phones, because if has happened to this phone which was supposed to be a flagship, then it can happen to other Huawei phones if they are using the same or similar batteries, unless they knew all along and have changed them.... Which now makes me wnt to buy other broken Huawei phones and see if they have changed them.
Cheers,
David.
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cyberedward said:
Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
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Yeah, fortunately I haven't had any issues with hardware on my phone. I'm curious if we'd ever see numbers hardware failure rate.
I've loved my 6P. I'm gonna miss the front facing speakers and QHD display. I may not notice the difference in 1440p to 1080p done I don't need with VR.
I share the same experience as Eric214, I have the phone since November 2015, my Accubattery show 93% 3191, I have all update installed thru OTA. Never rooted or installed custom ROM, here is my stat from Accubattery
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Eric214 said:
Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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I have literally never gotten that much sot on this phone, I feel like even if I didn't install any apps and left it in airplane mode I still wouldn't.
My new s7 edge gets me crazy battery life, but the 6p has been disappointing as far as battery life goes.
I think the bootloops and battery dissipation are caused by overheating of the 810, though that's just my professional opinion. Components don't like heat, especially when packed so closely together.
I had this battery issue after 14 months, replaced it 10 days ago - AccuBattery said my battery had something about 40%, now it says 101%. Everything back to normal.
Funny thing is: a month ago, AccuBattery showed 88% as well, everything working fine. Suddenly, 52% and the shutdowns began (no BLOD). I lived with this scenario for 15 days (battery health going down fast), almost bought an iPhone to replace it. Digging around I found a post from a Brazilian dude that brought its N6P back to life buying a battery from a given seller in a known online platform here and I decided to give it a try - battery and replacement costed 12% of what I paid on my phone. I expect to have it working until Pixel 2 pops up.
I'm in the group that after just 14 months my battery is at 67% of it original capacity and my SOT is around 2 hours. The worse battery performance of any phone I've ever owned. And I take care of my battery rarely will I let it drop below 60%, as I try to avoid deep discharges that harm battery longevity.
But no boot looping thus far.
as for the long post mentioning updates from MM to Nougat, i believe that the only thing i defintely did notice was with the battery behavior, the first weeks it took much longer to fully charge the battery , and it freaked me out.
now it is kind of normal again, i rooted my 6p the day i have got it haha.
i love flashing custom roms/kernels.
had the 6p for about 10 months now, i love it and really hope that it won't let me down quick.
at least another year would be nice, or 2.
So according to what @cyberedward mentioned from Google tracker replacing EOL battery with new Huawei made battery is like setting timer in a time bomb to another value ...
I don't know if they'll all bootloop but the battery is crap. After my experience that I documented in another thread, Id doubt anyone who's used the phone for a year has a battery thats holding anywhere close to full capacity.
Mine also shuts down at 20%. Now 4 days out of warranty. I'm gonna fight with the people at Huawei to get it replaced but best case scenario, I have to find a temporary phone for however long it takes to get it fixed.
3 year old phone?-I guess cut your loses.
But within a year?... complete BS! It's defective and they should recall them all.
***And to the OPs original question--what sucks is theres no known cause for the bootloop so you could get the battery fixed and within days, weeks, months you might also deal with that.
It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
inspire4gfreak said:
It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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You have a bad battery, replace it and your good to go........ It's been discussed for months......... not a software issue
All phone batteries go bad over time, the 6p just manifests it by dieing early. My wife's LG G4 scaled her % properly but she just got bad screen on time. A bad battery is a bad battery......
inspire4gfreak said:
It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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My phone started shutting down with the battery as high as 40%. I went to the Google store website, chatted with a support rep, and though I was technically out of warranty, they set up an RMA without any argument. My new phone arrived 2 days later, I transferred the data from my old one, and dropped it in the mailbox in the package the new one came in. My new 6p's battery life is great.
All in all, it was one of the better experiences I've had with any company's customer support. Heck, I even got a spare AC adapter and USB C cable out of it.
I don't know if it is hardware or software anymore. I replaced my battery in mid July with a Cameron Sino battery. During the eclipse this week, I had my phone taking time lapse photos (not directly at the sun). Shortly after the eclipse, I noticed my phone was off. I booted it back up, and checked the battery. I saw the same battery drop off at about 25%. My phone still had 18% after boot up.
robsonline said:
I don't know if it is hardware or software anymore. I replaced my battery in mid July with a Cameron Sino battery. During the eclipse this week, I had my phone taking time lapse photos (not directly at the sun). Shortly after the eclipse, I noticed my phone was off. I booted it back up, and checked the battery. I saw the same battery drop off at about 25%. My phone still had 18% after boot up.
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And what is your battery capacity using Accubattery? CS batteries do have a good rep, but it's possible you got a dud or a knock off. Test it and see.
Geezerooo said:
You have a bad battery, replace it and your good to go........ It's been discussed for months......... not a software issue
All phone batteries go bad over time, the 6p just manifests it by dieing early. My wife's LG G4 scaled her % properly but she just got bad screen on time. A bad battery is a bad battery......
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Yes, I am aware that phone batteries get old and go bad. But I think false reporting how much juice do I have left is a software issue. It gets annoying when you don't know if your phone will turn off at 15% or 25-30%. In the last few months I stop touching it when it comes down to 30%, just to be sure.
I read about people that ordered new battery on eBay, along with all necessary tools for replacing it in the same package. I don't have a possibility for RMA in my country, I bought my 6P on eBay too, so that's probably a way to go for me.
inspire4gfreak said:
It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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Looks like you are watching a whole bunch of Cat Videos.
Software cannot always work around hardware issues. Many different phones with other OS's do exactly the same when there is a battery issue (iOS is one which does exactly the same). If you have no warranty, then getting the battery replaced yourself is the only real option as it is hardware, not software at fault.
I'm convinced the processor is destroying the battery.. too much heat, too much drain
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Too much charging is more likely a culprit. See lots of people charging phones to 100% several times a day when it has not really discharged that much. That will do more damage to a battery than anything.
That didn't go how you thought it would now did it OP?
The Nexus 6p is just really sensitive not sure what the battery does that makes it reboot. My first replacement battery gave me issues but the second one was fine. The only problem with the cheap ones is temp sensor doesn't work. But I don't feel its a huge loss. My suggestion buy a new battery the phones great. ?
Nickchapstick said:
That didn't go how you thought it would now did it OP?
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How did he think it would go? I agree with the op, in the long run this phone has been disappointing. Google knows it, which is why they're still replacing them 2 years after the fact and there's a class action lawsuit pending.
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