I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I think its a dac, I just used it in my car and the sound is way stronger and different, I'm sticking to that instead of the BT Audio in the Huawei.
I doubt that the dongle holds the DAC but the SOC does. Or at least it's on the motherboard.
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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It does make my Xiaomi earphones sounds better. I'm on Mate 10 though.
mameenbh said:
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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Yeah, it's great but I have to go to parameters - huawei histen each time I put my headset.
Option is always activated but seems work only I go to parameters first
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I doubt that the included dongle holds a DAC/Amp. Instead, I've been using my DragonFly Black (1.5) with a usb-c to usb-a otg cable, which delivers a much cleaner/wider/louder sound.
Regarding Bluetooth codec, AptX HD works great for me (using Aiaiai TMA-2 + H05), maybe your car BT receiver is not compatible?...
I tried both the dongle and the included USB Type-C headphone on my old Mate 9 Pro, and interestingly, the USB Type-C headphone worked perfectly while the dongle was not working at all.
Since Mate 9 Pro has a built-in 3.5mm AUX port, I don't think it supports USB analog audio pass thru. Therefore, I think the included headphone indeed has a DAC, but the dongle doesn't . If this is true, then Mate 10 Pro indeed has a DAC built in.
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Is it possible to get the Hi-Fi DAC working with a Bluetooth headset?
I think this would do the trick for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/themes-apps/dac-fix-hi-fi-dac-everywhere-t3274457
But really ??? on Bluetooth??? I think you would just be using up more batter for no better sound due to what Bluetooth does.
It's impossible to have the DAC affect bluetooth sound. The data is sent to the bluetooth device.... You would need to plug in a aux cable and plug it in to a bluetooth adapter and well just don't do because you'll need to carry a powersource for that and the adapter and just no lol. DAC - digital to analog converter, so yeah it's still digital when sent through the phones bluetooth.
For the best bluetooth audio get devices that support aptx and if you can find devices that are either bluetooth 4.1 or 4.0.
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It's impossible to have the DAC affect bluetooth sound. The data is sent to the bluetooth device.... You would need to plug in a aux cable and plug it in to a bluetooth adapter and well just don't do because you'll need to carry a powersource for that and the adapter and just no lol. DAC - digital to analog converter, so yeah it's still digital when sent through the phones bluetooth.
For the best bluetooth audio get devices that support aptx and if you can find devices that are either bluetooth 4.1 or 4.0.
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Even if you plug an Bluetooth adapter in the aux output you will not use the v10 dac for your headphones. It would be: phone DAC - Bluetooth ADC - Headphone DAC.
So probably it sound worse after the extra converting and it defenetly different as if you plug it directly in the phone (dac color the sound)
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Even if you plug an Bluetooth adapter in the aux output you will not use the v10 dac for your headphones. It would be: phone DAC - Bluetooth ADC - Headphone DAC.
So probably it sound worse after the extra converting and it defenetly different as if you plug it directly in the phone (dac color the sound)
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Ya, your definitely right. Converting to digital and analog back and forth 3 times is like taking a photo and putting it on a copy machine and then making a copy of the copy and another copy of the copy. It's not going to look good at all.
Yes the sound would get worse. I wasn't thinking when I posted this I am a audio engineer so I know a little something about audio lol! Having a long week and I wasn't thinking when I posted this just moved into a new house. I'm used to using viper4android on my Nexus 6 so when I couldn't do that on this phone I got frustrated. But anyhow I'll have to wait for root thanks anyways members of xda! Appreciate the responses!
Just got a mate 10 Pro to compare to my u11+ and found that every dongle used with the Mate 10 Pro sounds so quiet. The U11+ is so much louder but even the OP3T and S8 seem louder. Has anyone else found this to be the case? I've used the stock dongle, Google's and Razerphone and they are LOUD on S8 and U11+ but extremely quiet on Mate 10 Pro
Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Same here.
Sound could be better honestly.
With dongle or with Bluetooth headset, sound is just ok...
Audio capabilities of this phone are a big disappointment in my opinion. If someone can help to make things better please let us know.
Same issue. Mate and 10 lite
No issue whatsoever. I bought the fabulous sony-wh-1000xm2 and live is seriously good. Streaming high res flacs over 990 kbs LDAC
With Mate 10, even with cheap Philips in-ear headset (Philips-SHE3595BK) sound is very clear and loud.
I can't even imagine with a good quality headset.
Using some mdr-1a and the USB c headphones from htc bolt/10 Evo. Both sound very very good, clear and Loud.
I have rooted my phone and can try to find out if there is a way to boost audio via USB c headphones / the adapter
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Sound is good but imo, not enough high with headsets
Yes, the max output level is quite low for the dongle. Over BT it's the same as other sources in output level since that's not set by the phone.
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
john.6 said:
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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Asia model here. Again: it's only playback through the dongle, not Bluetooth.
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Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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I think so.
It was always like that with all devices I had before.
Need root to increase level sadly
@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
Luinwethion said:
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
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I did the audio tweak now, and it is much louder with original dongle and audio is good too
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On my Mate 10 non pro bt audio is not as loud as my mate 9 but wired is good.
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@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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oh crazy, then I gonna order it, if it is available in germany
Hi, I am an owner of a Samsung galaxy s10. I've heard so much things about viper4android and I'm big on music and how my sound system sounds in my car. I would love to have the app but have no interest to root my device if that's even possible. Is there any way at all that someone might know how I can get it without root? I would really love to have this app. Thank you
No way you can get viper4android without rooting.
Just root, It;s simple and so worth it for V4A!
And that's working without a selinux kernel?
I used to be a big fan of V4A back then in my rooting days with the Galaxy Note 4. It did sounded better than the stock setup, but it's 2019 and rooting a new phone (especially a Samsung) does not sound like a good idea to me.
Instead, I bought Creative Labs Super X-Fi amp, USB Audio Player Pro and paired them with my Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro. It's an expensive setup, but now I hear music from my S10 like never before with a mobile device. The amp has the "Holographic sound" technology which is great, but even if you use it merely as an amp, it's great. IMO, this setup is much better that the quad DAC my previous LG G6 had.
Just pay attention, right now the USB Audio Player Pro is the only player compatible with the S10 paired with the X-Fi amp. S10s have a known issue with their USB port that does not allow the X-Fi to work with any other music player for the moment.
Melissakis said:
I used to be a big fan of V4A back then in my rooting days with the Galaxy Note 4. It did sounded better than the stock setup, but it's 2019 and rooting a new phone (especially a Samsung) does not sound like a good idea to me.
Instead, I bought Creative Labs Super X-Fi amp, USB Audio Player Pro and paired them with my Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro. It's an expensive setup, but now I hear music from my S10 like never before with a mobile device. The amp has the "Holographic sound" technology which is great, but even if you use it merely as an amp, it's great. IMO, this setup is much better that the quad DAC my previous LG G6 had.
Just pay attention, right now the USB Audio Player Pro is the only player compatible with the S10 paired with the X-Fi amp. S10s have a known issue with their USB port that does not allow the X-Fi to work with any other music player for the moment.
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Hi so plz excuse the fact that I'm still tryin to get my head round this S10 ... So if I buy the usb audio player how does it work ? As other than my headphones I use it with an aux jack into my separated from fone cheers m8
salsa1976 said:
Hi so plz excuse the fact that I'm still tryin to get my head round this S10 ... So if I buy the usb audio player how does it work ? As other than my headphones I use it with an aux jack into my separated from fone cheers m8
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Hi, I did not understand correctly. You buy the USB Audio Player Pro and you use it just like any other music app, it's the same.
What's different about this app is that it has its own android driver, that bypasses Android's drivers, and it gives a better output. This is the only app that allows the USB Amplifier I bought (the Creative Super X-Fi amp) to work properly until now.
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Hi, I did not understand correctly. You buy the USB Audio Player Pro and you use it just like any other music app, it's the same.
What's different about this app is that it has its own android driver, that bypasses Android's drivers, and it gives a better output. This is the only app that allows the USB Amplifier I bought (the Creative Super X-Fi amp) to work properly until now.
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Thank you for explaining for me nice 1 m8
Does anyone know if you can use type C earphones with the Note 9S? Has anyone used any?
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Yes, I used Hidizs Sonata USB DAC and works OK ?
Yes, i used Huawei earphones type c
Cool thanks, how is the quality, loudness comparedd to the 3.5mm?
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The sound is fantastic. I find that it sounds better than the 3.5mm connector. But, you must consider that when you take the audio out of the type C port, it is the DAC of the headset that works. In addition, the audio improvements provided by the MIUI application are added when detecting a device connected by port c. Totally recommended to use USB sound.
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Yes, I used Hidizs Sonata USB DAC and works OK [emoji106]
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Awesome, these look really good, gonna have to check out.
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vitocoscout said:
The sound is fantastic. I find that it sounds better than the 3.5mm connector. But, you must consider that when you take the audio out of the type C port, it is the DAC of the headset that works. In addition, the audio improvements provided by the MIUI application are added when detecting a device connected by port c. Totally recommended to use USB sound.
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Thanks for your reply. I've been in audio limbo at the moment considering bluetooth headphones or new wired headphones and thought id look at the USB C options after getting the 9S.
Do the miui sound enhancer and equalizer option still work via USB? I use them with a set of wired sennheisers and find the quality decent after some tweaking, im no audiophile, but have found the audio output quality of xiaomi's to be quite good.
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I agree with USB as the best choice to listen to music currently with Redmi Note 9S. I'm facing a bug with my Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth headphones -and all Bluetooth audio devices connected to my phone- that makes them sound very very low. Very annoying bug, I'm even thinking to sell my phone if Xiaomi doesn't fix it.
xsam123 said:
I agree with USB as the best choice to listen to music currently with Redmi Note 9S. I'm facing a bug with my Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth headphones -and all Bluetooth audio devices connected to my phone- that makes them sound very very low. Very annoying bug, I'm even thinking to sell my phone if Xiaomi doesn't fix it.
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Hi there,
I also own these brilliant headphones, And I have the 9S global. I don't have any problem whatsoever with BT volume, in fact the BT output is very very loud.
Still yet to try USB audio though, it's great to hear that this works well. As inconvenient as it may be maybe a factory reset will solve your problem. Hope you sort it ?
galaxy6220 said:
Hi there,
I also own these brilliant headphones, And I have the 9S global. I don't have any problem whatsoever with BT volume, in fact the BT output is very very loud.
Still yet to try USB audio though, it's great to hear that this works well. As inconvenient as it may be maybe a factory reset will solve your problem. Hope you sort it
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Thanks for your information, maybe a factory reset will fix the problem! I'll try!
Hi all,
I bought the Hidizs Sonata HD USB-C to Jack 3.5mm headphone adapter with integrated DAC.
When I connect the dongle to my Galaxy S20 (Exynos CPU) USB-C port, the device is not detected and audio output goes to phone speakers.
The strange thing is that if I connect in this mode: SONATA HD USB-C PORT to USB-C to USB-A adapter to USB-A to USB-C OTG adapter, the device is recognized by phone and works good.
It seems that the phone detects the device only if OTG (and then usb host mode) forced by hardware adapter (SAMSUNG OTG ADAPTER).
Do you think it is a problem with the S20?
Thank you!
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
serafko said:
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
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thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
danielerispoli said:
thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
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Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
*edited, my bad
blackhawk said:
Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
*edited, my bad
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I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
blackhawk said:
Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
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The UHQ upscaler is disabled (greyed out) with both the connected and unconnected device.
In the Stand by apps I have some apps greyed out with different states (RARE, FREQUENT ,EXEMPTED, etc).
Do you think this could be the problem?
In this case how can I solve?
I have currently enabled "Optimize" in power management.
Thank you so much for your help!
EDIT: I just disabled the "Risparmio energia applicazione" (I think Energy saving app in english) and now all the apps in the Developer options -> stand by apps are in the "ACTIVE" state....same issue! Device not detected and UHQ upscaler greyed out.
EDIT2: Also tried to enable the developer option "Disable automatic audio routing": same issue!
I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
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I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
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I contacted technical support but they replied after 4 days with a classic standard email.
Also I tried to flash all 3 firmware (now the device is with "D - Pure Music" firmware, the same as the other user.
Finally I did all the tests both with the app they recommend (HybyMusic) and with USB Audio Player PRO, setting the BitPerfect option and exclusive access to the USB port. This way the app bypasses the android usb stack and uses an optimized driver.
I also tried to clear the data and cache of the system application "Usb settings", but despite all these attempts I could not solve it in any way.
At this point, considering that the manufacturer's assistance is practically non-existent, I believe that I will return the product directly through Amazon.
I am very sorry because the DAC quality of this device is amazing and I do not know if I should order another one as I honestly have not yet understood if it is a defective product or compatibility problem.
Anyway thanks again for the help!
As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
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As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
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I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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danielerispoli said:
I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
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You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
blackhawk said:
You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
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The Fiio BTR5 supports all Bt codecs, LDAC included. In Bt mode supports up to 96Khz 24bit but in USB mode supports up to 384khz with DSD256 native. The dongle has 2x ES9218P DAC by Sabre.
The Samsung dongle.
The samsung dongle actually has very high quality, in fact I was surprised, but it has a hard time driving my 150Ohm Shure headphones. No problem with my Bose QC20 instead.
serafko said:
I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
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Sorry, my mistake. The firmware I loaded is "SONATA _HD-D_Pure".
Hi Guys.
Just tried the Sonata 2 on S10+ and I'll let a fried try on S20 soon.
This product looks like useless and malfunctioning.
Talking about S10, it integrates a great DAC, it's just heavily limited by software, I don't want to know why...
I rooted it and, modding the mixer_gains.xml, installing Viper4Android and using dynamic driver based headphones it's absolutely unbelievable.
Anyway, Google just improved SafetyNet, they'll soon close the door to any root solution, Magisk included, in a short time we'll have the most of apps refusing to run on rooted phones.
That's why I'm searching for a decent type-c DAC cable.
Coming to the Sonata 2, its volume is just acceptable, but bass frequencies are too weak.
Moreover, its connector is unstable, there's frequent disconnections
Also the game of the 3 firmwares is absurd.
I flashed the sound priority firmware, honestly this firmware increases sound quality a little bit, but it shockingly fails to manage the microphone: on outgoing and incoming calls microphone doesn't work at all.
Finally, reverting to call priority firmware, the microphone still doesn't work.
In my opinion this product looks like the usual chinese bull****, do you confirm?
I'm actually looking to something better, but it prefer it in the "cable" form, using it for work and sport a big device wouldn't be so comfortable...
Regards
Ok the provided cable is not bidirectional the one with the logo should go into the phone.