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When (if) we finally get this baby S-Off and devs start cooking kernels, will they be able to tweak how bright the capacitive lights are? On my device, at least, the lights are so bright they look a little pink. Is that something controlled by the kernel? If the brightness on them was dialed down, I feel like it might help.
Rabble rabble rabble.
I believe that's something that will be able to be fixed via software.
Absolutely. That's can absolutely be incorporated into the kernel. If a dev makes a configurator for the terminal emulator th u can adjust it by a percentage. We had a few configurators for the EVO and the settings were for both OCing and the capacitive button. Very useful
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I believe that's something that will be able to be fixed via software.
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Devs can tweak the Capacitive brightness through kernel, Evo 3D & Sensation both can change their brightness. But there's a script that lets you change the lights from bright to dim and then off. Although Faux has managed to make the Leds dynamic based on the screen brightness, which is quite useful.
Having a dynamic ability would be great! However, 9/10 you can see the buttons without them being lit at all.
I couldn't care less about the brightness, I more hate they're so inconsistent. At home with my incadescent lights, they never come on. At work with all of the flourescent lighting where it's much brighter, they do turn on. Makes no sense man!
Could just be the lighting the sensor is more sensitive to.
rboddy said:
I couldn't care less about the brightness, I more hate they're so inconsistent. At home with my incadescent lights, they never come on. At work with all of the flourescent lighting where it's much brighter, they do turn on. Makes no sense man!
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Sounds pretty consistent to me. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Yeah, I had the EVO 3D for a few weeks, and when we only had temp root I did a lot of playing around with terminal scripts, for OC and whatnot. But this is good news! Like somebody said, you rarely actually need them. But when you do, they don't even need to be very bright at all to be seen. I feel like at stock levels, it is a little overboard.
I think even having it at 50% would be more than enough. Anyway, thanks for the responses. Looking forward to such development.
Rabble rabble rabble.
i usually want my led lights as bright as possible, but i know from taking it apart and lighting it up, its pretty much as bright as the led will go, its just the tint of red on the digitizer is thick enough so the light doesnt shine through pink like you said, however maybe on yours the tint is thinner who knows. I usually change phone everytime a new one comes out, or else i would (which i still might) solder on RED leds so i can push them out even brighter red.
Led Notification ?
Speaking of lights, does this phone have an led notification light for missed calls, voicemail, texts, etc?
SamsungVibrant said:
Speaking of lights, does this phone have an led notification light for missed calls, voicemail, texts, etc?
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Yes
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I agree, the capacitive keys are too bright and look pink-ish. If we can adjust them to make them dimmer, make them more of a true red, that would be awesome.
My lights are on whenever the screen is on. Is there a way to change it. I have seen post talkin about them never turning on but I rather they never turn on not always be on.
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Download an app called Screen Filter. Set it to 100% to keep the normal brightness, then uncheck Enable soft key lighting option. Screen on even in dark with no capacitive lights.
how do I activate the eye sensor? or is it on automaticly? are there any settings about I can change?
Settings>Display>Smart stay.
Seems not to work so well for some. Almost flawless for me. YMMV.
The eye icon will only appear just before the time the screen would normally go off, this is when it looks for eyes and decides if the screen should be kept on.
I think a lot of people expect to see the icon all the time.
I have the "smart stay" enabled but it does not work for me. I have only had it for a day in in door light, so I don't know if that is the problem. I have verified that the front facing camera works by placing a Skype video call. Also, I have brown eyes.
Why do you say that it doesn't work? What the smart stay does is, after an amount of time it sees if you are look to the screen, if you are it keeps the screen on, if you are not it closes the screen.
Mine works and i also have brown eyes.
I have small eyes and it works for me
It works for me 50% of the time. It depends on the angle you hold the phone and the amount of lighting.
I don't know how it worked in the Samsung commercial that was advertising this feature given how dark the room was.
I have the QC case and I really like the functionality of the thing but the problem is that with the case in place, the tiny notification LED is pretty much impossible to see unless you're right in front of it! Most of the time, the case hole for the LED is simply not aligned with the LED itself so it's nearly impossible to see the damn thing when it's flashing!
Is there some app that will display a flash or a notification in the circular hole in the QC case so we don't have to rely on seeing the microscopic LED for notifications?
I was thinking of NOLED app or something like it, but i'm not sure how it will work if you actually already have a notification LED!
There is already a built-in option to use flash as notification under settings /general /accessibility
Yeah, I know that but I didn't want to set off a beacon for nearby aircraft, just a gentle dot in the circle window or something!
I m comfortable with the size of the notification led, also using with original quick circle case/cover
I don't mind the size, but once you add the QC case to it, it's nearly impossible to see the LED unless you're directly in front of the phone. Move 20 degrees off centre and the LED can't be seen anymore. Try it and see! As for seeing the notification when phone's on a table in front of you, forget it!
I would say to make the hole bigger, but I don't know how the case works, and I have one. I use the LG G watch R for notifications, I like being able to read them on my watch when I am in a meeting. I don't get as many dirty looks as if I look at my phone.
I've looked around and no one seems able to 100% confirm or deny if there is a notification LED.
I know the G6 doesn't so im hoping they have rectified their error...?
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There's definitely no notification LED.
Montechristo said:
There's definitely no notification LED.
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Oh man - disappointed!!!
Thank you though
Montechristo said:
There's definitely no notification LED.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. There's no led notification light? ??
I was gonna grab this device even though I don't like the headphone jack placement mistake they've made. Now there's no led? That's a deal breaker for me. ?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. There's no led notification light? ?
I was gonna grab this device even though I don't like the headphone jack placement mistake they've made. Now there's no led? That's a deal breaker for me.
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There is OLED notification via always on display. OLED make an extra LED at the top obsolete, especially in bezelless designs.
puremind said:
There is OLED notification via always on display. OLED make an extra LED at the top obsolete, especially in bezelless designs.
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Notification LEDs will never be obsolete. The s8 still has one and it's very useful, despite it having always on display.
Definitely not a deal breaker
I saw in one video a violett light flashing right next to the loudspeaker, happened during a video or sound recording.
Was a German video on areamobile.
May it can be modified.
schuertzi said:
I saw in one video a violett light flashing right next to the loudspeaker, happened during a video or sound recording.
Was a German video on areamobile.
May it can be modified.
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Hmmm... Yes, that's what happened with some of the Moto phones. There's a green LED notification for low battery only, but devs modified it to be general notification LED in custom ROMs.
schuertzi said:
I saw in one video a violett light flashing right next to the loudspeaker, happened during a video or sound recording.
Was a German video on areamobile.
May it can be modified.
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I wonder if this was the proximity sensor which is just reacting to the camera?
It is obsolete, OLED can totally emulate an LED and look exactly the same. No need for an extra component. Just use an LED notification emulator for always on display.
Well, if there's an out-of-box function which has a simple notification on the OLED screen which works the same way as a traditional LED, then I would accept.
As for S8, they have notification on the AOD... which is fine.
But wait.. I'm one of those who does not have a lock screen, thus I can never get notification icons on my AOD. That sucks. So you can imagine if the S8 does not have a notification LED, I'd be forced to turn on the lock screen, or live without any notification indication.
Bummer..
Really bad movement by LG not to have led notification despite having AOD.
S8 series has both of them so why not by LG.
Bad decision defiantly.
Actually it does seem to have LED notification. I am going by specs on a couple websites that list it as available and the picture on LG's website.
Edit: apparently not. See below.
Having the G6 without it I will say not a big deal. AoD is awesome enough, much better to glance at that.
no led notification, confirmed by LG
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milan187 said:
Having the G6 without it I will say not a big deal. AoD is awesome enough, much better to glance at that.
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I'm ok with AOD too.
But.. is the AOD with all notifications present without a lock screen? I've love to know :fingers-crossed:
Considering how much they've been pushing the AOD, it'll most likely not have a notification LED. I however would love one, despite the AOD.
I feel like an old timer who can't adjust to how things are right now, but I feel like AOD's are a waste of valuable battery resources (however light they may be).
I know an AOD will work wonders considering the amount of information it can display on a notification, but having an RGB LED pulse like night rider just sits better with my liking. I love having a green pulse for whatsapp, a teal pulse for group messages, a white pulse for sms and a purple pulse for missed calls (red for e-mails etc).
I'd love to have somthing wide like Pixel C. Maybe a notificaiton LED and an AOD triggered with the proximity sensor (flick of your hand, or pulling it out of your pocket etc) with a summary of the message or event.
But yeah, it probably won't have an LED. and yeah, despite talking so much about it, I probably won't miss it (except for the cringy feeling inside me when I go to camp and want to squeeze all my battery has to offer and I have to turn my AOD off)
I hope you can customize the heck out of the AOD or have an LED notification lookalike. Otherwise this is a dealbreaker. I use that light for everything.
Depends on your usage but for me RGB NLED is simpler and more effective than AOD. AOD is better if you keep your phone close to you at all times as it provides richer information. But i'm not glued to my phone. When I'm doing other things at work or at home I leave my phone on a desk or sofa or whatever but I can still see the NLED from a distance and decide whether to ignore it or not depending on the colour.
AOD on the G6 and S7 were not very visible at a distance. Maybe it's brighter now, I'm not sure. Will have to check it out in person. Also I'm not sure how much the AOD impacts battery life.
NLED is one of those features that does a simple job but does it effectively with little fuss. Not a deal breaker but I will miss it if it's gone. Paying for a new phone and losing a feature is not a nice feeling. Each to their own I guess
Otherwise I think the LG V30 is close to perfect for me. Was thinking about the Essential Phone but the camera is terrible and no headphone jack is pretty annoying.
The Made by Google Twitter account confirmed the P3 does not come with a notification light! That's insane and takes away one of the great advantages that Android has over iOS. I can't tell you how many times I was unaware of messages and voice mail on my work iPhone because it doesn't give any indication of a missed notification.... For hours and even days!
This is unacceptable!
This really sucks. I have it configured to give me so much information with just a glance. They probably saved $0.01 per phone leaving it off.
They probably think we all want to use AOD to see our notifications! I've never used it myself, why, BECAUSE THE LED LIGHT WORKS GREAT! Good grief!!
Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
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Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
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If you remember, the Nexus 6 had one but it wasn't implemented by the factory. It took a tear down before it was found and a clever programmer figured out how to make it work!
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led.
I am standing in front of the pixel 3 display and can confirm there is no notification led! Not even in the settings!
what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
djy said:
what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
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I don't know, but it's a terrible idea to remove the only way to see missed notifications without turning on the screen.
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led
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Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
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Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
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I personally will not use the always on feature, so walking the screen will be my only way of seeing missed notifications. Just like the iPhone, Google is forcing you to interact with your phone the way they want, and leaving us without choice.
Passive notifications are no more. ?
This sucks. Its not a game changer but I do use led to see what I got, very useful
The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
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The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
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Pixel phones purchased direct from Google can all be bootloader unlocked in developer settings. It's easier than just about any other device. Root access will be gained shortly after the phone is released into the wild, and hopefully, Magisk can be used to pass safety net for Google pay. I totally understand your other concerns, but rooting shouldn't be one of them.
No LED totally sucks. I don't use AOD because of increased battery drain and increased burn in. So no way to see if there are notifications without picking up the phone. Weak battery was already bad enough.
I understand it's probably not the biggest deal in the world or anything but for me personally if the notification led is gone, I'm probably going back to Apple.
And this isn't the be-all-end-all reason, Google just seems less and less interested in truly making their devices/software unique and if it's going to essentially be the same thing as an iPhone, then I may as well just have an iPhone.
Kinda OT, but I have to say it's weird that the only other phone i've had that did AOD really good was the OG Moto X. I'll get used it on the P3. I really don't depend on it that much on my P2.... if a notification goes off, I usually hear it or feel the vibration first anyway. Rare are the times I'm spotting a led color "from across the room" lol..
I never have my sound on, drive a truck and use the notification light exclusively for notifications. Forcing me to pick up the phone (as with any professional driver) is ridiculous. Changing colors of the light allowed you to see exactly what or who the notification was from and very private. AOD is distracting and less informative. Makes 0 sense.
I've always used the notification led with my OG Pixel, so now I'm getting used to the aod.
My question for you guys is do you have aod turned on and is there noticeable battery drain from it or any other potential downside? Or do you have it where the aod only turns on from lifting the phone or double tapping?
I'm trying to pick what's the ideal way to go with this. I realize it'll probably be a personal preference deal, I've just never had an aod phone before. Thanks!
I thought that if notification comes in, screen flashes once in a while, but it doesn't seem to do that.