I probably will never use the DAC feature as i never use wired anything anymore. I have a pair of Bob Marley headphones and a 2014 Kia soul that I use with the v30. This phone seems to put out no bass at all so I tried to get my Bass Booster Pro app that has been working for the last five years for my bass needs and it wouldn't mod any sound. I went around from site to site getting several recommended bass boosting equalizers but not a single one works(oddly). My previous phone the LG G5 didn't have this problem. I am on pandora a lot and cannot find anything to use with it. I use jetaudio for my mp3s and the effects through it are the only ones that I can hear a difference. But when I increase the bass at all it gets distortion from hell. Bass is actually a stress reliever for me and am trying to figure out what I can salvage with this phone or would it be better to just return it?
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I probably will never use the DAC feature as i never use wired anything anymore. I have a pair of Bob Marley headphones and a 2014 Kia soul that I use with the v30. This phone seems to put out no bass at all so I tried to get my Bass Booster Pro app that has been working for the last five years for my bass needs and it wouldn't mod any sound. I went around from site to site getting several recommended bass boosting equalizers but not a single one works(oddly). My previous phone the LG G5 didn't have this problem. I am on pandora a lot and cannot find anything to use with it. I use jetaudio for my mp3s and the effects through it are the only ones that I can hear a difference. But when I increase the bass at all it gets distortion from hell. Bass is actually a stress reliever for me and am trying to figure out what I can salvage with this phone or would it be better to just return it?
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Have you setup the hifi settings? Or does hifi not cut it?
its all disabled when i have my Bluetooth headset connected. Its grayed out and it says, "Please disconnect your Bluetooth device."
akira022 said:
its all disabled when i have my Bluetooth headset connected. Its grayed out and it says, "Please disconnect your Bluetooth device."
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unfortunately the DAC is activated only by cable. regards
i was trying to get another eq to work but none seem to work. Base Booster Pro doesn't even work like it has for the last 5 phones.
i tried a lot still miss viper or dolby but noozxoide eizo-rewire works pretty well with pandora over blutooth. free on the playstore uninstall any other eq apps first
capnloo said:
i tried a lot still miss viper or dolby but noozxoide eizo-rewire works pretty well with pandora over blutooth. free on the playstore uninstall any other eq apps first
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is noozxoide still working fine for you? I've been experiencing random crashes recently
No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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I any get it to work either. I finally gave up.
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it's a bloody shame that the devs stopped supporting the app, I've used and loved it since 2013
akira022 said:
No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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I any get it to work either. I finally gave up.
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Alright, so at least for my case, I uninstalled Noozoxoide, turned my phone off+wipe cache, and changed the app settings for my native audio-processing app so that it is denied notifications, permissions, removed its default status, and cannot change system settings. After that I reinstalled Noozoxoide and launched it. Interestingly, when I went to settings I saw it was already set as a default app. Just to be certain I went ahead and gave it all the permissions also excluded it from battery optimization. Currently, when playing audio, Noozoxoide is listed under running services (in developer options) as "in use" and "started by application". The native app doesn't show up at all, having apparently been excluded from being used. So far Noozoxoide hasn't had any problems with crashing or being taken over by the native app.
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Alright, so at least for my case, I uninstalled Noozoxoide, turned my phone off+wipe cache, and changed the app settings for my native audio-processing app so that it is denied notifications, permissions, removed its default status, and cannot change system settings. After that I reinstalled Noozoxoide and launched it. Interestingly, when I went to settings I saw it was already set as a default app. Just to be certain I went ahead and gave it all the permissions also excluded it from battery optimization. Currently, when playing audio, Noozoxoide is listed under running services (in developer options) as "in use" and "started by application". The native app doesn't show up at all, having apparently been excluded from being used. So far Noozoxoide hasn't had any problems with crashing or being taken over by the native app.
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So what app exactly did you deny notifications, permissions, and remove its default status? The native audio-processing app on my device (Verizon V30) is the Hi-Fi Quad DAC. Can't find an app associated with it anywhere...
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So what app exactly did you deny notifications, permissions, and remove its default status? The native audio-processing app on my device (Verizon V30) is the Hi-Fi Quad DAC. Can't find an app associated with it anywhere...
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simply switching it off doesn't work? can you find it under your system apps in your app manager? It might not be listed as "Hi-Fi Quad DAC" word-for-word.
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Loving the phone so far, but I'm sad to say while connected to my Sony x-7s wireless speaker, I hear a Popping sound about every 15-20 seconds.
I jumped over to my old Note 3 and played the exact same file and the distortion vanished, so I know it's the phone.
Anyone else getting this or know of a workaround? Hopefully it can be fixed by an update.
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Loving the phone so far, but I'm sad to say while connected to my Sony x-7s wireless speaker, I hear a Popping sound about every 15-20 seconds.
I jumped over to my old Note 3 and played the exact same file and the distortion vanished, so I know it's the phone.
Anyone else getting this or know of a workaround? Hopefully it can be fixed by an update.
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I'm having the same problem with my V10. Tried it on a Bluetooth headset and a Bluetooth speaker. On WiFi and cellular. Problem does not go away.
same here, only difference is that it happens to certain speaker and not the others.
I've tried on 4 different bluetooth speakers that I have, and on one of them it would sound absolutely horrible and distorted. Tested the same speaker with Note 4 and boom beautiful sound.
I'm lucky that the adapter that I use in the car isn't affected.
Bluetooth audio reminds me of the original OG Pro, which sounded like an over compressed files being broadcast over AM Radio. That problem persisted until it got the KitKat update.
I suspect it has something to do with LG overlooking the need to differentiate compression/bitrates for aptX vs non aptX devices. Its definitely a major letdown, but one likely to be fixed.
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Bluetooth audio reminds me of the original OG Pro, which sounded like an over compressed files being broadcast over AM Radio. That problem persisted until it got the KitKat update.
I suspect it has something to do with LG overlooking the need to differentiate compression/bitrates for aptX vs non aptX devices. Its definitely a major letdown, but one likely to be fixed.
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streaming on my aptx receiver in the car is perfect, it actually sounded a lot better than my note 4. But yeah, on the cheap portable bluetooth speaker...not so much.
I have the Verizon LG V10 and occasionally hear the popping when connected to my Bose Soundlink III, and cheap BT speaker at work and in my truck (2013 Ford F-150). But what is even worse, it randomly "stutters" on all three as well all the time! I noticed today in my truck that every time it stuttered, the "play" and "pause" buttons flashed on the touch screen--kinda like the phone was telling it to pause and then play very quickly.
Anyone else seeing anything like this? Any ideas to fix? Other than this pretty major issue, I am lovin' this phone! Thanks for any help!
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I have the Verizon LG V10 and occasionally hear the popping when connected to my Bose Soundlink III, and cheap BT speaker at work and in my truck (2013 Ford F-150). But what is even worse, it randomly "stutters" on all three as well all the time! I noticed today in my truck that every time it stuttered, the "play" and "pause" buttons flashed on the touch screen--kinda like the phone was telling it to pause and then play very quickly.
Anyone else seeing anything like this? Any ideas to fix? Other than this pretty major issue, I am lovin' this phone! Thanks for any help!
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The stutter is killing me as well. I have yet to pin point the exact cause to it, but this is quite unacceptable for a hexacore device.
I use poweramp btway, and I've tried increasing the buffer etc to no avail. At first I thought it was only struggling when google map is running in the background, or when the list of apps are full. But I've tried clearing all recent apps, even without anything in the background it still stutters.
I hope someone figures out what's wrong. Coming from note 4, I'm a little disappointed with all of these random quirks that frankly is unacceptable for a flagship device.
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The stutter is killing me as well. I have yet to pin point the exact cause to it, but this is quite unacceptable for a hexacore device.
I use poweramp btway, and I've tried increasing the buffer etc to no avail. At first I thought it was only struggling when google map is running in the background, or when the list of apps are full. But I've tried clearing all recent apps, even without anything in the background it still stutters.
I hope someone figures out what's wrong. Coming from note 4, I'm a little disappointed with all of these random quirks that frankly is unacceptable for a flagship device.
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My problem occurs with Google Play music streaming as well as downloaded playlists; the stock LG app with the LG that came with the phone and streaming Pandora. And occurs whether connected to my Bose SLIII, my truck or SoundPal speaker at work... I've tried clearing all recent apps, restarting the music app and restarting the phone... none of that works... Very disappointing and sure hope a fix comes out from somewhere soon!
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My problem occurs with Google Play music streaming as well as downloaded playlists; the stock LG app with the LG that came with the phone and streaming Pandora. And occurs whether connected to my Bose SLIII, my truck or SoundPal speaker at work... I've tried clearing all recent apps, restarting the music app and restarting the phone... none of that works... Very disappointing and sure hope a fix comes out from somewhere soon!
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so I finally rooted and hard reset last night. Two things that I've changed now:
-Unchecked the NuPlayer option under developer mode
-Installed Viper4android
so far...no skipping yet!
So maybe you can try unchecking the Nuplayer option to see if it helps. Also, I suspected it could be some other app like AdGuard that I installed before I rooted. I don't have that anymore since I'm back to Xposed.
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so I finally rooted and hard reset last night. Two things that I've changed now:
-Unchecked the NuPlayer option under developer mode
-Installed Viper4android
so far...no skipping yet!
So maybe you can try unchecking the Nuplayer option to see if it helps. Also, I suspected it could be some other app like AdGuard that I installed before I rooted. I don't have that anymore since I'm back to Xposed.
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I'm on Verizon so rooting is not an option... yet... I'll try selecting the AwesomePlayer instead of NuPlayer and see if that makes any difference. Thanks!
I just switched to awesomeplayer and it seems to be working better, but it's still being a little weird.
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I'm on Verizon so rooting is not an option... yet... I'll try selecting the AwesomePlayer instead of NuPlayer and see if that makes any difference. Thanks!
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I spoke too soon, the issues are coming back again now.
I noticed that the audio will start popping when data is flowing. e.g. when a notification is coming in, a text, an incoming whatsapp chat, a movement in map, etc.
this is frustrating.
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So I had this problem appear about a week ago, and then I tracked down what I changed. Try disabling Bluetooth Headset in the Google now voice settings. I turned it on hoping it would make OK Google detection better with my head unit. It didn't, it just made the audio pop every 3 seconds.
TL;Dr turn off Bluetooth Headset in Google now - voice settings.
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So I had this problem appear about a week ago, and then I tracked down what I changed. Try disabling Bluetooth Headset in the Google now voice settings. I turned it on hoping it would make OK Google detection better with my head unit. It didn't, it just made the audio pop every 3 seconds.
TL;Dr turn off Bluetooth Headset in Google now - voice settings.
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mine has always been off, issue still persists. I've resorted to it being an LG issue as I never had this issue with any Samsung phones I've had.
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mine has always been off, issue still persists. I've resorted to it being an LG issue as I never had this issue with any Samsung phones I've had.
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Yeah, turns out it only reduced the issue, not removed it. I don't understand why it would suddenly appear for me. Worked fine for 6 months, had the Marshmallow update for a while now. Suddenly one day it starts sounding like crap.
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Yeah, turns out it only reduced the issue, not removed it. I don't understand why it would suddenly appear for me. Worked fine for 6 months, had the Marshmallow update for a while now. Suddenly one day it starts sounding like crap.
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I usually reboot when it gets really bad, then it'll be good for some time before it starts popping like crazy again.
Again, this is not a new issue for LG. It's been reported since the day of G2.
I am having the same issue ATT LG V10 not rooted, Google voice Bluetooth headset settings is off. I have the problem when listening with my jaybird headset or 2016 Honda fit, mostly with Google music and beyond pod whether audio is downloaded or streaming. As a Samsung Note user for many years this is disappointing and debilitating!
I cleared the cache for all apps, and the skipping went away. I'm going to see how long it takes before it comes back.
Yeah, had this issue with my LG G3 and now with this phone. Not sure how LG can continually use poor Bluetooth chips. Other devices work fine but this one pops so often, it's painful using my Bluetooth headphones or speakers. It's sad cause I love the amp on it when listening wired.
Fixed (so far) my Bluetooth problems by disabling (check the box) battery optimization on system apps. My solution post http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/marshmallow-blue-tooth-problems-solved-t3409943/page1
Every time I plug in headphones, the Histen sound effects enable themselves and give me an awful echoey sound. I just go into the Histen settings in Sounds and the effect turns off without me turning it off, as in entering the menu makes it remember that I have the effects off and they go off. But the next time I plug in headphones, they're on again. Any way to disable the effects permanently?
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Every time I plug in headphones, the Histen sound effects enable themselves and give me an awful echoey sound. I just go into the Histen settings in Sounds and the effect turns off without me turning it off, as in entering the menu makes it remember that I have the effects off and they go off. But the next time I plug in headphones, they're on again. Any way to disable the effects permanently?
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I had the same problem. I haven't been able to disable Histen but by selecting Natural instead of leaving it on Auto I don't get any crazy effects or end up feeling like i'm in a cave!!
Just set every value to 0
Haloruler64 said:
Every time I plug in headphones, the Histen sound effects enable themselves and give me an awful echoey sound. I just go into the Histen settings in Sounds and the effect turns off without me turning it off, as in entering the menu makes it remember that I have the effects off and they go off. But the next time I plug in headphones, they're on again. Any way to disable the effects permanently?
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I had the same problem. I haven't been able to disable Histen but by selecting Natural instead of leaving it on Auto I don't get any crazy effects or end up feeling like i'm in a cave!!
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Go to HiVoice app and disable all permissions.
Next time when you insert headphones it will ask for permissions just select dont ask again and deny.
Your problem will be solved.
I don't have a HiVoice app. In Settings > Apps, HiVoice has no permissions enabled.
Haloruler64 said:
I don't have a HiVoice app. In Settings > Apps, HiVoice has no permissions enabled.
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Clear app data of HiVoice and try again.
If you are rooted simply uninstall. Works well for me
I also have echos when connecting headphones. Restarting the phone fixes it temporarily.
I don't hava HiVoice app.
fosterqaz11 said:
If you are rooted simply uninstall. Works well for me
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if only we could have the bootloader unlock codes back..
The sound is good if the headphones are not cheap.
Kulibin1983 said:
The sound is good if the headphones are not cheap.
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Histen sound effects ruin audio whether you're using Apple EarPods or AKG K702s. Terrible echo. Unless your headphones are really colored out of the box, there's no need for major EQ or sound effects. Any software messing with the sound is a downgrade.
In the same place the built in audiochip like good. I have headphones kz hybrid two-wheel. Pretty good sound.
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That is so true, I tried it with Sony earphones and sound is very good, great bass and very clear sound.
I got original huawey headset..Model AM 185.altbough sound while you play music is awesome... If you try to watch any documentary and you listen a clean voice... It sounds like the person talks from a tube φ100. ( Plummers will understand)
Tried sony headset same. Philips same. So yea hands up and i don't know what else to say. Histen is good for music but it should deactivate somehow when you dont need it cause even in normal the sound is tweaked in a really bad way
for anyone finding this thread later, I got huawei p smart 2019, uninstalled 56 apps that I otherwise couldn't via adb (no root, it's even super easy to reinstall them, can recommend) one of them being the histen (com.huawei.imedia.sws) however, your maximum volume will be decreased significantly. it is barely enough for me so that alone would not be such an issue, but what is really annoying is that sometimes when i plug in headphones in the morning and play music i get 0.1 sec of louder volume (louder than max if you have it set on max at the moment) which promptly goes down to what is now "normal". reinstalling the histen gives you back the proper max volume, but uninstall and reboot will bring it down again. seems like there's no win for me..
Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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Yeah I got the phone, saw the stuff in the devs. To answer everyone's question, there is a built in EQ, but you have to open Spotify to use it (not sure if GPM or Pandora work). It's not terrible, but certainly not as good as V4A. And to respond to your question, I don't think the signal transfer is really touched with an EQ. The EQ adds bass and lets me adjust my mids to the way I like them. Like I said, my head unit is garbage. The EQ practically does nothing to improve bass or mids. At first I thought it was the speakers but it isn't. Thats why I wanted a built in EQ on my phone, until I get a new head unit at least.
Why does my Dolby Atmos app keep turning off everytime I switch/exit to another app, even though the EQ is still on (with Spotify playing in the background). I have to turn on and off to hear the difference and it is so noticeable. It's like trying to force me to stay on the app in order for it to work, when it normally wasn't like this before. I even tried restarting my phone still no luck, uninstalling/reinstalling the module. Still no luck.
It even turns off when I swipe down for my quick settings/widgets gestures, this is actually annoying af. I don't know what's triggered this bug but it defiantly wasn't like this before.
Has anyone experienced this and know how to fix it. My device is the OnePlus 5T with Android 9
At least VIPER stays on.
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At least VIPER stays on.
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It could be conflicting with viper, does it work on its own?
If so this might solve your problem
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You use DA as standalone app or as Android's default equalizer?
To make DA Android's default equalizer
1. Install Google Play Music app, if not done yet.
2. Open the Google Play Music app and tap on the three lines on the left top corner of the Google Play Music app.
3. Click on Settings -> Equalizer. You will see Dolby Atmos options there.
4. Enable the Dolby Atmos check box.
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@FP__96
You use DA as standalone app or as Android's default equalizer?
To make DA Android's default equalizer
1. Install Google Play Music app, if not done yet.
2. Open the Google Play Music app and tap on the three lines on the left top corner of the Google Play Music app.
3. Click on Settings -> Equalizer. You will see Dolby Atmos options there.
4. Enable the Dolby Atmos check box.
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Using it as a standalone app/module from magisk. Having followed your instructions, it leads my to Viper.
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It could be conflicting with viper, does it work on its own?
If so this might solve your problem
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/mod-audio-modification-library-t3745466
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Annoyingly no. The only way for it to work is if I stay on the app and do nothing. If I exit the app or scroll down to see my notifications the EQ stops and then I have to turn it on/off for it to work again.
**EDIT** So it seems as though uninstalling Viper has fixed the issue. But now I'm thinking, so there's no way for both apps to run at the same time...
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This module should be able to use dolby and the v4a codec from viper at the same time.
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Why does my Dolby Atmos app keep turning off everytime I switch/exit to another app, even though the EQ is still on (with Spotify playing in the background). I have to turn on and off to hear the difference and it is so noticeable. It's like trying to force me to stay on the app in order for it to work, when it normally wasn't like this before. I even tried restarting my phone still no luck, uninstalling/reinstalling the module. Still no luck.
It even turns off when I swipe down for my quick settings/widgets gestures, this is actually annoying af. I don't know what's triggered this bug but it defiantly wasn't like this before.
Has anyone experienced this and know how to fix it. My device is the OnePlus 5T with Android 9
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did you able to fix it?
I upgraded from a V35 to a V60 and an very happy with the audio quality.
However, I listen to classic rock. Now I find that either Android, LG or Verizon has limited the LG V60's volume to 75% while using plug-in headset earphones and/or plug-in earbuds.
After two months of phone calls, in person visits to Verizon and web seatching there is nothing that can be done from a user perspective, that I can find. I've tried a couple of "volume booster" apps with zero success.
I've found this limitation using LG's earbuds, every set of earbuds I own, and, with Beyerdynamic 770's (250 ohm, Note, after reading reviews, I assumed the V60 would drive those 770's w/o issue). The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
I've seen mention of "Poweramp" in other audio related threads, used in the thread to boost output from 48khz to 192khz, which should be amazing. But there are several similarly named apps...my guess is the aforementioned app is "PowerAmp Full Version Unlocker", for $5.49. Would this help volume as well?
Is there anyway to defeat this limitation?
Even a 10% increase would be satisfactory.
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes, no effect.
I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Hmm....I know this kind of sucks, but how about an external DAC? Those usually work via USB C and can provide very loud, very clean output.
Op is using a DAC.
The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
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I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Thanks. It seems an app will be the solution. And I've seen Neutron Player mentioned in other threads.
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
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Correct!
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And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
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Right, so Neutron has another setting (and it could be Android too, not sure), that starts the app automatically when you connect headphones. Or at least it offers to start, and you can easily accidentally tap it when it pops up. I wanted to bypass my tablet's volume when I connected my external DAC, since that has a hardwire volume control so I enabled that 'bypass device's volume' control. However, later when I went to use my tablet to watch a quick video I plugged in my every day earphones, probably tapped Neutron player unintentionally, and it started playing at max volume. On my V60 phone that probably isn't super loud, especially from what you're saying. However on my Samsung tablet it was screaming loud. It happened long enough ago that I've forgotten the exact circumstances.
Anyway, that control doesn't permanently bypass the phone's volume control. You can shut it off, and I can't say for sure if it has any affect on other apps. I only made that mistake once. Later I realized the volume in Neutron was loud enough with my DAC connected. The internal volume may well be bypassed automatically. I guess I need to listen to some music again through this rig soon to test it out. Unfortunately for both of us that won't be tonight.
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I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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I haven't used PowerAmp since it first came out in the early 2000s with the advent of MP3s. But chances are it is more intuitive than Neutron Player. I'm a professional audio engineer by trade & tech nerd, yet still get caught up in the menus and different screens all the time. If it didn't sound so good and stream DSD files right along side PCM audio, and stream my entire music collection from my NAS, I'd kick it right to the curb.
My pleasure. Hope this helps! Cheers.
Any real solution for this yet? I think it can be bypassed with root access to the build prop or the sound mixer found in system/vendor/etc.
Any rooted user care to check?
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
hooutoo said:
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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It should be in one of those two files. Most likely the sound mixer file though. I don't know exactly how the entry will look but i would guess something like "headphone volume limitations = max 75"
Change 75 to 100 save and reboot.
Again this is all just guesswork I'm not a developer and haven't rooted this particular phone yet and likely won't unless we get a custom aosp.