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Dear Friends,
Very quick question, searched and searched and can't obviously find the answer to this question... But, dowsing the Verizon V30 come factory SIM unlocked like all other Verizon phones? Or does it need to be SIM unlocked? If is does need to be unlocked, what method is it to do so? Buying an unlock code or requesting Verizon to do it?
Finally, if it does come out unlocked out of the box like other Verizon phones, have any of you been using it on AT&T? How's your experience? What's missing?
Thank you!
ProFragger said:
Dear Friends,
Very quick question, searched and searched and can't obviously find the answer to this question... But, dowsing the Verizon V30 come factory SIM unlocked like all other Verizon phones? Or does it need to be SIM unlocked? If is does need to be unlocked, what method is it to do so? Buying an unlock code or requesting Verizon to do it?
Finally, if it does come out unlocked out of the box like other Verizon phones, have any of you been using it on AT&T? How's your experience? What's missing?
Thank you!
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Yes, Verizon phones are SIM card unlocked/carrier unlocked -- since 2012.
But Verizon said they were going to start locking them for 90 days to prevent theft from stores and delivery trucks. Not sure if they've started that yet.
You can always convert it to carrier unlocked US998 and not worry about it.
That's what people do with the carrier locked Sprint LS998. Just turn it into carrier unlocked model US998.
I run my US998 on AT&T. See the Frankenstein thread.
ChazzMatt has given you the correct advice here (as per usual).
Thank you for your response bud! So does that mean that much like the Samsung phones, the hardware across all carrier phones is the same, it's just the firmware and etc that needs to be changed?
Does the unlocked firmware unlock additional bands?
Can you point me to this thread/guide you mentioned? Thank you!
ProFragger said:
Thank you for your response bud! So does that mean that much like the Samsung phones, the hardware across all carrier phones is the same, it's just the firmware and etc that needs to be changed?
Does the unlocked firmware unlock additional bands?
Can you point me to this thread/guide you mentioned? Thank you!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76510671&postcount=168
Even though it says LS998 to US998, it's really for ANY North America variant, like Verizon VS996. Everyone has done it.
It will change your bands to the open market LG US998 V30.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
hello, I was wondering if it was possible if the LG V30 US998 model has proper support for T Mobile or is good speed and connection wise on T mobile network? any help is appreciated
AngryUserLG said:
hello, I was wondering if it was possible if the LG V30 US998 model has proper support for T Mobile or is good speed and connection wise on T mobile network? any help is appreciated
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Proper support, except for band 71.
ChazzMatt said:
Proper support, except for band 71.
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I have us998 on tmobile and im on band 71. Im rooted though
guytano86 said:
I have us998 on tmobile and im on band 71. Im rooted though
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How did you do that?
Can you provide proof like with LTE Discovery screenshot?
If true, you're going to be a hero and cause a lot of excitement...
Even with root and "enabling" via T-Mobile network hidden menu, no one in the past few months could get LTE band 71 to actually be used on US998. We gave up.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
How did you do that?
Can you provide proof like with LTE Discovery screenshot?
If true, you're going to be a hero and cause a lot of excitement...
Even with root and "enabling" via T-Mobile network hidden menu, no one in the past few months could get LTE band 71 to actually be used on US998. We gave up.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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@guytano86 should use Network Signal Guru since they state they are rooted. It should present the most accurate, and complete info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qtrun.QuickTest&hl=en_US
I am just chiming in for the band 71 chat as ChazzMatt answered the OP in post #2. I have the same set up and it works well.
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cstark27 said:
@guytano86 should use Network Signal Guru since they state they are rooted. It should present the most accurate, and complete info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qtrun.QuickTest&hl=en_US
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So i had it when i went to san Jose,CA but i live in Sacramento, can't duplicate it unfortunately. Band 71 isn't available in Sacramento yet..
ChazzMatt said:
Proper support, except for band 71.
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thanks almost forgot to ask is it easy to unlock the bootloader and root? and are the chances of bricking this model high or no?
AngryUserLG said:
thanks almost forgot to ask is it easy to unlock the bootloader and root? and are the chances of bricking this model high or no?
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Yes. See the WTF bootloader unlock and root thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500
So...have we cleared up the discrepancy about whether or not band 71 works on the us998 model?
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Also, anyone know the difference between models us998 and us998u? I'm looking to get a used one from eBay but it appears people use these model numbers synonymously. And us998 is the us Cellular version...and locked version as well? Huh?
(BTW my goal: I have TMobile and really want a rootable phone that will work on band 71 with wifi calling - are we there yet?)
Thanks everyone! Amazing community we have here!!
kevin71246 said:
(BTW my goal: I have TMobile and really want a rootable phone that will work on band 71 with wifi calling - are we there yet?)
Thanks everyone! Amazing community we have here!!
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OnePlus 6 meets that requirement. Then next month the Pixel 3 will be out with B71 already confirmed and will be unlockable.
Maybe the Moto Z3 Play, E5 Play/Plus (only the versions sold by TMobile) can be bootloader unlocked but not sure.
cstark27 said:
OnePlus 6 meets that requirement.
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Yeah, but he wants a premium phone.
Like with IP68 (or ANY IP rating), Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440P resolution.
OnePlus is a pretender, not a real premium phone.
ChazzMatt said:
How did you do that?
Can you provide proof like with LTE Discovery screenshot?
If true, you're going to be a hero and cause a lot of excitement...
Even with root and "enabling" via T-Mobile network hidden menu, no one in the past few months could get LTE band 71 to actually be used on US998. We gave up.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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@ChazzMatt I've seen your name pop up quite a bit about this band 71 functionality, but haven't read anywhere you personally ever got it to work. Yet in this thread 2 people claim they got it to work. Any updates? Have you ever gotten it to work or seen actual evidence others have? Thank you kindly!
kevin71246 said:
@ChazzMatt I've seen your name pop up quite a bit about this band 71 functionality, but haven't read anywhere you personally ever got it to work. Yet in this thread 2 people claim they got it to work. Any updates? Have you ever gotten it to work or seen actual evidence others have? Thank you kindly!
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I don't use T-mobile, I use AT&T so the T-mobile Band 71 wouldn't show with my SIM card. AT&T doesn't use Band 71 and I have no roaming on the AT&T Prepaid plan I use.
I do know we cannot flash T-mobile modem as I was hoping, due to the different RSA encryption LG/T-mobile mandated for the H932 (different from all the other North American variants, for some reason).
But yes, others say they have gotten Band 71 on rooted US998, with T-mobile SIM card using various tricks like the Shortcut Master Lite, etc. I have no way of confirming what they say.
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But yes, others say they have gotten Band 71 on rooted US998, with T-mobile SIM card using various tricks like the Shortcut Master Lite, etc. I have no way of confirming what they say.
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And more importantly, I don't think anyone has provided definitive proof so I'm just going with misunderstanding on their part until then. :fingers-crossed:
ChazzMatt said:
How did you do that?
Can you provide proof like with LTE Discovery screenshot?
If true, you're going to be a hero and cause a lot of excitement...
Even with root and "enabling" via T-Mobile network hidden menu, no one in the past few months could get LTE band 71 to actually be used on US998. We gave up.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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And more importantly, I don't think anyone has provided definitive proof so I'm just going with misunderstanding on their part until then. :fingers-crossed:
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Damn. Sucks no one reliable can confirm. If anyone is reading this and can confirm, please speak up! Will help many others...
Thanks for the replies Gents.
Hey first thankyou for you amazing website !
So im looking for lg v30 or 30+ second hand.
How I can be sure that it will work back in Brazil
I get a hardtime to figure out you guys look like u know what u doing thans for the help appreciate!
Baltou said:
Hey first thankyou for you amazing website !
So im looking for lg v30 or 30+ second hand.
How I can be sure that it will work back in Brazil
I get a hardtime to figure out you guys look like u know what u doing thans for the help appreciate!
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I've been to Brazil six times since 2007.
Yes, LG V30 will work in Brazil, especially if you
1) get one of the North America variants listed below OR
2) even better buy H930DS.... (If you only need in Brazil)
You mostly need LTE bands 3 & 7 for Claro, Vivo, Oi, TIM, Nextel, etc.. But as of 2016, some Brazilian carriers have also started using newer LTE band 28.
If you buy any North America variant (except for T-MOBILE H932, stay away from that), you can convert to carrier unlocked US998 via Frankenstein method and have bands 3 & 7. Or to keep it simple, buy US998 (which is carrier unlocked and has fastboot flash commands, if you ever need them).
LS998, H931, H933, VS996, AS998, US998 are ones you want to look for.
You will be converting to US998, if not already US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
OR even better buy H930DS (DUAL SIM V30+), if you can find it -- if it's for Brazil and not for U.S. use. It has LTE bands 3, 7 and 28 -- and you can use dual SIM cards, which is popular in Brazil. Plus, it has fastboot flash commands, if you ever need them. IF you buy that, make sure it has "DS" in the name. Because there's also plain H930, H930G, etc.
H930DS:
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz +TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G LTE: 1/3/5/7/8/20/28 + TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE1900 (B39), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
However, H939DS -- while perfect for Brazil -- is missing major LTE bands for U.S. Does NOT have LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12.
Lg v30+ us998 no working Brazil ?
Hey i come to you again i got the LG v30+ us998 someone flash it for me from Sprint . so im arrived in Brazil I got a vivo 4g chip but its sadly not working any idea to fix that ?
Baltou said:
Hey i come to you again i got the LG v30+ us998 someone flash it for me from Sprint . so im arrived in Brazil I got a vivo 4g chip but its sadly not working any idea to fix that ?
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Does this 4G SIM card also allow HSPA?
You're not getting anything, or just not getting LTE?
What LTE band(s) are they using in your area?
They don't make you buy their own phone, do they? Is it Vivo Prepaid or contract?
You tried contacting customer service? Maybe they have to activate something on their end.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
Baltou said:
no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
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customer service well the sim working and the other phone I got here
Baltou said:
no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
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Hmmm... I not seeing any mention of LTE band 50. Just 3, 7, 28 -- and you're not going to get 28 with US998.
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Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Okay só i have to go for 3 or 7 I was surfing in the hidden menu clicking on lte band selection is saying sucess but nothing happened
Baltou said:
Okay só i have to go for 3 or 7 I was surfing in the hidden menu clicking on lte band selection is saying sucess but nothing happened
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Be careful of the hidden menu on US998 for LTE bands. Choosing one will LOCK you onto that band and it can't change. I had to factory reset mine one time after doing that. There's also another fix, which I can't remember right now.
Okay so any idea. What can I do.
Hi all,
First I want to thank all of you guys for the V30 posts. You guys helped me pick this phone with confidence as I had not found a proper replacement to my dear Nexus 5.
I just bought an unlocked LS998 at BnH and before flashing it to US998 I tried the Google speed test with my ATT SIM card.
I had between 6 to 9mbps up ( same down) while my current phone (HTC10) is showing 22 to 25mbps.
Same SIM card and same location.
Is this because I am missing att bands? I notice band 1(2100) was missing vs the HTC or the US998.
I believe the hardware itself should be an upgrade from the 2016 HTC 10 Cat9.
Thank you,
[email protected] said:
Hi all,
First I want to thank all of you guys for the V30 posts. You guys helped me pick this phone with confidence as I had not found a proper replacement to my dear Nexus 5.
I just bought an unlocked LS998 at BnH and before flashing it to US998 I tried the Google speed test with my ATT SIM card.
I had between 6 to 9mbps up ( same down) while my current phone (HTC10) is showing 22 to 25mbps.
Same SIM card and same location.
Is this because I am missing att bands? I notice band 1(2100) was missing vs the HTC or the US998.
I believe the hardware itself should be an upgrade from the 2016 HTC 10 Cat9.
Thank you,
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I'm not clear. Are you still on LS998? Or US998?
Also depends on what ATT band you're trying to use. Band 5 is slow like that. It's just supplemental to the main LTE bands.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm not clear. Are you still on LS998? Or US998?
Also depends on what ATT band you're trying to use. Band 5 is slow like that. It's just supplemental to the main LTE bands.
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Hi ChazzMatt
I am still LS998 fresh out of the box.
Can we pick the band we use? I left it by default.
Thanks
[email protected] said:
Hi ChazzMatt
I am still LS998 fresh out of the box.
Can we pick the band we use? I left it by default.
Thanks
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Not easily, but using LTE Discovery app you can see the band being used.
Any reason you haven't already flashed to US998?
AFTER bootloader unlock and root, your can even turn it into ATT H931, if you wish.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Not easily, but using LTE Discovery app you can see the band being used.
Any reason you haven't already flashed to US998?
AFTER bootloader unlock and root, your can even turn it into ATT H931, if you wish.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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No particular reason except that I am at work and got my phone during my lunch break :angel:
Also I wanted to read more before starting any modification (warranty and IMEI registration on LG for instance).
I am still a noob in terms of smartphone but looking at your comment and what I have read in this forum I understand that the hardware is the same between the US998/LS998/H931 and that you can "unlock" specific band by flashing the phone. Which reassures me in chosing the LS998 $50 cheaper than the US998.
Thank you very much.
Actually in the settings hardware info it's already showing LG-US998....
The box says LS and it was sold as unlocked LS on B&H... I'm confused now...
[email protected] said:
Actually in the settings hardware info it's already showing LG-US998....
The box says LS and it was sold as unlocked LS on B&H... I'm confused now...
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Well, technically it is now "unlocked" LS998, since it now has US998 firmware.
Did they flash it to Nougat US998 or Oreo US998?
ChazzMatt said:
Well, technically it is now "unlocked" LS998, since it now has US998 firmware.
Did they flash it to Nougat US998 or Oreo US998?
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Nougat unfortunately 7.1.2 security patch (Apr 1, 2018).
I just realized that most of the good tutos, guides and what not were from you. So another thank you. I have much to read!
[email protected] said:
Nougat unfortunately 7.1.2 security patch (Apr 1, 2018).
I just realized that most of the good tutos, guides and what not were from you. So another thank you. I have much to read!
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Well, they did half the work for you. Now just update to the version of Oreo you need.
I currently have a LG V20. Where I work is probably 3 miles from a Verizon tower. We have very weak signal out here, and sometimes I can't even get texts for a while.
Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception?
Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
micallen said:
Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception for Verizon?
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suhridkhan said:
Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
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Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
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What's a good app to use to check for that?
micallen said:
What's a good app to use to check for that?
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LTE Discovery app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
If you keep it on while you drive, it will keep a record of all bands you lock onto.
You can also use it while standing still to see what band is near where you are, of course.
CDMA SHUTDOWN
Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
ChazzMatt said:
Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
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So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
tech_infinity said:
So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
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Somehow the ZTE Axon 7 (not even a Verizon device) has Verizon VoLTE on Lineage. (Or did a couple years ago. Have not checked recently.) It was a mystery the dev either could not explain or did not want to explain, at that time.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+