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Now that we know that the Xperia Z2 isnt recieving Nougat, I wanted it to know everyones decision on whether to stay with their Z2 on marshmallow or to upgrade. Im personally thinking of upgrading to Z5P at some point as i cannot unlock my bootloader eventhough the sim has been unlocked.
So im wondering if everyone else was thinking of doing the same thing or just to stick with marshmallow. Is the Z2 still worth keeping or is it time for an upgrade?
Nougat Xperia List: http://www.xda-developers.com/android-nougat-coming-to-a-ton-of-sony-devices/
I'm seriously thinking about a Note 7. Damn phone has a range of very cool accessories. Sony is stuck.
The most likely reason the Z2 and Z3 series won't get an official update to 7.0 is that to receive a Google certification so OEMs can bundle Google apps with their updates, the phone needs to support Vulkan OR OpenGL 3.1.
Sitic on Reddit explains it well.
So we can build from AOSP, but Sony can't officially update the Z2 and Z3. That's why the Nexus 5 didn't get an official update from Google. That does mean we will likely never get a stable AOSP build with cameras and RIL working properly, like the case with 6.0 AOSP.
I will leave Android, and I will wait for iPhone 7
I love SONY and I dont see a point to move to another device, as there are plenty of custom roms for our device and xposed modules concerning Android N like N-ify is there to port Android N features to older devices. I think I wont move on to another Xperia device until my Z2 has hardware failure.
They should let us unlock our bootloaders now. I can't (****ty carrier locked phone) so I'm stuck with sony roms
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They should let us unlock our bootloaders now. I can't (****ty carrier locked phone) so I'm stuck with sony roms
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Why dont you just flash the international version .ftf for Z2 so as to escape from your carrier barrier ?
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iSaidyiu said:
Why dont you just flash the international version .ftf for Z2 so as to escape from your carrier barrier ?
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Oh i've already done that. But I can't flash cyanogenmod, nor N preview.
coc014 said:
Oh i've already done that. But I can't flash cyanogenmod, nor N preview.
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No! Not custom roms! FTF imply OFFICIAL FIRMWARE FOR SONY DEVICES, ehich can be downloaded via flashtool by androxyde.
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iSaidyiu said:
No! Not custom roms! FTF imply OFFICIAL FIRMWARE FOR SONY DEVICES, ehich can be downloaded via flashtool by androxyde.
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Like I said i've already done that. I've no branding, flashed a stock french ftf a while back. But that's not my issue. My bootloader is still locked, the carrier it was sold on stop people from unlocking bootloaders, they set the flag" bootloader unlock allowed" as "no". So I can't flash roms.
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Like I said i've already done that. I've no branding, flashed a stock french ftf a while back. But that's not my issue. My bootloader is still locked, the carrier it was sold on stop people from unlocking bootloaders, they set the flag" bootloader unlock allowed" as "no". So I can't flash roms.
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I'm in the same boat, my z2 has the bootloader permanently locked by my operator. No more updates from sony and no custom rom support so i'll probably change to another device before the end of the year.
Unfortunately i don't like any of the latest sony devices so i'll probably get the next nexus or a zte axon 7.
I've learned my lesson, i'll never buy a device from a carrier or with an unlockable bootloader again.
ptmaniac said:
I'm in the same boat, my z2 has the bootloader permanently locked by my operator. No more updates from sony and no custom rom support so i'll probably change to another device before the end of the year.
Unfortunately i don't like any of the latest sony devices so i'll probably get the next nexus or a zte axon 7.
I've learned my lesson, i'll never buy a device from a carrier or with an unlockable bootloader again.
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I know how it feels it was the same for my Xperia play which had that damn bootloader unlock no its stupid in my opinion it shouldnt exist its rather damn anoying leaving me to upgrade to Xperia z as my play wasnt recieving ics at the time. I think ill keep my z2 and wait till theres a new Xperia. My z also had the same issue but when I "accidentally" got it damaged by water it was replace as Sony made it worse when running water tests on it as i presume further and luckily allowing me to unlock the bootloader. Im also wondering if Sony can do some magic with the bootload unlock no. I read that they can but its an unauthorised unlock so they wont do it.
i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
nhuduy said:
i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
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Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
Well its true, Z2 went through a lot of software updates and its has exceeded the usual 2 year update period.
In my opinion this device was legendary when it came out, the feature set and specs are still top notch.
Ive been using it for almost 2 years and i think im going to switch to a LG G5 by the end of september,
because it offers a lot of upgrades over this phone and has the most reasonable price tag between the flagships.
iSaidyiu said:
Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
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Because Qualcomm.
Qualcomm stop update graphic drivers for snapdragon 800/ 801
Sony Xperia Z1, Sony Xperia Z2 ,Sony Xperia Z3, HTC One M8, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, LG G4 : snapdragon 800 and snapdragon 801
nhuduy said:
Because Qualcomm.
Qualcomm stop update graphic drivers for snapdragon 800/ 801
Sony Xperia Z1, Sony Xperia Z2 ,Sony Xperia Z3, HTC One M8, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, LG G4 : snapdragon 800 and snapdragon 801
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Well speaking of officialness, we can still build AOSP-based rom or porting the later devices' Sony official ROM to our device.
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iSaidyiu said:
Well speaking of officialness, we can still build AOSP-based rom or porting the later devices' Sony official ROM to our device.
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Yes!
I hope AOSP to will update os with our.
I only update os with Xperifirm for Z2, never update with AOSP.
When we unlock bootloader,
can you send to me some link to help me how can i flash AOSP rom?
nhuduy said:
Yes!
I hope AOSP to will update os with our.
I only update os with Xperifirm for Z2, never update with AOSP.
When we unlock bootloader,
can you send to me some link to help me how can i flash AOSP rom?
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You need a custom kernel with recovery ( in .img ), and the AOSP rom ( in .zip or .img ).
If rom is in .zip format…
1. Load the zip onto your phone storage ( internal or external ).
2. Flash the custom kernel ( aka. boot image )( usually achieved by extracting from rom.zip ) in flashtool via fastboot mode.
3. Boot into recovery and flah zip.
4. Done.
If rom is in .img fornat…
1. Flash boot.img and system.img ACCORDINGLY in fastboot mode.
2. Done.
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nhuduy said:
i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
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iXaidyiu said:
Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
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Compared with Samsungs support and update strategy Sony is the worlds no.1, i own a XPlay ( active ), Arc S, Z ( active ), Z1, Z2 ( active ), Z3, and my next phone will be the X. For daily use the Z ( C6603 ) has more than enough power, after 4 years. All my Sonys running Lollipop ( Stock/CM ), and i suggest to stay with your Z2 with a modified/cleaned stock Lollipop fw.
Offtopic: Samsungs S3 came together with the Z, Samsung stopped support with JB 4.3, terrible.
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Sorry but cant find nothing about it. Is there no Android P rom yet for the V30?
Thanks
jandric said:
Sorry but cant find nothing about it. Is there no Android P rom yet for the V30?
Thanks
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We're still learning about Oreo.
We only have LG stock based ROMs right now. Except for a pre-alpha LOS.... But yeah, debloated stock-based ROMs.
Unless it's LG stock it won't work. We have quad DAC and AI camera an Android P ROM would screw up royally.
P beta will be available on selected phones besides Pixel phones. But I am sure those phones have to support treble. Which the V30 doesn't.
Hopefully the phones we have will survive long enough to have another update next year. https://blog.motorola.com/2018/08/15/baked-android-pie-coming-motorola/
Yey. Let's wait till end q1 of 2019 when Google starts to test Android Q for Motorola to get P ready for it's last year's phone's. Or do I have to remind you that Oreo was released end April/early May to the original Z play?
Artim_96 said:
Yey. Let's wait till end q1 of 2019 when Google starts to test Android Q for Motorola to get P ready for it's last year's phone's. Or do I have to remind you that Oreo was released end April/early May to the original Z play?
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And it hasn't even been released in some regions ??*
OTBOPKOTO said:
Hopefully the phones we have will survive long enough to have another update next year. https://blog.motorola.com/2018/08/15/baked-android-pie-coming-motorola/
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You might have misunderstood something.
The article says "Android Pie will be served up on the below Motorola smartphones starting this fall:"
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You might have misunderstood something.
The article says "Android Pie will be served up on the below Motorola smartphones starting this fall:"
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Yes, starting with the 2018 models, or maybe only with the Z3 since it's the most expensive ones. Or do you really believe that our one year old phone will get updates that quick? They are not Pixels and knowing the update strategy of Lenovo for the past couple of years and without treble we can be lucky if we even get it this year. or have you forgotten the Oreo update? And it wasn't even to 8.1, just 8.0
I am still on 7.1.1 Nougut. According to support, I am on the latest update. But on 08/31 they claimed they are behind, but it is coming soon.
Shouldn't the all be the same regardless of software channel, build number, SKU, Version, etc.? They are all Moto Z2 Play. Mine is even unlocked so I would think that would be a benefit.
Here are the specs from the "about phone":
- Moto Z2 Play - UNLOCKED version (carrier independent)
- Software Channel = "retla"
- Build Number = NPSS26.118-19-1-16
- SKU = XT1710-06
- Version = PVT1
- Baseband version = M8953P_23.33.07.34.01RALBUS_LATAMDSDS_CUST
- Security patch = February 1, 2018
- Android 7.1.1. (Nougut)
Murf. said:
I am still on 7.1.1 Nougut. According to support, I am on the latest update. But on 08/31 they claimed they are behind, but it is coming soon.
Shouldn't the all be the same regardless of software channel, build number, SKU, Version, etc.? They are all Moto Z2 Play. Mine is even unlocked so I would think that would be a benefit.
Here are the specs from the "about phone":
- Moto Z2 Play - UNLOCKED version (carrier independent)
- Software Channel = "retla"
- Build Number = NPSS26.118-19-1-16
- SKU = XT1710-06
- Version = PVT1
- Baseband version = M8953P_23.33.07.34.01RALBUS_LATAMDSDS_CUST
- Security patch = February 1, 2018
- Android 7.1.1. (Nougut)
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I had the update like in mid July, but it didn't take. It got all messed up and went back to 7.1.1
So I installed Oreo on the side and put Custom Rom on top of it.
Android 9 confirmed... but im still on 7.1.1... i cant understand why my phone never got Oreo
Emacordoba said:
Android 9 confirmed... but im still on 7.1.1... i cant understand why my phone never got Oreo
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Same here. I have no idea why my phone won't update. I have it unlocked and rooted with Magisk, but won't it still detect the update and try to download it? I just need to unroot first and flash it and it should be just fine I thought. But nope, still on 7.1.1 with the February 2018 security patch. I'm on software channel retus. Right now I'm not really too concerned with getting a new version of Android on this phone since everything is stable but I'd like to know why my phone never got the 8.0/8.1 update.
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Same here. I have no idea why my phone won't update. I have it unlocked and rooted with Magisk, but won't it still detect the update and try to download it? I just need to unroot first and flash it and it should be just fine I thought. But nope, still on 7.1.1 with the February 2018 security patch. I'm on software channel retus. Right now I'm not really too concerned with getting a new version of Android on this phone since everything is stable but I'd like to know why my phone never got the 8.0/8.1 update.
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i have mine without root and locked like the first day... no mods, only basic soft and games.... still on february patch
Emacordoba said:
i have mine without root and locked like the first day... no mods, only basic soft and games.... still on february patch
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It depends on carrier. Although, if you ask them, carrier will say it depends on Moto; but truth is, it isn't. As far as I know, AT&T Latin America released (or it was Moto?) 8.0 Oreo in August, which has been already updated up to September, 2018. Next should be 9, but... Yes, 8.0 was released same time as 9 for Pixels, a full year after Z2 device landed. So, statistically, 9's OTA should be inside AT&T's Z2 devices, late in 2019. That would be another year, probably along with 10's appearance! but... Maybe not. Who knows what's in their heads. Point seems to be keeping OTA fans (don't count me in) eager as hell.
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I've just received October's security patch
Build No. : OPSS27.76-12-25-11View attachment 4630311
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Is pie update coming or not? Or are there a custom pie ROM available? Would you recommend flashing ROM? I mean will it reduce battery or performance? Thanks in advance.
The Android Pie 9.0 update we get for Moto Z2 Play will be still on 32bit architecture?
g0u1ham said:
The Android Pie 9.0 update we get for Moto Z2 Play will be still on 32bit architecture?
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Yes, 100%.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Yes, 100%.
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So did they mean this Fall as in NOW? Coz I'm still on 8.0.0 as "latest" and seriously peeved considering these Z²s are pretty much vanilla Android to begin with
Mi A1 received Android 9 pie update and now it supports dual 4G + volte. Really shocked to see Snapdragon 625 supporting dual 4G and that too enabled with an update. And Moto doesn't even update their os to 64 bit.
signation said:
Mi A1 received Android 9 pie update and now it supports dual 4G + volte. Really shocked to see Snapdragon 625 supporting dual 4G and that too enabled with an update. And Moto doesn't even update their os to 64 bit.
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For this device to be updated to 64bit, it would require formatting, users would lose all their stored data. How well do you think that would go over with the general public?
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For this device to be updated to 64bit, it would require formatting, users would lose all their stored data. How well do you think that would go over with the general public?
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That is a fair point. Although it's fairly easy to backup data on a phone with SD card, not everyone will like it. I had Asus zenfone 3 which came with 64bit OS despite 3GB of RAM and camera 2 API was enabled so the Gcam and hdr+ worked without root. Thought Z2 play with 4GB RAM, better camera sensor and stock Android will be even better. I was wrong.
Does anyone know of any ROMs, Official or Unofficial, for the "ZTE Avid Plus Z828," completed or in the works? I have this phone that was given to me, because a relative changed carriers. I am presently using it as a wifi device. It has better specs then my activated phone, a "Moto E 1st gen," and I would like to replace it, with the Avid, but the Avid has Marshmallow, and my Moto E has Lineage OS Nougat. If there is none, may I suggest it somewhere?
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Does anyone know of any ROMs, Official or Unofficial, for the "ZTE Avid Plus Z828," completed or in the works? I have this phone that was given to me, because a relative changed carriers. I am presently using it as a wifi device. It has better specs then my activated phone, a "Moto E 1st gen," and I would like to replace it, with the Avid, but the Avid has Marshmallow, and my Moto E has Lineage OS Nougat. If there is none, may I suggest it somewhere?
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Well, I think I am too late in the party...
I rooted my avid Plus a while back and it got somewhat messed up....
I am currently trying to compile CM-12.1 and Lineage 14.1 (if cm-12.1 works) for this device along with TWRP to try and see if I can revive my phone and yours too! I'm thinking about flashing TWRP through Download mode or Emergency Download Mode using the QWIL program. I have the original frimware file but I have not tried yet. Maybe just replace the original recovery.img with thw TWRP idk.....
5 years ago when i got Moto g5 plus. its community was very proactive in terms of ROMs and stuff, but that is not the case here with edge 30 pro, is it beacuse the phone is not that popular or its new? coz i am thinking of getting this or the upcoming moto frontier but since moto only supports the device for 2 years, i want to root my phone and install a custom ROM on it. does anyone know if the custom ROMs will be availabe for it anytime soon, and also if anyone can make a tutorial about rooting the phone, that will be very helpful. Thanks
The phone is new, not that popular, and motorola doesnt make it easy for custom roms either. We can probably count on some more popular ROMs like LineageOS as more people get the phone and demand rises.
As for rooting https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-root-the-moto-edge-30-pro.4414163/
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The phone is new, not that popular, and motorola doesnt make it easy for custom roms either. We can probably count on some more popular ROMs like LineageOS as more people get the phone and demand rises.
As for rooting https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-root-the-moto-edge-30-pro.4414163/
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thank you, but i dont think lineage OS will be better than the stock moto UI, i still love my moto g5 plus due to its support. Motorola should either provide atleast 3 years of supoprt or make the unlocking and installing TWRP easier. also one more thing i didnt saw TWRP installation in the provided link is it due to Motorola being more strict??
Avalon707 said:
thank you, but i dont think lineage OS will be better than the stock moto UI, i still love my moto g5 plus due to its support. Motorola should either provide atleast 3 years of supoprt or make the unlocking and installing TWRP easier. also one more thing i didnt saw TWRP installation in the provided link is it due to Motorola being more strict??
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TWRP itself is on the decline since Android 10. Magisk-patching boot manually has become the more universal rooting method.
AndyYan said:
TWRP itself is on the decline since Android 10. Magisk-patching boot manually has become the more universal rooting method.
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I am new to this method, you think there are videos on YouTube on this process?