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Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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What phone/version are you using?
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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What phone/version are you using?
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Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
Royz1911 said:
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
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Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
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you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
orl.on.dow said:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
jethro1138 said:
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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4.0.33
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4.0.33
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Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
mgl888 said:
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
astralbee said:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
Hello everyone,I'll start with some quick background. I finally updated my S4 from ME7 to MK2, and rooted it using saferoot. For a while, I haven't been able to update samsung apps, such as s health. I figured it was related to me being behind, but now it doesn't appear so.
Samsung App store just doesn't work for me. No matter if i try to update an existing app, or get any new app, when I click the free button (which I presume installs and/or updates the app), the app dims and there is a spinning circle in the middle of the screen. I see this same circle when loading new parts of the app store for the first time, so it is certainly indicating something is loading. I have even tried gettign a small game that was only 1MB and let it sit for 20 minutes, came back and it was still spinning. I updated the app by going to samsungapps.com in the browser, I tried clearing the cache or the data of the app, nothing seems to work.
S Voice/TTS - Upon firing up S voice, I was greeted with a very unpleasant robotic voice I had never heard before. Going into my language settings, I find it is using the samsung regular english us voice, not the high quality one. If I go to install voice data, and sample english (united states), it's the voice I'm used to! unfortunately it wants me to download the voice file, which is in Samsung Apps. Which doesn't work. Oddly, if I fire up google maps and have the navigation start taking me somewhere, it's using the proper voice! So that must mean I still have the voice file somewhere on the phone!
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Samsung App Store hangs when trying to install/update any app
Samsung high quality TTS voice gone from s voice, yet still in use in maps/nav
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Hello everyone,I'll start with some quick background. I finally updated my S4 from ME7 to MK2, and rooted it using saferoot. For a while, I haven't been able to update samsung apps, such as s health. I figured it was related to me being behind, but now it doesn't appear so.
Samsung App store just doesn't work for me. No matter if i try to update an existing app, or get any new app, when I click the free button (which I presume installs and/or updates the app), the app dims and there is a spinning circle in the middle of the screen. I see this same circle when loading new parts of the app store for the first time, so it is certainly indicating something is loading. I have even tried gettign a small game that was only 1MB and let it sit for 20 minutes, came back and it was still spinning. I updated the app by going to samsungapps.com in the browser, I tried clearing the cache or the data of the app, nothing seems to work.
S Voice/TTS - Upon firing up S voice, I was greeted with a very unpleasant robotic voice I had never heard before. Going into my language settings, I find it is using the samsung regular english us voice, not the high quality one. If I go to install voice data, and sample english (united states), it's the voice I'm used to! unfortunately it wants me to download the voice file, which is in Samsung Apps. Which doesn't work. Oddly, if I fire up google maps and have the navigation start taking me somewhere, it's using the proper voice! So that must mean I still have the voice file somewhere on the phone!
TL;DR
Samsung App Store hangs when trying to install/update any app
Samsung high quality TTS voice gone from s voice, yet still in use in maps/nav
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Sorry to hear about your problem. If I understand correctly, you went to the Samsung website and tried to update the app? Here is the download link for Samsung apps application. I would re-install the Samsung Apps application and try to install the voice file.
http://content.samsung.com/mobile/us/contents/aboutn/appsMobileIntro.do
Hi nolethemole, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, that did not help. i tried re installing, but it didn't work at first. I went into app manager, and uninstalled updates (can't remove it), and then I was able to install the file again. I followed your link, even though that's where I got it before, I figured maybe the download was bad. I am thinking perhaps something is left over from before the update. The update installed optical reader too, but upon firing it up it says it needs additional files, which of course, it can't download from the app store. I hate it, but I'm going to have to do a 100% wipe and reflash the full update. If that doesn't do it I guess I'll be returning it to Verizon as defective. Too many problems with this phone.
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Hi nolethemole, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, that did not help. i tried re installing, but it didn't work at first. I went into app manager, and uninstalled updates (can't remove it), and then I was able to install the file again. I followed your link, even though that's where I got it before, I figured maybe the download was bad. I am thinking perhaps something is left over from before the update. The update installed optical reader too, but upon firing it up it says it needs additional files, which of course, it can't download from the app store. I hate it, but I'm going to have to do a 100% wipe and reflash the full update. If that doesn't do it I guess I'll be returning it to Verizon as defective. Too many problems with this phone.
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Try clearing your cache and data. Then, remove your samsung account then add it again.
Well I tried clearing data and cache, before you mentioned it and after, to no avail. As far as I can tell, there's no way to remove the samsung account. I gave up and did the full flash, phone is like new now. I'm starting the high quality download, and it's actually working. Something wonky must have carried over with the no wipe option for the update. Oh well, in the future I'll know to always do a full wipe.
Hi,
I have recently bought a Swift 2 X and am starting to think it may have been a mistake. I would really like to remove the pre-installed TrueCaller dialler and replace with the standard Google Phone from Play Store.
After contacting WileyFox support they told me:
I'm afraid that you cannot delete Truecaller from your device, however you can disable it which stops it from being able to access anything on your device.
Before you do this however, I would recommend to download another dialler from the Play Store. As soon as you have done this, you can safely disable Truecaller.
To disable TrueCaller please go to Settings > App and then scroll down to TrueCaller tap on it and then tap on disable.
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When accessing the Play Store from my device the Google Phone app isn't visible (due to it being incompatible) and for confirmation of this when I view the app on the Play Store from my PC there is a message telling me "This app is incompatible with your device".
I am running Android 7.1.2 Build TOS249H-N2G48B. Can anyone tell me why the app isn't compatible or if there is a way I can get it to work please?
I installed it from apk mirror (there's a 'nonnexus' version from 5 december 2016 that works fine, other versions don't work).
Might I add that this is the one fix this phone really needs? Your purchase wasn't a mistake, the phone is quite good (value/money wise & software support wise), they just made the mistake of bundling this dialer...
EDIT - if you don't want to sideload, you can always try zero dialer or exdialer (both of which get somewhat favourable reviews online)
Great! Thanks very much for your advice - I'll give those options a try.
Set as default dialer
I figured it how to make the Google dialer work properly. You've got to go into the apps section of settings then click on the cog at the top of the screen.
Near the bottom of the screen you'll see phone app, click on that and choose Phone. Hey presto, it works!
dryhte said:
if you don't want to sideload, you can always try zero dialer or exdialer (both of which get somewhat favourable reviews online)
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This is on one of my WileyFox Swift 1, the other is still on 6.0.1
Thank you very much for zero dialer (Play Store), I have been struggling with the default basic Truecaller ever since I downgraded (YES, not a typo) from 6.0.1 to 7.x.x
The lack of call blocking drove me to trying to solve the problem again.
Dave
justicenext said:
This is on one of my WileyFox Swift 1, the other is still on 6.0.1
Thank you very much for zero dialer (Play Store), I have been struggling with the default basic Truecaller ever since I downgraded (YES, not a typo) from 6.0.1 to 7.x.x
The lack of call blocking drove me to trying to solve the problem again.
Dave
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Thanks for confirming. Would you care to do a very short review of the Zero dialer? maybe some screenshots, what works well, ...?
Even if you don't, it's good to know that there is another viable option than the nonnexus which I've been using.
Well I am about to smash my phone to bits lol so I'm hoping for a bit of help. Had my le max 2 for over a year and its been ok, it automatically updated not long ago and since then nothing GOOGLE works, playstore wont load, always get the Play services stopped working popping up every 3 mins or so. I have deleted them and downloaded the apk's a million times and it does the same thing over and over. Also some other apps just do not work now.
On top of that I have the other 2 home screens that is all adverts and in another language I'm guessing Chinese, My calendar is also messed up with all extra Chinese writing in it and other bits, I also get advert bars at the bottom when I open certain things.
I now can not even install facebook or anything else as the google playstore does not work I have tried other app stores you can download that have all the apps on and they don't really work either and a lot say they need google play services to work so I get that popping up.
I have no idea about rooting phones, installing customs roms or anything although I have checked videos and I'm still no further what to install or do.
I just want google play to work again so I can have things as I did before
any ideas at all please? if I cant sort it I think I'm just going to go back to samsung
just installed all the google stuff using google installer V2 all seemed to go ok but still says google services stopped , managed to install facebook another way but it says the facebook app is not compatable with my device so the phone is stopping facebook from working :/
what rom you have ?
some conflict happened after the update, you need to reset factory.
matklola82 said:
just installed all the google stuff using google installer V2 all seemed to go ok but still says google services stopped , managed to install facebook another way but it says the facebook app is not compatable with my device so the phone is stopping facebook from working :/
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Are you referring to the stock rom 028S? I don't think it is fully compatible with Google Services. After many re-installations, I gave up on it and installed Resurrection Remix 5.8.5 Nougat and never looked back. It frees up tons of memory too.
Basically, I have a custom ROM installed (Ressurection Remix) without GAPPS (intentionally) on my Moto G5 Plus.
Almost every app works fine, but some don't. These are for the most part apps that I backed up and installed using Titanium Backup.
The specific app I want to try to get working is DB Navigator. It works almost completely fine, I can search for new routes and change settings etc. However, I can't see tickets that I have booked. I don't need to be able to book tickets through the app, but I would like to be able to see the tickets I have already bought.
My question is, is there any way to get this app to work without installing GAPPS?
(I apologize if this question has been answered already. I googled it, duckduckgo-ed it, looked through the forums and still found nothing )