Sup, mates! Hope y'all doing fine.
So, it's been a long hunt but I haven't found anything to satisfy my need.
What I look for the most is:
- 10 band control (or at least, 30~50 hz / 13+kHz control)
- Subwoofer-like bass boost (that really deep bass, not that forced flat thing most bass-boosters deliver)
- Some treble/surround effect, again, so the song doesn't sound flat
I should mention I'll use with Spotify, and Bluetooth speakers (Multilaser PH247), and I have a Xiaomi 5A Note Prime.
So, I have 3 favorites equalizers/bass-boosters:
- NoozXoide, great as a basis for everything, not enough when alone, though
- Neutralizer, amazing band control
- SubwooferBass, deepest bass-booster I've found, one which takes the bass as close as possible to sound subwoofer-alike
But, of course, neither of 3 work together...
Do you guys know of any EQs able to work together, that could deliver what I'm after? Or, at least, do you know of ANY EQ/bass-booster able to work with ANY of the apps I've mentioned?!
Tks guys!
(just to clarify: when I say "work together", it's because in every EQ's/bass-boost combination I tried, the apps would crash as soon as I'd open the other app...)
(btw, I'm not considering root it for now... so V4A is not an option (unless someone know how to install it in a Xiaomi w/out root))
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Hey all. I want to use a USB DAC on my prime, I know its not possible on the stock prime, but I would be willing to unlock/root to do it. I've rooted android devices before, but its been a purely "paint by numbers" affair for me. I see people talking about things in the dev threads that go way over my head. Does anyone know a good rom I can use that will give me USBHOST functionality to use a DAC, or failing that could someone somehow customize the ability to do so into the rom?
I am an audiophile, and the primes onboard DAC makes my ears want to bleed and my sr225i's want to melt. And please dont try and tell me to get beats audio, or some other software EQ mod, I'm tired of people being like "HURR DURR GET BEATS AUDIO/DSP AUDIO", while they listen to music on their cheap skullcandy headphones. Sorry, didnt mean to rant. I just really dont want to buy an ifad but it is looking like that is the only option.
Anyway... I just need a stock/bloatware removed rom (a little overclocking wouldent hurt either), with the ability to rock a USB DAC. I tried using the search function but there wasnt really any informative answers out there, which is truely disconcerting. I am really at a loss for what to do here.
So no one has any info on a usb audio enabled rom/kernal? No other audiophiles here? Dissapointing.
It might get support when we are updated to Jellybean. See here:
from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history)
4.1 June 27, 2012
Vsync timing across all drawing and animation done by the Android framework, including application rendering, touch events, screen composition and display refresh
Triple buffering in the graphics pipeline
Enhanced accessibility
Bi-directional text and other language support
User-installable keyboard maps
Expandable notifications
Automatically re-sizable app widgets
Bluetooth data transfer for Android Beam
Offline voice dictation
Improved voice search
Improved camera app
High resolution contact photos
Google Now
Multichannel audio[68]
USB Audio (for external sound DACs)
Audio chaining (also known as gapless playback)
Hi! I wanted to use Viper4Android but since I've just bought this new Moto G Plus, I didn't want to root it and mess with the guarantee. So, I'm trying to use NoozXoide, but it does not seems to work correctly with Spotify... It changes absolutely NOTHING on the sound. The odd part is that, sometimes, specially when I've just set NoozXoide and then I open Spotify, the musics start REALLY loud for like, 1 sec, and suddenly the volume drops... I'm not sure if I'm miss-setting something... Could you guys help me?
(Oh, also, since I've never been able to use NoozXoide (I've also tried with my old S4 Mini, like, 6 months ago), I don't know the best settings to listen to the most authentic (original recording-like) and subwoofered bassy music... could you also gimme some tips on this? thanks )
ALSO.
If there's ANY way to install Viper4Android without messing with my phone's guarantee (it seems that the only methods require either root or Selinux mod, right...? And doing those usually cancel the product's guarantee), or at least any good alternative to V4A, I'd be glad you guys could help me.
Thanks!
Someone?
ANY one? (((
Seriously, no one??
I am seriously considering either a Mate 10 or the to be announced Honor V10 but I do have a few questions about EMUI 8 (seeing that lineage might be unlike to be supported):
1. What Bluetooth audio Codecs are supported? aptx? Aptx HD? LDAC?
2. Can one use volume keys to skip media files in play music?
3. What about audio equalizer?
4. Is there any functionality to manage permissions in excess of what android 6+ offers (think lineage privacy guard)?
5. I understand Substratum works, correct?
Thanks a lot for any answers.
1. Mate 10 supports SBC, AAC, AptX, AptX HD, LDAC
2. No, only the play/pause button, double click for next, triple click for previous
3. Yes there is, called Huawei Histen with Equalizer, 3D audio (the both cannot be used at the same time) and Headset type settings (in ear, Ear Buds and headphones), only available with a wired headset
4. Yes, app by app basis
5. No idea
5. Yes, it does, but currently its rather pointless to use since at least I have not found a theme that fully supports Emui 8.0 and only parts of system/apps can be themed and more importantly there's currently no option to theme quick toggle/notification area.
See attached screenshot of themed Whatsapp through substratum on un-rooted mate 10.
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2. No, only the play/pause button, double click for next, triple click for previous
4. Yes, app by app basis
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Thanks for the answers, guys. Mostly sounds like I could probably live with it without rooting (which is important for corporate BYOD).
Two clarifications:
2. So I can use the mute button on the headset to skip using double click? Not perfect but also not horrible if its reliable.
4. Can I set defaults? Ideally, default would be no permissions at all (problem with the Google approach is that old apps can still steal all data before you get around manually disabling their access)
Currently trying to decide between Mate 10 (expensive, glass sandwich but good cpu and phenomenal screen to body ratio/camera), Mate 9 (cheap now and metal body with fairly decent camera but older more powerhungry CPU) and whatever Honor will come up with (probably cheap, good CPU but unknown build/3.5mm availability/unknown cam prowess). OP5t is sort of also ran by now, OP continously screwing people in various ways and refusing to use Treble sort of killed it for me. S8, while nice and very well priced now (and Grace UX is actually bearable unlike Touchwiz) is out because of the retarded curved screen.
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Thanks for the answers, guys. Mostly sounds like I could probably live with it without rooting (which is important for corporate BYOD).
Two clarifications:
2. So I can use the mute button on the headset to skip using double click? Not perfect but also not horrible if its reliable.
4. Can I set defaults? Ideally, default would be no permissions at all (problem with the Google approach is that old apps can still steal all data before you get around manually disabling their access)
Currently trying to decide between Mate 10 (expensive, glass sandwich but good cpu and phenomenal screen to body ratio/camera), Mate 9 (cheap now and metal body with fairly decent camera but older more powerhungry CPU) and whatever Honor will come up with (probably cheap, good CPU but unknown build/3.5mm availability/unknown cam prowess). OP5t is sort of also ran by now, OP continously screwing people in various ways and refusing to use Treble sort of killed it for me. S8, while nice and very well priced now (and Grace UX is actually bearable unlike Touchwiz) is out because of the retarded curved screen.
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2. Yes it's quite reliable from my usage
4. You can manually disable all permissions in the settings
Yes, Max has finally released a test build (790) to replace 704 so those who like it, log in, download and test away. Read the first page for notes and assess any bugs. I have installed it but at work so no chance to use it yet.
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...te-read-first-post-before-commenting/?page=20
Remember you MUST have a Poweramp forum account and log in to get the download.
I usually use Jet Audio HD but got a bug where it doesn't allow Tom Tom navigation to override audio focus for voice prompts so at present using Player Pro as my daily driver. Here We Go navigation works ok with Jet and Player Pro works fine with either so there's something funny between Tom Tom and Jet.
I hope the new Poweramp works ok, there are bugs and missing features so I will keep the others installed and assess Poweramp as Max addresses the bugs and rolls out more features.
Edit: Having a play with it at work, boss has left for the afternoon.
Whilst my work BT speaker (Jawbone Big Jambox) aux in is connected to my Axon 7 by wire and I played with output settings in Poweramp, set to use Audio Track, I get a marked difference in speaker volume output when switching between Headset HiFi Standard and Super in the phone audio settings. This is working better than before. I'm only on MP3 though so harder to assess as the files are not Hi Res but if I set the Big Jambox to max volume and the phone to max volume then switch from Standard to Super it's much louder and does sound better. That Jambox really cranks on this! It will overload the aux in and I have to set it back two notches so seems to be playing at too high a voltage for the Jambox input jack. Need to play with this some more. Will have a listen on my Backbeat Pro headphones tonight and also in the car on it's HiFi as that has a great dynamic range and quality with BT and wire.
Install it as a secondary player due to missing features. Max the dev will be adding stuff as things progress but I find it not quite fully functional enough to call a daily driver. I feel it's less bugs, more just not all features added and expect as he hears feedback will slowly add them in.
Here's my test setup. Dedicated page aside of my home screens with app shortcuts and widgets for easy comarison listening.
Got it yesterday. Sound-wise, it's solid. Audio flinger reports proper playback at the selected sample rate.
I had some issues with the volume whenever I got a notification even with "Audio ducking" and "short notification interuption" disabled. The volume drops, but never comes back up. I've seen on the PA forum that disabling "Float32" in the OpenSL HD settings (even if you're using Hi-Res output) fixes it. Haven't tested this yet, though. Will do it when I've got my IEMs with me.
Other than that and the obvious UI bugs, it's a good step forward, despite taking 2 years to do it.
Interestingly, the actual volume control behavior was fine on my phone. I have issues with Jet Audio though. It doesn't mesh with Tom Tom navigation app voice prompts. Got fed up with that despite the rest of it working well and great sound and have been using Player Pro for a while. It behaves reliably and now adjusted, sounds great too. Both Jet and Player Pro sound better than Poweramp for me. I have PP set as default player and is on auto start up.
I emailed Jet Audio and Tom Tom about my issue. Tom Tom have been in contact. Nothing at all from Jet. I'll probably end up uninstalling Jet.
I tested this briefly, to say it's a beta preview is an over exaggeration. It's an alpha and is way more alpha than 704. I use Poweramp near everyday and love it but I tried testing 790 but there is so much missing functionality it is just no good for a daily driver. Shame both couldn't exist on the same device, I wouldn't mind testing it then!
TBF I thought that max would have been further on with its development after the time it has taken. I know he is working on this by himself so kudos to the guy but it is so unfinished, for me, it's back to stable 704. I will try again in May with the next test build.
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Yeah, so much functionality missing, I still have it installed but it just doesn't sound as good as Jet or Player Pro for me so the point of having it at all is questionable. Max took so long to get this far with it that others have risen to the top instead.
It reminded me of Neutron a little. You have to really fiddle with it to get good sound. With Player Pro the settings are simpler but just what I need and the good sound is there. Pity the skins are ugly.
With Poweramp, I don't like the wavebar and no skip buttons. The widget wasn't fully functional etc, just not enough I liked in it for a 2 year wait. Will uninstall. See how it goes once worked on further.
Just from curiosity I had a listen with VLC. I have it for video. On wired output it's not great but did sound very nice on my backbeat pro 2 headhones over bluetooth. Not a good audio player though.
After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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I didn't get anything of what you said here, but i'll tell you what i know:
-poweramp won't output hi-res in Oreo, and it will happily tell you that it is - hence, you have to use dumpsys media.audio_flinger as always
-What do you gain by routing everyrthig through the low power DAC? (Again, ZTE said it's a DAC inside the AK4961, not SD820). I wonder if that DAC actually works with 24-bit, but at least it is specced that way.
-What do you mean by the last paragraph? The DAC will output whatever kind of sound you input it, it won't "only" play hi-res.
Btw it's AKM, AKG is a headphone manufacturer
Other thing: Disable hi-res output. Use the normal OpenSL output. That way it'll sound just like good olde Poweramp
If I go back to OpenSL it sounds markedly inferior.
I keep mixing up AKG and AKM lol.
What I meant was if I have the phone set to output on Super setting and the music app is using Hi Res it does seem to sound louder and better in general, as if the phone just puts it through the AKM DAC anyway, despite the app thinking it's using the SD820. With Poweramp 790 alpha the phone will still overload the input on my car hifi when at full volume so it seems it's using the DAC, not the SoC.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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I think it is an Oreo thing. As soon as I went from RR-N to RR-O I noticed my headphone volume dropped significantly. I'd love to know the solution
What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Nope, that's most definitely an Ainur thing. If you installed Poweramp beta, be sure to disable OpenSL ES HD output (supposedly hi-res) because that will lower the volume quite a lot.
Also install the B32+B10 bootloader if possible. That one seems to have fixes for audio.
In stock Nougat it's fine. I turned volume to max and switched between. The volume steps are different but max is fine. I found it sounded better with Float32 switched on.
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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No way, the first and only time I tried USB Player Pro it literally killed my SD Card (I don't understand how)
I've been trawling Google Play and revisiting music apps. It seems Onkyo HF Player has had a bit of a revamp. It's getting quite good now. It has widget and notification functions etc. Still no auto start though. One thing I like is it shows the output in now playing. With my backbeat pro 2 cans in wired mode and turned off the app is playing a 44.1KHz MP3 and upsampling to output at 48K. If I go into phone sound settings and turn on Dolby Atmos then go to the headphone setting and switch between standard and super there's no difference. If I turn off Atmos and switch from standard to super it gets louder and soundstage expands. Interesting....
It still has that great user configurable parametric EQ too
Playing a hi res WAV or FLAC also shows on screen. I assume the Axon 7 won't output above 48K though? I suspect this is running off the SD820.
So if it plays above 192K what does it signify? Nothing?
Or the DAC?
I know we had this issue before, and I don't want to revive old hostilities. I'd like to make this clean and objective discussion.
As you probable know by now, some time ago Google have decided to make android phones play *any* sound to *any* connected BT device, no matter if those devices are capable of playing those sounds or not, and no matter if the users are using (wearing) those devices or not. And this results, for example, in missing text messages, when your head phone is still switched on but you're not wearing it. It also will interrupt your favourite song that you're listening to on your car's radio, with a loud and nasty sound over your car's speaker. And it will also keep you from hearing medical alarm signals if your head phone is in your pocket.
As far as I know, this change in BT behaviour was introduced somewhere between Android 7 and Android 8 (LOS 14 and LOS 15), and as far as my programming knowledge goes, it should be possible to reverse these changes, to make a phone play system sounds over the phone's speaker, while music and calls are still routed to a paired and active BT devices.
So, my questions are these:
What is the big advantage of the present BT behaviour compared to the old behaviour?
How much work or effort would it take for LOS developers to re-code the BT behaviour from LOS 14 back into LOS 17 and above?
If you need help: how can normal people like me with no big development skills help you with this? Would it be a question of money?
How much (in)stability would current and future LOS versions gain through the necessary changes?
Would making these changes be illegal in any way? Would Google sue LOS developers, or would Google send their Men In Black, if LOS developers dared to undo Googles decision?
Although I do not understand the cleverness behind Google's decision, and frankly, no one I talked to about this did understand it, I'd rather make this a discussion about the possibility to undo these BT changes. It would be very obliging to get some useful answers to these questions. Thanks in advance!
Google and LineageOS devs are aware of it and don't see it as an issue:
https://gitlab.com/LineageOS/issues/android/-/issues/950
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/123758732
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/125166459
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/139884122
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want it this way. I, for one, see notifications and media audio as separate things that serve different purposes. I regularly pull out my bluetooth earbuds or turn off my bluetooth-linked hi-fi system without remembering to disconnect them at my phone. It's one thing if I go to youtube or play music and can't hear it because of this, but another thing entirely to miss a day's worth of notifications.
A lot of people have been really vocal about this -- just read some of the stories -- but these devs are so sure of themselves that they won't even offer a toggle setting for this. I'm tired of the arguing... LineageOS is free software and I'll patch and build it to suit my needs. But like you, I am not an Android developer, and I don't even know where to start to look for what controls this. I'm sure it's just a couple of lines tucked away in some file, but all I can do is ask, please, for someone out there with greater skills than me to show me what to change!
So I've been digging into the source but it's really above my head... seems like there must be a config file or set of constants somewhere. I'll keep digging and share if I find anything.
Another approach that seems possibly doable is an app that routes the notification sounds through the alarm stream. I have a calendar app that is configured to sound through the alarm stream and that sounds the way I want -- through both the device speakers and any bluetooth or wired headphones.
Sorry about the delay:
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Google and LineageOS devs are aware of it and don't see it as an issue:
https://gitlab.com/LineageOS/issues/android/-/issues/950
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/123758732
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/125166459
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/139884122
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The answers given by Google's team are living arrogance, a disgrace to themselves and an insult to the users!
Any (good) news on this subject?