Kernel auditor reports big and little cores? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hay guys,
For some reason, my Redmi note 4 reports big and little core in kernel auditor, correct me if I am wrong but, as far as I am aware this device is not built on the big and little arcetecture?
If not then why is kernel auditor report that it is?
Kind regards

Yes, snapdragon 625 using big.LITTLE configuration, but the different is they used Cortex-A53 for both. Correct me if I wrong though.
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Oh, just did some reading on arm website, Cortex-A53 just up to 4 cores. So its absolutely big.LITTLE configuration.
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No, Snapdragon 625 does not implement the big.LITTLE architecture, as all eight cores are the same A53 design clocked from 652 MHz to 2 Ghz. The A53 is usually used as the LITTLE part of the package and complemented by more powerful A57 or A72 cores, or a group of the same A53 cores but clocked separately and at a significantly higher frequency.

DTSI analyze shows that SD625 actually has 2 A53 CPUs clocked at the same frequency, so it's completely normal to expect some kernel tuning or CPU monitoring apps to report big + LITTLE cores although it's not HMP.
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Ok thanks for that, is it normal to see cpu load differs from one lot or cores to the other?

HatchetEgg said:
Hay guys,
For some reason, my Redmi note 4 reports big and little core in kernel auditor, correct me if I am wrong but, as far as I am aware this device is not built on the big and little arcetecture?
If not then why is kernel auditor report that it is?
Kind regards
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Which ROM do u use? Did u ever flash a custom kernel?
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nilanko said:
Which ROM do u use? Did u ever flash a custom kernel?
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Yes I'm using elecrablue kernel and AEX
However I have flashed different ROMS even stock ROMS, with complete wipe and still reports Big. Little cores.

HatchetEgg said:
Yes I'm using elecrablue kernel and AEX
However I have flashed different ROMS even stock ROMS, with complete wipe and still reports Big. Little cores.
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Same problem here. I flashed velvet kernel on MIUI 8.2.10.0 and then Kernel Adiutor started reporting big LITTLE. I wiped everything and flashed stock ROM using MIFLASH which flashes all partitions, kernel and everything. But kernel adiutor still reports big LITTLE. It never reported big LITTLE before I had flashed custom kernel. Snapdragon 625 doesn't implement big LITTLE because all cores are same A53 with same clock of 2GHz.
This is bothersome because now I have noticed that the BIG cluster is always in use with CPU usage shooting up on performing any task (it has the cores 4, 5, 6, 7) whereas the LITTLE cluster (cores 0, 1, 2, 3) are mostly at 0% CPU usage and are sitting idle. Only 4 cores are being used most of the time. And as a result, I have started experiencing lags..
Don't tell me big.LITTLE is great and all that. I know what it is but it was never there on my phone. Now it is there and I can't get rid of it. And it is slowing down my phone making it laggy!

nilanko said:
Same problem here. I flashed velvet kernel on MIUI 8.2.10.0 and then Kernel Adiutor started reporting big LITTLE. I wiped everything and flashed stock ROM using MIFLASH which flashes all partitions, kernel and everything. But kernel adiutor still reports big LITTLE. It never reported big LITTLE before I had flashed custom kernel. Snapdragon 625 doesn't implement big LITTLE because all cores are same A53 with same clock of 2GHz.
This is bothersome because now I have noticed that the BIG cluster is always in use with CPU usage shooting up on performing any task (it has the cores 4, 5, 6, 7) whereas the LITTLE cluster (cores 0, 1, 2, 3) are mostly at 0% CPU usage and are sitting idle. Only 4 cores are being used most of the time. And as a result, I have started experiencing lags..
Don't tell me big.LITTLE is great and all that. I know what it is but it was never there on my phone. Now it is there and I can't get rid of it. And it is slowing down my phone making it laggy!
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Yes this is mainly why I am concernd about it. As all core are not fully utilitised.
And our device is not disigned for Big.Little cores as they are all the same. I am just hoping maybe someone will know exactly what it is thats causing this issue for us. So we can resolve it.

HatchetEgg said:
Yes this is mainly why I am concernd about it. As all core are not fully utilitised.
And our device is not disigned for Big.Little cores as they are all the same. I am just hoping maybe someone will know exactly what it is thats causing this issue for us. So we can resolve it.
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I guess the custom kernels are making some change somewhere that is not being changed even after flashing stock ROM. What modifications do custom kernels make? They write the boot partition. They also make changes to the system partition (push modules). But both of these are over-written upon flashing stock ROM. What else is modified by custom kernels? Any idea anyone?
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This problem is serious and I was about to create a new thread about this problem when I found this thread. But seems like it's gonna die. Please someone shed some light. My phone is running on 4 cores most of the time now [emoji24] It's kinda lagging!
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@HatchetEgg can you try flashing a Xiaomi.eu ROM, root it and then check kernel adiutor and see if it still reports big little?
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nilanko said:
This problem is serious and I was about to create a new thread about this problem when I found this thread. But seems like it's gonna die. Please someone shed some light. My phone is running on 4 cores most of the time now [emoji24] It's kinda lagging!
@HatchetEgg can you try flashing a Xiaomi.eu ROM, root it and then check kernel adiutor and see if it still reports big little?
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Yer I did try this, but it still reports big and little cores.

HatchetEgg said:
Yer I did try this, but it still reports big and little cores.
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Ugh. I too installed miui pro rom but still reports big little but this time the cores 1,2,3,4 are active and the rest are sitting idle [emoji52] I think there's something wrong with /sys/
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nilanko said:
Ugh. I too installed miui pro rom but still reports big little but this time the cores 1,2,3,4 are active and the rest are sitting idle [emoji52] I think there's something wrong with /sys/
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That was what I was thinking, however i'm not sure what to do here. Since the flash files don't contain the sys folder.

HatchetEgg said:
That was what I was thinking, however i'm not sure what to do here. Since the flash files don't contain the sys folder.
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I think that sys/ is not over written even after flashing stock rom. There are certain things which aren't flashed even after using miflash, for example the persist partition. I guess this sys/ is also one of them [emoji52]
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P.s. I'm on miui pro rom and I'm not facing those lags anymore. Really don't understand how to resolve that problem on stock rom
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I personally do not prefer to so much on custom kernels and so on. Years of experience with phones, if the phone hardware is good, it will be as is. If the custom rom is good, it is good as is too. Applying governors is never been my preference since. My point is, I'm having the RR, and just with its stock kernel. If it ain't spoil, don't fix it. My 2 cents

precsmo said:
I personally do not prefer to so much on custom kernels and so on. Years of experience with phones, if the phone hardware is good, it will be as is. If the custom rom is good, it is good as is too. Applying governors is never been my preference since. My point is, I'm having the RR, and just with its stock kernel. If it ain't spoil, don't fix it. My 2 cents
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I need kcal for improving colors on my mido display because the display sucks. That's the only reason I need custom kernel.
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[KERNEL] [3.1.10] [[email protected]/OV/BFQ/smartassv2/init.d] Atlantis R2

This is my first kernel build ever (not just for the Nexus 7). Just a starting point for more hacking on the Nexus 7.
Flashable zip package attached.
It should go without saying that anything you do with this package you do at your own risk.
Features
Insecure
init.d support
Overclocked to 1.5GHz
Voltage tweaks at OC clocks
BFQ scheduler
smartassv2 governor
lagfree governor
Made kernel version not suck
Notes
You should root and install busybox into /system/xbin before flashing this kernel. Don't flash this if you don't know what you're doing as I'm too lazy to include n00b instructions.
Credits
Thanks to Virtuous team for their updater-script for this device.
Source
https://github.com/zaventh/nexus7-kernel-grouper
Blog post
http://www.jeffmixon.com/custom-nexus-7-kernel-atlantis-r2-released/
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That CPU score is sexy!
Great work! Now I definitely can't wait for my nexus to ship.
Edit: If you could try adding smartassv2. This is a popular governor that I would really enjoy on the nexus 7.
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this is compatible with the stock rom right? ik it has to be rooted btw
Caliyork said:
That CPU score is sexy!
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Yes it is...
MC153 said:
Great work! Now I definitely can't wait for my nexus to ship.
Edit: If you could try adding smartassv2. This is a popular governor that I would really enjoy on the nexus 7.
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Sure. I'll be adding several custom governors to choose from.
jarjar124 said:
this is compatible with the stock rom right? ik it has to be rooted btw
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Yes, it's compiled from stock kernel sources.
Thanks so much man. Can't wait to get my nexus so I can flash this. Hopefully before the 18th which is my birthday. I had heard though that smartass didn't work so well with more than 1 core though. Could you clarify on that.
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evilstewie23 said:
Thanks so much man. Can't wait to get my nexus so I can flash this. Hopefully before the 18th which is my birthday. I had heard though that smartass didn't work so well with more than 1 core though. Could you clarify on that.
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Smartass v1 was made for single core cpu's. Smartass v2 was made for dual core cpu's, so v2 might work better on a quad core? V2 doesn't really work all that well on my single core cpu for the phone I have.
zaventh said:
Yes it is...
Sure. I'll be adding several custom governors to choose from.
Yes, it's compiled from stock kernel sources.
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Nice work! Can't wait to see the future of this kernel.
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sparksco said:
Smartass v1 was made for single core cpu's. Smartass v2 was made for dual core cpu's, so v2 might work better on a quad core? V2 doesn't really work all that well on my single core cpu for the phone I have.
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Exactly right. I actually never really liked smartassv2 in general, but I think it is working out fairly well on the N7, actually.
This is after just a little bit of game time, some regular usage, and some sleep time. I may need to tweak some of the higher clock values so it scales up a bit more gracefully. At any rate, there will be plenty of options to play around with.
zaventh said:
Exactly right. I actually never really liked smartassv2 in general, but I think it is working out fairly well on the N7, actually.
This is after just a little bit of game time, some regular usage, and some sleep time. I may need to tweak some of the higher clock values so it scales up a bit more gracefully. At any rate, there will be plenty of options to play around with.
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So whats the heat production and stability like at 1.5ghz? When you say 1.5ghz, is that like the htc one x where it is actually 1.4ghz but you can go to 1.5ghz when only using one core, or is it all four cores clocked at 1.5 please? Got to admit that a gpu OC would be really nice. This looks great, thanks
any chance of getting some gpu over clocks in then kernal, screw battery life give me mmmhhhzzz!
Is it possible to get scary gov on this? I think it's based on smartassv1 but not really sure. It gives me a good balance between performace and battery. Or perhaps we could make a scaryV2 lol?
Great work for a first Kernel
Is the extra battery drain worth that .2ghz of extra horsepower? Because i've heard it's a perfectly capable device @ 1.3ghz.
lhayati said:
Great work for a first Kernel
Is the extra battery drain worth that .2ghz of extra horsepower? Because i've heard it's a perfectly capable device @ 1.3ghz.
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Thanks. Naturally, it's a matter of personal preference of course if it is "worth" it to OC any processor. OC'ing the N7 was more of a "because I can" thing than for any practical reason. The CPU is impressive as is.
The N7 is probably the fastest and most responsive mobile device I've ever seen even at stock, mostly thanks to the hardware but also due to Jelly Bean's ability to leverage this kind of raw power.
The actual battery drain between 1.3GHz -> 1.5GHz will all depend on how much time you spend at those higher clock speeds, of course.
zaventh said:
Thanks. Naturally, it's a matter of personal preference of course if it is "worth" it to OC any processor. OC'ing the N7 was more of a "because I can" thing than for any practical reason. The CPU is impressive as is.
The N7 is probably the fastest and most responsive mobile device I've ever seen even at stock, mostly thanks to the hardware but also due to Jelly Bean's ability to leverage this kind of raw power.
The actual battery drain between 1.3GHz -> 1.5GHz will all depend on how much time you spend at those higher clock speeds, of course.
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Thank you for this kernel. I cant wait for my nexus 7
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Do we know at what speed the ram is clocked?
The transformer infinity uses DDR3 at 1600. The 300t is much lower though
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emergant said:
Do we know at what speed the ram is clocked?
The transformer infinity uses DDR3 at 1600. The 300t is much lower though
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It's been confimred in the Q&A section that the N7 has DDR3 ram :beer:
Thanks. But DDR3-667 as in tf300 or DDR-1600 as in Tf700 or something else
I thought about putting this in QA but thought the dev might know. Sorry if that was a bad call
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Whops I meant general not Q&A
Hynix HTC2G83CFR DDR3 RAM
Hope that helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748933
Smartass V2 doesn't support scaling upto 4 cores
Its useless for this device!

Post Your Benchmarks - Antutu / GFXBench / Vellamo Metal / Basemark OS II

Share your benchmark scores with xda - Antutu / GFXBench / Vellamo Metal / Basemark OS II
Stock Rom or not will be greatly appreciated. See attached vs. other current Verizon Android Phones.
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This was stock ROM, reflashed via TOT about a month after I had the phone. Rooted, all LG/Verizon disableable stuff disabled in App Manager (before rooting).
Ok so I just got done setting up Vanir AOSP 4.4.4 ROM with all my apps. I haven't customized anything other than various appearance settings - I didn't mess with SetCPU, schedulers, DPI, etc. This was just me installing all my apps and setting up the notifications etc. the way I like them. This is my first run at an AOSP ROM on the G3. Here are the results.
(NOTE: I downloaded and ran all the same benchmarks as in the list above, with a reboot between each benchmark run. I have annotated the order in which I ran the benchmarks after their respective titles.)
Antutu (first):
Vellamo Metal (fourth):
Basemark OS II (second):
GFX Bench (third):
(NOTE: The phone was scorching hot at the end of this run; throttling might explain the lower scores?)
My phone with bloat turned off and running with the interactive governor and a hack to make throttling less aggressive.
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tech_head said:
My phone with bloat turned off and running with the interactive governor and a hack to make throttling less aggressive.
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Dawn what is this hack you speak of?
Modifying thermal-engine-8974.conf to prevent throttling in an aggressive manner. There is a thread somewhere about it. I hacked it up self based on what I want my phone to do. As you can see from my previous post Antutu performance is right up there with the other flagships. The big reason why it still lags behind the S5 is 3d performance. Anyway I'm happy now that it doesn't throttle and I still get a days use.
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tech_head said:
Modifying thermal-engine-8974.conf to prevent throttling in an aggressive manner. There is a thread somewhere about it. I hacked it up self based on what I want my phone to do. As you can see from my previous post Antutu performance is right up there with the other flagships. The big reason why it still lags behind the S5 is 3d performance. Anyway I'm happy now that it doesn't throttle and I still get a days use.
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How'd you change governors if you are on the stock kernel?
Nothing in the stock kernel prevents it. I use ROM Toolbox (pro version) and you can tweak a bunch of performance parameters. LG doesn't lock the kernel down except for maximum clock speed. So you can't over clock but you can run a max 100% of the time. You will eventually hit thermal throttle, but you can do it.
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Here's my score with beans Rom and running skydragons kernel and no other tweaks to the kernel
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Mine
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Thank you, what is your current Rom / setup for these scores.
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legend221 said:
Thank you, what is your current Rom / setup for these scores.
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I did a lot of work tweaking the kernel, i/o scheduler and throttling response
Here is one using the latest Vanir Commotio Lollipop
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Do you mind posting details about how you have things setup?
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Do you mind posting details about how you have things setup?
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WOuld, but I am on a different setup now...
I set the governor to Interactive, read ahead buffer to 4096, cfq scheduler, Vegas Tcp Conjestion Control, max frequency 2457 minimum 300
I fine tuned the governor as well, but cant remember the settings, sorry
I am on Jasmine 4.0 running the latest Skydragon kernel. The trickster mod setup is the second pic- TCP setting is clipped off the top, its Westwood.
Broke 42k today with CM12 12/12.
In case anyone is wondering, using trickster mod the best governor is performance, not interactive, when it come to benchmarks specifically. Interactive is better for general use but performance will just always give you the optimal performance (get it) in a benchmark.
i did a benchmark with stock lil debloat and skydragon kernel , im no tech so i dont know much about these readings . im planing of switching to liquidsmooth rom
cap1tal1sm said:
Broke 42k today with CM12 12/12.
In case anyone is wondering, using trickster mod the best governor is performance, not interactive, when it come to benchmarks specifically. Interactive is better for general use but performance will just always give you the optimal performance (get it) in a benchmark.
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Cool.. Screenshots for reference???
pitbull8265 said:
Cool.. Screenshots for reference???
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You're just gonna have to trust me that I hit 42k xD didn't screenshot it.
I actually hit 40k with stock ROM by turning on performance governor, so it definitely helps with benchmarking.

Note 3 Gaming case ideas

Hi there. This is a thread to talk about an ideas of a gaming case for the note 3
As you know, note 3 is still an amazing for a 3 year old smartphone. It now has a nougat based rom and can be overclocked, both gpu and cpu. And the result is amazing(though not significant)
But the problem is that the device overheats when gaming after a few minutes and so it throttles
My idea is to design a case that would cools it down efficiently with a small colling fan and a battery to supply then fan's power. But might have to open the note 3's back to exposed the SoC
This is the basic idea tho. If you would like to add an idea, a design, or maybe just sketch it, you are welcome to do so
I simply used a PS3 controller with a homemade metal base and a lid from a CASIO scientific calculator. All together with glue . Works perfectly using SIXAXIS. Not the most elegant solution, but it works very well
holzmans said:
I simply used a PS3 controller with a homemade metal base and a lid from a CASIO scientific calculator. All together with glue . Works perfectly using SIXAXIS. Not the most elegant solution, but it works very well
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Can you share a picture of it? I wanna what design you made from that
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Can you share a picture of it? I wanna what design you made from that
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6BVH57W40FVWtiOTRsTkFpU3M
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6BVH57W40FUlhSZDB0aGRnbVk
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Lol that so freaking funny but practical homegrown ingenuity lol lol lol lol lol lol and yes more. lol
Where can I find ROM in which i can overclock GPU?
Moherek993 said:
Where can I find ROM in which i can overclock GPU?
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Lineage ROM should have tho
GPU overclock
SirAnKeKu said:
Lineage ROM should have tho
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I don't have such possibility in my Christer12's Lineage OS
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I don't have such possibility in my Christer12's Lineage OS
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Ah.. you are using a snapdragon note 3. I don't really know tho. But what i do know, there is an OC kernel for your device. Try to search it at your forum good luck
I tried a lot of times, there is no kernel which allows me to OC GPU, based on newer firmware. I found only one for Note 4 Port based on 5.0.2 TW. I think developers don't care about adding GPU overclock feature to any kernel
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I tried a lot of times, there is no kernel which allows me to OC GPU, based on newer firmware. I found only one for Note 4 Port based on 5.0.2 TW. I think developers don't care about adding GPU overclock feature to any kernel
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Well not that they don't care, it's just that OC on an android was not like OC on PCs.
And one major flaws of OC on android is that our phone's CPU and GPU are passive cooled. Which causes thermal throttling, which lowers performance, which makes OC kinda Pointless
You may ask the dev to implement OC to their kernel tho
Which is one of the reason why i made is thread, to disscuss gaming Case design that will helps Chips from thermal throttling and also gaming friendly. We may use ideas here for reference or maybe a Kickstarter project if anyone is interested to do so
Ok, passive cooling and throttling, i agree. But, why can't we OC our Adreno 330 GPU to 587 MHz like it's in Snapdragon 801 chips. Both Snap 800 and 801 are almost the same, higher clocked only...
Moherek993 said:
Ok, passive cooling and throttling, i agree. But, why can't we OC our Adreno 330 GPU to 587 MHz like it's in Snapdragon 801 chips. Both Snap 800 and 801 are almost the same, higher clocked only...
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We CAN OC our gpu if you want, but it's up to dev to implement it to their ROM's kernel
Also, not all chips are made equally. Some might stand OC, while others might refuse to do so
liquid Ammonia Will work very good in a compact box like structure, it is cool(chill).
How will we able to fit a small fan?? with battery, wat about motor??, need something other Thinking.
Well i will try to make a sketch or 3d image wateva goin on mamind, if possible atleast for me
manmtm said:
liquid Ammonia Will work very good in a compact box like structure, it is cool(chill).
How will we able to fit a small fan?? with battery, wat about motor??, need something other Thinking.
Well i will try to make a sketch or 3d image wateva goin on mamind, if possible atleast for me
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That was appreciated man. Thank you
Well a fan could fit in to a gpd win, so why not a gaming case? (Yea, i was thinking about that the case was that thick)
And amonia works fine, but i think it would be better to use active cooling for maximum potential
SirAnKeKu said:
That was appreciated man. Thank you
Well a fan could fit in to a gpd win, so why not a gaming case? (Yea, i was thinking about that the case was that thick)
And amonia works fine, but i think it would be better to use active cooling for maximum potential
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Yeh, fan will absolutly make it much better,
but not to mention- fan must be small, it is difficult to make that small fan( atleat for devices which we are using)
still if we'll be able to then it gonna be the very best that no one ever was
whatever idea or progress you will make pls share with us.
Disable samsing dvfs to get rid of throttling and get smooth gaming even after few hours
Gamer4Life said:
Disable samsing dvfs to get rid of throttling and get smooth gaming even after few hours
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Samsung dvfs? Can you tell me more about that mate? And is it only limited to a specific variant of note 3? Like exynos or snapdragon?
Its in all samsung devices since kitkat
You need to be rooted and have xposed installed. Then install dvfs disabler module
Gamer4Life said:
Its in all samsung devices since kitkat
You need to be rooted and have xposed installed. Then install dvfs disabler module
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Well xposed is not available nougat
And speaking of which, aosp based roms doesn't have dvfs, right?

Some Cores Not Working

hi everyone,i flashed last build of lineage 14.1 on my redmi kate,everything went fine but after that i run a bench with antutu and cpux,they show cores 5 and 6 sleeping,don't know how to make then work,is it normal or maybe am i making a dumb question? thx in advance
Have you flashed/tempered with any kernels or kernel audiutor?
jimakos98 said:
Have you flashed/tempered with any kernels or kernel audiutor?
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no,i dont made any changes,only flashed lineage,no mods
kleytonhunter said:
no,i dont made any changes,only flashed lineage,no mods
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It's probably normal then. I am also using the same rom and core 5/core 6 are shown running at 0.0 KHz. Basically, the system automatically manages the state of those cores depending on cpu usage in order to save battery life.
Last two cores are the big cluster(high performance) cores which come online under more loads due to hot-plugging.
Try loading a video or a game and see whether these cores come online.

[MAGISK] Thermal Throttle Mod [UPDATED]

Why?
Well, i've found the stock values pretty limiting. Phone was slowing down pretty fast while under load. So i decided to make this mod.
How?(FOR ANDROID M-N)
(MAKE SURE TO HAVE A BACKUP OF THESE FILES)
Simply just go over to system/etc and delete these 2 files (If you cannot delete these files in any root file manager, do it in TWRP file manager.)
"thermal-engine-8996.conf"
"thermal-engine-8996-a1.conf"
You can't set values for Android 6-7 ROMs. However, you can disable SW thermal throttling completely instead.
How?(FOR ANDROID O)
(MAKE SURE TO HAVE A BACKUP OF THESE FILES)
Go to system/vendor/etc , find "thermal-engine-8996.conf" or "thermal-engine-8996-lite.conf" if you have 32 gb variant of Mi5.
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These are the values that can be changed by the user,
For CPU,
[SS-CLUSTER1-SP0]
CLUSTER1 stands for BIG core, and CLUSTER0 stands for SMALL cores
The number at the end of SP stands for thermal throttling level. 0 Is the first one kicks in, 2 is the last one.
sampling= Default is 250, which means phone will reflesh temprature values every 250 miliseconds. You dont have to change this one.
sensor= xo_therm_buf sensor stands for Mainboard - SoC temp reading.
set_point= This is the one we need for changing thermal values. default 1st level thermal throttle value is 43000, which stands for 43c.
device_perf_floor= Specifies the frequency of the cpu in it's current thermal throttle level. 1478400 means phone will limit 1478 mhz during the first thermal throttle level, until temp goes down under the specified temprature.
[SKIN-SS-CPUS-ALL-1]
The set_point value in this section defines at which temp limit phone gonna turn off one of the cores, to decrease temp in extreme conditions. Mine is set to 57000, stands for 57c for mainboard temp.
For GPU,
[SS-GPU]
The set_point value in this section will set the thermal limit for the GPU. Mine is set to 55000.
These are the all of the values that can be changed by the user, DO NOT touch the other values except these ones.
MAGISK
If you don't want to mess around with all these settings, I've made a magisk module with my personal settings. You can extract thermal-engine-8996(-lite).conf file and set values you want and add it back into zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J8QhSSGUHAqvjjOIAWQ0U2etIOHQDaZe/view?usp=drivesdk
NEW:
My new extreme settings, throttling will start from 60c SoC temp.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H58mlV05yEd-NP7dnQG6tr5QyKcL4vGD/view?usp=drivesdk
NOTES:
1) I am not responsible for any damages may occur. YOU ARE the one choosing to make this modification. Be careful.
2) Works on every ROM.
2) Since the CPU and GPU will still have the HW temp limit, the only thing you should keep your eye at is your battery temprature. As long as you dont pass 50c battery temp, everything should be okay. Avoid to charge the phone when battery temp is more than 50c otherwise battery may start losing it's lifespan.
3) This trick does not trigger safetynet. I've tested it and safetynet still passes with this modification.
4) This trick might work with other Snapdragon devices as well. You can try it, but make sure to have a backup.[/SIZE]
Fastest way to broke device. Awesome tut man...
alreadyregistered said:
Fastest way to broke device. Awesome tut man...
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As i said in the notes section, people are choosing to make this modification. This is also what XDA stands for, making experiments and sharing with other people.
In my personal experience, i've been using this modification for more than 5 months and no issue so far.
But it's not mod. It's deleting system files. It probably cause a lot of bugs and reports to logcat causing slowing system/using more battery..
Only 'safe' way to do it is via KERNEL settings.
I've never faced any log loops or errors/slowdowns within 5 months of usage. Also it will use more battery not because of errors but no thermal throttling and running at highest speed when needed.
Kernel settings WONT override on these software based TT files. They work in Kernel with the HW level thermal throttling.
I am trying to play some high graphics games for some days and thermal throttling just wouldn't let me.
Cpu reached 60C in 10 minutes and phone lagged like hell.
I just deleted the thermal engine files and throttling seems to be disabled.
I have gone up to 75° foe GPU and CPU.
But I am kinda worried that I will fry my cpu :/
How much temperature do you think it's safe up to?
I wonder to know how to modify the threshold value of temp control,the frequency of cpu drops to 1500/1100Mhz at about 50°C(cpu temp),this freq should at 70 C.The temp files are all encrypted.
Jongla said:
I am trying to play some high graphics games for some days and thermal throttling just wouldn't let me.
Cpu reached 60C in 10 minutes and phone lagged like hell.
I just deleted the thermal engine files and throttling seems to be disabled.
I have gone up to 75° foe GPU and CPU.
But I am kinda worried that I will fry my cpu :/
How much temperature do you think it's safe up to?
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Technically the SoC is safe even if software based thermal throttling totally disabled. There's still HW one, which will trigger and shut down phone in dangerous temps.
But as a general rule, cpu and gpu shouldn't stay over 90c for too long.
(Check tsens_tz_sensor3 for little core temp, and tsens_tz_sensor8 for big core temp. You can use AIDA or cpu z to check those sensors.)
steadyMcat said:
I wonder to know how to modify the threshold value of temp control,the frequency of cpu drops to 1500/1100Mhz at about 50°C(cpu temp),this freq should at 70 C.The temp files are all encrypted.
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A modded throttle config file coming up tomorrow, there will be 2 different versions;
First one will follow the stock thermal throttling handling, which is based on xo_therm_buf sensor. (Basically the SoC - mainboard thermal control, cpu temps will be ignored)
Second one will priotize cpu temps for throttling, ignoring mainboard temps (which i dont recommend, since high mainboard temp can damage other components near the SoC.
I'll also explain how to control thermal throttling values later, it's pretty easy.
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Technically the SoC is safe even if software based thermal throttling totally disabled. There's still HW one, which will trigger and shut down phone in dangerous temps.
But as a general rule, cpu and gpu shouldn't stay over 90c for too long.
(Check tsens_tz_sensor3 for little core temp, and tsens_tz_sensor8 for big core temp. You can use AIDA or cpu z to check those sensors.)
A modded throttle config file coming up tomorrow, there will be 2 different versions;
First one will follow the stock thermal throttling handling, which is based on xo_therm_buf sensor. (Basically the SoC - mainboard thermal control, cpu temps will be ignored)
Second one will priotize cpu temps for throttling, ignoring mainboard temps (which i dont recommend, since high mainboard temp can damage other components near the SoC.
I'll also explain how to control thermal throttling values later, it's pretty easy.
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Wow, nice Finally someone will explain all Im playin Mobile Legends and in every rom i tried i have to delete 2 thermal configs to play this game.. without deleting after 5min my game is lagging like sh*t :| I dont have thermal configs now for like 3 months or more and nothing happen, phone is not even hot when im playin' I cant wait for ur configs and test it by myself. cheers!
Thread updated, Now you can use magisk to override thermal throttle values systemlessly. Also i've added instructions section if you want to do it yourself.
Edit: There was a issue with permissions of the magisk file, now it should be working!
~N.A.W.Y~ said:
Thread updated, Now you can use magisk to override thermal throttle values systemlessly. Also i've added instructions section if you want to do it yourself.
Edit: There was a issue with permissions of the magisk file, now it should be working!
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i'm on nougat rom now, so i just replaced the thermal engine with this mod or what? bcs i noticed the name files was different, original file names thermal-engine-8996-a1.conf, and your mod thermal-engine-8996-lite.conf
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i'm on nougat rom now, so i just replaced the thermal engine with this mod or what? bcs i noticed the name files was different, original file names thermal-engine-8996-a1.conf, and your mod thermal-engine-8996-lite.conf
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Read the thread again. You cannot use the mod on nougat roms. Instead, you can delete thermal engine to disable thermal throttling.
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~N.A.W.Y~ said:
Read the thread again. You cannot use the mod on nougat roms. Instead, you can delete thermal engine to disable thermal throttling.
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Hello quick clarification needed
I have the 3GB/32GB variant, should I edit the lite one? And what should I do for the other non lite file?
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Hello quick clarification needed
I have the 3GB/32GB variant, should I edit the lite one? And what should I do for the other non lite file?
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Yes. The "Non lite" file can stay as it is.
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Yes. The "Non lite" file can stay as it is.
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What if I'm using custom kernel with Mi 5 standard SD820 frequencies (2.15/1.6GHz) as the 64GB variant? Still lite or the other one?
white.mamba said:
What if I'm using custom kernel with Mi 5 standard SD820 frequencies (2.15/1.6GHz) as the 64GB variant? Still lite or the other one?
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I have no idea about that. It could be great if you test it out and report it back to me. So i can update thread for such situations.
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Added my extreme config, thermal throttle will start at 60c. HW throttle will limit SoC temp no matter what, but you should check your battery temps none the less.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H58mlV05yEd-NP7dnQG6tr5QyKcL4vGD/view?usp=drivesdk
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its work mi5s ?
taylan08 said:
its work mi5s ?
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No. But if you could send me the thermal engine file, i can edit it.
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~N.A.W.Y~ said:
No. But if you could send me the thermal engine file, i can edit it.
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Oh can you edit mine too? Mi 5s Plus

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