Is the Oreo roms draining battery faster than usual on standby? I've tested a couple without custom kernels. Please comment if you've found similar results.
Rifat Rezwan said:
Is the Oreo roms draining battery faster than usual on standby? I've tested a couple without custom kernels. Please comment if you've found similar results.
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Dont expect battery performance like miui on customs roms. Custom roms are just made for pleasure. If Ure rooted try greenify to hibernate those power hungry apps and keep your location off when not needed. Try velvet rom. It will tweak battery life a little.
Rifat Rezwan said:
Is the Oreo roms draining battery faster than usual on standby? I've tested a couple without custom kernels. Please comment if you've found similar results.
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what rom and type of apps you use? i am a slight heavy user, and am able to get a minimum of 1.5 day charge, that too with xiaomi doze enabled. Also i dont really support custom kernel to be used right now, because the actual devlopment of oreo 8.1 isnt over, so kernel management can be finnicky. but then try looking in which app consumes most power.
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sorry, I don't have enough posts to reply to the already started thread over in the dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995819
basically I wanted to know, is there any way to flash to this latest "PG05IMG_Mecha" ROM from that Chinese site but NOT completely wipe the phone & lose all settings, apps etc. I spent the better part of the entire weekend setting up and tweaking all my settings just right. would hate to start from scratch but I do want the battery life enhancements of the latest FW.
cheers guys
No, currently there is no way just to flash that stock rom over top. What battery life improvements are in the newer rom?
Well I don't know the specifics but I believe they optimized the power saving algos a bit, I know HTC has been tweaking them to try to squeeze a little more life out of that tiny battery.
Does it also have a custom kernel? I know the largest battery savings I've seen from my experience w/ custom roms came from a custom kernel that was geared to save battery life.
I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
javawolfpack said:
Does it also have a custom kernel? I know the largest battery savings I've seen from my experience w/ custom roms came from a custom kernel that was geared to save battery life.
I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
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No, the custom kernels to the extent of the Dinc are not available yet.
javawolfpack said:
I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12220034&postcount=31&highlight=significant+increase
Russ36363 said:
No, the custom kernels to the extent of the Dinc are not available yet.
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Yeah I know they've barely gotten roms w/ no bloatware out so far, which is a miracle in the turn around time from the device hitting the market. But sure they'll be there soon. So just interested in how this ROM manages to accomplish a battery savings.
Upon looking at the message in the thread about battery savings. If you remove bloatware and apps that constantly decide they need to be running you'll see a noticeable increase in battery life with that. You could also constantly fight to kill them and likely also see an increase in battery life. But the increase won't be as significant as when the custom kernels come about.
So if you aren't readily familiar with the manual process for flashing roms or say get a rom from a more reliable source (developer)... you might want to wait for roms to start showing up on ROM manager that'll automate the process for you and hopefully by then the custom kernels and other such options will be available. But I don't really trust a link for a image for my phone that sends me to a foreign website. You might want to check out adrynalyne's basic debloated ROM??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
Hi There
I'm Running Mean Rom And My Battery Drain Fast Is there any fix for this
lilxdavidx said:
Hi There
I'm Running Mean Rom And My Battery Drain Fast Is there any fix for this
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mean rom has the best battery life out of all the roms out.. its not the rom.. use the betterbatterystats something has to be keeping your phone awake
lilxdavidx said:
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I'm Running Mean Rom And My Battery Drain Fast Is there any fix for this
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Different roms and kernels yield different results for different people. Someone may get amazing battery life on one ROM, but you may not. That's why it's recommended to try a bunch out and see how your phone behaves after a couple of days of use. Viper4g + Enoch kernel is the winning combo for me in terms of battery life. Someone else may have different results though.
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You gotta give us more info man.
Basic power saving tips still apply, I would suggest starting with them
based on the info supplied flash back to complete stock and test that.
if you have good battery life it was the rom you flashed. If not its a device issue.
I have tried pretty much all AOSP ROMs and I am finding that all of them have huge number of wakelocks. At night my phone is awake for about 1.5 to 2 hours out of 7-8 hours and drains 7-10% battery over this time. Even with clean install and only minimum apps installed.
In battery useage apps they show up as Kernel (Android OS) and Linage OS System in battery usage apps. Any idea how to find and resolve this?
same for me!
This only happens on AOSP roms? Not on Lineage OS?
h0ttentot said:
This only happens on AOSP roms? Not on Lineage OS?
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I included Lineage OS and everything else in AOSP - non MIUI ROMs.
syl0n said:
I included Lineage OS and everything else in AOSP - non MIUI ROMs.
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So this doesn't happen in stock rom? I'm getting my Redmi 5 Plus today and i plan to flash a custom rom because i don't like bloatware and gapps, but if this is a big issue i don't know if i should for now.
h0ttentot said:
So this doesn't happen in stock rom? I'm getting my Redmi 5 Plus today and i plan to flash a custom rom because i don't like bloatware and gapps, but if this is a big issue i don't know if i should for now.
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I don't think so. Stand by on Stock ROM was much better for me. Lost 0% overnight.
same happens to me.
Same for me.
same here. 1% lost every hour overnight, just mobile signal, no wifi, no bluetooth no gps
Try using AppOps to deny the following permissions for the apps you have installed - keep awake, auto start, run in background. Exclude messaging, clock and dialer apps from this procedure.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
These guides can help, but are most likely not longer necessary past Android 7.
I am doing a test by clean flashing, not installing any apps and not even installing Gapps to see if the same drain happens. Will report back.
Cleaned flashed, NO GAPPS, NO other apps, left phone for 8 hours, lost 8%. "Significant motion detector" was awake for 2.5 hours. Same wakelock on all ROMs, seems like an issue with this phone. I don't know if it happens on MIUI but I guess no?
It might be because all the ROMs are based on the initial work of mdeejay and tingyichen, as I understand it. All the AOSP ROMs are basically the same, only varying in tiny amounts of superficial stuff that is added to them.
Did you try the unofficial OmniROM build? It's the only non-Lineage ROM that's developed from scratch (by ex-CM devs), and to me it does feel different than all the rest, in a positive way.
use better battery stats for understanding the culprit. i am on 8.1 AEX and overnight drain is 0.5%. 0n miui it was 1%.
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What phone do you have ? 3/32 or 4/64? And what baseband firmware? I ask because I had same 1% per hour drain on aex too. I wonder if having encryption on makes a difference?
I am tired of trying new roms and kernels but all behave the ssme. 35% time awake
Can you try to post a Better Battery Stats log? Is your WiFi turned on during idle?
sigma392 said:
Can you try to post a Better Battery Stats log? Is your WiFi turned on during idle?
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No, everything turned off, only mobile signal. Also tried in airplane mode.
Fran Montero said:
No, everything turned off, only mobile signal. Also tried in airplane mode.
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Please post a Log from Better Battery Stats. The only thing I can think of is that weak signal is draining your device's battery.
sigma392 said:
Please post a Log from Better Battery Stats. The only thing I can think of is that weak signal is draining your device's battery.
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Not possible if its happening even in Airplane mode.
Tried all ROMs and kernels. Miui and custom
ahmedegypt said:
Tried all ROMs and kernels. Miui and custom
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Ahmed, you have to realize that everyone uses their phone differently. Different screen brightness, different apps, different cellular connectivity strength, GPS apps, games, ambient temperature...
Many many things have an effect on SOT and battery.
You simply have to try each rom and each kernel and see what works best for you.
ahmedegypt said:
Tried all ROMs and kernels. Miui and custom
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/fix-to-decrease-battery-drain-poco-t3930042
Try these steps ... Good luck ?
I've been getting nearly 8-9 hours sot with NOS and with this magisk module called FDE.AI. Been working out really well for me. But my screen usage is mainly YouTube and web browsing so ur sot might vary.
Hi there!
I love fresh stuff so updates of ROM, kernel and firmware are must have for me. For the better and for the worse. It happened for the worse. I've been waiting a year for stable pie roms to appear that have zero screen wake delay and Syberia was the only room with EAS support. I thought why not. So flashed Syberia Latest in may of 2019 and latest stable, global firmware from xiaomifirmwareupdater. I was very satisfied with Syberia's experience and even more it's kernel performance that I didn't have to flash a custom kernel. I've been using the rom till yesterday for about 3 months and always flashed newer updates of Syberia and opengapps pico. My mido device started to drain battery much faster. Even that much that for example when I wake up at 6:30 am and arrive at work for 8:00 10-20% battery juice is already drained even though all I did was read comics in a simple reader. Tried to solve the issue but after all my mido device is 3 years old. got the conclusion that my battery sadly went broke. Still it was extremely annoying for me that I can't read comics for more than 7 hours during my shift (I'm a seasonal pool warden so I do nothing from 8:00 to 20:00) because my phone's battery dies no matter how I try no to let it. I've had enough so I changed rom and even firmware. Flashed latest China stable firmware which arrived in july and latest Pixel Experience. See wonder now my battery drains way slower and the phone shows me that it can run for 1 day and a bit more from 100% to 0%. I'm so happy and relieved that there isn't anything wrong with my battery.
I want to find out what caused the extreme drain. I really do. Could you guys please help me find the cause? Was it the previous firmware? Syberia updates? The stock kernel? The opengapps packages?
I have a few clues but I hope there are others with more knowledge on battery factors. Thanks a lot in advance.
Maybe kernel and apps usage. You should check the in battery statistics it may mobile network standby.
iaintken said:
Maybe kernel and apps usage. You should check the in battery statistics it may mobile network standby.
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I used better battery stats all the time and it showed nothing unusual. Not on Syberia, not on PE. Furthermore I used Migrate app so I have every single app on PE that I had on Syberia with exact same settings. Perhaps the high battery drain was caused by one of Syberia's system app? If yes shouldn't I've been able to see it in BBS? If it was caused by an user installed app shouldn't the problem migrate to PE as well with the apps? I still think firmware caused the battery drain but I can't belive something certainly based on my gut.
iaintken said:
Maybe kernel and apps usage. You should check the in battery statistics it may mobile network standby.
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Perhaps yes. Perhaps no. I use BBS all the time and it never showed me unusual activity on Syberia. Furthermore I used migrate app so I have every single app on PE that I used on Syberia with the exact same settings but there is no bettery drain present. If user installed apps were the cause of battery drain shouldn't the drain migrated with them as well?
I still think it could have been a firmware issue.
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Perhaps yes. Perhaps no. I use BBS all the time and it never showed me unusual activity on Syberia. Furthermore I used migrate app so I have every single app on PE that I used on Syberia with the exact same settings but there is no bettery drain present. If user installed apps were the cause of battery drain shouldn't the drain migrated with them as well?
I still think it could have been a firmware issue.
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Try rr oreo once excellent battery life
iaintken said:
Try rr oreo once excellent battery life
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I'd like to. I really do but I spent years on Oreo. Loved it but it was so hard for me to get used to Pie and I've waited like for a year for a working Pie rom that didn't had any issues not even screen wake delay. Now that I've migrated to Pie I'm not planning to go back...
greenys' said:
Now that I've migrated to Pie I'm not planning to go back...
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Did you ever try to use a bugreport + Battery Historian (Google's own tool) to check what is using your battery? I put together a small article about it on Telegra.ph the other day. Which MIUI ROM's firmware are you using actually at the moment? Some ppl. says that in less LTE covered areas the firmware derived from global stable ROM V9.6.3.0 does a really good job. Did you try to up- or downgrade the firmware? Did you ever try to disable LTE and use 2G/3G preferred or 2G/3G auto mode?
crok.bic said:
Did you ever try to use a bugreport + Battery Historian (Google's own tool) to check what is using your battery? I put together a small article about it on Telegra.ph the other day. Which MIUI ROM's firmware are you using actually at the moment? Some ppl. says that in less LTE covered areas the firmware derived from global stable ROM V9.6.3.0 does a really good job. Did you try to up- or downgrade the firmware? Did you ever try to disable LTE and use 2G/3G preferred or 2G/3G auto mode?
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No. I never hear about those tools. All I saw over the web was better battery stats and it was widely recommended. So I used that. I was using 2019/05/16 china firmware while the battery drain was noticeable. Now I'm on 2019/07/19 china firmware and the battery drain is gone. I dunno. Since I didn't find anything about cellular network signals causing the battery drain I didn't experiment with it at all. It's constantly turned on. Like for a year now. I'll try 9.6.3.0 stable firmware and report back how battery drain is.
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No. I never hear about those tools. All I saw over the web was better battery stats and it was widely recommended. So I used that. I was using 2019/05/16 china firmware while the battery drain was noticeable. Now I'm on 2019/07/19 china firmware and the battery drain is gone. I dunno. Since I didn't find anything about cellular network signals causing the battery drain I didn't experiment with it at all. It's constantly turned on. Like for a year now. I'll try 9.6.3.0 stable firmware and report back how battery drain is.
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I would never use the chinese firmwares on a global phone, especially when your are not in China.. I had issues in the past with some chinese firmware versions but never had any with the global ones (here in Hungary we use different carrier technologies than companies in PRC and as far as I know global is optimised differently for a different market, not for China).
crok.bic said:
I would never use the chinese firmwares on a global phone, especially when your are not in China.. I had issues in the past with some chinese firmware versions but never had any with the global ones (here in Hungary we use different carrier technologies than companies in PRC and as far as I know global is optimised differently for a different market, not for China).
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I see. Good to know. I've been using chinese firmware for a good while now without issues. But I flashed the adviced 9.6.3.0 global stable now. I'll take your advice and stay away from China firmware. It'd only make sense.