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I was wondering if anyone who picked up a Jetstream is an artist and purchased Sketchbook Pro? I'd like to know if the new pressure sensitive function in Sketchbook Pro works with Jetstream? The function apparently works with Lenovo's tablet which sports the same N-Trig digitizer, but between Lenovo and HTC, I much prefer HTC, even it's much more expensive.
I was hoping the pressure sensitivity works in Honeycomb Flyer, but it looks like Sketchbook Pro doesn't support screen resolution as low Flyer's it seems.
I'd be very grateful if someone here could test the functionality for me.
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Sketchbook Pro does support pressure sensitivity. You need to turn it on it the app's prefs, and then it works. It doesn't feel like the same level of pressure sensitivity in Windows 7 tablets, but it's enough to do more natural sketching.
Thanks for your answer.
I know the pressure level was only 99 levels, far from Wacom on Windows 7, and I don't expect that at this point. I just needed something more portable than my TabletPC. I was hoping Honeycomb Flyer, but apparently Sketchbook Pro doesn't work on Flyer.
Thanks again for testing this out. I really appreciate it!
I just tested it out.
The pen does work, but is not pressure sensitive. It works as a more precise instrument than your finger.
Hopefully they update that, as it would improve the program quite a bit.
Strange, Sketchbook Pro has pressure sensitiviy on mine. Don't know about the free Sketchbook X version though.
Ah, it seems that there is a second-tier paid app. I purchased Sketchbook Mobile, not realizing that there was another paid version named Pro.
The mobile version does not have the option. Pro does (just purchased/tested).
It's worth noting that there's two versions each of the free and paid products. Could cause confusion.
All the ones I tried looking on Amazon look questionable and low quality. I rather have one built into a folding case than a standalone bluetooth keyboard too.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=...4+ke,aps&rh=i:aps,k:tab pro 8.4 keyboard case
I guess no one uses one!
I'm looking into getting one. Did you get that one? How is it?
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I'm looking into getting one. Did you get that one? How is it?
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Nope. Haven't found any good quality ones
I guess i'll just by a separate one then
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I guess i'll just by a separate one then
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I haven't used these specific ones but I have used them on a Viewsonic 10" tablet and various Archos tablets. The keyboards are ok, but biggest issue is the tablets never really fit in the case as well as I wanted and always tended to be a little loose. Often, I had to mod the case in order to add cutouts for the plugs - even on cases that supposedly where specific for the tablet.
I think a confortable keyboard has to be at least 25cm (10") wide, otherwise the keys would be too small and tight together for practical use.
The Tab Pro 8.4 is only 22cm (8.5") wide, and therefore keyboard cases for that size would be a functional compromise (including the Samsung Tab S 8.4 one)
My advice is to use a quality brand BT keyboard; I use a 20€ Acer IconiaTab one (26cm x 13cm wide), works nicely.
Another interesting, albeit pricier, choice is Microsoft´s Wedge (25,6cm x 10cm), keys are maximized and it should be even easier to type on.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/wedge-mobile-keyboard
P.S. good article on BT keyboards:
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-bluetooth-keyboard/#
awesomesauce! the microsoft one seems great, will it work the tab pro with no problems?
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awesomesauce! the microsoft one seems great, will it work the tab pro with no problems?
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I don´t have that keyboard, but I have a MS Mobile keyboard 5000 (Sculpt design), and it works fine.
The WINDOWS and F1-12 keys don´t do anything as expected. Volume keys are functional.
I just bumped into Dell's Venue 8 BT keyboard, similarly sized to the 8.4 Tab Pro.
It seems that for the size it is one of the better options (optimized layout with one row less of keys= larger keys)
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=580-ACLO
Has anyone tried one on an Android tablet?
Lenovo keep putting their bluetooth tablet keyboard on sale for around $15. I've been thinking of grabbing one of those.
I just got this case in yesterday for my 10.1 and it works perfectly.
My setup, case with separate keyboard (which I like this way since I use my tab 8.4 handheld most of the time)
When I need a keyboard the Dell packs up nicely (same size) along with the tablet in a pouch or with a band
Just out of curiosity, did someone try the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 keyboard case?
Does anyone used the Microsoft Wedge Mobile Keyboard on the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4? Are there any problems with it? Do you suggest it for the tablet?
I would love a clamshell type case with hinges that hold the tablet like a laptop. All these keyboard makers and no one makes these types of cases for popular tablets. Sigh.
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My setup, case with separate keyboard (which I like this way since I use my tab 8.4 handheld most of the time)
When I need a keyboard the Dell packs up nicely (same size) along with the tablet in a pouch or with a band
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What products do you have in this picture? Specifically which keyboard?
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Just out of curiosity, did someone try the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 keyboard case?
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The dimensions are appx 3mm different. One will be too large & the other too small.
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So the other day I was working with my surface Pro 3 and I had the N-trig active digitizer in hand. I went to do something on my Z2 and used the pen by accident. To my surprise it works really well. I've gone around and I can find anything about the Z2 supporting this tech, which is completely amazing to use. Honestly it's the least expected most useful feature I've ever come across.
I tried some of my other phone and none of them support the n-trig active digitizer.
Does anyone have any more info on this? Is pressure sensitivity also supported?
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So the other day I was working with my surface Pro 3 and I had the N-trig active digitizer in hand. I went to do something on my Z2 and used the pen by accident. To my surprise it works really well. I've gone around and I can find anything about the Z2 supporting this tech, which is completely amazing to use. Honestly it's the least expected most useful feature I've ever come across.
I tried some of my other phone and none of them support the n-trig active digitizer.
Does anyone have any more info on this? Is pressure sensitivity also supported?
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Hi, I saw same thing with my xperia z2, It is working with Microsoft surface pro 3 Stylus as well as ordinary pencil . What is very interesting is that oryginal Sony Stylus VGP-STD2 does not work with xperia z2 (very shatter and unreliable) although both Pen work great with vaio Fit11 2in1. Another phone that I tested was Lumia 920 and stylus worked as well as pencil.
I couldn't find any app that sports pressure sensitivity so I cant tel is it working with Z2. Non of my Samsung's Note pens worked with Z2 or VaioFit.
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Hi, I saw same thing with my xperia z2, It is working with Microsoft surface pro 3 Stylus as well as ordinary pencil . What is very interesting is that oryginal Sony Stylus VGP-STD2 does not work with xperia z2 (very shatter and unreliable) although both Pen work great with vaio Fit11 2in1. Another phone that I tested was Lumia 920 and stylus worked as well as pencil.
I couldn't find any app that sports pressure sensitivity so I cant tel is it working with Z2. Non of my Samsung's Note pens worked with Z2 or VaioFit.
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Thanks for the info. I was wondering what the note uses for digitizer/stylus tech. Clearly it is not N-trig. I am still very excited about this. My surface pro 3 pen is just so damn handy, especially when I am using my phone AND my surface at the same time. I still think sony has made a mistake by not advertising this!
I found oddly a pencil works yet a pen and a common stylus will not?
Neither does the Note 10.1 stylus
On a lark yesterday, I tried using an HP Synaptics stylus with the 7840. It works. I might assume that the Dell Synaptics stylus works as well. Doesn't work with WACOM or N-trig or S-pen. Works with Synaptics.
Downloaded Google Handwriting from the Play Store. It works.
I can draw, navigate, write, browse all with a stylus.
Unadvertised, but thank you Dell.
7840, Lollipop 5.0.1, Rooted.
This is exactly what I need to know . . .
yet I'm not sure I understand.
Just got this Venue 8 7000/7480 tablet as a Father's Day gift, have spent hours trying to figure out if there's a stylus/app that would work for handwriting that saves the notes as a text file. It is still in the box actually, didn't want to open it as this function is a deal breaker for me since I'd like to use it in meetings at work.
My confusion comes from frankly not knowing the difference between types of stylus inputs and the only one the Dell website lists under accessories wouldn't seem to work for writing, it has the larger mesh bulb that appears to be a replacement for a finger.
Dell Chat wasn't worth a chit, they only gave me a link to tech that was dead.
I did see that Dell lists "Active Stylus 750-AAGN" but that doesn't show as compatible with this tablet - is this HP stylus in your post the same thing and is that why you suggest it would work?
Any advice would be appreciated here as I decide if I should keep this or return it.
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The HP active stylus (Synaptics-based) is here: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-active-stylus-silver/1169103.p?id=1219473261320&skuId=1169103
The Dell active stylus you mention utilizes the same Synaptics technology as the HP and as does another active stylus from Acer (I think). You are correct in that the Dell stylus is not listed as being compatible. That being the case, Dell might in the future remove the functionality in a firmware update.
One thing noticed is that there is no indication on the screen if the stylus is hovering just above the surface (a small dot or arrow, for example).
After playing around with this stylus and the 7840 for a couple of days, I'm pretty happy with how well it works. I haven't found a calibration routine or app, but haven't found a need to use one yet, either, so that is good.
As for the experience, I'm just getting started. The Synaptics technology is in its infancy and is not as flexible as WACOM or N-trig -- fewer levels of pressure sensitivity (important for artists), for example. The handwriting recognition and accuracy is a function of the Google handwriting app and it seems to work pretty well and quickly in recognizing my mediocre penmanship.
Much obliged. Maybe I should put my 15y/o tech consultant on it to investigate further since he was responsible for selecting this model in the first place. Otherwise he'll just fight with his little brother all day while not mowing the lawn.
And again, pardon my ignorance, but since you have rooted your device would that have anything to do with "unlocking" this feature? He could root mine if needed.
You're very welcome. I don't know if rooting affected the implementation of the stylus. I wish I had tested before upgrading from KitKat or rooting.
We'll see how it goes.
As far as I know, any 'active' stylus should work e.g. stylus with a battery. I've been using the joyfactory x1 recharchable (cant post link, not enough msgs) through a anti glare screen protector for about a month with no issues, only downside is that unless you get a blue tooth stylus there is no auto palm recognition so you cant be lazy and put your hand down.
Incorrect. Active stylus such as those based on N-trig technology (Surface 3 (Pro), Sony Vaio, older Fujitsu) do not work. The joyfactory x1 is another technology that generates an electro-magnetic field that simulates a finger, thus would work on almost any tablet with a touchscreen.
Oops, thanks for the clarification!
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Incorrect. Active stylus such as those based on N-trig technology (Surface 3 (Pro), Sony Vaio, older Fujitsu) do not work. The joyfactory x1 is another technology that generates an electro-magnetic field that simulates a finger, thus would work on almost any tablet with a touchscreen.
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I have been using my Dell Stylus from my Venue 8 Pro and it works great. It supports palm rejection and the second button works as an eraser in apps like sketchbook pro.
That is correct, the Dell stylus used for the Venue 8 Pro (and certain other Dell) is Synaptics-based.
thanx OP I was looking all over the internet for someone who had tested stylus on Venue Android and never found anything.. I ordered the Dell one 750-AAGN and it works a lot better than I expected, not as good as my Ntrig surface pro 3 but pretty close and that is perfect for an active stylus that according to their costumer support was not compatible with my device.
I am currently using Papyrus for note taking I use Microsoft Onenote on all my other devices but for some reason I get like 2 seconds delay from pen and finger on onenote. Its been a problem I have been having since I bought the tablet maybe is a hardware compatibility issue. App works great on my other tablets without delays... I wish I could get it to work on the 7840.
In case anyone else is looking for active stylus for Dell Venue 7840 Android the Dell 750-AAGN works great!
The secret still works with 5.1, rooted!
Not working with European version?
I've bought the Dell Venue Active Stylus 750-AAHC, which should be the same pen as the 750-AAGN one except that it is sold in the EU. Unfortunately it does not work with my Dell Venue 8 7840 at all. Do you guys have any clue if there might be a (also secret) difference between the two versions? Or might my tablet be incompatible to Synaptics stylus at all? Any hint or idea would be appreciated.
Nobody got a clue? I contacted the Dell Support which claims that there isn't any technical difference between the EU and the US model of the stylus. Also there is no difference between single devices having the same model number. Anyway they also say that they do not have any information about the used technology or at least they do not want to support any unofficial feature. So all in all nothing really new that could solve my problem.
Is the stylus actually working (test stylus on another Synaptics device)? Battery polarity correct?
Also, I don't see any on-screen identification (pointer, dot) that the stylus is detected. It just works.
Ok, so I got myself an active stylus, the 750-AAHC, the european model. It works, perfectly. I contacted the Dell support and they confirmed it´s officially supported. No clue why they don´t advertise that. I mean seriously, a 4K! display and handwriting? That is amazing. And not only that, it even supports palm rejection - you can use it like actual paper.
Meaning: That tablet just got even better.
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Ok, so I got myself an active stylus, the 750-AAHC, the european model. It works, perfectly. I contacted the Dell support and they confirmed it´s officially supported. No clue why they don´t advertise that. I mean seriously, a 4K! display and handwriting? That is amazing. And not only that, it even supports palm rejection - you can use it like actual paper.
Meaning: That tablet just got even better.
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Interesting information, thanks. So I guess either my pen or my tablet is broken. Will test it with another pen asap.
The Dell support really confirmed it as an official feature? That's really strange as they denied it before.
By the way, the tablet has a high resolution display, but it isn't 4K.
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I've bought another 750-AAHC stylus, but it isn't working, either. So I guess either my tablet is broken (since the very first day) or the stylus feature isn't supported by all 7840 devices. The second option would explain why it isn't advertised by Dell.
Venue 10 7040 works too!!
Just recieved my venue 10 7040 tablet. On a hunch (due to this thread) I preordered a 750-AAGN stylus hoping it would work....well surprise surprise it works perfectly. No hover pointer but it swipes, selects, scrolls and seems to have the palm rejection everyone else is talking about while I'm drawing. Totally impressed. This is getting pretty close to my dream device, 2-in-1, OLED, digitizer stylus...only wish it was 12" and Windows 10, but for now this is awesome.
Thanks OP. To those having issue with the 750-AAHC I'd suggest trying the 750-AAGN if possible since I thought the AAHC was for wacom devices not synaptics.
Works for me, too, on a new Dell Venue 10 7000 (7040) with 750-AAGN stylus. I sweat for an hour or so and was disappointed that it didn't work at first. After the Android 5.1 update everything worked like a charm.
Responsiveness and functionality varies tremendously between applications:
Autodesk Sketchbook is by far the most responsive. Recognizes the 3rd button as an eraser. No pressure sensitivity.
OneNote and Evernote have considerable lag. This can be improved by reducing the pen size (drawing fewer pixels?). No eraser. Some challenges with registering palm presses as finger input.
Squid slightly worse than OneNote and Evernote, in my experience.
LectureNotes (Trial Version) seems very responsive. After configuring a few options it maps buttons 2 and 3 to erase. Seems very nice.
Google Handwriting Keyboard is a bit of a disappointment. Not so responsive, but thick pen.
Keep in mind that I am left handed, so palm rejection is likely more critical for me as I almost always have a hand on the screen when writing.
So I've been using my Mate 10 pro for a few days now, but I'm encountering a few problems with NFC payments.
First a short background.
Most payment terminals here in my country have the NFC chip under the screen, and the screen is a bit deeper than the bezels around. But with my S7 with a thick Spigen skin, I just had to lay the phone flat and before even touching it, it would work.
With the mate though, it's like I need to force the NFC contact point against the terminal, and sometimes even remove the phone from the included case for it to work.
Anyone else having similar issues?
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So I've been using my Mate 10 pro for a few days now, but I'm encountering a few problems with NFC payments.
First a short background.
Most payment terminals here in my country have the NFC chip under the screen, and the screen is a bit deeper than the bezels around. But with my S7 with a thick Spigen skin, I just had to lay the phone flat and before even touching it, it would work.
With the mate though, it's like I need to force the NFC contact point against the terminal, and sometimes even remove the phone from the included case for it to work.
Anyone else having similar issues?
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I guess, you know that the NFC chip is placed right above the cameras? (At least it is true on non-pro Mate 10, which I own). On my Mate 10 the NFC works from approximately 1.5-2 cm.
My Mate 10 Pro NFC works great never had any issues with it ok terminals or transport in the UK
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I guess, you know that the NFC chip is placed right above the cameras? (At least it is true on non-pro Mate 10, which I own). On my Mate 10 the NFC works from approximately 1.5-2 cm.
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Yeah, the location was marked in the plastic protector... I'll give it a few tries more, otherwise I'll contact Huawei for assistance. Thanks go their service is quite fast here.
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I have problem with weak NFC, I use wuawei original protection case on mate 20 pro (BLA-L29) . I have understunt that the problem caming out from the protection case.
Please if enyone know the hardware possition of NFC rx/tx sensor in order to cut the protection case on this area for better comunication of rx/tx or if there is any other trick or any protection case with no NFC radiation reduction.
Greetings from Greece, Nikos.
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I have problem with weak NFC, I use wuawei original protection case on mate 20 pro (BLA-L29) . I have understunt that the problem caming out from the protection case.
Please if enyone know the hardware possition of NFC rx/tx sensor in order to cut the protection case on this area for better comunication of rx/tx or if there is any other trick or any protection case with no NFC radiation reduction.
Greetings from Greece, Nikos.
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NFC is located on the top back, above cameras. I never had any issues with any of my cases it also worked with the standard case from the box.
Paying with NFC is no problem at all, I never have to even tough the terminal.
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NFC is located on the top back, above cameras. I never had any issues with any of my cases it also worked with the standard case from the box.
Paying with NFC is no problem at all, I never have to even tough the terminal.
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Thank you for your answer, the protection case that I used is folder type, with a hard plastic cover in the back and a fat protection rubber.
I am forced to remove the phone from the protection case for payment, otherwise the terminals accept the payment after 3 to 4 attempt.
This results in the shopkeepers losing his trust for the payment.
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Huawei mate 20 pro (LYA-L29)
Thank you for your answer, the protection case that I used is folder type, with a hard plastic cover in the back and a fat protection rubber.
I am forced to remove the phone from the protection case for payment, otherwise the terminals accept the payment after 3 to 4 attempt.
This results in the shopkeepers losing his trust for the payment.
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I'm also switched from mate 10 pro to mate 20 pro and today just felt in same situation, with this difference that my mate 20 pro is absolutely naked - no cases nothing. With mate 10 pro 1 of 20 payments are not transmitted by the NFC currently but with mate 20 pro - this morning 4/4 was unsuccessful on pos terminal that I'v used a lot last year (I know exactly where is the NFC coil of it). I'm not sure - the problem is in me (not sure where is the mate 20 pro coil) or in the phone......
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I'm also switched from mate 10 pro to mate 20 pro and today just felt in same situation, with this difference that my mate 20 pro is absolutely naked - no cases nothing. With mate 10 pro 1 of 20 payments are not transmitted by the NFC currently but with mate 20 pro - this morning 4/4 was unsuccessful on pos terminal that I'v used a lot last year (I know exactly where is the NFC coil of it). I'm not sure - the problem is in me (not sure where is the mate 20 pro coil) or in the phone......
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Τhe NFC coil in the mate 20 pro, is above the cameras and itworking in order.
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Today i tried again and it works - thank you for your advise. On the stiker at the back of phone was a left arrow at the right of the camera square, so I'v think that the NFC coil is under the camera . But today I'v payed successfully when i place the upper part of the phone on the POS terminal. 10x!
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Τhe NFC coil in the mate 20 pro, is above the cameras and itworking in order.
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