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Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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Resale will suck for any note 7...no way around that.
No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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force70 said:
Resale will suck for any note 7...no way around that.
No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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They should do like the S7 and S7 Edge, buy 1 get 1 free... sell the fixed devices and honor there guarantee as if it were new,
I'm not too worried about the resale point if view but the one thing that does concern me is if Sammy see it as a failed device and lower or even drop support for it such as bug fixes and updates.
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I'm not too worried about the resale point if view but the one thing that does concern me is if Sammy see it as a failed device and lower or even drop support for it such as bug fixes and updates.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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See I'm still on the fence it is such a great device and I can't see a decent alternative. I already own the s7 edge (promised to my wife) and as a lot of us was really looking forward to the note 7. See mine is on order not replacement so I can cancel any time but what else is there to match the note series. I been given a new del date of 29 Oct. Guess I can see how this rollercoaster goes for the next few weeks.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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Same boat as you I will be due for another jump in no time and not sure if will stay on the note 7. Won't be surprise if it does not see a lick of update
Guys, i've been struggling with the same thoughts this week. I've come to the conclusion that there is simply no phone on the market that can match the Note 7 overall. This phone is the most beautiful, well designed and functional device on the market right now. Any other phone would feel like a downgrade for me. Of course, i could get the Oneplus 3 and wait another year or so for the Note 8 which i'm sure will be a beast, but i will miss the Note 7 and the Gear VR so much, it's really not worth it for me. This device meets every need i have.
Regarding the software, here's my conclusion. Samsung has huge credibility issues and big financial losses due to the recall.
However, buyers of the Samsung Note line of phones are the most pretentious, loyal and enthusiastic of all Samsung clients. Samsung cannot afford to let Note 7 buyers down. In the long run, abandoning the Note 7 is a bad decision. Instead, i believe Samsung will have a big Note 7 relaunch with lots of marketing, we will possibly see new software features, a fast and stable Nougat update, Daydream VR support, possibly a Note 7 Plus (6GB+128GB) launch in December, and anything possible that will keep people talking about Samsung and Note 7 in a positive light.
I choose to believe this, and if i will be let down i probably won't ever buy another flagship again.
What else am I going to buy though? There's still nothing else that has a stylus and is worth looking at.
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What else am I going to buy though? There's still nothing else that has a stylus and is worth looking at.
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Thats the problem.
I will be using my note 4 until something comes along....
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Hopefully they will make a special offer (low cost) to us when the note 8 arrives?
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No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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People have trusted Honda after the Takata airbag debacle. They also came back to Audi after their unintended acceleration disaster. People still fly AA even though 251 people were killed in Chicago due to sloppy maintenance. GM just had their best year ever after going through bankruptcy and covering up an ignition switch defect that killed 124 people. VW will be fine after intentionally cheating on emissions tests. Samsung will be fine too. There's always some short term impact from these types of things but strong brands power through them.
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People have trusted Honda after the Takata airbag debacle. They also came back to Audi after their unintended acceleration disaster. People still fly AA even though 251 people were killed in Chicago due to sloppy maintenance. GM just had their best year ever after going through bankruptcy and covering up an ignition switch defect that killed 124 people. VW will be fine after intentionally cheating on emissions tests. Samsung will be fine too. There's always some short term impact from these types of things but strong brands power through them.
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Oh no doubt they will carry on, most certainly wont ruin them but this is a big deal no way around it.
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Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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The price and specs are great. The rom/root community is okay size. Build quality is trash. Don't buy this phone. With a little more money you could buy the One Plus 3T or One Plus 5. Better specs, build quality, rom/root, etc.
My next phone is Note 8 or One plus 3T or 5. I am not trying to bash phone. Just giving you an honest opinion. Look through the threads you will see tons of people with GPS, Backlight Bleed, bootloop issues, etc. I love LG, but will be my last LG phone for a long time.
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I'm looking to get the H850 for my mom since it is only $300CAD if I get my friend to bring it back from Hong Kong. Can't find any another phone in that price range that would be better than the LG G5 H850...
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
I can't agree about bad quality of build. I would say its very good comparing to what else you can meet nowadays.
Other than that, it's one of the best phones available for 250$ on B&H (Titan) if not the only good one.
Yeah not sure about other countries, but in Canada it's hard to beat the LG G5. OnePlus 3T/5 are $600/$650CAD+tax respectively and the G5 can be found for $330-370 all in. Even 2016 mid-range phones like the Axon 7 and Honor 8 are $400-$500+tax.
Build quality isn't up to par with other flagships, but it's not terrible IMO. At least it's better than most mid-range phones.
It is a lottery phone.
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It is a lottery phone.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
Build quality is pretty bad guys sorry. I've had plenty of low/Mid/High end of phones. I've never seen this many issues as this one. When I see GPS and backlight bleed threads filled with countless complaints. Yeah that's bad build quality.
Damiloveu statement pretty much sums it up right it's a lottery phone. 50/50 hit or miss, be for warned potential new g5 buyers. GREAT phone if no issues. And if it does have problems many headaches await you.
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Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
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I would install Fulmics on the LG G5 if I can get it for my mom, so the RS988 is out of the question for me. I just cannot buy phones if I cannot install custom ROMs on it. I hate being at the mercy of manufacturers for software updates.
I'm so confused as to why manufacturers cannot just sell one or two variant of the same phone. Making dozens of variants seems so stupid.
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
Thanks a lot, everybody. I think I'll get this phone, it features literally *every* feature I need on a device.
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coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
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I got a used AT&T H820 and it had the GPS issue, especially worse when cloudy and rainy. However, I returned the AT&T one and got an unlocked RS988 and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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If you need a hot swappable battery, the G5 is great.
If you game a lot, and want the ability to do so without remaining plugged in and burning up your phone, then the G5 is perfect for you.
As far as performance, no issues whatsoever.
Battery life is average, but with the ability to swap out new batteries and charge dead ones outside the phone in a charging port, you honestly don't have battery downtime. It's just always up.
That's the biggest advantage of this phone.
If you're looking for a better deal, you don't need unlimited battery life, or you're looking for a rich featureset, I would look elsewhere.
The gps is absolute wank and I don't have the time or inclination to do a hardware fix. I did a quick comparison with my friend who owns an OP3 indoors; his had gps lock with 15 seconds but mine was still searching after several minutes. In fact, I have almost missed turnings when driving a few times because of this POS. I never replace my phone until it has had 18 months usage but for the G5, I will make an exception.
I have LG G5 since April 2016 after my Note 3 : no root or anything, LG updates regulary.
I never have problems with it.
-No bootloop, no GPS bugs, a better reception with the same carrier...
-Camera is really good, especially the large wide-angle.
-Battery life: a day with a little use (waze to go work -one hour/day) wifi on, "always on display" always activate, some internet at evening : Facebook, Twitter, insta, mails...
-IR for soundbar, tv is really good !!
But no SPen ? So I will get the Note 8, really great for work, with the camera options easier than LG suit.
And finally, i prefer Samsung environment, even if G5 is really a good phone.
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It's not worth the broken GPS sensors which are a known hardware defect. They'll fix it for you, but it's never the root of the problem so it will come back. I've sent mine in 3 times, GPS works for a couple days, then ceases to work again. Terrible quality control, by far the worst phone I've owned. My Galaxy S4 was better.
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Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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yeep, my biggest regret were i didnt read much about lg g5, infact i read too many about it so i skip the most important things. from what i gather around the web, g5 has 2 version. G5 and g5 SE. the g5 has snap820, 4gb ram and single sim, while g5 SE had snap 625, 3GB ram and dualsim. i use 2 simcard one for main use and another for data connection. and h860 has both advantages from 2 g5 version, snap 820/4gb ram and Dualsim support. i didnt bother to check on XDA for root method as i though it just the same as samsung or HTC, even with many varian usually all of them has the same exploit. i never though i would be so wrong on my life . and for the HTC part, well what can i say, here in indonesia we didnt have official HTC service centre so if we had a malfunction devices we just need to fix it on our own . same goes to LG G5 since the only one that they sold here were g5 SE, some friend of mine already bought g5 from singapore last year and when his screen broke he sent it to LG centre but they refuse it, they said the only accept g5 SE. so i'm totally aware when i bought those devices, i cant rely on warranty or official services. and its not the first time, usually lot of devices which sold here were downgraded version comparing to international one. like
note 3 on international version they had snap801 and lte support while official one the had stupid exynoss and 3g only. same goes with Note 5 snapdragon inter vs exynoss local, and also xiaomi devices, huawei, and many other brands which i dont remember anymore. thats why, many people here usually bought new/second hand devices from another country because they want to feel the real experience while also acknowledge they cant bring it to official service centre when it broke later.
Hell no.
Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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I went with a SM-N950N (Korean Note 8) to have root
Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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I had a N920T T-Mobile USA Note 5, the last Exynos Samsung for the US. Once I heard S7 had locked bootloaders, I knew I would have to buy International/Exynos from going forward. Sucks having to do so initially but more than well worth it for me, couldn't be happier.
With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
I went from Note 3 to Note 7, back to a used Note 4, and now the Note 8 for the last 6 months. I'm not rooted and I really don't miss root for much. Battery life is pretty amazing on the Note 8. I like Samsung UI, so with the Note 3 & 4 I always stuck with touchwiz roms. It's nice having a more current version of Android with the Samsung Experience. The Note 8's not perfect, but I definitely don't miss the Note 4.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back??. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back?. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
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I think OP means they have broken fingers so thinner S-Pen is harder and virtually impossible to use
I upgrade from my N910C to a N950N due to the fact that my N910C was starting to drop LTE signals randomly. I have to say I am loving my N950N. It is probably my best purchase of the year. I thought that I would hate not havinv physical buttons. But I quickly gotten use to having soft buttons. Not having a removable battery is my main grip with the latest Samsung devices. But I can easily get 2 days battery life out of my N950N with moderate use. I haven't notice any performance issues since the upgrade to Oreo. Performance has been butterly smoothy. I love the iris scanner, it even works in direct sunlight. The placement of the fingerprint scanner is not as bad as I thought it would be.
Seriously 4 S-pens? man the 2nd pen break must have made u smarter. I have used all the Notes except 2 & 7(they stopped the launch in India)
Never broken a pen, a tip damaged due to dropping it, but never broken, and even on the Note 5, never inserted it the wrong way. And I am a very prolific user of the S-Pen.
The battery isnt so bad, ofcourse would appreciate better life, but thats a not a deal breaker. And also the physical buttons, never really missed them, since the Tab series really lost them in 2012.
I would say that Note 8 Exynos rooted and Dr.Ketan Rom+Pro Tweaks is the optimal combo imo. Everything is optimized, battery is great, no bloatware..... etc etc etc
I too have made the leap from a N910a to the note 8. Being that I'm coming from the notorious "you'll never get root on our phone, EVER" from AT&T having root PERIOD was a game changer. With that said, I do miss the IR blaster although alot of the time I'd forget it was there lol. I had my note 4 for nearly 3 years - longest I've ever had a phone and not had something happen i.e. dropping it.
So root was a HUGE deal for me to have, so I may be a bit biased in that area but as others have touched on, for real how did you manage to break not 1, not 2, or 3 but FOUR spens?! If it were 1 I'd say contact them for possibly poor workmanship, no offense but it seems like it's on the user end in this instance. As far as features the Note 8 has root aside, waterproof (or water RESISTANT as it technically really is lol) Another game changer. For over a year I had no working speaker due to having just moving into new apt and first night using it as Hotspot I had no idea sprinklers came on and shat water onto my rear patio. My own fault, but nonetheless very VERY comforting knowing if I ever screwed up in that area, it wouldn't be an issue. That alone with all our own user end mishaps is arguably a MUST HAVE.
The 80 pct limit isn't really that bad, if you must charge it to 100 pct there is always the download mode workaround, but if we are taking straight user friendliness,I could see it being a thing to do it everytime one charged. Raw power over the note 4 is and has to be something that anyone would notice immediately. I have a gear vr and while the note 4 fit, it always was outperformed by my note 8 when I tested them back to back.
I DO miss the removable battery (price to pay for water resistance I suppose) and am not looking forward to when it starts to show signs of aging and needs replaced. There are options I've found that help, like a portable power bank. Although with my use I really don't see much of a difference between when I was stock compared to now, so that wasn't and isn't anything I ever complain about knowing up front that was the price of admission if I wanted root. I still have my note 4 but honestly it just sits along side of my other devices of yesteryear collecting dust.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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time to sell it and opt for another device
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If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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So you can root the Note 8? (US version or only international vesion?) and rooting limits battery to 80% only?
You can root both models, but with snapdragons, the batt only charges up to 80%, I read about this here XDA, I dont know if there is some patch or workaround for it, as I have an stock Exynos 950F 128GB
so i already saved up and was going to buy the Pocophone but people on random groups keep saying that it has a ton of issues and the company is just gonna pull it out of the market, so did anyone face major issues or problem during the his/her usage of the phone?
It's a great phone for very little money, go with unlocked bootloader and install xiaomi.eu rom and you won't regret it.
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so i already saved up and was going to buy the Pocophone but people on random groups keep saying that it has a ton of issues and the company is just gonna pull it out of the market, so did anyone face major issues or problem during the his/her usage of the phone?
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thank
Zeggi said:
It's a great phone for very little money, go with unlocked bootloader and install xiaomi.eu rom and you won't regret it.
Skickat från min POCOPHONE F1 via Tapatalk
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and did you face any major issues during your time using it or it was fine? i`d appreciate more feedback
No problems at all, only satisfactions.
Awesome phone for a great price.
I bought Red Color less than a month ago.
No any issuesl so far.
And the phone is even more beautiful in real than you see it on YouTube reviees
Just purchased this phone coming tmrw
Looks promising
US user here. I got the Poco F1 last week, and the only issues have been bloatware, which can be removed is you have the know how, compatible screen protectors and cases. My unit doesn't have detectable screen bleeding at the bottom. Overall, this phone has been a great buy and other than more LTE bands for the US (getting abysmal 3mbps or less download and maybe half that for upload) I cant ask for much more than what they've given since I have wifi most places i go.
iHookar said:
so i already saved up and was going to buy the Pocophone but people on random groups keep saying that it has a ton of issues and the company is just gonna pull it out of the market, so did anyone face major issues or problem during the his/her usage of the phone?
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It's a great phone, When I was going for it I had my doubts that if I need to pick this or Mi 8 and I thought there will be some corner cuts to make it possible but there wasn't and for $300 I haven't seen any flaw, Yes some units are faulty like screen bleeding or some touch issue ( which seems to be a software ) but overall this phone is offering much more than its price range and overall I'm happy with my purchase.
It is a generation 1 product of a start-up company so expect bugs in its software. You should know that you are investing more on hardware than its software, the software improvements will come later but to tell you, the updates and fixes were not that fast like Apple-update patch fast but it is definitely better on Samsungs top-of-the-line midrange. This is what I noticed with Xiaomi devices that I've owned. If you want slightly faster updates then buy Mi flagship of Xiaomi for better priority on Software Development or else consider buying Honor or Nokia 8, weigh them based on your needs, NOT based onhow much money you can shell-out.
One of the best reviews to watch for were from JerryRigEverything, GSMArena Reviews and Notebookcheck (I like notebook check reviews). Do your own homework to make your expectations real and NOT hyped.
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It is a generation 1 product of a start-up company so expect bugs in its software. You should know that you are investing more on hardware than its software, the software improvements will come later but to tell you, the updates and fixes were not that fast like Apple-update patch fast but it is definitely better on Samsungs top-of-the-line midrange. This is what I noticed with Xiaomi devices that I've owned. If you want slightly faster updates then buy Mi flagship of Xiaomi for better priority on Software Development or else consider buying Honor or Nokia 8, weigh them based on your needs, NOT based onhow much money you can shell-out.
One of the best reviews to watch for were from JerryRigEverything, GSMArena Reviews and Notebookcheck (I like notebook check reviews). Do your own homework to make your expectations real and NOT hyped.
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thats awesome, thanks a lot
also i just care about the processing power tbh, i have a DSLR for my photography needs and i don`t need cameras that much, same for the build i`ll just slap a skin
software bugs are everywhere thats fine for me, but i heard some faulty batteries, screens, touch delays and so on, thats why i wanted to make sure before buying from actual users of the phone
thanks a lot guys <3
Have serious problems with the built-in mic (not tested with headset).
Try using a video call app like Line App, place the phone in front of you facing the front camera towards you so the other person can see you. That works, but the other person can't hear you, and the sound stream is interrupted with sections skipped.
Possibly due to the noise cancellation (ro.qc.sdk.audio fluence), bad MIUI software version, bad mic hardware(bad component model in the entire production batch), bad... you name it.
Need root, custom rom, build.prop etc file editing, remove mic dust protection hw component, etc...
Really disappointed about this, hope they can fix it with a simple OTA upgrade, but it's really annoying.
Also Xiaomi seems to refuse openly cooperating with companies like Teamviewer to support remote control for support applications, etc. They said it was open and developer friendly ?
I've been wondering whether to buy this device or not. I want to ask an experienced person. Will this device become popular in the custom community? I am looking forward to it being able to have countless custom ROMs like Redmi Note 7 series poco F1
I hope so.
I'm waiting to see which device to get. I like Xiaomi devices I hate the software.
None of the other manufacturers/ODM have the combo this has.
Good processor
rear or side fingerprint (optical is just useless)
Bootlocker unlock
Xiaomi.eu ( love hate with that. At least it's a custom rom -ish)
I wish there was a pop up camera.
Even I am waiting for it to become popular, OnePlus phones just aren't worth it anymore. I hope this gets popular soon, as soon as there is a working twrp available, I will go ahead and buy this phone.
The problem with Xiaomi is that they just make way too many phones. So it's difficult to get devs to get interested.
I think the Poco F3 has the best chance
People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
Nobody is making any custom kernels/ROMs that I'm aware of for Mi11 or Redmi K40 Pro Plus. I sold mine (888 throttles too much, bad Qualcomm design, way too OC'd for consistent performance). Sorry for the bad news - most people are ditching their 888s in the Lineage group that I was in and they gave up on a fundraiser for it. Just these phones run way too hot and the chip is not properly configured (they tried to push it TOO FAR).... Even though the Mi11 is probably the most popular 888 out there, I only see development on OnePlus 9 / Pro series. Hate to be the spoiler here.
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People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
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The issue with Vivo is they don't follow the GPL = no source code bro.
Just now, it is launched in India ( mi 11xpro ) and still people haven't receive devices yet, I am sure more people will be joining soon in some months.
If you stuck with Xiaomi well, I have no idea if any custom ROMs will be released. If so they are probably floating around China somewhere...