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I am having trouble with my StarTrek. It is pretty much unused, bought it straight when it came out but only used it for 1-2 months because I then got a phone from work. I reciently tried to start using it again just because I was a bit bored. But the phone refused to start, I originally thought it was the battery so I ordered a new one and got it. Phone started up straight away when I put it in as it came precharged at 40%. But the phone refuses to charge when I plug the USB cable in. I get no LED light or indicator in WM5 that it is charging.
So I checked the USB cable with a multi meter and there is defiently 5v being supplied. I opened up the phone and measured the board when the charged was plugged in, I found both 5v points and ~3.7-4v points on the board. The positive point of the 4 connectors which connects to the battery outputs 1v when the battery is plugged in (~0.3v when no battery is plugged in) so it would appear that the battery is charging right? Or should I be seeing 3.7v here?
charging issue
these phones are notorious for the micro usb connector to come loose from the main board, once it does there is nothing you can do with it.
My advice is if you plan on keeping the phone by a dual charger off of eBay for about 20 bucks, it has a built in battery charger, then you can simply swap out your batteries as you should now have 2 good batteries cause my guess is that your original battery is still good.
other possibility is to buy a trashed 3125 (bad lcd, etc) off of eBay and hope that you get one with a good charging port and board, then swap out the board, fairly easy swap.
I ended up buying one of the £70 new pink qtek 8500 from expansys and then I took off the black cover from my old one and swapped with the pink one. I now have a phone to play with wm6.1
Just posted this on another forum. Just bought one and used coupon code THANKYOU for 10% off.
http://www.store.motorola.com/Batte...olor_map,price,size_name&searchRank=salesrank
Went on ebay and got 3 batteries and a wall charger for 12 bucks. Had the same for my Epic, they are from Hong Kong, and last about half as long as stock but for money spent, well worth it IMO.
Normally i stick to seidio for aftermarket batteries, but that offer is too good to ignore! thanks for the tip!
They take about 2 weeks to get to you, ground mail from China but used them for a year on my Epic. Great little backups, keep one in the car, one in the office, whereever.
I am still not sure which battery will fit the Photon. Let us know how it works out.
This one claims to be for the Photon and only the Photon, it only recently came out so it should work. It is not one of those that advertises for Atrix/Droid X2/Photon, which as we know the Photon does not share a battery with.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3X-1500...119425?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fc81f7c1
Thanks for that ebay link! Wow 3 batteries and the external charger! I just purchased these and it is worth the gamble for $13. I think it will be okay. Worst case scenerio I also get the Seidio battery and I have this purchase to charge my OEM battery in the external charger
They have them for like every phone, usually 2 not 3, but the 3 is nice insurance for a DOA. Never heard bad about them other then they last about half as long as OEM.
What about those 1950 mAh batteries? Will they fit? They scare me because it does not say mB855 anywhere.
Just to confirm the 3 for 13 ebay batteries do fit and work in the Photon. Can't speak of life yet, i expect about half of stock prob a bit more but well worth it.
I posted this over in android forums but forgot to post it here as well.
I ordered this 3x 1500mAh battery + charger over in ebay.
The package does indeed come from China. The package has the 3 included batteries and the charger box.
Next we have images of the battery in its protective pouch and the battery charger.
Each battery is a 3.7VDC 1500mAh Rechargable Lithium-ion type of battery.
It states as a replacement for the BF5X/MB520/MB525 battery. But I can rest assure that it does fit the Photon.
The charger has retractable prongs to connect to the wall and it also has a usb port which I guess is to connect another device to charge from (like the Photon connected via a usb cable.) There is a nicely soft glow light that is colored red (more like magenta) when the battery needs charging and turns a nice color green when the battery is fully charged. Supposedly the charger box indicates that the charging stops once the battery is full to prevent overcharging, but I have no way of knowing that without a battery tester of some sort.
Here is the view of the light with a pic without flash on.
As I was testing this product, the supplied batteries get charged in about an hour each. Originally, I just inserted one of the batteries into the photon to see if it fit and worked and yes it does fit and charge the phone. But it quickly died since I didn't have it fully charged. Well after a few hours of charging all three batteries, I inserted one of them into the photon and see how long they last.
as for the USB port on the charger, well it does not provide any juice to the Photon via a usb cable. At first I thought it was my cable (previous HTC EVO cable) so I switched it to the official one from Motorola and nothing, zip nada.
At this point, I thought either I had a charging device that had a defective usb port or the port doesn't work at all. So I decided to do one last final test and plug in my Kensington Pocket Battery for Smartphones device (which I highly recommend by the way) into the usb port of the charger and tada, we have power. It charges the Kensington battery pack. But not the Photon via the usb.
Now going back to the battery in the photon, while not as long lasting as the official Motorola HF5X 3.8v 1650mAh battery, it does keep the Photon working long enough for me and until I am able to reach a charging port on long travels outside. And with 3 of them, I really do not have to worry. (So long as they all are charged fully). lol
Overall for the price, $12.90 I really can't complain. True the USB charge port only works for my Kensington but it does charge the 3 supplied batteries as well as the official Motorola one. Small, compact and good for travel.
oh and this image shows the pouch and where it came from as well as the model number of the batteries. As one can see it states it is a replacement for the BF5X Moto battery.
and finally here is another ebayer with a higher rated battery.
TS
We (Sprint) have OEM batteries available as well. They are currently not in any store, but we can direct ship them. They come with 1 OEM battery and the external charger for $49.99
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/OSBrowseAccessoriesDetail?categoryRefName=Chargers+%26+Batteries&PHONE_ID=MOTOMB855&selectedAccessoryID=BSM5687&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0 Granted a bit more expensive, but they are still in production and once again, OEM.
notoriouspyro said:
We (Sprint) have OEM batteries available as well. They are currently not in any store, but we can direct ship them. They come with 1 OEM battery and the external charger for $49.99
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...oryID=BSM5687&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0 Granted a bit more expensive, but they are still in production and once again, OEM.
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How come it says 1700mah I thought ours was 1650
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here's a link for the current sale of the 1800mah one. I just bought one. Will update once I get it..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-BF5X-180...ccessories&hash=item4aae919049#ht_3638wt_1396
twospirits said:
I posted this over in android forums but forgot to post it here as well.
I ordered this 3x 1500mAh battery + charger over in ebay.
The package does indeed come from China. The package has the 3 included batteries and the charger box.
Next we have images of the battery in its protective pouch and the battery charger.
Each battery is a 3.7VDC 1500mAh Rechargable Lithium-ion type of battery.
It states as a replacement for the BF5X/MB520/MB525 battery. But I can rest assure that it does fit the Photon.
The charger has retractable prongs to connect to the wall and it also has a usb port which I guess is to connect another device to charge from (like the Photon connected via a usb cable.) There is a nicely soft glow light that is colored red (more like magenta) when the battery needs charging and turns a nice color green when the battery is fully charged. Supposedly the charger box indicates that the charging stops once the battery is full to prevent overcharging, but I have no way of knowing that without a battery tester of some sort.
Here is the view of the light with a pic without flash on.
As I was testing this product, the supplied batteries get charged in about an hour each. Originally, I just inserted one of the batteries into the photon to see if it fit and worked and yes it does fit and charge the phone. But it quickly died since I didn't have it fully charged. Well after a few hours of charging all three batteries, I inserted one of them into the photon and see how long they last.
as for the USB port on the charger, well it does not provide any juice to the Photon via a usb cable. At first I thought it was my cable (previous HTC EVO cable) so I switched it to the official one from Motorola and nothing, zip nada.
At this point, I thought either I had a charging device that had a defective usb port or the port doesn't work at all. So I decided to do one last final test and plug in my Kensington Pocket Battery for Smartphones device (which I highly recommend by the way) into the usb port of the charger and tada, we have power. It charges the Kensington battery pack. But not the Photon via the usb.
Now going back to the battery in the photon, while not as long lasting as the official Motorola HF5X 3.8v 1650mAh battery, it does keep the Photon working long enough for me and until I am able to reach a charging port on long travels outside. And with 3 of them, I really do not have to worry. (So long as they all are charged fully). lol
Overall for the price, $12.90 I really can't complain. True the USB charge port only works for my Kensington but it does charge the 3 supplied batteries as well as the official Motorola one. Small, compact and good for travel.
oh and this image shows the pouch and where it came from as well as the model number of the batteries. As one can see it states it is a replacement for the BF5X Moto battery.
and finally here is another ebayer with a higher rated battery.
TS
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Very sweet
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so glad I purchased this. Just got mine and its awesome for 13
mobilebuddha said:
here's a link for the current sale of the 1800mah one. I just bought one. Will update once I get it..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-BF5X-180...ccessories&hash=item4aae919049#ht_3638wt_1396
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I am very interested to know if this works out since the offer seems to be for another phone.
Thanks.
I noticed there's a US seller with a 1950mAh package... any thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-1950mAh-BF6X-Battery-Charger-Motorola-Photon-4G-/160653180016?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2567acfc70
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I noticed there's a US seller with a 1950mAh package... any thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-1950mAh-BF6X-Battery-Charger-Motorola-Photon-4G-/160653180016?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2567acfc70
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DO NOT BUY THIS! I did and they are steamy Chinese turds. One hour battery life and the charger does not work. I bought Chinese batteries for my EVO that were very adequate. These suck.
Sidewinder7 said:
This one claims to be for the Photon and only the Photon, it only recently came out so it should work. It is not one of those that advertises for Atrix/Droid X2/Photon, which as we know the Photon does not share a battery with.
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Thanks for the heads up, big fan of back ups
they're only $12 now re listed
I had an older round qi charger for my nexus 7, but it kept giving those annoying alignment messages, so i bought one of these mats from eBay.http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261514047927
Just got it today, took just over a week to arrive, but it works straight or of the box. There it's a blue and red light, so it's easy to align and see that it works...which it does!!
I'm using a 2a supply , and it's just completed its first charge.
Hey guys,
Can you tell me just how true are rumors that if you use non-origigi adapter for charging that it will mess up your battery or something worse?
Since i use all kind of different cables/adapters and never had the problem, but now i have s7 and i dont wanna mess it up..?
Thx
well before the s7 i had the s6 and i have to be honest it did some weird stuff, battery drained super fast over night ( arround 30%) capacitive buttons showed strange behavior ( pressing the button by itself) i disabled them and used Pie control for a while. This was with all kind of cable's/chargers.
Started using original charger and cable and the battery drain turned back to normal after a while and when i turned the capacitive buttons on again and stay worked again!
I'm not 100% sure this is because of the charger or cable but i guess they do make a difference
(sorry for my probaly not grammatically correct english ^^)
Edit: i also think other quality chargers are ok
I would imagine as long as they are quality chargers/cables you'll be fine, im using a blackberry charger along with samsung one and everything works fine.
You can usually tell is the usb cable is cheap when it can't fast charge the phone, they're also pretty thin.
Just don't use the cheap Chinese **** 5 pack for $2 from eBay and you should be fine.
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Charged my S5 with my PC for almost 2 years
Charged my S7 with my MiniPC many times
Obviously cheap crappy dangerous chargers will not be good, but these rumours came from people who couldn't accept that Samsung messed up, didn't want to blame the phones/batteries, so blamed the owners instead
You have more chance of the charger failing than the battery if the charger is faulty/cheap, unless of course it is pushing too much juice into the phone, but I would hazard a guess the charging circuit would fail before it managed to set a battery on fire
Just find a cheap brand that's quality and stick with it. Anker Aukey CableMatters Mediabridge all seem good though the usb connector alwasy seems to get looser and looser. I've almost completely moved over to Qi because of it.
Get a cable and charger from a decent brand name company, and make sure that it's properly rated to the phone model you have. Any time you're using an overpowered or underpowered charging source it can have a negative effect on the battery.
I have a big 4 port Aukey charger that has Ai and QC2.0 ports on it. It is great! I use the cable that came with That charger and I travel with the samsung charger and cable.
Thx for replies.. i ordered a pack of 5 cables from Anker and they are great.
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Just don't use the cheap Chinese **** 5 pack for $2 from eBay and you should be fine.
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Exactly. Get a quality 2A charger and a decent 20 or 22awg USB cable and you're good.
Buy that 49 cent 1 micrometer thick cable off eBay and you'll be hatin life.
While we're on the subject, there's apps that let you measure incoming charge current. I measured every cable I had in the house, one right after the other using the same power brick. Two of them wouldn't allow more than ~330mA charge current. Most others were 1.1A. Those two went right in the garbage.
In japan s7 do not come with charger so you can use any cable or charger
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I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
PriPhaze said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
arddy1 said:
Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
daniel0917 said:
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
galakty said:
Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
g_seva said:
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
silmarx said:
But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
silmarx said:
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.