S8+ to Mate 10 Pro - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

Hello guys, happy new year
I wanted to ask if somebody switched from an S8+ to M10pro?
In my country i have the possibility to change phones every 6 months, by giving the used one back, and taking a new one.
The best what i can get is a note 8, which i dont want(allmost same as my s8+ and the mate 10 pro.
I had the mate 9 year ago, it was a beast, it only lacked the developement, that was a bit sad, but it was a great phone.
The battery life just was brilliant with some tweaks, as i got at least root to it.
What do you guys say about the upgrade?
Any noticable improvements in day to day performance ober s8+?:fingers-crossed:

Same as mate 9
Iam coming from mate 9 to mate 10 pro
And I got the amoled screen and new aspect ratio plus a better camera in all aspects in my opinion
From s8 you will get a lot better battery and more RAM and smoother phone coz sammys always lag a little bit
Also you will get portrait and bokeh effects in cam plus a lot better night shoots I think than any phone right now not just the s8.

Mohamad Gahed said:
Same as mate 9
Iam coming from mate 9 to mate 10 pro
And I got the amoled screen and new aspect ratio plus a better camera in all aspects in my opinion
From s8 you will get a lot better battery and more RAM and smoother phone coz sammys always lag a little bit
Also you will get portrait and bokeh effects in cam plus a lot better night shoots I think than any phone right now not just the s8.
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Yes the screen is better compared to mate 9.
Performance wise, i think thatvthey are the same - s8+ and mate 10pro.
How about the mate dual speakers? Are they better than on mate 9?
Did you felt the performance difference?

Stay with S8+. Buy Mate 10 only if you want better battery.

baltobalto said:
Stay with S8+. Buy Mate 10 only if you want better battery.
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Are you sure?
Maybe wait for s9 or p11 ?

Esterra said:
Are you sure?
Maybe wait for s9 or p11 ?
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In my opinion yes. Except if you want better battery. Mate's 10 battery is a beast. Finally keep in mind that you would be disappointed by audio quality and volume delivered to the headphones. But that is only my opinion. The best would be to test the phone by yourself if you can.

Esterra said:
Yes the screen is better compared to mate 9.
Performance wise, i think thatvthey are the same - s8+ and mate 10pro.
How about the mate dual speakers? Are they better than on mate 9?
Did you felt the performance difference?
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Yes the dual speakers are better than mate 9

I purchased an S8+ through Samsung using their credit line with the sole purpose of reselling it and buying a Mate 10, not the Pro, just the regular. Worked out great as a friend gave me his Note 5 to trade in which knocked off $300 from the S8+.
Samsungs are just too bloated for me.

I'm in a dilemma I've got s8+ and just got Huawei mate 10 pro today I just don't know which one to keep any suggestions people without harsh comments please I can't decide

rowbaggie22 said:
I'm in a dilemma I've got s8+ and just got Huawei mate 10 pro today I just don't know which one to keep any suggestions people without harsh comments please I can't decide
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Use them both and see which one you prefer. The opinions of others don't matter much when you have the opportunity to use the devices and compare them for yourself.

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Use them both and see which one you prefer. The opinions of others don't matter much when you have the opportunity to use the devices and compare them for yourself.
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That's my problem I like things of both

Let me tell you my story (even though it may be a little bit late)
I owned the S8+ for more than 6 months but I finally sold it. Main reason was the awkward and not comfortable design and the battery. I have the Mate 10 Pro for 2-3 days and I really enjoy it.
Battery is near perfect, it feels faster than the S8+ and cameras are pretty much the same
However if you are an audiophile like me, you will be disappointed by the headphone performance through the USB-C adapter. It is very weak compared to the one on the S8
Also, the screen is not very bright but it is not a problem for me. I just wanted to let you know
If you have any other question, please let me know

t-shock said:
Let me tell you my story (even though it may be a little bit late)
I owned the S8+ for more than 6 months but I finally sold it. Main reason was the awkward and not comfortable design and the battery. I have the Mate 10 Pro for 2-3 days and I really enjoy it.
Battery is near perfect, it feels faster than the S8+ and cameras are pretty much the same
However if you are an audiophile like me, you will be disappointed by the headphone performance through the USB-C adapter. It is very weak compared to the one on the S8
Also, the screen is not very bright but it is not a problem for me. I just wanted to let you know
If you have any other question, please let me know
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Thank you for you comment my problem with s8+ is battery my other problem with it is the loudness thru Bluetooth headfones have you tried 10 pro with Bluetooth headphones yet

rowbaggie22 said:
Thank you for you comment my problem with s8+ is battery my other problem with it is the loudness thru Bluetooth headfones have you tried 10 pro with Bluetooth headphones yet
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Yes
It is pretty much the same
I believe that it has to do more with the actual headphones rather than the phone

t-shock said:
Yes
It is pretty much the same
I believe that it has to do more with the actual headphones rather than the phone
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I have listened to music today thru speaker and to me it did seem a little louder than my s8+

rowbaggie22 said:
I have listened to music today thru speaker and to me it did seem a little louder than my s8+
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That seems odd...
Anyhow, Mate's speakers are way better than those on the S8+ and for the first time after years, I enjoy listening to some music just from the phone itself

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Help me decide. galaxy 9+ or Mate 10 Pro?

me and a friend are set to go out at the end of this week to buy a new smartphone. I'm upgrading from a mid range clunker and his selling his Iphones and going Droid. I need the community help to decide which of these 2 we should go for. or at least I should go for since he is set on the 9+ more. there is no direct comparison between these 2 online so I'm still undecided.
here is my line of thought.
galaxy S9+ pros
1- awesome screen.
2- great audio and 3.5 jack.
3- beautiful phone eye catcher.
4- expandable storage ( not very important for me).
5- great low light Camera.
6- faster processing power ( exynos version the one I'm getting)
7- wireless charging.
8- status symbol, everyone knows galaxy when they see it, like iphones.
9- crisp mic quality.
10- great GPS.
galaxy S9+ cons
1- mediocre battery life.
2- costy more expensive than mate 10 pro.
3- slow charging compared to mate 10 pro.
4- battery might not retain it's capacity over time even though samsung caims so.
Mate 10 Pro, pros.
1-fast charging 1:30min to charge fully
2- costs 250$ less than galaxy s9+
3- great battery life.
4- comes with screen protector and case.
5- great GPS module.
Mate 10 pro cons
1- looks like any other phone
2- no status symbol, whats this phone: mate 10 pro, wut ?, it's huwaei, ah chinese phone u mean? :cyclops:
3- inferior screen.
4- horrible resale value.
what do you guys think? coming from asus zenfone max I greatly value battery life but this time I really want to buy the best and cry only once. processing power isn't really an issue for me since I don't game much. but since I'm a photographer who post on instagram frequently I value good camera.
any thoughts are appreciated.
I've had both. I had the Mate 10 standard first and did love it but couldn't deal with the adaptive brightness bug that randomly dimmed the screen despite auto brightness being turned off. I sold it at a rather large loss, a little over $200.
So far I'm really liking the S9+. The screen does look more saturated and colorful than the Mate 10 but the Mate 10 seemed sharper. I much prefer LCD over AMOLED, mostly do to the latter's issues with burn in and screen degradation. Mate 10 also seemed a little quicker.
My Mate 10 also had to have the International rom flashed as it never made it to the states, so there was little issues with that. The S9+ works better on US networks.
Battery life is better on the Mate 10 but the S9+ isn't a slouch, either. The camera is excellent on both but I don't use them enough to go into a detailed comparison.
Just for background information, these are the phones I had in the past 6 months: Mate 9 Pro, Pixel 2 XL, U11+, P20 Pro and S9+.
Taking this in mind, I can say that S9+ is the most balanced of them all, and overall the best device.
I can't say directly about Mate 10 Pro because I never had one, but I guess is pretty much the same as my Mate 9 Pro/P20 Pro I had, so I'm basing my comments on these experiences.
The cons you wrote about the S9+ are half truth:
* Battery is not mediocre as long as you know how to properly configure your device. I'm not getting less than 5-6 hours SOT over a day and a half; is true that Mate 10 Pro will have a better battery life, but from my experience, I never had more than 1 hour SOT difference between the S9+ and the Huawei ones.
* Is true that Mate 10 charges faster, but is a matter of 10-15 minutes difference at most. My S9+ charges fully in around 1:40.
* I would add as a con that S9+ has lower coverage and maybe this could turn into a problem if you live in a zone where there are not many antennas, thus it can impact battery life.
If you care about the camera, then go with the S9+, because Huawei phones have horrible video even when photo is pretty decent.
For me, the S9+ is the most rounded phone I have ever had and it has no real deal-breakers, like all the others I had.
S9+ is very well rounded device. I have both S9 and S9+, and I must say battery is very very good. I get on average 6-7 hrs sot and over a day usage on S9+ and my wife can go 2.5 days on a single charge on her S9 with 4-5 hrs sot. She not as heavy a user as me but def on the moderate to heavy usage side of things. She finishes with about 15% left, me about 11% battery left. Battery life is fantastic IMO.
thanks for your answer, it was very insightful, I didn't know about the burn in information before you comment, after looking this up it doesn't appear to be something I should be concerned about. also the mate 10 pro is listed as having a AMOLED display so the issue would be present in both I guess. I'm glad to see that the battery life of the S9+ is good.
thanks for sharing your experience, 6 hours of screen time is all I really need, the s9+ you have, is it exynos or Snapdragon ? 1:40m of charge time is actually quite decent, I placed my facts on numbers posted by people online, it seems that their S9+ charges in 2:30h. thanks to your comment I'm leaning more toward the S9+ more now.
galaxy S9+ pro? the S9+ is the ultimate eye candy, excellent battery life, sound is great now with dolby and never heard of the Mate 10 Pro.
I don't know what kind of moron is saying that the S9+ is charging in 2:30, but I always get it at 1:40 and most people get the same times.
Take a look at these:
https://youtu.be/Oy2HXrDNpYA
https://youtu.be/HCWTfuBZ2hA
https://youtu.be/GR55y1O-bgM
I have Exynos version, but is supposed that Snapdragon is a little bit better regarding battery life. I'm happy with the device and so far I haven't had any problem with it.
your reply is very assuring. 6 SOT is more than I need actually. you guys actually have 2, so 2 testimonials, this is very assuring, thank you.
LMAO ur proving my point, my friend has a mate 9. in every social event. oh this boxy looking phone looks cool, what is it ?, it's Huwaei Mate 9. . . . . MMM wut?.... u know huwaei the company the make routers ....... oh really!? u mean the chinese company......... sigh yes... ah cool chinese phone, looks flashy
I think you get them from wish.com for $4-5.
Had the mate 10 pro, kept it for 3 months then sold it. Camera was truly VERY BAD...all due to oversharpening...everything looked like an oil painting.
Software updates were another big problem... 1 update every three months.
I found the screen perfectly fine...not as good as the S9 + though.... but you are paying top dollar for the s9+.
Sold mine for a big loss too.... price on these plummets... so don't expect to take a minor hit on any resale.
And.... Might not be of importance !!!.... but the mate 10 pro has the street cred of a 3 wheeled Robin Reliant (go look it up) !!!!
On the other hand...The S9+ takes great photos. Has frequent updates. Superb screen. Wireless charging. Fast fingerprint scanner.....you know which one I'm going to recommend !!!!
Hope this helps.
"3 wheeled Robin Reliant"!!!! the line of the month!!!
And yes the fingerprint scanner is very very good.
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Guys I haven't had time to reply here since I went out me and my friend went out last Thursday and got 2 titanium gray s9 plus!.
There is a lot to be said but for now its suffice to say I love it! I'm blown by this amazing phone. My friend sold both his iphone 8 and iphone x and today he bought his second so plus, liliac purple. If u guys want to see pics of the phones check the post out out on @Headon_collision on Instagram. I'm still discovering the phone and I'll comment more in few days
Are you experiencing the low volome notification issues? Some users are saying they can barely hear the notification or had missed calls. Even though the volume was turned up all the way.
No such problem. Volume is good with everything. We are currently experiencing a heatwave 45c outdoors and I'm very impressed on how efficient the heat dissipation is on this device, indoors 30c ambient the cpu and battery are both 35c. Outdoors they both dont seems to go over 43c degrees in 40c ambient
@Galaxo60 - I've just got an SM-G965F - immediately had to flash another firmware to get VoWifi - what do you mean by properly configuring the device?
Just remove apps you don't use, and disable background activity of "Android System" and you will be good.
I came from the Mate 10 Pro, wasn't impressed with the camera

Buy recommendation please :)

Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. Display is definitely bright enough, not sure where you read/heard that but it's great on sunny days.
2. I've never experienced it changing brightness when opening any apps.
3. Auto brightness turns itself on when the phone is rebooted not when the screen is locked.
4. The only intensive game I have on my phone is asphalt 9 and I can play it for well over a hour with minimal heat, it gets warmish but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'd definitely recommend this phone over any other
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. This phone has best screen on direct sunlight, i can see everything with my sunglasses
2. never noticed changhing brightness
3. no idea
4. it never goes even close to hot, had shanpdragon and iphone that almost melted when having gps on, but not mate 10 pro
Thank you guys
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
Don't know if every one got it or just a few. It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
Bomber293 said:
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Bomber293 said:
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
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Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Bomber293 said:
It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
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Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
Bomber293 said:
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Good to hear I'll defenetly see one in electronic shop and probably buy it
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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My Mate 10 Pro has 0 problem
Sent from my BLA-L29 using Tapatalk
Im bored atm so i scrolled a bit and copied multiple statments from other mate 10/pro (idk) users in this forum
*One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
*yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
*I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
*I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
To summ it all up: There are many ppl with problems like clouding, brighter on left/right side and i somewhere read that a guy got a greenish matrix over his display. But there are also alot saying that theirs works fine and when you buy a phone and everything is fine most ppl dont open up a forum to say that it is fine but when there is a problem they all do it....
This awnser is not really for you two guys but for the ppl who maybe visit this thread and want to know whats up.
I'll get to a store next days and see if they got one there if it is fine i'll buy it and if i still remember or if it is broke you'll see me agian here
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
fefofefosa said:
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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No issues for me with the same variant. Had the phone for almost a year. HDR with you tube does impact it, and moving from a light to dark environment will change as it should. This phone handles auto brightness much better than my Galaxy 8 + does.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd)
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Bomber... I bought a brand new one on swappa recently and it remains as brand new. I want to root it and do advanced things, but it is not as easy as I thought. I will probably sell mine in the next day or 2. Pm me if you are interested. I live in Florida and have good ebay and swappa ratings. The phone is in mint condition with all original accessories, box, and plastic covers.
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
Yes, you will reach a point - have reached a point you don't know any more what to believe or think...Don't forget that you will only find negative feedback on the net. People in general don't post how happy they are with a phone, no they will post rather how dissatisfied they are.
Bomber293 said:
It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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True. I'll probably buy the mate 10 pro becasue idk it just feels better to me. With the upcoming updates to emui 8.2 and android pie it should be near perfect. Sure it got problems with custom roms twrp aso. but if i want to do it i'll find a way
The only way i wont take it is when the OP6 drops to 400 too
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
Im using mate 10 not pro. Only have problems on my screen at bottom have yellowish tint. Already send to huawei and change the lcd two times, still the same. I guess i must live with it. To be honest, this is the best phone i have ever used. Very snappy, top notch camera, proc not have overheat issue when playing heavy games unlike my sd821 before.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
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I meant the 845 as it is the latest available Snapdragon chip in phones like the OnePlus 6 etc. My point is that the chip although not the most powerful is still plenty fast enough for most people's needs and it comfortably handles pretty much anything you throw at it. The camera in my opinion is good - when I take a photo the results to me look very good. Am I a professional photographer? No, if I was I'd have a DSLR.
As an overall package, including price, I believe that this phone is one of the best you can get right now. Of course, this will change, and if OnePlus release the 6t with stereo speakers and a 3800-4000 mah battery, I may well get that.

Considering an S9 or S9+ - opinions appreciated

Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
I recently upgraded to a S9+ I wish I had got the p20 pro or the S9
Well both are good with the S9 plus will be a bit better due to the extra 2gb ram but to be fair if you don't open to many apps at the same time won't be different. Had my S9 plus since lunch. Last year got the S8 lunch date and sold it after 2 week was good but there was something missing, with the S9 plus its like they fixed the little things I love it.
My brother has the 20 pro and ye camera is good baterry to but overall like the S9 software experience more.
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I recently upgraded to a S9+ I wish I had got the p20 pro or the S9
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Well both are good with the S9 plus will be a bit better due to the extra 2gb ram but to be fair if you don't open to many apps at the same time won't be different. Had my S9 plus since lunch. Last year got the S8 lunch date and sold it after 2 week was good but there was something missing, with the S9 plus its like they fixed the little things I love it.
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How do you find the battery on the S9+? Do you own an S9? Just wondering how the batteries compare on them.
My battery is OK nothing especial last me the day with good use video gaming social phone and text. Have 2 brothers one has the 20 pro and little one went to the S9 and he said is fine is battery he listens to music a lot and social and so far so good.
Wait for New iPhone
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My battery is OK nothing especial last me the day with good use video gaming social phone and text. Have 2 brothers one has the 20 pro and little one went to the S9 and he said is fine is battery he listens to music a lot and social and so far so good.
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Wait for New iPhone
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So we can buy more overpriced hardware with buggy software holding it back?
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Why do you say this? What makes you regret getting the S9+?
How do you find the battery on the S9+? Do you own an S9? Just wondering how the batteries compare on them.
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Battery life on the S9+ is alrite nothing to brag about. I took my phone back into the Samsung shop as the coating has come off my phone after a month. I was playing with the S9 in the shop whilst waiting and it fits perfectly in my my hand Vs the plus.
I only got it as I wanted the extra ram and spec but in reality they are both equally as good
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
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I'm not sure if your aware but you can get the battery replaced in the 6s for about 29 or so dollars if your located in the United States . Honestly I'd do that instead of getting a new phone now and seeing something better come out and end up immediately regret my purchase.
Even an S9+ (or any phone honestly) will have a degraded battery after 2 years. Honestly that's not a valid reason to want to switch back to Android.
Now if you just didn't like iOS, then I could see wanting to to switch, but don't do it for battery life of your current device alone
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I had the Oneplus 6, P20 Pro and now on S9+
the Op6 is a beast but camera isnt that great so I switched to p20pro, the thing w that is I cant unlock the bootloader anymore so I went w the S9+, first I had a snapdragon one from HK then swapped to an exynos one. overall the s9+ is the one that got my heart although I had to wait a week for rmm jail time to flash stuff. snapdragon s9/s9+ has better batter for me though.
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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Oh I agree they have better specs, iOS 11 is a pile of steaming crap that holds their potential performance back. Hopefully they fix their issues with iOS 12. I just couldn't justify buying one until they straighten their OS out.
Wait for the pixel 3
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S9 plus all the way. The pro is nice the camera and battery but the rest didn't like. The finger print on the back is natural to me the way I use my hand and the pro at the front was a draw back. Notch no so good
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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For sure it's not justified. I bought my partner iPhone x, she added 200 USD and got myslef and a her new s9+ 128gb and 64gb version (for me) instead of that one 256 iPhone x.
We both used to have iPhone before.
Utter smoothenes?? It's not 2009. My S9+ flies well. My Gf is just off her 6s plus it is not comparable to s9p don't be funny.
Better chip? Like I mind to be second faster or slower. I don't play scores. Reality is that you don't notice the difference whatsoever.
However, because phones nowadays getting so close my next move will be to One Plus. More bang for the money... Let's be honest.
It's not cos we don't have money. We both are well off bringing in more than most folks will ever have... But having said that I really like to Get good things for my hard earned money and iPhone and next samsung ain't that.
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Go and get the S9+ the battery is good enough. I'm getting between 6 and 9 hours SOT. DEPENDABLE WHAT I DO Of COURSE. Easy to get 6+ hours in heavy use.
Initially the s9p had issues with battery, but I didn't get much of that since i bought my phone in August and indeed before I updated the phone, my battery was ridiculous. However, when Ive hit the android update button, stopping the ignorance of the software update. The phone worked wonderfully and the battery was beyond excellent.
Anyway the other reason to get S9p is the camera. It's amazing. I know ppl say for camera the huawei is also really good but for 80 USD extra i still love the Samsung more. Huawei is sure good phone but I don't think they are at the level to get the phones this priced. Not that I think it's necessary at all to spend so much money for any phone anyway.
This is turning into an iOS versus Android thread. Please, just stick to the main topic.
Both S9 models are good, but if you're into photography, get the S9+
i was using a Pixel 2 XL for 5 months i loved everything about it except the screen and weird bugs so i eventually move to the S9+ and HOLY JESUS the camera is GARBAGE maybe its a hardware issue with mine. i tried super slowmo and my video was Really dark as if i was in a room with no light on but i was recording in a fully lit room with lights on, the camera also isnt living up to the hype and the mode i cared about the most was Portait mode/Live focus and my god was that terrible im thinking maybe i need to adjust a few things or my phone might have a hardware issue but im gonna return it and go back to an S8. i bought the pixel cause everyone and everywhere i heard about how amazing the camera was and it definitely lived up to the hype
bingefeller said:
Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
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My two cents on your question
1. Go to the Apple store and replace your battery
2. If you don't want to do (1) - if you are concerned primarily about battery life get the s9+ (or note 9 if you can afford it, extra 500mah battery would be ideal)
3. If you can do (1) - wait for the next generation of phones, they will have the 7nm processors that look to be roughly 20% more efficient than the current generation so expect more longevity

Can't wait to get MI8 back

Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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I know what you mean. I owned Mi6 which was (and still is) a wonderful phone but I wanted to try something else. Changed a bunch of them but not one was a worthy replacement until I bought Poco f1, which was excellent, but touch problems were driving me nuts so I sold it.
Recently I bought Mi9t, but fingeprint and popup camera were so annoying I sold it and got a Mi8 which is a heck of a device, slim, light, fast and better phone to use than majority of new devices with their trendy but "pain in the ass" features (in -display fps, popup camera etc...)
Overview:
Samsung: currently One Ui is the best oem skin in my opinion, but they are too expensive, and their midrange phones are destroyed by competition in every aspect except for the screen quality. Have bad fps scanners and Exynos versions have lack of support.
Xiaomi: Best bang for buck, excellent fps, excellent support etc...only problem is battery drain on some Miui versions...
Huawei: Great hardware with the worst software...Emui is just ugly and outdated and really needs some refreshment. Also they are like android version of iOs, everything is locked, support is rubbish and you really need some knowledge to amuse yourself with some custom roms and tweaks.
Oneplus: Best of all in all regards, not so cheap anymore but they dont need to be, and they shouldn't be. Cameras not top notch but excellent support, superb displays, software etc... No matter what the price, the best.
LG: Good phones, but too expensive. V50 is maybe the best phone out there, but people are just not interested in them anymore, so the support will suffer also. Probably will follow HTC down the drain.
Nokia/Motorola/Sony: Not worth mentioning. Average at best, lack too many things....Was a fan of Sony for years, but after owning a few of them I was dissapointed. Motorola had some superb phones but they started to make same things like Nokia, midrange phones that nobody wants to buy, and I can't blame them.
Oppo/Vivo/Asus: They make some interesting phones, especially Realme who is destined to be the next xiaomi...looks promising but availability is still limited.
The only thing about which I'm not so excited is Miui 11....they messed up the system animations and make navigating the system slower than on Miui 10. I hoped it would make more sense to simplify things....but they didn't. If they don't change something I think this is my last Xiaomi device...
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I don't understand people like you, this is a forum. If you want short messages then chat with your mother on whatsapp. If you're not interested in what other people have to say, you can just leave or shut up
@CROrION, @mejgs
I completely agree! I have also owned many very expensive phones and the mi8 is by far my favorite. My son has a Samsung Note 9 and I will take my Mi8 anyday over his or his Wife's iPhone XS. No doubt, I love this phone and will stay with it for at least another year or two, and then I will buy another Xiaomi.
I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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Yeah, not worth it, and it's coming from my personal experience. The only thing that's better on 9t Pro are looks (subjective)...Usability wise Mi8 is better. I even get the same battery life even though 9t has a larger battery...
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CROrION said:
Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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i absolutely know how you feel, i had this experiece as well with MI8, P20 pro, Mate 20 pro and even the Mi9
Now i've a p30 pro and my girlfriend is using the Mi8. The photos of the mi8 with gcam are stunning and in some situations it knocks out the p30 pro easily (i terms with HDR)
the only reason i prefer the p30 pro is in battery life and for the reason it has a ultra wide angle lens.
Otherwise i would switch to mi8 back again.
Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
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Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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That is your opinion, it seems that you haven't heard quality speakers on a phone. You would be surprised with how good it can sound. But of course it doesn't compare to larger speakers, with a default flat frequency range.
"It's quite pointless" What is the point of your post? Yes, I have high quality Bluetooth speakers. In fact several different types large and small. You don't see the value that is fine, stick with buying whatever you want. my point was that many phone manufacturers release phones with dual speakers. Xiaomi, doesn't seem to have any recently released phones with stereo speakers
I want stereo speakers because I play musical instruments and I don't always have the a bluetooth speaker with me, many decent quality phones also have pretty decent omnidirectional microphones, which are great for recording scratch tracks with an acoustic guitar. FYI scratch tracks are basically riff ideas, that you save and later build a complete song with those ideas. Another fun thing to do, is once you have recorded 8 bars, you can then loop it and then solo or play arpeggiated phrasing over top of the loop It's definitely a lot of fun. Stereo speakers enhance it and can further provide the ability to hear manually made effects, if merging multitracks.
CROrION said:
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
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Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
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Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
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Can You share where did U order it from, Matija?
I gave my 6/256 MI8 to my Dad. I am planning to get Mi 10....but I might just as well get another MI 8...not sure if MI 10 will be worth the price..compared to MI8...I do a lot of low light pics..and Aquarium pics...and MI 8 was awesome in that area.....
I order it in November 2019 by www.banggood.com in Spain.
I pay about 280€

Can you give me an advice? Which phone has better battery life and camera than s10 li

was determined to buy the s10 lite but I saw some comparison videos on the camera and now I'm changing my mind. The photos look "washed out" compared to other phones in the same price range.
I thought about: xiaomi mi 10 lite, one plus nord, honor 20 pro, huawei p30.
Do you recommend me? (without curved edges)
THANK YOU!!!
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was determined to buy the s10 lite but I saw some comparison videos on the camera and now I'm changing my mind. The photos look "washed out" compared to other phones in the same price range.
I thought about: xiaomi mi 10 lite, one plus nord, honor 20 pro, huawei p30.
Do you recommend me? (without curved edges)
THANK YOU!!!
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S10lite has a great camera
I've previously owned Xiaomi, Huawei and OnePlus devices. All were good in their own way. However, truth be told, the stability, battery life, speed of the S10 Lite is quality, such as are Samsung products overall. I still have my Mi 8 device, which I use for work, it's ok and Miui 12 is cool, but battery life suffered. Huawei, well to be honest it is slightly like a lesser version of Xiaomi, and as Honor is based upon Huawei there are close similarities. OnePlus make good phones. I haven't had the Nord but out of the 2 I'd still lean towards the S10.
I was always someone who liked rooting my device, playing around with kernels etc. You cannot do this with the S10. But, for me, this one time I'm stopped doing it from a practical sense (i.e. it is way too much effort!) I honestly do not miss it! Camera is good, I can still side load everything I want, good storage, great battery life, what's not to like?
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what's not to like?
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Green tint
It is not critical, but still...
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Green tint
It is not critical, but still...
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Let's not forget that the phone is medium high class and not everything can be perfect.

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