As title says, they mentioned that Mate 10 has headphone jack which includes a 32 bit dac inside. I am curious to know which dac brand and model they used in their new flagahip.
Huawei Mate 10 Pro doesn't have a headphone jack, but I'm also wondering if it has that 32bit DAC.
Their slides say it has 32-bit for the Pro USB-C as well.
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No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
Now the non-pro model, that actually has a DAC, who knows?
The whole press event from Huawei was very obsfucating and didn't properly specify which features were non-pro OR Pro-model features. The same goes for the actual huawei.com specifications pages for these models.
Until the phones ship, are torn down and or rooted, we have to wait for the information.
I'm still hoping that the China model (6GB/128GB) of non-Pro Mate (with sdcard and 3.5mm headphone jack) turns up for sale online and has the nice features I'm hoping it has.
vasra said:
No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
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What's the source of this information?
The Mate 10 Pro box comes with a USB-C headset.
It also comes with a USB-C to headphone adaptor. Will that adaptor have the DAC then?
What if I use an adaptor with analogue audio pass-through. What DAC will it use then? I assume it will still use a 32-bit DAC on the pro? Otherwise digital only.
If it comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm adaptor, then the device has a DAC
vasra said:
No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
Now the non-pro model, that actually has a DAC, who knows?
The whole press event from Huawei was very obsfucating and didn't properly specify which features were non-pro OR Pro-model features. The same goes for the actual huawei.com specifications pages for these models.
Until the phones ship, are torn down and or rooted, we have to wait for the information.
I'm still hoping that the China model (6GB/128GB) of non-Pro Mate (with sdcard and 3.5mm headphone jack) turns up for sale online and has the nice features I'm hoping it has.
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The output is analog. Confirmed by a guy on youtube who connected the pro using the inbox usb-c to 3.5mm adapter to an external loud speaker.
The usb type c converter might have a dacs even the apple one has ,and so does the HTC u 11(I guess)
However they might be talking about the ones that might be integrated in their soc.
Don't get your hopes high though.Nothing can still beat the v20
We recieved the usb-c to 3.5mm audiojack, but Huawei told us it is wil not be in the consumer box.
However the usb-c earphones will be in the box
The Pro does have the audio adapter in the box.
What is confusing is what standard and how is Huawei implementing it. I have a pair of Razer Hammerhead Type C headphones. They work fine as you'd expect with the Razer phone. They work really well with my MacBook Pro and show up as USB C headphones, but plug into the Mate 10 and it says they are not digitally certified and dont sound great.
So does that mean Huawei need a headphones with a DAC built in to work ? or something else.
Whatahifi.com Huawei Mate 10 Pro
DAC: Digital to analogue convertor
Phone = Digital
Headphones = Analogue
Sorry to say but you have no idea of what your talking about.
A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog Converter. A DAC [Digital-to-Analog Converter] is a device that converts digital audio information (comprised of a series of 0s and 1s) into an analog audio signal that can be sent to a headphone amp.
Conclusion:
Every digital device has a DAC. Differentiation is made by the quality and amplifier power. I like AKM DAC's for example. Son unless you guys have discovered a way to build a phone with lamps you have listen to a DAC.
P. S. According do What a HiFI it has a High End DAC but the phone stutters heavely so I think I am going to return it.
gavinfabl said:
The Pro does have the audio adapter in the box.
What is confusing is what standard and how is Huawei implementing it. I have a pair of Razer Hammerhead Type C headphones. They work fine as you'd expect with the Razer phone. They work really well with my MacBook Pro and show up as USB C headphones, but plug into the Mate 10 and it says they are not digitally certified and dont sound great.
So does that mean Huawei need a headphones with a DAC built in to work ? or something else.
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Hi Gavin, have you tried in on Mate 10 Pro yet? wonder how does it perform as Mate 10 Pro doesn't have a DAC in the phone. Would you please describe more on the sound quality you encounter on Mate 10 with Hammerhead?
I am thinking to get one pair for my Mate 10 Pro..
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DAC: Digital to analogue convertor
Phone = Digital
Headphones = Analogue
Sorry to say but you have no idea of what your talking about.
A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog Converter. A DAC [Digital-to-Analog Converter] is a device that converts digital audio information (comprised of a series of 0s and 1s) into an analog audio signal that can be sent to a headphone amp.
Conclusion:
Every digital device has a DAC. Differentiation is made by the quality and amplifier power. I like AKM DAC's for example. Son unless you guys have discovered a way to build a phone with lamps you have listen to a DAC.
P. S. According do What a HiFI it has a High End DAC but the phone stutters heavely so I think I am going to return it.
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You have partially right, ther is not only a DAC solution, ther is PWN ! PWM is the best way to have a ****ing damn really good sound !
We have to know if the manufacturer use a DAC or PWM, and what is the chip used.
I personally use a "FX Audio D802". It is a Class-D amplifier, all class-D are PWM and do not use a DAC of course. And it sound really great, really better than a lot of expensive DAC+amplifier.
I personnaly don't love the Qualcomm DAC, i think it is really poor. I know some OPPO, ZTE and some others (Huawei/Honor ?) use AKM DAC but don't know wich one
Is anybody know what the chip used on the phones ? ... the only way to have good sound is to use a DAP.
Regards
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My question in about this sweetie over here:
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I want to buy it to be able to listen to music in the car while navigating and charging. Here are the tech details from the expansys website:
Technical Details
• HTC ExtUSB standard headset connector
• Mini USB power connector
• 3.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)
• 2.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)
• Power status light
Sounds great and everything, but what's bothering me is this:
... (with in-line mic support)
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Since the connector is some extended one, will a standard 3.5 (say, standard headphones) fit well in it? I doubt it but wanted to ask anyway to be sure
Have you actually heard of a 3.5mm audio connector with a mic?
3,5 mm with mic in
Sure there is a 3,5 conneciton with mic.
I have a headset with 3,5 to my htc 7500.
/Magnus
ingenious said:
My question in about this sweetie over here:
I want to buy it to be able to listen to music in the car while navigating and charging. Here are the tech details from the expansys website:
Technical Details
• HTC ExtUSB standard headset connector
• Mini USB power connector
• 3.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)
• 2.5mm audio connector (with in-line mic support)
• Power status light
Sounds great and everything, but what's bothering me is this:
Since the connector is some extended one, will a standard 3.5 (say, standard headphones) fit well in it? I doubt it but wanted to ask anyway to be sure
Have you actually heard of a 3.5mm audio connector with a mic?
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I bought this one:
and I can confirm that it will charge, you can listen to the music coming from the TC (using the AUX from a car radio or plug a headset in the 3,5) and Tomtom navigation. Yours appears to me more sophisticated, since it has a 2 connectors with Mic input (wonder if the TC can handle that) and a power status light.
Here's the link to the item I bought: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product...oducts_id=6810
Sebulba_se said:
Sure there is a 3,5 conneciton with mic.
I have a headset with 3,5 to my htc 7500.
/Magnus
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Which miniUSB-to-3.5mm adapter do you use to get mic support?
Do you think this will work?
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Which miniUSB-to-3.5mm adapter do you use to get mic support?
Do you think this will work?
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That one is stereo output only. It does not include mic input.
I think both are similar, just the HTC one costs $20 while the one ---Alex--- got can be found for $4 in some stores. Do you really need 2.5 mic?
The HTC one is having some troubles, cuz when I asked HTC about it they said they haven't even tested it themselves. I guess only UK has made a few samples which is why the expansys expected date keeps 'slipping' and is always about 3-4wks away...
So, both multifunction cables support 3.5mm input with mic, while all others (incl. the single miniUSB-to-3.5mm) do not support a full headset with mic, right?
Getting either multifunction cable should be fine for a 3.5mm headset?
Yeah, well, after all I ordered this one:
from PDair. How fast does it ship to Germany, does anybody know?
ingenious said:
Yeah, well, after all I ordered this one:
from PDair. How fast does it ship to Germany, does anybody know?
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I received mine in less than 10 days, The Netherlands. However, it depends on customs as well. Once a large parcel was in the custom area for more than 2 weeks.
how is the audio quality from this cable? Will the audio coming from the car be in full stero with bass?
I bought one of the Car cradles for the HTC Touch, which has a mic jack on it. When i hooked it into my cars stero it sounded horrible... was mono sound i think and no bass at all.
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how is the audio quality from this cable? Will the audio coming from the car be in full stero with bass?
I bought one of the Car cradles for the HTC Touch, which has a mic jack on it. When i hooked it into my cars stero it sounded horrible... was mono sound i think and no bass at all.
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I think it's decent. But cannot tell judge the quality, because the audio system my car is not decent
Canadaka said:
how is the audio quality from this cable? Will the audio coming from the car be in full stero with bass?
I bought one of the Car cradles for the HTC Touch, which has a mic jack on it. When i hooked it into my cars stero it sounded horrible... was mono sound i think and no bass at all.
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It is full stereo. I adjust bass using the car radio controls, mine works excellent.
I was cheap, and also angered at HTC for not including a miniUSB -> 3.5/2.5mm adapter with the purchase of the device, so what I did was I modified the crap quality headphones that came with it, cut off the buds, and soldered the wires to a normal 3.5 mm cable so i could listen to it in my car.
The only trouble is that I can't charge and listen at the same time, So I guess I'll have to get one of these adapters.
I was even more pissed when I purchased a motorola miniUSB -> 2.5mm stereo and found it incompatible with HTC's miniUSB pinout. Guess I should have researched that before I bought it, oh well. Another thing that blows is that all the local stores only carry the motorola adapter, and not the HTC one. Figures.
II hate ordering things tho, cause they take so long to get here.. so I just said F it and cut/soldered so I could listen in my car with the AUX input in my dashboard until the one I just ordered comes .
BTW, I wasn't impressed with the design of the HTC or PDAir one, so I checked on google and ultimately came upon this one:
I just ordered it from http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
Hopefully it will come in a few days. Will update post with review of it once I receive it .
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I was cheap, and also angered at HTC for not including a miniUSB -> 3.5/2.5mm adapter with the purchase of the device, so what I did was I modified the crap quality headphones that came with it, cut off the buds, and soldered the wires to a normal 3.5 mm cable so i could listen to it in my car.
The only trouble is that I can't charge and listen at the same time, So I guess I'll have to get one of these adapters.
I was even more pissed when I purchased a motorola miniUSB -> 2.5mm stereo and found it incompatible with HTC's miniUSB pinout. Guess I should have researched that before I bought it, oh well. Another thing that blows is that all the local stores only carry the motorola adapter, and not the HTC one. Figures.
II hate ordering things tho, cause they take so long to get here.. so I just said F it and cut/soldered so I could listen in my car with the AUX input in my dashboard until the one I just ordered comes .
BTW, I wasn't impressed with the design of the HTC or PDAir one, so I checked on google and ultimately came upon this one:
I just ordered it from http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
Hopefully it will come in a few days. Will update post with review of it once I receive it .
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thats cool, this one smaller, cheaper and on sale. But the producr page doens't list the Touch does it? Looks like it will fit though.
Speakerphone - where can you find Alex' recommendation for $4? I'd really like to buy one that inexpensive.
Canadaka said:
thats cool, this one smaller, cheaper and on sale. But the producr page doens't list the Touch does it? Looks like it will fit though.
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All HTC devices have the same mini USB pinout (AFAIK -- I'm 99.9% sure of thise).
It has a bunch of HTC devices listed on the page, so I figure it will in fact work with the TC.
Also, the fact that the page says "Not compatible with Motorola Phones" is also indicitave that it will work for ALL HTC products.
I know this becuase I bought the motorola one at RadioShack and it did not work with the TC.
I researched it and found that the Motorola miniUSB pinout is in fact a little different than HTC's.
I will report back as soon as I get it.
The total price was somewhere around $8 and I'm scheduled to get it sometime next week before friday.
I like the design of that one because there is no cord; it just snaps right into the usb slot and doesn't "dangle" from the device.
Also, to answer your question about the audio quality...
My home made one works 100% perfectly in my car.
The quality is amazing. I have a 6 speaker Bose system in my car too
So if the quality was bad, I would definately be able to tell.
thanks for the info, it was very helpful.
I think the sound was crop in the car-holder i had because it had its own audio-out jack. I think I will order this as well, its worth a try for $8.
Wow, I ordered this on Saturday and it came on tuesday!...and I selected the 4-6 day shipping which was $2.50!...This is a great company, semsons & co, and the adapter is top notch...it snaps \ locks into place perfectly, and now i can charge and listen at the same time!
Go semsons & co!
Almost forgot, confirmed this work son the touch cruise, and also my old 6700..so it's like I said, i'm still pretty much positive that all HTC phones have the same mini-usb pinout.
A little off topic...but I was thinking about this today
My car has a bluetooth handsfree system, but obviously it only works for calls.
Does anyone know of a car radio \ system that has A2DP also?
...If so, that basically eliminates any need for a cable or adapter, besides the charger itself, unless you want to drain the battery .
I've searched and have come up with a couple different ones...but I'm unsure if any of them are good or not.
surgex0 said:
My car has a bluetooth handsfree system, but obviously it only works for calls.
Does anyone know of a car radio \ system that has A2DP also?
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Hi!
Today I will get delivered my new car, luckily it is without an original stereo. I bought a Sony MEX-BT2600 (~130€ in Austria) which includes BT Handsfree (built in Mic) and capable of receiving BT Audio Streaming.
I will post the next days if it works (I'm still not sure if that Sony and the TC can connect and use the BT protocol in the correct way ....)
rgds
Andi
Hi, I've been using my G1 since its release. I recently sold my iPod touch and am trying to replace it with my G1. I got an HTC adapter that plugs into the HTC mini usb and pushes to a: (1) Charging mini usb, (2) Headset Mini usb, (3) 2.5mm w/inline mic, and (4) 3.5mm w/inline mic. In my car I have one of those 3.5mm to tape deck adapters. The problem to which I can't find a hardware solution and hope to find a software solution is; When I plug in my "3.5mm/tape-deck" adapter to the 3.5mm of the HTC adapter when I receive calls the inline mic input gets pushed through to the "3.5mm/tape-deck" which then gets "dead-ended" in the tape player. I was wondering if there is a way I can override the mic input to stay on the built-in mic on my G1. Sorry if this doesn't make sense I'm doing my best to explain my problem. In theory this should be an easy fix, I think. I'll accept a hardware solution I suppuse but I'd prefer a software solution.
PS: I'm running CyanogenMod 4.2.14.1 So my phone is rooted and you can post root only solutions.
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Hi, I've been using my G1 since its release. I recently sold my iPod touch and am trying to replace it with my G1. I got an HTC adapter that plugs into the HTC mini usb and pushes to a: (1) Charging mini usb, (2) Headset Mini usb, (3) 2.5mm w/inline mic, and (4) 3.5mm w/inline mic. In my car I have one of those 3.5mm to tape deck adapters. The problem to which I can't find a hardware solution and hope to find a software solution is; When I plug in my "3.5mm/tape-deck" adapter to the 3.5mm of the HTC adapter when I receive calls the inline mic input gets pushed through to the "3.5mm/tape-deck" which then gets "dead-ended" in the tape player. I was wondering if there is a way I can override the mic input to stay on the built-in mic on my G1. Sorry if this doesn't make sense I'm doing my best to explain my problem. In theory this should be an easy fix, I think. I'll accept a hardware solution I suppuse but I'd prefer a software solution.
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it makes sense, its just that I have no knowledge of anything about cars at all! haha
I use this to my advantage and use it as an almost hands-free device.
I don't quite know what you mean by "dead-ends" in the tape player, it should just hold the music and have the call, then when it ends, the music starts back from the pause.
I think the amount of people that do that are greater than the people that want the music to play and talk on the phone at the same time.
You can always unplug the phone and pick it up if you want to talk like that, with that phone in your ear.
Thanks for all the responses. I think I need to clarify this. This is the adapter im using: (edit: I am not allowed to use outside links. well its the htc 4 in one adapter. Its like the first one that pops up when you google HTC 4 in one adapter)
My problem is that my 3.5mm/tape-deck adapter has only 2-rings but the mic is automatically routed through, as though I had a headset plugged into the 3.5mm port. So when someone calls I can only hear them and cannot speak into the mic even though there is a mic on the phone. The phone "thinks" that there is a mic that I can speak into. I need a way to force route the mic input to the embedded one, even while my tape-deck adapter is plugged in.
The ultimate goal of all this is so that I can do everything on my phone in my car without picking it up and thereby maximizing safety.
PS If you don't understand any of what I said just ask and I'll do my best to explain. I am using layman's terms.
The original works great
The original HTC wired headset comes as two pieces. The section connected to the handset has the mic and pause button on it. The earbuds that come with it are just standard 3.5mm stereo earbuds. You replace the earbuds with the jack from the cassette adapter and Bob's your uncle. I've tried it in my truck. I'm not using the cassette adapter but my stereo has an audio input jack on the front. (Same sort of thing) There is a little echo on the other end of the call. It's not bad though.
I have the original wire headset that came with the G1, it is a single piece unit. Can you post a link to your headset? I googled htc headset but couldn't come up with anything like you described.
edit: Found the wire headset for the AT&T Tilt. It has a mini USB plug and is a 2piece unit.
HTC changed the headset for the G1 after the launch. Originally it was just the headset with the htc proprietary end on it, then they released it with an adapter and 3.5mm headphones.
Unfortunatly for us Canadians, Rogers did not release the Dream with an adapter so we have to pay to use 3.5mm headphones.
I was recently handed a Nokia HF-510 to demo (http://www.nokiausa.com/find-produc...n-handsfree/nokia-display-speakerphone-hf-510)
It's a Bluetooth car speaker phone. The only down side was that the G1 doesn't support the Phonebook Access profile, so you couldn't browse your contacts from the speaker phone, but it's sound quality was excellent, and can be very loud so using it with the windows down while on the highway was very nice. The mic gets pretty good pickup, so no need to shout at the thing. I just didn't like the shape... kinda bulky, so stowing it away in the glove box wasn't really ideal.
Thoughts
Im pretty much is same boat as you..From ur explaination i believe you have this adapter..
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...On any donut or cupcake roms..the mic signal seems to be rerouted back to tape deck as u said...buttttt...when i had a hero or eclair rom installed..it used the mic on the g1 itself..whilest still utilizing car stereo..so maybe its something in the software..or drivers..hope this helps
I have found that my only solution is JupiterJack or something similar. Just like the tape adapter that you're using, but it's wireless. You set the radio to a dead station and it picks up the signal from the JupiterJack. Now, mind you, I have only tested with WinMo so I can't tell you for sure if the G1 will use it's built-in mic, or if it will search usb for a mic signal and assume there is a mic present on the usb port. This is probably a 1.5 flaw, and is -definitely- a software issue because I have seen 'hands-free' devices like JupiterJack that specifically say they're only compatible with 1.6+
I did a search but to no avail... please don't blame me if the topic already exists
I bought a Urbanears headphone which had a headset device (mic and button) included but Neo would not support the 3-channel 3.5 plug ('Accessory not support' message jumps out) and I had to plug a stereo adapter (2-channel 3.5 plug) to make the headphone work, but only for music.
I am wondering if the 'not support' issue is a hardware problem or a software problem? I thought it was unlikely for the former because the 3.5mm format should be just the same for all headset (Urbanears claims it is compatible with most device except those with restrictions, say, SE ), so I guess it was SE putting some software restriction on headsets other than its own brand. So if this assumption is true is there a way for a rooted device to overcome this restriction and use the mic and control on the headset (headphone) ?
Thanks a lot
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
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Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®
Thanks K4L very much, I know where to get an adapter but I just hope there would be an easier way around:/ now I have to get an ugly adapter though I love my Urbanrars so much thank you again for the detailed explanation
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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it is possible to use any headphone, because at the board there is what they called switching transistor, but for more functionality use active headphones...
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Ardbeq said:
I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.
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i will try it if there is a possible i will explain it how it will works....
So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??
wska said:
So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??
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Well... if they don't have a mic or controls, it should work perfectly yes. ANY 3.5mm earphones/headphones without a mic or controls will work.
Howeveeeeeeer... if they're called "iBeats" it sounds like it's a headset for iPhones. Make sure you buy the Beats without mic/controls.
skullcandy ink'd mic'd doesn't work
How I wish I had come across this thread before buying the skullcandy Mic'd headset. It is not working on my neo and I get accessory not supported message. I have been looking all night and was not able to find a suitable adapter. Can anyone here provide a link or suggest where I can get one? so that I don't end up buying the wrong one
K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Thanks man that is such a useful info provided by you...
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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Sony changed from Sony Ericsson to just Sony (they also changed the headset to work just like htc and galaxy s line)
So urbeats , htc beats solo and sony smart headset should work on the 3 brands
Hello all,
Thought i will just add on to this post. My friend has a SE Neo V on android 2.3.4 stock and had this same issue with a 3rd party earphones (believe it was Creative and TDK).
We tried downloading this app/widget toggleheadset2 from google play and it helped with playback of sound to the 3rd party earphones. Sound quality is acceptable.
However for the FM radio it is a bit harder as it needs to detect earphones plugged in before starting but not impossible to get working
1. Make sure toggleheadset2 widget is on
2. in the home screen , plug in your headset and immediately press and hold on the volume up/down button. the accessory not supported button will pop up on screen. click ok and then let go of the volume button.
3. FM Radio apps should work then, if it fails you will need to repeat the process again.
Well this is what we found out and got our neo v to work with a 3rd party headset. Hopefully this will help someone else.
I tried urbeats ( not ibeats which is iPhone version )
On htc phones
Samsung galaxy tab and s 2
Nokia lumia
All three buttons work on them
Htc Nokia lumia samsung galaxy
And Sony headset (not Sony Ericsson) all have same type of 3.5 jack
A lot of manufacturers seem to have move to one standard 3.5 jack
I've got a Tiger with mic earphones and it works with toggleheadset2 but the sound is no good until I press the mic button. Afaik, it's an opensource app.
Is there any way to set the app properly in order to get the earphones work correctly?
I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben
BenEadir said:
I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben
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While searching i also found this on ebay, but it's larger and more expensive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-TRRS-...499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6f3e9ddb
I've been waiting a couple of days for a reply from these guys(lunashops) to a question i asked them. Until they actually get back to me i thought it best to move the link further down. I'm about to order this one myself http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-1073.html . Got that link from a post on Headfi by ClieOS
taaviu said:
Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®
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desire sv's headphone works great with xperia p.
Hi I found a pair of USB type C to 3.5 mm headphone jack adapters on amazon, and i plug it into the HTC U11 and before i even plug the headphones in it says this accessory is not supported.
I have headphones all over the place and I want a few adapters to leave on them so I don't have to carry one around with me.
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
grafik2 said:
Hi I found a pair of USB type C to 3.5 mm headphone jack adapters on amazon, and i plug it into the HTC U11 and before i even plug the headphones in it says this accessory is not supported.
I have headphones all over the place and I want a few adapters to leave on them so I don't have to carry one around with me.
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
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It's not working because there is no Amp/DAC in it.
Just the original HTC will work.
Unsure what you're asking me.
HTC only sent one pair, where can I get more that will work as I said I have multiple headphones
grafik2 said:
Unsure what you're asking me.
HTC only sent one pair, where can I get more that will work as I said I have multiple headphones
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In Europe they are available on the HTC webshop.
Why you just unplug each time you want to swap?
grafik2 said:
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
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Buy a few extra OEM adapters. Can't make 3rd party ones work.
*justintime* said:
In Europe they are available on the HTC webshop.
Why you just unplug each time you want to swap?
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Just because I have a pair of headphones in my truck, gym bag, at my office and at home. The ones online are cheap I thought for a few bucks I could have adapted all my headphones instead of having to carry one around!
Those cheap ones won't do. Buy them officially from HTC. Send the Amazon ones back for a refund.
Any idea on what options you have for spares in countries HTC does not not offer the adapter for sale (Australia for example)
Anyone want to trade their adapter for my headphones? I have never liked the earbud style I cannot get them to stay in my ears I would rather use the over ear headphones I already have but want more adapters
Adapter cost 13e and shipping 26e Wtf htc
HTC won't ship from UK store to US.... US is sold out. This sucks
grafik2 said:
Anyone want to trade their adapter for my headphones? I have never liked the earbud style I cannot get them to stay in my ears I would rather use the over ear headphones I already have but want more adapters
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I recommend the Griffin iTrip. Its a Bluetooth receiver and easy to setup. Sound quality is good. Its cheap as well. https://griffintechnology.com/intl/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
Speedwizard said:
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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So with this app it works with usb c generic audio adapters? Is that a paid feature or did it just work by default? Thanks!
Toyeboy said:
So with this app it works with usb c generic audio adapters? Is that a paid feature or did it just work by default? Thanks!
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Yes! Works fine with cheap USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. I use it on my U Ultra, that come with no adapter in package.
I bought the Pro key, that´s enable other type of output. Is this case. just select "Wired headset with Mic"
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Speedwizard said:
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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Okay thanks!
Speedwizard said:
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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Do you know how this works. Is SoundAbout a DAC what exactly is it? I am asking because I got the Pixel 2 and it does not have a analog out like The HTC Bolt or HTC U11
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Do you know how this works. Is SoundAbout a DAC what exactly is it? I am asking because I got the Pixel 2 and it does not have a analog out like The HTC Bolt or HTC U11
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It works. I can only suppose how it do it. Routing outputs. As U Ultra and U11 have analog output over USB-C, it route output to USB-C pins and you will have an analog output with analog quality. The DAC will works on board. I can say that quality differences between original HTC adapter with DAC and a generic with soundabout are minimal.
That´s it. It Work.
I bought this because I had an U Ultra before and it come with no HTC adapter and I love my 3.5mm phones.
Speedwizard said:
It works. I can only suppose how it do it. Routing outputs. As U Ultra and U11 have analog output over USB-C, it route output to USB-C pins and you will have an analog output with analog quality. The DAC will works on board. I can say that quality differences between original HTC adapter with DAC and a generic with soundabout are minimal.
That´s it. It Work.
I bought this because I had an U Ultra before and it come with no HTC adapter and I love my 3.5mm phones.
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Oh so then the U11 is different then the Pixel 2 then as it puts out digital out on USB-C only.
anzenketh said:
Oh so then the U11 is different then the Pixel 2 then as it puts out digital out on USB-C only.
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Maybe Pixel 2 doesn´t have analog output over USB-C or it´s blocked. Think that if you have speakers, you have an DAC onboard to convert digital to that analog speakers.
Have you tested SoundAbout and nothing happens? Even routing to different options? Or another adapter? on U11 an U Ultra I´ve tested on many types of adapters, including original Moto Z and all works fine.
But I don ´t have a Pixel 2 to test. (HTC and Pixels are rare on Brazil)
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I bought this adapter to be able to use my senheiser headset, but the smartphone does not allow me, says that this adapter cannot be used "The USB device is not compatible".
It is from a consolidated brand, Gorilashield.
Can someone help me? Is there any way to unlock to be used?
Does the adapter contain active DAC converter?
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Does the adapter contain active DAC converter?
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I dont know
I bought NILLKIN HIFI DAC Earphone Amplifier Type-C to 3.5mm from China and it is working fine on my Samsung S20 Exynos.
Nillkin Type-C to 3.5mm HiFi DAC Amplifier Pro Review
Is it worth spending money on Type-C to 3.5mm adapters with DACs or go for a standard adapter? Which are the best Type-C to 3.5mm Adapters with DACs and without DACs?
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You simply need USB-C to Jack cable but with DAC.
More explanation (copied from web):
Active vs. Passive USB-C
The biggest problem with USB-C audio is its lack of standardization, which is ironic considering USB-C’s purpose is to standardize USB connection types. The problem lies not with the USB-C specification, but with the companies that design smartphones, dongles, and headphones. Here’s why this can be such a confusing mess: (Note that the remainder of this article will only reference USB-C headphones. Keep in mind that the same principles apply to USB-C dongles as well.)
Some smartphones send audio data through an onboard DAC (usually embedded in the phone’s processor) before sending it out through the USB-C port. If this is the case, almost any pair of USB-C headphones will work. If the audio stream is converted to an analog signal before it goes through the USB-C port, then connected headphones do not need their own DAC. These are known as “passive” headphones.
However, some devices send audio data through the USB-C port as a digital signal. As such, connected headphones will need their own onboard DAC and amp to convert the audio stream from a digital format to an analog format. USB-C headphones with an onboard DAC/amp combination are known as “active” headphones.
5ta1da said:
I bought NILLKIN HIFI DAC Earphone Amplifier Type-C to 3.5mm from China and it is working fine on my Samsung S20 Exynos.
Nillkin Type-C to 3.5mm HiFi DAC Amplifier Pro Review
Is it worth spending money on Type-C to 3.5mm adapters with DACs or go for a standard adapter? Which are the best Type-C to 3.5mm Adapters with DACs and without DACs?
www.pickybeast.com
You simply need USB-C to Jack cable but with DAC.
More explanation (copied from web):
Active vs. Passive USB-C
The biggest problem with USB-C audio is its lack of standardization, which is ironic considering USB-C’s purpose is to standardize USB connection types. The problem lies not with the USB-C specification, but with the companies that design smartphones, dongles, and headphones. Here’s why this can be such a confusing mess: (Note that the remainder of this article will only reference USB-C headphones. Keep in mind that the same principles apply to USB-C dongles as well.)
Some smartphones send audio data through an onboard DAC (usually embedded in the phone’s processor) before sending it out through the USB-C port. If this is the case, almost any pair of USB-C headphones will work. If the audio stream is converted to an analog signal before it goes through the USB-C port, then connected headphones do not need their own DAC. These are known as “passive” headphones.
However, some devices send audio data through the USB-C port as a digital signal. As such, connected headphones will need their own onboard DAC and amp to convert the audio stream from a digital format to an analog format. USB-C headphones with an onboard DAC/amp combination are known as “active” headphones.
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