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Hi everyone. As you know, Android 4.4.4 has just came out, and it's already available on the developers.google.com, and with I/O taking place in just 5 days - the excitement for the future of Android is beyond imagination.
But, this tablet came out 1.5 years ago, and seeing how many updates were already released for N10 starting from 4.2 up 'till 4.4.4 - I'm concerned about one thing: is this the last official update this device will receive? But even if we'll get 4.5/5.0, the support of this tablet will end sooner or later, as the developer community will fade away one day.
So, when the dark hour comes - what will YOU do with your Nexus 10?
I'm having the not-so-great times with mine as the perfomance is slightly disappointing, especially the lack of RAM (only 1GB) and the lack of 3G/LTE capabilities (and having to tether it to my phone isn't always reliable, due to coverage and the battery drain coming from the Hotspot being turned on most of the time, as well as having two devices slowly eating away my data cap (with both devices having autosync on and the N10 being my main connectivity device when I'm not at home, mainly at university),
So, personally, I'm looking for alternatives... and there's quite honestly not so many of them out there :/
But enough about me, what's your call on this matter?
I will keep it and install a custom ROM - long life to AOSP
Or maybe will buy Xiaomi MiPad
I think we will receive two major updates, and that will be the same for Nexus 4.
Still a great Tablet in my opinion. I'm planning on keeping it for sometime to come and will always run latest available ROM.
Ill keep it until it dies. then if there is no new N10, I'll switch to something with HDMI out, probably the Surface 3 RT when it comes out.
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I'll be keeping it, sure it'll take longer to arrive unnoficial updates, but as long as I receive it I'll be glad. It's still a pretty good device, I guess I'd change it only in 2 more years, and it'll probably be either a new Nexus or a Sony tablet.
~Lord
My target from when I bought the N10 was to keep it for three years (clock started Mar 2013). I'm hoping my next purchase would have specs such as 64bit processor, 4GB memory, screen size and resolution no less than the N10. I definitely expect a screen color/Gama control app. As media consumption is my primary usage the best color reproduction is essential. The N10 can already handle the highest bit rate video in my collection I'd expect no less but that is not a stretch. I'd also prefer a Qualcomm processor but I'm flexible on that score.
The N10 has been a pleasant surprise in how much I use it. I couldn't have predicted the amount of my media consumption has moved from my PC to the N10. It's been a real eye opener.
Of the current crop of tablets the only one to catch my eye is Samsung's Tab S 10.5, except of course for Knox's ability to detect rooting and the resulting voiding the warranty. That's why both my phone and tablet are Nexus devices. Consumers need to be empowered as we are purchasing not renting despite what some companies think. Maybe the roomered Google's Silver program can provide that option. Knowing me I'll not be able resist rooting after the hardware checks out despite the risk.
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It will be custom ROM time. I used my Viewsonic gtablet with custom Roms till I purchased my Nexus.
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The Nexus 10 have 2gb ram and not 1?
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romdroid. said:
The Nexus 10 have 2gb ram and not 1?
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1GB available to the user, 1GB eaten away by the crappy Mali HPU, in the end I'm left with ~800MB free if I'm lucky, most of the time it varies from 700 to 500, which is unbearable
Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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Well that's only preview. Maybe the actual release will come
I'm still happy with mine. An Xperia Tablet Z2 with Nexus branding would get me to upgrade. Nothing else I have seen looks more interesting than my Nexus 10.
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Wait... Op the tab has 2 GB of ram. What bottlenecks our tablets is the GPU.
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I'll keep mine until it dies or I'll give to my son if something really good comes out that I really want
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Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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When the nexus 10 is no longer listed in the Google Play store then I'll believe it will not be updated with a Nexus 2.
When a tablet is no going to be produced it gets removed from the store.
The fact that it is still there leads me to believe something is still up with it.
But I'll keep mine.
I'm not changing my N10 until Nvidia comes out with a quad core Denver CPU, a Maxwell GPU and at least 4gb of RAM, so most likely at some point in the next year.
Looks like we should be getting the next upgrade. It will extend the life for another year easy. And then count on many devs out there that will do their best to bring future releases. Remember the hp touchpad? It went from gb and now I think is running kk.
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I'll keep it for sure. A tablet is not something I'm willing to upgrade as often as my phone.
With a little tweaking this tablet performs really well (custom ROM and kernel, over clocking CPU and GPU). From where I stand, the only thing holding the N10 back somewhat is its 2GB of ram. If it had shipped with 3GB its performance and multitasking would improve tenfold. Although ram management was drastically improved with kit Kat and I can't wait to see what android L does performance wise.
Non the less, I still enjoy it very much!
I love my N10 and will keep it long after it's "retired". It does everything I want it to do. Once it's retired, it will still do everything I want it to do.
I browse, email, and read books on it - that's basically it. I don't care about the latest games or apps.
I know I'm not the typical user though.
Nexus 9 is not as smooth as Nexus 5, guess the Tegra CPU not powerful enough. Why dont Nexus 9 use Qualcomm?
If the n9 used Qualcomm, I would have purchased it already. All of the nvidia chips seem to get way too hot (proving how inefficient they are due to excessive energy loss in the form of heat)
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If the n9 used Qualcomm, I would have purchased it already. All of the nvidia chips seem to get way too hot (proving how inefficient they are due to excessive energy loss in the form of heat)
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just got a return label from google, gonna return it.
I seriously have no idea why or how you have any lag ... Sorry .. In have the nexus 5 the one plus one nexus 7 note 4 HTC m8 iPad air ... And the nexus 9 and this tablet pretty !much beats all of em with no hesitation. May be you got a defective brandmor something like that. Hope everything works out for you. Good luck
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Nexus 9 is not as smooth as Nexus 5, guess the Tegra CPU not powerful enough. Why dont Nexus 9 use Qualcomm?
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Is the most powerful chip on the market the Android and it destroys the SD805 that's in my G3 cat 6 so I don't know where you are getting that it's not powerful enough. My G3 cat 6 benchmarked at 47k on antutu this gets 56-57k.
Also Google wanted to go 64 bit. I don't think Qualcomm has anything for 64 bit yet.
I agree I was hesitant, but it's s Nexus so at least source will be accessible. And we'll probably be getting an update in the next week or so anyway. All Nexus devices get a start up update and then another one in a couple weeks. At least it feels like this.
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Also Google wanted to go 64 bit. I don't think Qualcomm has anything for 64 bit yet.
I agree I was hesitant, but it's s Nexus so at least source will be accessible. And we'll probably be getting an update in the next week or so anyway. All Nexus devices get a start up update and then another one in a couple weeks. At least it feels like this.
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This is also a valid point. The Nexus seems to be very fluid, but I always use Nova and scale animations to 0.5 because that's what I do on all my devices including my Nexus Player. I don't think the SD 810 will be that much better than the K1 Denver but only time can tell, besides this is the best possible cool they could have used so good on Google.
You did try a reboot, right? MIne way also laggy as well until it did my first reboot.
I had the same lagging issue.
Pressing home button for instance took approximately 5 seconds to react and reach the home screen. Also the home was redrawing very often.
Clicking the multisaking button could take up to 4 seconds....
I solved it by wiping my tablet completly. Factory settings. And did not restore from a previous backup but set it up as a new tablet. Just installed neccesseray apps myself one by one. And now it's working properly ! Maybe it can work for you too.
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You did try a reboot, right? MIne way also laggy as well until it did my first reboot.
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New with Nexus but when you say you rebooted did you mean that you turned it off and then back on?
Yes as simple as that
Anybody here who took a clean install and still having lag?
Lag, heat and other things. Just received my RMA. Anyone recommend another tablet?
Weird, I have no lag at all.
Lartomar i recognise you from the TF700 section and I can say without shadow of a doubt the Nexus 9 blows my TF700 out of the water completely.
Yes it does blow away the TF700 but one major problem I did not mention was the smaller form factor. I normally use the tab in landscape mode, with the Asus with the larger screen bezels and my large hands it was a good thing but, with the Nexus in landscape mode my left thumb was constantly pressing on the screen creating some unusual problems, it may have also have had some thing to do with the lag. I am thinking about the Sony Xperia Z2 or the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5. They both have a good CPU and GPU.
Try flashing one of the kernels. Nexus 9 /data is encrypted by default and hurts performance IMO. For some reason one of the FS mount options was force encryption, so you'll have to flash kernel then wipe or data will stay encrypted.
If someone wants the stock kernel but no encrypted data let me know when I get a change I'll change it in the boot image but keep the stock kernel.
Just sold my iPad 3 since it got slow as fk after updating it to ios 9. Is the nexus 9 good now? I heard it had a lot of performance issues. Stock wise and custom rom/ kernel wise how does it run? Has marshmallow/N ironed out all the lag?
I would say yes! i still love mine.
Custom ROMs and/or Kernels do help a lot.
Depends on the price and how much time you have to mess with it, in the event you get one like some of us have. I have hope for N, but the dp3 and dp4 didn't stay on the tab very long-one day for 4-both times the battery life/charging-while-running was compromised. The strange thing about this tab is that it runs beautifully for about a month to six weeks, then the lags, etc. Dirty Unicorn didn't help, but I prefer stock. I'm using elementalx. Right now, mine is a primo device. By August, it will require a wipe and reset. When it works correctly, it's a dream, IMO. I love the screen and the screen ratio. If I could find one I liked better, I would get it. I tried iPad (even with jailbreak) but couldn't stand the lack of control, and the size was too big. I tried 8" Galaxy S and Shield but didn't like the size. Shield seemed lacking in other areas.
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I've had pure Nexus on my tablet 2 months. It is still lightning fast. Using pure Nexus ROM and fire and ice kernel. It I could I would buy two more for my boys to use. So to answer your question yes it is still a good buy. Just as long as you root and ROM it. Stock is slow and gets slower everyday you use it. About a month then it becomes so slow you want to throw it.
I'd have to say no.
Things can be improved by rooting and flashing roms & kernals but at the end of the day, the 2GB ram is still, and always will be a bottleneck. :crying:
I've now switched to a much older LG v500 running CM13 and the performance is much more consistent. The N9 can be faster, but I have no issues like Chrome tabs and the launcher refreshing on the v500. :highfive:
Considering the v500 can be bought used for about half the price of a used N9, I know where I'd put my money if I had my time again. :angel:
I have both phones in hand. I rooted my new Note 7 and have my usual apps installed. The reason I absolutely have to have root is because I have to edit the Build.Prop to make the phone look like an S6 Active to ATT's enhanced push to talk server so that the PTT app will work. They are about to update their server to support the iphone 7 and plus version. With that said I have to admit the Note 7 features are superior to the iphone 7. Better camera, wireless charging, QHD beautiful amoled display etc etc etc. The problem is the phone is not even remotely close to being as smooth as the iphone 7/Plus. Half the time if I have Waze running and i want to exit the app and hit the back button it does nothing. I have to force close the app. Bluetooth can sometimes take a minute to connect. Sometimes I have to rebooth the note 7 before bluetooth will connect. I have been running into some slight laggyness here and there. My Nexus 6p is MUCH smoother and much better operating phone than this Note 7 is.
The iphone 7/plus is just fast and silky smooth. The new wide gamut display is much better than last years display. Not quite as rich and vibrant as the Note 7 display but still very good. I might keep the iphone and return the note 7. Somebody smack me and wake me up or something! I have never liked iphones and still really dont like ios but it just plain works very smooth and fast compared to the Note 7. Somebody talk me out of it!
My wife has a iPhone 7 plus. Not going to do it. The Note 7 looks way better and has bigger screen in a smaller form factor. In my opinion it's better than three icrap!
I checked the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus out while I was waiting on my replacement Note 7. You're right, they're smooth, but so is the Note 7.
I couldn't get past the fact that the 7 Plus looks like very bulky next to a Note 7. It felt terrible in hand compared to the Note 7 and I was not impressed with the larger gamut display at all.
I was looking for a change, but that wasn't it.
I would never buy an iPhone 7. I like having a headphone jack AND a stylus that stores in the phone.
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I checked the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus out while I was waiting on my replacement Note 7. You're right, they're smooth, but so is the Note 7.
I couldn't get past the fact that the 7 Plus looks like very bulky next to a Note 7. It felt terrible in hand compared to the Note 7 and I was not impressed with the larger gamut display at all.
I was looking for a change, but that wasn't it.
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I really dont find the Note 7 to be very smooth. At times it is and other times it is laggy. Maybe it is root that causes it im not really sure or maybe I need to let the phone settle in for a few days? Also the battery so far sucks. Been off charger since 5:20am and it is now 10:32 with 67% battery left. Ran waze on my way to work for 20 minutes and thats all the use the phone has had today.
iPhone 7 has a 720 p display Note 7 has a 2k display. also the Camera is still batter on the Note 7, and so is the battery life. The ONLY reason to get an Apple product is if you are sucked into their software environment. If you have Apple computers, Apple TV, etc then it makes since otherwise you will constantly be dealing with incompatibility issues and it will be a huge pain in the ass. Also NO BODY wants to have to install iTunes on their computer.
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iPhone 7 has a 720 p display Note 7 has a 2k display. also the Camera is still batter on the Note 7, and so is the battery life. The ONLY reason to get an Apple product is if you are sucked into their software environment. If you have Apple computers, Apple TV, etc then it makes since otherwise you will constantly be dealing with incompatibility issues and it will be a huge pain in the ass. Also NO BODY wants to have to install iTunes on their computer.
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I have the iphone 7 plus. The screen is sharp and the colors are richer than the 6s plus was but nowhere near what the Note 7 is. I hate everything about apple from the way they try to integrate everything to everything being locked down to the proprietary hardware. I also hate IOS. With that said here is an example of what I am talking about on the note 7 being laggy at times.
https://youtu.be/S0bBJ3tWSL8
After shooting that quick video I installed trickster mod and was looking around. I decided to change the I/O Read ahead buffer size from 256 to 512 and that seems to have smoothed everything out. I will play with it some more and see if that is a fluke or it actually helped. I hope it did because I like the Note 7 MUCH better except for the random laggyness.
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I have the iphone 7 plus. The screen is sharp and the colors are richer than the 6s plus was but nowhere near what the Note 7 is. I hate everything about apple from the way they try to integrate everything to everything being locked down to the proprietary hardware. I also hate IOS. With that said here is an example of what I am talking about on the note 7 being laggy at times.
https://youtu.be/S0bBJ3tWSL8
After shooting that quick video I installed trickster mod and was looking around. I decided to change the I/O Read ahead buffer size from 256 to 512 and that seems to have smoothed everything out. I will play with it some more and see if that is a fluke or it actually helped. I hope it did because I like the Note 7 MUCH better except for the random laggyness.
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hmm I have had no issues with my Replacement Note 7. I am wondering if due to the battery defect in the old unit somehow the CPU was not getting a constant flow of power and that was causing the random lag. The new phone DOES NOT HAVE ANY LAG. It flies and the battery is WAY better. Today is my first full charge post update, but its been off the charges for 12 hours and is at %79 battery still.
1 hr 20 min of SOT as well. WAY better than the old Note 7 was.
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I have the iphone 7 plus. The screen is sharp and the colors are richer than the 6s plus was but nowhere near what the Note 7 is. I hate everything about apple from the way they try to integrate everything to everything being locked down to the proprietary hardware. I also hate IOS. With that said here is an example of what I am talking about on the note 7 being laggy at times.
https://youtu.be/S0bBJ3tWSL8
After shooting that quick video I installed trickster mod and was looking around. I decided to change the I/O Read ahead buffer size from 256 to 512 and that seems to have smoothed everything out. I will play with it some more and see if that is a fluke or it actually helped. I hope it did because I like the Note 7 MUCH better except for the random laggyness.
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Just curious, but are you rooted?
I thought Trickster Mod requires root or else none of its settings stick.
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Just curious, but are you rooted?
I thought Trickster Mod requires root or else none of its settings stick.
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Yes I am rooted. I have to root in order to modify the build.prop to make the phone look like an s6 active to att enhanced push to talk server or else the push to talk app won't work.
I got the lag fixed though. I cranked up the IO to 2048 and turned off animations. What a huge difference!
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I have both phones in hand. I rooted my new Note 7 and have my usual apps installed. The reason I absolutely have to have root is because I have to edit the Build.Prop to make the phone look like an S6 Active to ATT's enhanced push to talk server so that the PTT app will work. They are about to update their server to support the iphone 7 and plus version. With that said I have to admit the Note 7 features are superior to the iphone 7. Better camera, wireless charging, QHD beautiful amoled display etc etc etc. The problem is the phone is not even remotely close to being as smooth as the iphone 7/Plus. Half the time if I have Waze running and i want to exit the app and hit the back button it does nothing. I have to force close the app. Bluetooth can sometimes take a minute to connect. Sometimes I have to rebooth the note 7 before bluetooth will connect. I have been running into some slight laggyness here and there. My Nexus 6p is MUCH smoother and much better operating phone than this Note 7 is.
The iphone 7/plus is just fast and silky smooth. The new wide gamut display is much better than last years display. Not quite as rich and vibrant as the Note 7 display but still very good. I might keep the iphone and return the note 7. Somebody smack me and wake me up or something! I have never liked iphones and still really dont like ios but it just plain works very smooth and fast compared to the Note 7. Somebody talk me out of it!
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Smack administered
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Smack administered
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Lmao
Gonna keep the note 7 now that I got the lag fixed! Plus you just can't do this with iPhone!
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Smack administered
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Gonna keep the note 7 now that I got the lag fixed! Plus you just can't do this with iPhone!
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+1
Bailing out before this turns into an iPhone vs. Samsung slugfest
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I got my Nexus 9 32gb lte a few months ago from a local retailer (JBHIFI) and there has been a few issues that have since popped up and i'm looking for advice on what i should do. I should start out by saying that it was a floor model with literally nothing else besides the tablet. No charger, no box, no Htc manuals or warranty cards (i know what they look like thanks to my Htc one x and Htc one M9) but at half the retail price i thought it was a good deal. The screen looked good with very little backlight bleeding ( only at the top and bottom and you can't really tell if you're not looking for it) and the housing looked to be in good shape as well but after a few months the issues started to pop up. The first issue i noticed was the tablet gets pretty hot to the point where i can't touch it, I'm not sure if it's a nougat issue but i doubt it, it's specifically hot around the top half and there's a crunching sound when i press down around the top 1/4 of the tablet which leads me to believe the copper shield is having issues. Second issue is the battery life has also taken a pretty big hit, i used to be able to get 6+ hours sot (managed 7 hours once) and now I'm barely able to get 4 hours sot with it frequently only getting about 3 1/2 hours sot before i have to charge it. Third issue is the air bubbles in the corners of the screen. I've got 3 separate bubbles along the top of my nexus 9, one in the top left and one in the top right corner and a small strip very close to the right corner air bubble. I know i have consumer laws on my side in case JBHIFI decide to do nothing to help me and i could force the issue if i wanted to. I'd like to get it fixed but these issues are making me look at other options like a new tablet (not much to choose from though). Any advice would be a great help.
Cheers Mrbtree98
My advice (having one of the finicky ones for nearly 2 years) is to return it. I don't think mine has any actual hardware issues but requires frequent wipes (at least every 8-12 weeks) to avoid lag, freezes, and reboots. The back of the tab-near camera-does get hot especially when using Chrome but the bubble issue would concern me.
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My advice (having one of the finicky ones for nearly 2 years) is to return it. I don't think mine has any actual hardware issues but requires frequent wipes (at least every 8-12 weeks) to avoid lag, freezes, and reboots. The back of the tab-near camera-does get hot especially when using Chrome but the bubble issue would concern me.
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Thanks for your reply. I went back to the store, spoke with the manager and they'll be taking it back with a full refund in the new year because of a massive hardware fault in his opinion. He asked if I could come back after the Christmas/Boxing Day madness which is fine with me. Thank you again for making up my mind on this.
I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better. I actually love the form factor, and when it's working well, the display is remarkable.
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I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better. I actually love the form factor, and when it's working well, the display is remarkable.
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I loved my Nexus 9 when i got it but these issues have put a serious dampener on my love with the nexus line, Especially when I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2012 and the 2013 (2012 died from either a mobo failure or a nand failure but the thing served me and later my dad well. The 2013 was easily my best tablet experience to date and still is). Like you said the screen is amazing (minus the bubble issue) and i love the form factor, it's just a shame that google went with the "lets price everything higher" approach which screwed over Aussies with $1000+ Pixels. (128gb Pixel XL comes in at almost $1500) I'll be keeping an eye out on CES and MWC to see what comes out on the tablet scene but i'm hoping for a Galaxy Tab S3 to get announced or for Lenovo to come out with something amazing as they're really the only players in the Australian market outside of windows 2 in 1's from Asus, Hp, etc, Ipads and the Surface lineup.
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I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better.
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Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
(Which is why I find my OnePlus 3 for instance with its 6gb of memory a godsend. It might be overkill but atleast I never ever have issues apps force closing etc due to no more memory available)
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I loved my Nexus 9 when i got it but these issues have put a serious dampener on my love with the nexus line, Especially when I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2012 and the 2013 (2012 died from either a mobo failure or a nand failure but the thing served me and later my dad well. The 2013 was easily my best tablet experience to date and still is). Like you said the screen is amazing (minus the bubble issue) and i love the form factor, it's just a shame that google went with the "lets price everything higher" approach which screwed over Aussies with $1000+ Pixels. (128gb Pixel XL comes in at almost $1500) I'll be keeping an eye out on CES and MWC to see what comes out on the tablet scene but i'm hoping for a Galaxy Tab S3 to get announced or for Lenovo to come out with something amazing as they're really the only players in the Australian market outside of windows 2 in 1's from Asus, Hp, etc, Ipads and the Surface lineup.
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My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
Pixel kosts around € 950,- for the 32gb version and around € 1175,- for the 128gb version in Europa). Which translates to around 1000~ 1250 dollars. Still not as bad as 1500 dollars but I will never ever in my life lay down that much money for just a phone.
Now, as far as recommended tablets go. I cannot recommend Samsung (We have a Tab Pro here aswell), simple verdict on that. Its slow, sluggish, comes with far too many un-installable system junk apps and Samsung can F*** right off with their locked bootloaders, anti-flash policies, KNOX and instant-warranty void if attempt to flash remotely anything.
If I were to count I'd say our Samsung Tab came with atleast 3~4 news apps which it will try to shove down your throat. (As they are baked into the default launcher so you can't even remove or disable them)
Maybe Sony/Lenovo comes out with a good tablet. The only other good aspect about N9 is that it features only Google default apps and very little to no bloat. So its rather clean.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
(Which is why I find my OnePlus 3 for instance with its 6gb of memory a godsend. It might be overkill but atleast I never ever have issues apps force closing etc due to no more memory available)
My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
Pixel kosts around € 950,- for the 32gb version and around € 1175,- for the 128gb version in Europa). Which translates to around 1000~ 1250 dollars. Still not as bad as 1500 dollars but I will never ever in my life lay down that much money for just a phone.
Now, as far as recommended tablets go. I cannot recommend Samsung (We have a Tab Pro here aswell), simple verdict on that. Its slow, sluggish, comes with far too many un-installable system junk apps and Samsung can F*** right off with their locked bootloaders, anti-flash policies, KNOX and instant-warranty void if attempt to flash remotely anything.
If I were to count I'd say our Samsung Tab came with atleast 3~4 news apps which it will try to shove down your throat. (As they are baked into the default launcher so you can't even remove or disable them)
Maybe Sony/Lenovo comes out with a good tablet. The only other good aspect about N9 is that it features only Google default apps and very little to no bloat. So its rather clean.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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The only reason i'm looking at a Galaxy Tab right now is because my mum and step dad came to visit and they both have a galaxy s7 edge and the thing bloody flies so i'm hoping that carries over to a future Tab S3 release if it ever comes out but you're right about the bloatware damn things came packed full of crap I wouldn't use but I think Samsung have actually bothered to optimize their skin more than in the past (before they upgraded, they had a galaxy S3 3g 1gig ram version and a og note and those things were turds) but i'll wait and see what happens as i'm not rooting or running custom roms anymore except on my old htc one x. (i'm alpha testing cm13 on it and it's going ok but damn are there issues we need to iron out). I don't think Sony is going to be doing another tablet even thought the z3 compact and the z4 were really good tablets from user and reviewer reports just from the amount of time between releases. It's been well over 18 months since the z4 tablet came out so i'm thinking they've pulled out of the tablet arena because of how poorly their mobile division is doing at the moment. I'm wary on lenovo because my dad had a bad experience with one of their recent 8" yoga tabs. Thing would constantly freeze, lockup then dad would have to reboot it manually so not the best experience there from a hardware point but the software is pretty bare bones and stock like but with lenovo icons, you get the standard google suite of apps and some lenovo additions, some are good and some are horrible (why they changed the look of multitasking and put in their own gallary i don't know but they ruined the look of the os and did not follow material design at all) but they're a more budget option so you get what you pay for. Asus is out as they don't sell their zenpad line here in Australia but i wouldn't have gone there anyways as their update support is absolutely woeful and i think their bloatware situation is worse the Samsung considering they let anyone buy there way in to get their apps installed. I would have looked at a pixel c but it's out of stock at google and some eBay sellers are asking $1000+ so that's out. I'm not in a hurry to get a new tablet thanks to my dad giving me the nexus 7 2013 i gave him back so I've got something to use in the meantime until something comes out at CES or MWC.
GiantAxe said:
Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
totally agree
My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
I've owned Galaxy Nexus, N4, N5, both N7's. So, the N9 killed any trust for HTC, not Nexus. I got my older son 6P as his N4 was ageing out. Great phone! Too big for my hands, though. As my N5 was slowing down, I bought a 5X (after replacing DH's i4S with one and discovered I liked it). My first android was a pandigital novel which still works. I then got a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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I even tried that as we had two in the family. I replaced older son's ipad 2 with Samsung Tab pro 12.2-both sons got one as they have 1000's of digital comics, and that tab was the best for that. Even after jailbreaking the iPad, it was far too restrictive for me. Loved the display on the iPad. I'm just really picky [emoji20]
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Well i took it back and the manager give me a full refund so that's the end of the nexus 9 experiment. Now to play the waiting game to see if any new tablets come out that are interesting.
Good luck.
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