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No LG Android 10 for any V30, so stop asking
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-ux-9-0-android-10-update-schedule/
I said this before, explained WHY multiple times -- and now it's official.
No V30, including V30S, is getting LG Android 10 update. V30 launched with Nougat and has all the OS updates (Oreo and Pie) it's going to get.
V30S doesn't have Treble so that proves it was never a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo. V30S was just a V30+ with more RAM, updated to Oreo at the factory before release., prior to all the other V30 then getting Oreo a couple of months later. V30S was basically a V30+ with more RAM, released as a marketing gimmick to try to compete with the 2018 Snapdragon 845 Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+. Was still a Snapdragon 835 V30 "Joan" phone, which runs same V30 firmware. (Samsung had exclusive rights to Snapdragon 845 for a few months.
IF it was a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo, V30S would have required Treble. If it was new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo, then it would be eligible for two OS updates -- Pie and Android 10. But since V30S didn't have Treble, it was NOT a new phone.
Later LG released actual Snapdragon 845 phones: G7, V35, V40. Those all had Oreo and had Treble -- proving they were indeed new phones.)
V30/V30+/V30S still should get some more security updates and fixes. But no Android 10.
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P.S. Stop calling Android 10 "Q". Its no longer beta.
"L", "M", "N", "O", "P", "Q" were the beta letters before release and Google officially named them. I could go all the way back to beta "C" which became "Cupcake" -- but you get the point.
L became Lollipop (Android 5, 2014)
M became Marshmallow (Android 6, 2015)
N became Nougat (Android 7, 2016)
O became Oreo (Android 8, 2017)
P became Pie (Android 9, 2018)
Q simply became Android 10, 2019
Deal with it. Google decided not to use sweet snack/dessert name anymore, so they only went with the version number instead. There was always a version number behind the dessert name.
No one calls "Oreo" and "Pie" as "O" or "P", since they are not beta anymore. No one asks "Do we have a new 'P' KDZ yet?" nor "Which is better 'O' or 'P''? Everyone calls them "OREO" and "PIE". Well, "Q" isn't beta anymore either... It's "Android 10".
Here's the Oreo official statue at Google Headquarters:
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Here's the counterpart Android 10 statue:

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Ho noes~
Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust LG to put out a stable version of it anyway. Doesn't Pie OTA still have the silly lag issue fixed with LG's backup thing?

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Shame. really wanted that desktop mode.
still - seems rather strange... what about the SD845 V35? it should get android 10 no? yet it is not listed.
also please note that the road-map is just for 2020, so maybe the V30S + V35 are planned for 2021?
wonder if we will be able to port some features to our v30's, as i really like this phone

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Septfox said:
Ho noes~
Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust LG to put out a stable version of it anyway. Doesn't Pie OTA still have the silly lag issue fixed with LG's backup thing?
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Yeah, Pie on some variants is still wonky. Like US998, and Sprint LS998 still doesn't have it. Also AME H939DS doesn't have it yet.

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Orof said:
Shame. really wanted that desktop mode.
still - seems rather strange... what about the SD845 V35? it should get android 10 no? yet it is not listed.
also please note that the road-map is just for 2020, so maybe the V30S + V35 are planned for 2021?
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Uhmm, no. Android 10 was released in 2019. No OEM is going to still be pushing updates for it in 2021.
It's possible V35 still may get it as this was ITALY LG list, and V35 was not released in Europe. Was released to North and South America.
LG Italia has stated that the Android 10 update will be available for nine phones.
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But V30 was released in Europe and the H930G was specifically released in Italy. Their V30+ was even eligible for the official LG Bootloader Unlock Code -- which we don't need thanks to WTF exploit.

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ChazzMatt said:
Uhmm, no. Android 10 was released in 2019. No OEM is going to still be pushing updates for it in 2021.
It's possible V35 still may get it as this was ITALY LG list, and V35 was not released in Europe. Was released to North and South America.
But V30 was released in Europe and the H930G was specifically released in Italy. Their V30+ was even eligible for the official LG Bootloader Unlock Code -- which we don't need thanks to WTF exploit.
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So was the v30s ever released in italy? If not, that might also be the reason it is not listed there even though it only got one major update...
I don't know... Better ask lg directly i guess

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Fully expected. After years with LG, moving to S20+ anyway.

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Orof said:
So was the v30s ever released in italy? If not, that might also be the reason it is not listed there even though it only got one major update...
I don't know... Better ask lg directly i guess
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V30s was not released in Europe either but it also got two OS updates: Oreo and Pie.
Is considered the V30 variant which LAUNCHED with Nougat.
It was merely V30+ updated to Oreo and 2GB RAM added prior being sold to the public. V30S is still a JOAN phone, which "launched" with Nougat. If someone doesn't know what that means, it means it's a V30 and runs V30 firmware. It's even in the model number V30S
V30S was merely a re-modeled house not a brand new house. It was a marketing gimmick, not an actual new phone.
But I'm repeating myself...if it was a new phone with OREO it would have had TREBLE. It doesn't, so that irrefutablly proves it was not a new phone!
Any website that says otherwise really has no clue what they are talking about. They never actually owned a V30S and they probably don't understand that all new Android phones with Oreo (or later) REQUIRE Treble.
ChazzMatt said:
I said this before, explained WHY multiple times -- and now it's official.
No V30, including V30S, is getting LG Android 10 update. V30 launched with Nougat and has all the OS updates (Oreo and Pie) it's going to get.
V30S doesn't have Treble so that proves it was never a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo. It was merely a V30+ with more RAM released as a marketing gimmick to try to compete with the 2018 Snapdragon 845 Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+. Was still a Snapdragon 835 V30 "Joan" phone, which runs same V30 firmware. (Samsung had exclusive rights to Snapdragon 845 for a few months. Later LG released actual Snapdragon 845 phones.)
We still should get some more security updates and fixes. But no Android 10.
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Dear Brian Kwon,
You are tasked with turning around LG's failing mobile divison. The task will be difficult, but there is good news. LG makes flagship phones with phenomenal hardware. The problems at LG are self-inflicted and can be fixed. You might take a moment of your time to browse threads like this one on xda for a sense of the problems. Three of them are software support, communication, and execution. There are a a few simple things for you to do. 1) Flagship phones like the V and G series should ship with current versions of Android. 2) LG should standby their committments to release updates. 3) LG should be transparent with customers, stonewalling is unacceptable.
The V30 flagship is a great example of LG's problems. For clarification I am referring to the open market V30. It was released with Android 7 even though 8.1 was the current release. There have been a few security updates but no Pie. My wife's Sony XZ2 Compact has been on Pie for 18 months. Part of the appeal of Android is running AoSP roms. It would be refreshing to know in advance which models LG will allow bootloader unlock and rooting. Even better, just offer the option. It is also unacceptable that the software stack for use on Verizon is broken, i.e. no VoWIFI or Visual VoiceMail.
These issues are a toxic combination for anyone laying out USD800 or more to keep for two to four years. You should think of fixing these problems as building and maintaining a relationship with your customers and distributors. Their safisfaction is your success.
The lack of loyalty and transactioanl behavior of LG hits home when it comes time to buy a new phone. I have a couple of V30s', and they weren't cheap. The hardware is holding up well and that is great. I'll be in the market for a new device in a 18 months or so. It shouldn't be for access to security updates or current Android. It should be for new hardware and the capabilities new hardware creates like longer battery life, 5G, speed and so on.
For these reasons, I am not considering an LG model like a V50 in the future and I am sure I am not alone. I hope you change my mind.
Thank you,
cmrntnnr

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It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.

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HKSpeed said:
It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.
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Thanks, nobody cares.

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ldeveraux said:
Thanks, nobody cares.
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you're welcome. nobody cares about your post either.

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Lol

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cmrntnnr said:
Dear Brian Kwon,
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What email address did you send this to? I'd like to do the same (with some edits so that it's not just a plain copy/paste) to let him know the same thing from me... if oyu don't mind.

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Sorry, I don't have an address. The letter format seemed like a good way to express my frustration and hope. Maybe it will be conveyed to him by some LG staff monitoring xda, I amuse myself....
schwinn8 said:
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What email address did you send this to? I'd like to do the same (with some edits so that it's not just a plain copy/paste) to let him know the same thing from me... if oyu don't mind.
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HKSpeed said:
It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.
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Mate gone are the days where in terms of performance and most features update made a difference V30's Display,SD835 and Most features are still upto par aside from gesture gimmick you are opting for
I recently came back from SD845/6gb Ram to SD835/4gb and the difference is not that dramatic as it would have been from 835 to 820 or 820 to 810 also keeping in mind the thermals of those older chips only that aside from performance was frustrating
SD835 in my experience to date is Snapdragon's one of the most stable and long lasting chips I can even point you to some tech youtubers despite of having budget and devices laying around using SD835's
Infact given the phones I have used I would say buying a 835 Pixel 2XL is better than going for a G8 (but thats just personal preference including UI features and all ) but there was this feel about Pixel 2XL given its higher price tag I always felt its well worth it in terms of that build ,polished UI and implemented features and yeah GCAM and its Night Sight
Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk

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cmrntnnr said:
Sorry, I don't have an address. The letter format seemed like a good way to express my frustration and hope. Maybe it will be conveyed to him by some LG staff monitoring xda, I amuse myself....
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Mailing address is fine... I amuse myself that way as well

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I do not even want Pie lol Forget 10, Here are my reasons and people should know what they are upgrading for and why.
The best question is do you really need it just because it's latest OS ? Have a look at this Windows 10 change at higher ups and one can correlate how Win10 is a disaster their priorities changed to a SaaS model there is no more RTM release like 7 and 8.1 and get 10 years of updates it's SAC - 6 months and then 18 Months later it's EOL, there are automatic driver updates it creates a lot of issues and so many BSODs, auto update the damn BIOS patches (Intel Meltdown and Spectre), well I run a Haswell 4710MQ processor with a sockted GPU MXM chipset and If I installed latest patches it will ruin the performance. And SGX bug makes the Undervolting not possible, meaning no control, they are forcing those updates into the Windows Update packages and BIOS. Just hit that forum and see how many issues are there with Win10, see the latest Win10 feature - modern standby causing havoc.
Then we have the worst of the Android 10 issues, the TWRP itself is hard to work on, here's Pixel 3a's TWRP thread and see the last page, unless you flash a custom kernel with Fastboot and Magisk the TWRP won't work for Android 10. And on top the damn Filesystem issues - Pixel 2 got A/B filesystem and bam you can't flash properly and (read this very informative) then you get the Pixel 3 logical partitioning system along with the dynamic fused partitions, then you have Android 10 + Pixel 4 mega lockdown, Huawei style EROFS clone of Read only Ext4 partition system, exactly like how Huawei's puppet masters wanted at their homeland. Edit : here's the LZ Play backdoor, that XDA portal never published.
Do you think google will stop there ? Remember when A/B system came it was rejoiced for that Treble, devs are great but that Treble with GSI being generic doesn't add anything to the OS customizations, maybe some ROMs can be flashed with Magisk, but what about our custom Mods like the Anxious mod etc, and then A/B was enforced with 8.x released devices with CTS for Safety Net. I think they will enforce all this dynamic partitions with Android 10 and up and eventually the modding will further wither away which is already less, less than 0.5% of whole Android devices owners root and run Custom stuff.
Do you really want Android 10 ? What feature is it ? don't say multitasking or the gestures lol. Both are inferior to Oreo, simple fact - A phone has 16:9 or 18:9 or the 19:5:9 or the latest S20s worst 21:9 tall ratios, all are Vertical, so a vertical card stack like from Lollipop, Marshmallow, Oreo had the same stacks, making you see all the multitasked apps in one single shot and decide and scroll flick is fast and quick switching as well. Now see the Horizontal iPhone X style, even iPhone 8 had stacked design. With X they changed it, you can see only 1 card on Android on iOS you can see at-least 2. Google blatantly copied it and ruined it badly. Then you have Clipboard API restriction, more more APIs blacklisted, and list goes on and on, Youtubers and all mainstream blogs even Android Police just parrot 24/7 updates updates, what about the features ? Why not a removable battery, or 3.5mm jack without compromise, SD slot for reliability, if they are emphasized, these ridiculous 1 year lifecycle of HW refresh and OS refresh will stop and create breathing room for better devices and more support and less e-waste too.
Then you have the Scoped Storage on Android 10 (Issue Tracker) in the SDK, on a Pixel phone, Pixel recorder (Massively inferior to what LG offers - HiFi DAC routed, Audio with Karaoke input option a.k.a Studio Mode with separate files option for input included, Bit-rate selection, Storage selection, Multiple formats, Time-series graph & Peak meter per channel which are LIVE, Lossless recording, Tags, Timer, Sample Rate, Limiter, Low Freq Cut off, High Gain for higher sensitivity damn it this is a phone or a dedicated recorder ? ) the recording files cannot be seen in any app. YOU CAN'T see the files the app recorded. Period, why ? Google wants to force us into iOS style sharing bs, on iOS you must share the file to another app to view it 1:1 exact sandboxed bs copied over to Android and it will break millions of phones with Android R or 11 whatever they want to call it, since Android 12 will force the latest SDK-1 format which PlayStore mandates. Here's a latest reddit post on it, good points are discussed there. And in case you missed the XDA article by FX app dev (I recommend that app heavily, it's a must have, using since GB-KK) and the in-depth analysis Blog for the whole disaster which even mentions on how Google wants more subscription based direction and how to approach this.
Tell me again who wants Android 10 again now ? Nougat 7 is LTS release it is like KK 4.4 which will be running for at-least 4 more years. So get the damn battery replaced by LG OEM officially restore the Oreo final backup with Magisk and enjoy the best of what you can get right now. Yes security updates are needed but most of the time the malware comes from unwanted apps on your phone which you are responsible, same for PC too, it doesn't need an AV and get robbed by the AV companies instead if you take little care and grow your knowledge with basics you retain the control / power in your hands, if more people don't want that's what will happen. Look at iPhone users, they cannot live without that ecosystem unhealthy Apple
Security through Obscurity is never real, thanks for reading hope it did help something
On a side note, is the latest Magisk working without issues on our LG Oreo 20h Stock ?, I'm running old 19.3 and 7.3.4 manager ?

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Great post... I've said the same thing for a while - why do I want Pie? It really doesn't give us anything really new (other than numerous bugs, apparently). Any new "feature" you want can be easily added if you REALLY want it, but it's not that big of a deal for most people. This isn't an iPhone (which requires OS updates to gain functionality)... Google has been pulling that into the apps directly, so you don't need a specific OS (GENERALLY speaking)... to get a feature...
To answer your last question, yes you can run the latest Magisk. I think the only limitation is that it cannot be installed with TWRP at initial startup, for some reason. However, once it's installed and you're in the OS, you can update without issue. I'm on VS996 win 20.3 and 7.5.1 without issue.

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Security updates V30/V30+
I didn't realise some V30's still weren't on Pie, my V30+ has been on it since September. Battery life is better and they have improved audio playback with .dxd audio files. I'm still stuck on the September security patch though. Has LG given up on V30 security too?