I am seriously considering either a Mate 10 or the to be announced Honor V10 but I do have a few questions about EMUI 8 (seeing that lineage might be unlike to be supported):
1. What Bluetooth audio Codecs are supported? aptx? Aptx HD? LDAC?
2. Can one use volume keys to skip media files in play music?
3. What about audio equalizer?
4. Is there any functionality to manage permissions in excess of what android 6+ offers (think lineage privacy guard)?
5. I understand Substratum works, correct?
Thanks a lot for any answers.
1. Mate 10 supports SBC, AAC, AptX, AptX HD, LDAC
2. No, only the play/pause button, double click for next, triple click for previous
3. Yes there is, called Huawei Histen with Equalizer, 3D audio (the both cannot be used at the same time) and Headset type settings (in ear, Ear Buds and headphones), only available with a wired headset
4. Yes, app by app basis
5. No idea
5. Yes, it does, but currently its rather pointless to use since at least I have not found a theme that fully supports Emui 8.0 and only parts of system/apps can be themed and more importantly there's currently no option to theme quick toggle/notification area.
See attached screenshot of themed Whatsapp through substratum on un-rooted mate 10.
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2. No, only the play/pause button, double click for next, triple click for previous
4. Yes, app by app basis
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Thanks for the answers, guys. Mostly sounds like I could probably live with it without rooting (which is important for corporate BYOD).
Two clarifications:
2. So I can use the mute button on the headset to skip using double click? Not perfect but also not horrible if its reliable.
4. Can I set defaults? Ideally, default would be no permissions at all (problem with the Google approach is that old apps can still steal all data before you get around manually disabling their access)
Currently trying to decide between Mate 10 (expensive, glass sandwich but good cpu and phenomenal screen to body ratio/camera), Mate 9 (cheap now and metal body with fairly decent camera but older more powerhungry CPU) and whatever Honor will come up with (probably cheap, good CPU but unknown build/3.5mm availability/unknown cam prowess). OP5t is sort of also ran by now, OP continously screwing people in various ways and refusing to use Treble sort of killed it for me. S8, while nice and very well priced now (and Grace UX is actually bearable unlike Touchwiz) is out because of the retarded curved screen.
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Thanks for the answers, guys. Mostly sounds like I could probably live with it without rooting (which is important for corporate BYOD).
Two clarifications:
2. So I can use the mute button on the headset to skip using double click? Not perfect but also not horrible if its reliable.
4. Can I set defaults? Ideally, default would be no permissions at all (problem with the Google approach is that old apps can still steal all data before you get around manually disabling their access)
Currently trying to decide between Mate 10 (expensive, glass sandwich but good cpu and phenomenal screen to body ratio/camera), Mate 9 (cheap now and metal body with fairly decent camera but older more powerhungry CPU) and whatever Honor will come up with (probably cheap, good CPU but unknown build/3.5mm availability/unknown cam prowess). OP5t is sort of also ran by now, OP continously screwing people in various ways and refusing to use Treble sort of killed it for me. S8, while nice and very well priced now (and Grace UX is actually bearable unlike Touchwiz) is out because of the retarded curved screen.
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2. Yes it's quite reliable from my usage
4. You can manually disable all permissions in the settings
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Hello everyone. I have the skullcandy FMJ headphones but when i double click the inline control to skip track, it also calls back the most recent dialed number simultaneously. Does anyone know of any way to fix this? Preferably a way to disable the callback function?
download headset blocker from the market and you'll be good to go.
Thanks for your help, but I'm not looking for something to completely disable my headset as I'm not really getting any phantom calls, rather I need something to get around activating callback and next track at the same time.
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Thanks for your help, but I'm not looking for something to completely disable my headset as I'm not really getting any phantom calls, rather I need something to get around activating callback and next track at the same time.
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What you want is actually Headset Button Controller, it'll allow you to change the stock behavior for double click plus it adds triple click, click and hold, and several other functions (or not, your choice). It's like $2-3 on the Market and there's a trial version I think. I use it with my MEElec M9P and it works perfectly. I'm surprised the app isn't more widely known since this is something manufacturers rarely get right on Android. Oh and it'll work with the stock music player and/or other players of your choosing.
If that's too steep (really?) there's a couple free music players that let you alter this behavior within the player only, I believe Winamp or dbPowerAmp do that, not sure. I like the stock player and it's integrated lock screen controls.
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What you want is actually Headset Button Controller, it'll allow you to change the stock behavior for double click plus it adds triple click, click and hold, and several other functions (or not, your choice). It's like $2-3 on the Market and there's a trial version I think. I use it with my MEElec M9P and it works perfectly. I'm surprised the app isn't more widely known since this is something manufacturers rarely get right on Android. Oh and it'll work with the stock music player and/or other players of your choosing.
If that's too steep (really?) there's a couple free music players that let you alter this behavior within the player only, I believe Winamp or dbPowerAmp do that, not sure. I like the stock player and it's integrated lock screen controls.
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I use Headset Button Controller with my Sennheiser CX680i earbuds and it works great to control the button functions. You can even have it open an app upon cable insertion or preset volume etc. Great app.
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Thats exactly what I was looking for Thanks!
Not sure if I'm the only one having this issue or not, but I have the T-mobile LG V30 and I'm not able to play sound to two Bluetooth devices at one. I was able to do this very easy on my S8, but on the V30 seems to only allow one device at a time, unless I'm missing something.
If in fact this works for anyone else can you please tell me how you got it to work? So far I only been able to switch to one of the two devices not play at the same time.
I had the same issue. S8 plus I had prior connected easily. I do remember reading about another phone, maybe the HTC U11 having Bluetooth 5.0, but it needed am update to work. Maybe the case with the v30 as well
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I had the same issue and forgot to ask here / search for a solution. It seems I can connect to two Bluetooth speakers simultaneously, but I am then prompted to choose one as an audio listening device, canceling out the other.
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I had the same issue and forgot to ask here / search for a solution. It seems I can connect to two Bluetooth speakers simultaneously, but I am then prompted to choose one as an audio listening device, canceling out the other.
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Yep that exactly what I get, sounds like it will just need to be a software update to fix unless we are missing something which sucks!
They might have decided the quality wasn't what was hoped for. From every review I've seen of BT5 streaming audio to two devices, one is always a hair off from the other. That would be annoying to me.
This requires Android 8, which the V30 does not yet have.
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This requires Android 8, which the V30 does not yet have.
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Don't know where you heard that from? The s8+had this a while ago and that doesn't have official 8.0.
This is where I first learned of the feature, 6 months ago, using a S8 w/ Nougat as a demonstrator.
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Yeah not true S8 and note 8 had it's just a Bluetooth 5.0 thing....
I'm guessing Bluetooth 5.0 means it's allowed but the software is what makes it work....
With the oreo update now released has anyone been able to make this work? I don't see a dual audio settings menu in settings like on an S8
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With the oreo update now released has anyone been able to make this work? I don't see a dual audio settings menu in settings like on an S8
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I can't find it either, it probably doesn't exist.
It's working great on my S9+
Goto settings, connections, Bluetooth, use the three dot menu, click dual Bluetooth.
One down side is you are forced to turn off volume button media control.
Sound is fantastic and so close you cannot hear any sync issues. I'm using two Jbl flip 3's and have tried Deezer & SoundCloud apps.
Have fun!
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It's working great on my S9+
Goto settings, connections, Bluetooth, use the three dot menu, click dual Bluetooth.
One down side is you are forced to turn off volume button media control.
Sound is fantastic and so close you cannot hear any sync issues. I'm using two Jbl flip 3's and have tried Deezer & SoundCloud apps.
Have fun!
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Yes the S9 might have it, but the LG V30 doesn't
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Yes the S9 might have it, but the LG V30 doesn't
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Right, I read up on it and found this video. Oreo has dual BT but needs hardware to support.
I should probrably clarify just a little about the dual-audio for bluetooth. So with Bluetooth 5.0 by default you can connect to multiple devices, but you can only stream audio to one device at a time. The limitation is at the Bluetooth chip (transmitter) level. So if you're looking for "dual-streaming"...the hardware on the V30 won't be able to support.
The S8 has dual because Samsung made it work, not nougat android.
https://youtu.be/T-CPobBQi6E
Yes, Max has finally released a test build (790) to replace 704 so those who like it, log in, download and test away. Read the first page for notes and assess any bugs. I have installed it but at work so no chance to use it yet.
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...te-read-first-post-before-commenting/?page=20
Remember you MUST have a Poweramp forum account and log in to get the download.
I usually use Jet Audio HD but got a bug where it doesn't allow Tom Tom navigation to override audio focus for voice prompts so at present using Player Pro as my daily driver. Here We Go navigation works ok with Jet and Player Pro works fine with either so there's something funny between Tom Tom and Jet.
I hope the new Poweramp works ok, there are bugs and missing features so I will keep the others installed and assess Poweramp as Max addresses the bugs and rolls out more features.
Edit: Having a play with it at work, boss has left for the afternoon.
Whilst my work BT speaker (Jawbone Big Jambox) aux in is connected to my Axon 7 by wire and I played with output settings in Poweramp, set to use Audio Track, I get a marked difference in speaker volume output when switching between Headset HiFi Standard and Super in the phone audio settings. This is working better than before. I'm only on MP3 though so harder to assess as the files are not Hi Res but if I set the Big Jambox to max volume and the phone to max volume then switch from Standard to Super it's much louder and does sound better. That Jambox really cranks on this! It will overload the aux in and I have to set it back two notches so seems to be playing at too high a voltage for the Jambox input jack. Need to play with this some more. Will have a listen on my Backbeat Pro headphones tonight and also in the car on it's HiFi as that has a great dynamic range and quality with BT and wire.
Install it as a secondary player due to missing features. Max the dev will be adding stuff as things progress but I find it not quite fully functional enough to call a daily driver. I feel it's less bugs, more just not all features added and expect as he hears feedback will slowly add them in.
Here's my test setup. Dedicated page aside of my home screens with app shortcuts and widgets for easy comarison listening.
Got it yesterday. Sound-wise, it's solid. Audio flinger reports proper playback at the selected sample rate.
I had some issues with the volume whenever I got a notification even with "Audio ducking" and "short notification interuption" disabled. The volume drops, but never comes back up. I've seen on the PA forum that disabling "Float32" in the OpenSL HD settings (even if you're using Hi-Res output) fixes it. Haven't tested this yet, though. Will do it when I've got my IEMs with me.
Other than that and the obvious UI bugs, it's a good step forward, despite taking 2 years to do it.
Interestingly, the actual volume control behavior was fine on my phone. I have issues with Jet Audio though. It doesn't mesh with Tom Tom navigation app voice prompts. Got fed up with that despite the rest of it working well and great sound and have been using Player Pro for a while. It behaves reliably and now adjusted, sounds great too. Both Jet and Player Pro sound better than Poweramp for me. I have PP set as default player and is on auto start up.
I emailed Jet Audio and Tom Tom about my issue. Tom Tom have been in contact. Nothing at all from Jet. I'll probably end up uninstalling Jet.
I tested this briefly, to say it's a beta preview is an over exaggeration. It's an alpha and is way more alpha than 704. I use Poweramp near everyday and love it but I tried testing 790 but there is so much missing functionality it is just no good for a daily driver. Shame both couldn't exist on the same device, I wouldn't mind testing it then!
TBF I thought that max would have been further on with its development after the time it has taken. I know he is working on this by himself so kudos to the guy but it is so unfinished, for me, it's back to stable 704. I will try again in May with the next test build.
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Yeah, so much functionality missing, I still have it installed but it just doesn't sound as good as Jet or Player Pro for me so the point of having it at all is questionable. Max took so long to get this far with it that others have risen to the top instead.
It reminded me of Neutron a little. You have to really fiddle with it to get good sound. With Player Pro the settings are simpler but just what I need and the good sound is there. Pity the skins are ugly.
With Poweramp, I don't like the wavebar and no skip buttons. The widget wasn't fully functional etc, just not enough I liked in it for a 2 year wait. Will uninstall. See how it goes once worked on further.
Just from curiosity I had a listen with VLC. I have it for video. On wired output it's not great but did sound very nice on my backbeat pro 2 headhones over bluetooth. Not a good audio player though.
After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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I didn't get anything of what you said here, but i'll tell you what i know:
-poweramp won't output hi-res in Oreo, and it will happily tell you that it is - hence, you have to use dumpsys media.audio_flinger as always
-What do you gain by routing everyrthig through the low power DAC? (Again, ZTE said it's a DAC inside the AK4961, not SD820). I wonder if that DAC actually works with 24-bit, but at least it is specced that way.
-What do you mean by the last paragraph? The DAC will output whatever kind of sound you input it, it won't "only" play hi-res.
Btw it's AKM, AKG is a headphone manufacturer
Other thing: Disable hi-res output. Use the normal OpenSL output. That way it'll sound just like good olde Poweramp
If I go back to OpenSL it sounds markedly inferior.
I keep mixing up AKG and AKM lol.
What I meant was if I have the phone set to output on Super setting and the music app is using Hi Res it does seem to sound louder and better in general, as if the phone just puts it through the AKM DAC anyway, despite the app thinking it's using the SD820. With Poweramp 790 alpha the phone will still overload the input on my car hifi when at full volume so it seems it's using the DAC, not the SoC.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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I think it is an Oreo thing. As soon as I went from RR-N to RR-O I noticed my headphone volume dropped significantly. I'd love to know the solution
What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Nope, that's most definitely an Ainur thing. If you installed Poweramp beta, be sure to disable OpenSL ES HD output (supposedly hi-res) because that will lower the volume quite a lot.
Also install the B32+B10 bootloader if possible. That one seems to have fixes for audio.
In stock Nougat it's fine. I turned volume to max and switched between. The volume steps are different but max is fine. I found it sounded better with Float32 switched on.
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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No way, the first and only time I tried USB Player Pro it literally killed my SD Card (I don't understand how)
I've been trawling Google Play and revisiting music apps. It seems Onkyo HF Player has had a bit of a revamp. It's getting quite good now. It has widget and notification functions etc. Still no auto start though. One thing I like is it shows the output in now playing. With my backbeat pro 2 cans in wired mode and turned off the app is playing a 44.1KHz MP3 and upsampling to output at 48K. If I go into phone sound settings and turn on Dolby Atmos then go to the headphone setting and switch between standard and super there's no difference. If I turn off Atmos and switch from standard to super it gets louder and soundstage expands. Interesting....
It still has that great user configurable parametric EQ too
Playing a hi res WAV or FLAC also shows on screen. I assume the Axon 7 won't output above 48K though? I suspect this is running off the SD820.
So if it plays above 192K what does it signify? Nothing?
Or the DAC?
Sup, mates! Hope y'all doing fine.
So, it's been a long hunt but I haven't found anything to satisfy my need.
What I look for the most is:
- 10 band control (or at least, 30~50 hz / 13+kHz control)
- Subwoofer-like bass boost (that really deep bass, not that forced flat thing most bass-boosters deliver)
- Some treble/surround effect, again, so the song doesn't sound flat
I should mention I'll use with Spotify, and Bluetooth speakers (Multilaser PH247), and I have a Xiaomi 5A Note Prime.
So, I have 3 favorites equalizers/bass-boosters:
- NoozXoide, great as a basis for everything, not enough when alone, though
- Neutralizer, amazing band control
- SubwooferBass, deepest bass-booster I've found, one which takes the bass as close as possible to sound subwoofer-alike
But, of course, neither of 3 work together...
Do you guys know of any EQs able to work together, that could deliver what I'm after? Or, at least, do you know of ANY EQ/bass-booster able to work with ANY of the apps I've mentioned?!
Tks guys!
(just to clarify: when I say "work together", it's because in every EQ's/bass-boost combination I tried, the apps would crash as soon as I'd open the other app...)
(btw, I'm not considering root it for now... so V4A is not an option (unless someone know how to install it in a Xiaomi w/out root))
I upgraded from a V35 to a V60 and an very happy with the audio quality.
However, I listen to classic rock. Now I find that either Android, LG or Verizon has limited the LG V60's volume to 75% while using plug-in headset earphones and/or plug-in earbuds.
After two months of phone calls, in person visits to Verizon and web seatching there is nothing that can be done from a user perspective, that I can find. I've tried a couple of "volume booster" apps with zero success.
I've found this limitation using LG's earbuds, every set of earbuds I own, and, with Beyerdynamic 770's (250 ohm, Note, after reading reviews, I assumed the V60 would drive those 770's w/o issue). The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
I've seen mention of "Poweramp" in other audio related threads, used in the thread to boost output from 48khz to 192khz, which should be amazing. But there are several similarly named apps...my guess is the aforementioned app is "PowerAmp Full Version Unlocker", for $5.49. Would this help volume as well?
Is there anyway to defeat this limitation?
Even a 10% increase would be satisfactory.
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes, no effect.
I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Hmm....I know this kind of sucks, but how about an external DAC? Those usually work via USB C and can provide very loud, very clean output.
Op is using a DAC.
The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
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I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Thanks. It seems an app will be the solution. And I've seen Neutron Player mentioned in other threads.
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
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And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
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Right, so Neutron has another setting (and it could be Android too, not sure), that starts the app automatically when you connect headphones. Or at least it offers to start, and you can easily accidentally tap it when it pops up. I wanted to bypass my tablet's volume when I connected my external DAC, since that has a hardwire volume control so I enabled that 'bypass device's volume' control. However, later when I went to use my tablet to watch a quick video I plugged in my every day earphones, probably tapped Neutron player unintentionally, and it started playing at max volume. On my V60 phone that probably isn't super loud, especially from what you're saying. However on my Samsung tablet it was screaming loud. It happened long enough ago that I've forgotten the exact circumstances.
Anyway, that control doesn't permanently bypass the phone's volume control. You can shut it off, and I can't say for sure if it has any affect on other apps. I only made that mistake once. Later I realized the volume in Neutron was loud enough with my DAC connected. The internal volume may well be bypassed automatically. I guess I need to listen to some music again through this rig soon to test it out. Unfortunately for both of us that won't be tonight.
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I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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I haven't used PowerAmp since it first came out in the early 2000s with the advent of MP3s. But chances are it is more intuitive than Neutron Player. I'm a professional audio engineer by trade & tech nerd, yet still get caught up in the menus and different screens all the time. If it didn't sound so good and stream DSD files right along side PCM audio, and stream my entire music collection from my NAS, I'd kick it right to the curb.
My pleasure. Hope this helps! Cheers.
Any real solution for this yet? I think it can be bypassed with root access to the build prop or the sound mixer found in system/vendor/etc.
Any rooted user care to check?
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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It should be in one of those two files. Most likely the sound mixer file though. I don't know exactly how the entry will look but i would guess something like "headphone volume limitations = max 75"
Change 75 to 100 save and reboot.
Again this is all just guesswork I'm not a developer and haven't rooted this particular phone yet and likely won't unless we get a custom aosp.