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Hi everyone,
and thanks in advance for any help / advice that you may have for me.
I'll start off with my question, before I unload all of my information. I simply would like to know exactly what type of USB Connection the Sony Tablet has, and therefore, what specific USB Cable I need to buy in order to connect it to my PC running Vista.
I bought a Sony Tablet and have been surprised the lack of information in regards to the USB connectivity of the device. Specifically, the exact 'cable type' required to connect the device to a PC. Everywhere I have read so far, it simply says USB Micro, or USB 2.0 micro. But when I try use the micro USB cable that I currently use with my Xperia Play phone (which works fine for PC transfer with the phone) it's doesn't work at all with the Sony Tablet. It doesn't even register on the PC when I plug the cable into the tablet. Just nothing.
Since then, I have read a lot about USB, and found that there are different types, like 'Mini USB' versus 'Micro USB'. Apparently there is also Micro USB 'A' and Micro USB 'B'. And finally, apparently there is 4 pin micro usb and 5 pin micro usb type.
hope this all makes sense, many thanks guys.
Austab.
This tablet uses micro USB, I'm pretty sure the cable for your Xperia should work fine with the tablet. Perhaps you plugged it in upside down?
Thanks for the reply, I agree with your thought train. If it works with the Xperia, then surely it should work with tablet. I'll try it again after work today, and confirm. Is it actually possible to plug the cable in the wrong way around?
I'll kick myself if I did! Thanks again, cheers.
Austab.
It cannot be plugged in upside down, unless you use extreme force and break it.
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But yeah, this cable *should work, if it works with your Xperia Play. In principle there is only one kind of micro-USB cable (well, actually it could have either regular type A *OR micro type A connector at one end, but let's keep it simple. Mini-USB is a different kind and A and B are just connector types.
See this picture with different USB connectors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types-usb_new.svg
Your cable should have a regular USB A connector (the one on the top left) at one end and micro-USB B connector at the other end (the one on the bottom right).
Yeah, it should work; I'm using the same USB cable that I use with my Xperia Arc.
For what it's worth, I've been having issues too. Mostly windows fails to find the drivers and install them. I've talked to multiple Sony reps and have tried multiple computers but haven't had any luck. Maybe it's a bad cable but I have had Windows detect the device...just unable to install the plug-n-play drivers.
Systems I've tried it on:
Custom built - Windows 7 with Service Pack 1
Dell - Windows XP Service Pack 3
Sony Vaio Laptop - Windows XP Service Pack 3
I had the same problem on both of tablet P and tablet S. I can tell you, its more about luck than the wrong cable type! At the end, it just works after retrying a few plugs and unplugs.
Hope they can get a fix for this soon.
Hey again guys, I've now tried the cable again with my Sony Tablet, and I'm definitely plugging it in correctly. There's no response whatsoever on the tablet or the PC once I've plugged the cable in.
When using the same cable on my Xperia play, the phone will instantly start charging once I plug the cable in to the PC. However, the PC doesn't actually recognize the phone as a device (i.e. it doesn't show up in windows explorer, or launch the Ericsson Phone Software, as it once did). It charges the phone, but doesn't talk to it, if that makes sense.
So it would seem that some Micro USB cables are good for charging only, but not for data transfer / PC recognition.
I'll buy a different cable tomorrow so will let you know if it works then.
Thanks again for all the replies guys I appreciate it.
cheers again,
Austab
Looks like the cable is faulty then and you have to try another one.
I bet one of data wires is broken, or a data contact inside connector is broken (worn down), because when you connect your Xperia Play it should also be recognized as a device.
Then again, maybe there is something wrong with your computer.
Can you try the same cable on another computer, and see if the device is recognized, before you buy a new cable. Or let them check the cable at the store to see if it really is faulty.
My understanding is you need an OTG USB cable, (On The Go) - this is what you need to connect USB keys and other hard-drives and so therefore I would think external PCs too.
I bought a nokia one for around 5 pounds from amazon, do a search for OTG USB cables,
thanks
Pratish
He wants to connect it to a computer, not connect external devices to it.
So he needs a regular micro-USB cable.
the cable is USB Host finde with this name
People, wtf are you talking?!
He *does not* need USB host (OTG) cable. That's for connecting USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, USB-storage etc., to your tablet.
He wants to connect his tablet to a computer. For that he needs a regular type A USB to type B micro-USB cable.
Hi,
Would seem like op had a charging cable, not data one. As stated, he need a regular data cable with appropriate connectors. OTG has nothing to do with it.
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Hi Crazzzik,
so you're saying that there are micro usb cables for charging only, and then there are micro usb cables for data + charging etc? That would explain things perfectly for me, as my cable seems to work for charging devices, but not communicating with a PC (i.e. data transfer).
I'm getting a new cable today - sorted!
Many thanks everyone for your help & advice
Austab
Yes when I got the cable for my sony tablet s, I saw several usb cables that would fit the tablet, but on the package it said specifically "for charging only, not meant for data transfer", so they do make the cabkes just for charging, as a PC tech, I was a little embarrassed that I just found this out this weekend.
Thanks
I also got a microUSB-cable adapter, it works fine with usb driver / joypad and keyboard
but not sure if it's capable for connecting with PC or even for charging
hello all,
I recently bought the usb cable for the tablet they sell at the sony store. The micro usb to female normal usb ( I think you know what im talking about). It is sony tablet specific. The micro usb end of the cable is square instead of tappered at one side. it worked fantastic for plugging in and usb deviced to the tablet, but when I tried to plug it into my galaxy s, it wouldn't fit. just thought those thinking of buying one would appreciate the heads up so its not a shock if they try to use it on any other devices. Im sure you can find that same cable at any well stocked computer shop.
i borrowed a htc wildfire s cable, this works and installs drivers.
Hello! I'm using an Atrix MB860 with CM7-MROM, rooted and unlocked. I have a USB-female to micro-b-male USB-OTG cable (yes it is an OTG cable with pins 5 and 4 shorted or whatever), a powered USB hub where the red +5v line is coming from a 5v, 600mA power supply, not the usb cable, and 3 different USB OTG host controller apps.
My powered USB hub works just fine on both of my computers, so I know that its not the issue. But I can't get my Atrix, or at least the USB OTG apps I've tried, to recognize any device I plug into the hub, or even straight into the cable. I've tried 2 different wired keyboards, a wireless keyboard/mouse, an xbox 360 wireless controller receiver, and 4 different USB flash drives, and NOTHING works on the Atrix (but they all work on my PC through the same hub). I have tried restarting the USB OTG apps, I've tried pressing the 'refresh' button in them, I've tried restarting the entire phone with the USB OTG cable plugged in on bootup, but nothing works!
What am I doing wrong?! I know this phone supports USB OTG, I've seen videos of it working on youtube.
EDIT - Okay, my powered hub + otg cable combo is confirmed working just fine on my friend's Motorola Xoom tablet running stock Android 4.whatever firmware. It recognizes both my keyboard and my flash drive plugged into the hub, at the same time. But when I unplug it from the tablet and plug it into my Atrix phone, so that the keyboard/flash drive are plugged into the EXACT SAME ports on the hub, my Motorola Atrix does not recognize them at all.
What. The. Hell.
i dont think atrix does OTG. sorry mate.
Whaaat? But there's numerous threads in here about people getting it to work just fine on the Atrix!
Also, there's videos like this on youtube of it working fine on an MB860:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRa9aXO3Tog
I think it only works on blur gb. You need nebtop.apk, so you can simulate docking the phone. That should enable otg with your powered hub
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Hello there,
unfortunately, I couldn't get USB OTG working, even though it should support it according to various spec pages.
My setup is following: LG G5 <-> USB Type C to Micro USB adapter <-> Micro USB-OTG adapter (2.0) <-> USB 2.0 thumb drive (see attached picture)
The light of the drive is not lighting up. So maybe the G5 isn't powering the device?
I've tried three different USB-OTG adapters without success. All three are working on a G4 as well as on a Nexus 7 (2012) flawlessly.
The USB Type C to Micro USB adapters should work as well. Charging (normal and QuickCharge) is working perfectly fine, even ADB does as it should so the data pins should be connected. However, both adapters lack D+ and D- pins for USB 2.0 on one side. This should not be a problem, though. (see attached picture)
Did somebody succeed in using OTG in a similar setup?
The usb c to micro adapter is your problem
Hey budd
this one works
rarely found :laugh:
http://www.amazon.com/Type-C-MicroU...F8&qid=1465049962&sr=8-11&keywords=otg+c+type
Thank you for your answers
outadaprk said:
The usb c to micro adapter is your problem
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Is it because the USB controller needs to be configured to be in OTG-mode by using another resistor value?
A_hijazi_ said:
Hey budd
this one works
rarely found :laugh:
http://www.amazon.com/Type-C-MicroU...F8&qid=1465049962&sr=8-11&keywords=otg+c+type
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Do you know whether they comply with the USB 3.1 specifications?
I have the same issue so i used the usb type c to micro adapter on an usb cable and it connected to my computer just fine and i could transfer data is it still the the adapter?
You do know they have started releasing type c OTG cables and adapters without the need of converting from micro usb to type c, right?
See the pictures below. These are just some of the types you can get, soon enough there will be more types of otg and more adapters for type c usb
If not then see the links provided
According to their titles, it says that they comply with 3.1 specs..
On ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=type+c+otg&_sacat=0
On amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=type+c+otg
Hope this help :good: and also, let us know, if you decide to buy it, how it goes. Chances are very high
Thank you for your reply .
I am aware of those adapters, I just hoped I would be able to use my OTG adapters I already had at home. I'll try to buy one later that year and will report back which one's working…
Hello, sorry for my english, i'm from germany! But i have found the problem, why you can't connect to the usb storage! If I disconnect my sd card in the settings and connect my otg device, i can find the usb stick! My lg g5 can only connect one device in time!
Not the adapter ...
I was on lineage OS until end of May and did not get the OTG working with any adapter what so ever.
OTG worked with the Stock Kernel and now I am running Resurrection Remix' version of April 8th 2017. Since Resurrection Remix is based on lineageos - as expected - the OTG got broken in later Resurrection Remix releases.
So something weird happened in the firmware between April 8th and now.
This one works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019XSJGN6
Any news on LG G5 and broken OTG?
i have the same issue, i can connect my G5 with Adapters to my PC... there Data Transfer is working
But no usbstick or usb led or usb mouse is running with choetech or anker usb adapters.
i also tried this one
https://www.amazon.de/Adapter-CHOET...id=1498804949&sr=1-18&keywords=choetech+usb+c
it seems that the usb devices are getting no power from the usb port
Lord Morpheus said:
This one works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019XSJGN6
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Tried many adapters that claim to be h850-OTG-comaptible (have now 8 of those). It can't just be the adapter, because earlier version of Lineage OS and RR worked and still work.
But I am glad that you have found a solution for yourself
ullsig said:
Tried many adapters that claim to be h850-OTG-comaptible (have now 8 of those). It can't just be the adapter, because earlier version of Lineage OS and RR worked and still work.
But I am glad that you have found a solution for yourself
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I've already poked our G5 maintainer about it and he'll investigate the issue when he gets back from vacation in a bit over 2 weeks. It has to be something that LOS changed upstream and he'll try to work it out when he gets back
The same issue here. When I first time connected OTG adapter G5 showed notification about charging and when I clicked that it could be changed to multimedia device or something similar. It connected the USB key successfully but disconnected few seconds later. Never ever got this notification again when connected any other USB keys. Nowhere in the settings can be found any USB options.. Any idea how to fix this?
I have the same issue.
I have a number of usb c otg adapters and devices. Like cameras (endoscope). Drone telemetry receiver. Programmable LED spinner that uses an android app.
All of these things worked in the past. Connecting to my LG G5 resulted in a popup where I would choose which app to run.
Now when I plug anything into the usb port using an otg configuration, nothing pops up. Nothing happens.
Phone still charging ok via usb.
Hello all
I finally gave up on OTG, after having bought 8 so-called LG G5 compatible OTG adapters for half a fortune
BUT for everybody who is in the same big despare as I was, I - by chance - finally found a great solution for myself.
"SanDisk Connect Wireless Stick" with integrated WiFi (mine has 32 GB), provides copying, streaming and whatsoever to your phone - simple and simply genius.
see also:
https://www.sandisk.co.uk/home/mobile-device-storage/connect-wireless-stick
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sandisk.connect
Plug it into the PC and use it like a normal USB stick and connect to Phone via WiFi and optionally share with other mobile devices.
For home internet you can even use the stick and WiFi at the same time. Whoever invented this gimmik may have been aware of all our issues.
Just works like a charm. Unbelievable!
Instead of waiting "til kingdom come", stop posting, complaining, waiting - at least I will stop, because obviously nothing's going on in this direction.
A little Addition: when you have IP-config (or similar) installed on your LG G5 and you open IP-config
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paksoftwares.ipconfig&hl=en
then connect the WiFi of the PC to the SanDisk Stick and type the gateway-address shown in IP-config into the URL-line of your browser
You can then transfer data between phone and PC directly via the SanDisk Connect WiFi stick ... how cool is that?
Mine works fine. Had issues with certain kernels though...
Bump
Still same Problem in RR.
The Adapter works in TWRP version 3.1.0.0 but in the newer versions also not.
I don't even get a pupup and devices Art n't powered...
Is the typhon kernel capable oft handling otg?
my experience
I am using the stock Android OS 8 on an LG G5 from Fido in Canada, specifically the “LGE LG-H831” variant according to the Google Play Store. I have a microUSB plug↔full-size USB Type A socket USB OTG adapter from StarTech that works with my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 but I needed a USB Type C plug↔full-size USB Type A socket USB OTG adapter now that I have switched from the Galaxy Note 3 to the LG G5. I bought five of this model of adapter (in red colour) on eBay for only around 5 CAD total including shipping from Asia to Metro Vancouver, Canada, which took between 20 and 30 days but buying this type of product on eBay from Asia cost way less than buying it locally:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283235483653
Sorry, I got ahead of myself in writing my story because I am tired and I did this USB OTG stuff at least a week or two ago by now. I have two models of microUSB socket↔USB Type C plug adapters, one black one from StarTech and one white unbranded one that may have been included with the LG G5 but I do not know for certain because my father gave me this LG G5; I am not the original recipient/user of this LG G5. I could not get any of the USB devices I tried working with the LG G5 with these two types of adapters connected together. I tried with a USB SSD, a USB keyboard with a microUSB connector (so actually using only one adapter in this case), a USB keyboard with a normal full-size USB Type A plug, and a USB↔Ethernet adapter. That is why I searched the Internet and found this topic. Then the adapters I linked above arrived. With the adapter I linked above, all of the USB devices that did not work (other than the keyboard with the microUSB connector) now seem to work with the LG G5. I was not able to network the LG G5 via Ethernet in the time I had available to spend on that project but I think this was only a software problem because the hardware seemed to be working. When I say the USB devices did not work with the LG G5 with the old adapters, I mean nothing seemed to happen when I connected the USB devices to the LG G5 using the old adapters. With the new adapter, the USB devices seem to work when connected to the LG G5 without any special action. I upgraded the stock OS on the LG G5 from Android OS 7 to Android OS 8 before I began seriously using the LG G5 because I did not want to lose the time customising the software if the in-place upgrade of the OS failed. Almost all of my experience with the LG G5 is with the stock Android OS 8, not Android OS 7 nor earlier versions. I have not and will not try to replace the stock OS on the LG G5 because I had a bad experience with replacing the OS on the Galaxy Note 3 even after I reverted to the stock OS. My LG G5 seems to still be unrooted, which seems to not matter in practice for my use case so far.
I purchased a USB 3.1 docking station model T3527-VIII+ from ineo on Amazon. USB 3 to type C adapter comes with it. I use the adapter with my LG G5 RS988 without a problem. Devices are: regular USB drives, USB keyboards and USB mice.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B073W4YDFQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
One of the things I’m really amazed by with the modern PDAs is the USB OTG. So just as I found out that my Galaxy has it, I got myself an adapter (for less than $3) and tested it with several devices. Here’re my results:
USB flash drives: every single one I tried worked perfectly except a 1 GB drive of unknown vendor, which wasn't even recognized by the Galaxy, works okay with PCs thought.
External HDDs: the Toshiba 500 GB USB 3.0 drive wasn't recognized and didn't show any signs of life. Surprisingly, a 320 GB SATA WD Blue in a USB bay was detected and spinned up, but the Galaxy didn't recognize the file system and asked if I want to format it. I didn't, since the disk had some data I needed, but there's definitely a potential.
Input devices: all the mice and keyboards I tried worked as they should, both wired and wireless, which was expected. Which wasn't, is that DualShock3 controller from my PS3 was immediately recognized too without any additional drivers or software, it even let me control the menus. Sadly, that wasn't the case with my Logitech Freedom 2.4 wireless joystick. I guess the power wasn't enough.
Output devices: Sennheiser wired USB headset (basically, the USB sound adapter with the headset attached) worked as it should. HP LaserJet P1102 printer didn't work even with USB printing service installed.
Overally, I got much more then I dreamed of, especially since I heard that the OTG is very poor on a modern devices. DualShock3 success is especially cool.
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
W00fer said:
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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Very interesting. A different pinout for OTG. Yeah I thought it was the combo that shoud have worked.
The little adapter comes with the device is said to be charge and sync. Because when connected to my PC it works. for data transfer.
http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/usb_cables/KS-is-KS-297-Perehodnik-USB-AF-USB-C-M-OTG_279425.html
Here’s the one I got. The site is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explanatory.
I have an OTG now from Aliexpress. It works for my A3 2017. 90 degree angle connector.
Now onto an USB-C to HDMI. The official Samsung EE-HG950 does not work.
Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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So if i understand correctly the little "micro usb connector" that comes with the A5 2017 won't work for anything other than charging? I tried using it with a regular otg cable and it doesn't detect any flash drive, not even a ps3 controller, i don't even get the notification that a usb is plugged in.
But whats weird is if i use a male to male usb cable and connect to to a pc it works just fine. Any idea whats causing this?
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
shrekpido21 said:
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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The adapter from the box is just for charging and data transfer to compuer. If you want to use your flasdisk you can buy a new usb otg for type c slot.
Does out tablet support otg and charging at the same time?
Tried by using hootoo ht-u001 type c adapter and a sd card, otg is disabled once the charger is plugged in.
SurfinSpirit said:
Tried by using hootoo ht-u001 type c adapter and a sd card, otg is disabled once the charger is plugged in.
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Do you have a native firmware MIUI?
You can experiment, first connect the charging going to the hub, and then the periphery of the USB flash drive or keyboard and mouse..
and then vice versa, first the periphery and then the power to the hub
on my tablet with micro us it mattered... Can you try different variants
I guess you will need something like the one in the link below that supports USB Power Delivery.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...469.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3b144c4dDoroZN
It is mainly for Macbooks but it is compatible (according to the sellers) with most Smartphones and Tablets that use USB Type-C.
I just ordered one for a project so I'll know in several weeks (when it arrives from China) if it works with the Mi Pad 4.
Update: I've just checked the hub you used and it is also with USB Power Delivery... oh well let's see if I'll get lucky or...
anyone have success with this? i have a few adapters and hubs that work with everything else but not the pad 4.