Ugh... December security update - Moto Z2 Play Guides, News, & Discussion

Verizon Z2 getting system update.
It's a fifty-something megabyte security update. :crying::crying:

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Lol, I thought the same thing, good to have e the security update tho! ..... In February ?

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What's bad about receiving a security update?

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Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:

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Caldair said:
Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:
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Your watch runs Android Wear, not Android. There is a huge difference in the code required to be modified, doubly so because Android Wear watches are all essentially running one of two processors, have the same RAM and ROM, and have similar screens.
Phones have more options, between screen types and resolutions, RAM and ROM sizes (and types and manufacturers), CPUs and modems, and there is significant difference in software.
The fact it's February and December is just being released (even my unlocked Z2 play just received December security patch) is disappointing, but Oreo is being actively worked on and a speak test was already released. Six months isn't terrible for a major OS update, though in reality it's closer to a year and change (very early code is sent to manufacturers with P being out last September).
If producing cell phones were easy you'd be doing it yourself and the hundreds of crowd sourced companies would have been able to do it.
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Caldair said:
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
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The arm A53 of the snapdragon 626 used into the moto z2 play is not affected by either of the two bugs and the related patches are useless!
Source: https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update: "Only affected cores are listed,*all other Arm cores are NOT affected." The arm A53 is not listed.
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_Dennis_ said:
Your watch runs Android Wear, not Android. There is a huge difference in the code required to be modified, doubly so because Android Wear watches are all essentially running one of two processors, have the same RAM and ROM, and have similar screens.
Phones have more options, between screen types and resolutions, RAM and ROM sizes (and types and manufacturers), CPUs and modems, and there is significant difference in software.
The fact it's February and December is just being released (even my unlocked Z2 play just received December security patch) is disappointing, but Oreo is being actively worked on and a speak test was already released. Six months isn't terrible for a major OS update, though in reality it's closer to a year and change (very early code is sent to manufacturers with P being out last September).
If producing cell phones were easy you'd be doing it yourself and the hundreds of crowd sourced companies would have been able to do it.
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While some of what you say about watches is true (similar processors and other hardware) they definitely run Android at their base. The version of android that Wear devices run may be pared down, but it is still Android. Android Wear is an app, effectively a skin/launcher for Android.
Saying they don't run Android is like saying my Nexus Player doesn't run Android because the Leanback Launcher looks different from the launcher on your phone.

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Caldair said:
While some of what you say about watches is true (similar processors and other hardware) they definitely run Android at their base. The version of android that Wear devices run may be pared down, but it is still Android. Android Wear is an app, effectively a skin/launcher for Android.
Saying they don't run Android is like saying my Nexus Player doesn't run Android because the Leanback Launcher looks different from the launcher on your phone.
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It would be closer to saying Android != FireOS except fireOS and Android are closer the Android and Android Wear.
A lot of code is removed in Android Wear vs Android (~950MB for pixel update, 350MB for Watch Sport).
The core is based on the same code, but it's not the same thing.
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Caldair said:
Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:
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So, sell it on swappa and get something that you'd be more satisfied with.
Slow updates from Motorola is no secret.