Just too early but mention if there's any news about it!
ha,ha,ha,ha,roflol!!
It will come but probably later in February or later
Too soon bro!
Too soon!
Replying now from nougat G6 man, chill.
Well, for the time frame of Oreo, i belive until May, June next year we get it...not sure but probably around that time.
They still sale lg g6 rebranded thinqAI (or whatever is called) in my country so i think (hope so) they will update to P
Funny joke. My contract will be done long before we get Android Pie.
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
My phone just updated to Oreo today lol. Dunno about battery life yet but i felt a bit snappier compared to Nougat.
jshames said:
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
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Andorid P has it baked in the ability to modify and totally change your MAC wifi ID at will, or have it randomly change daily. This is the MAIN way google tracks you in malls, cities, etc when you turn off location services and network based location. It's the one thing I really want on my lineageOS microg build but I don't want to have to root the phone to do it.
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g6 hasn't been out long enough. wait a year:crying::crying::crying:
Using Android Pie now.
Perfect - zero bugs
Matt
mylgphones.com
pie beta is here. It's actually really good. I've been using it for about a month. had pretty smooth experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/d0ru7s/new_beta_updates_h870_v30a_rootedunrooted_and/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1v73-o-8xM&t=22s
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
Matt
matthew33 said:
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
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Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
harib12 said:
Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
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I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
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I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
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Thanks already downloaded
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ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS​
Hopefully LG did a better job with their code in N....cause from what a feew devs had said about the V10 and a few other LG models....terrible quality code....mot sure if just sloppy, inefficient or what..just crappy.
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ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS​
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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.
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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.
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Battery life..yea...in my experience, it fluctuated allot. For a while, my V10 was getting very good battery life, but the last couple months, battery life is terrible, especially just standby time. Its drops to the mid 60's after just 4 hrs of sitting with screen off and nothing happening. I haven't change anything on it.
I recently switched to my Moto X Pure that is stock 6.0 but rooted and lightly modded with exposed....battery life is freaking amazing. Downgrade in camera(but stereo front facing speakers sound amazing), but I think my taste in Android had changed. Moto is closest to pure Google Android as u can get without getting a Nexus or Pixel, only a little bit of Moto apps and services added on...no UI or heavy customization. The experience is much smoother.
I recently had the chance to actually use a Pixel XL for a few days...and WOW...never used Android device that was so buttery smooth and fast. Makes sense cause with the Pixel, Google controls both hardware and software (like Apple and iphone). Only things that is holding me back is that the Pixel doesn't support AptX, which is important to me (but i read that Android O will soon fix that), and also the hefty price...have to get 128gb version since 32 is too small for me and no micro sd slot. Would cost $1,048 for the Pixel 128Gb with Google 2yr ADH warranty. Also, the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL (6in lcd) may come out end of this year (November?) so looking forward to seeing how they improved upon the already nice product...at the very lest, price on 1st gen Pixel should come down at that point. Rather wait and dump the money on newer model in a few months...
As far as my V10....plan to wipe and re-flash rom...see if that helps restore the things battery life....but rather do that with an updated custom stock rom...but nothing newer than what i already have....so it its waiting for the 7.0 update.
@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
Stransky said:
@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
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yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.
YEAH! We want custom roms, Mods, tweaks, etc! This phone is extremely great!
I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!
eigokyoukan said:
I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!
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https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/
famewolf said:
https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/
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I tried last night. It wouldn't boot. Most likely needs an aosp rom to work.
speedingcheetah said:
yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.
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I got the same problem, Battery life used to be good and all of a sudden it dropped drastically, Hate to see no updates from LG Tmobile, I think the problem is with the android system itself sucking the battery. New battery didn't help. I tried go launcher and it seems to be better ,, so I doubt the launcher is eating up every bit of battery. you could try different launchers and check if that is the issue. ( screen consuming all the battery )
But cant wait to update to nougat. so finally here at xda forums. Awesome folks here!!!
Any idea on how to root h901 running Nougat 7
yes to this thread, please build a stable lineage version for the h901 v10.
Sometimes I just keep thinking, why is it so hard to update the G5? I mean, we don't have an official Oreo release and not even official custom Oreo roms. Why we don't even have Lineageos? The beauty of Lineageos is keeping older devices updated, and we don't have it! In a 2016's flagship!
This bothers me a lot. When I had a S4 Mini I used to get official custom roms 1 month after the android version release.
So, again, why do this happens? Is it some firmware issue? Maybe hardware then?
@leonardovallem The reason why official hasn't been released yet is because it isn't that bug free yet. We do have unofficial custom Oreo roms. The issue is that people don't get paid for these things and they also have a personal life. Samsung sales are much higher then those from LG, so it's logical that there are more devs then in the LG section. Perhaps they also fleed since the G5 modular design just failed and they've sacrificed build quality for modularity in my opinion.
So if it really bothers you then I would suggest to free up some time and learn the basics (No offense, this is the struggle that many developer had when they began for their devices).
I also don't have time nor the enthousiasm to do something for the G5 since I've also got the famous GPS- and battery dying at 20-25% issue and that's what really bothers me since the battery life was already mediocre to begin with.
wulsic said:
@leonardovallem The reason why official hasn't been released yet is because it isn't that bug free yet. We do have unofficial custom Oreo roms. The issue is that people don't get paid for these things and they also have a personal life. Samsung sales are much higher then those from LG, so it's logical that there are more devs then in the LG section. Perhaps they also fleed since the G5 modular design just failed and they've sacrificed build quality for modularity in my opinion.
So if it really bothers you then I would suggest to free up some time and learn the basics (No offense, this is the struggle that many developer had when they began for their devices).
I also don't have time nor the enthousiasm to do something for the G5 since I've also got the famous GPS- and battery dying at 20-25% issue and that's what really bothers me since the battery life was already mediocre to begin with.
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sure learn the basics got it
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Nougat is too old. Better go with rooted oreo and use kernel like Ceres and mods like Anxious v30 mod.
With oreo rooted you can even use DTS
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Afaik, nougat seem to have better battery but not much feature as Oreo. Both nougat aand Oreo are stable
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Oreo has lots of fixes and camera improvements, especially post -January 2019. With root you can enable DTS framework. Even pre-January 2019 Oreo is not recommended for daily use.
That's one reason why we say to immediately update to latest Oreo firmware after bootloader unlock and root.
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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To further the discussion, this below
was ONE change log to Oreo in late 2018. One. There have been many others. Thus, I don't understand why anyone would want to run earlier pre-2019 firmware, especially Nougat?
ChazzMatt said:
US99820f_00_1121.kdz
change log:
- DTS: X 3D stereo effect function has been added.
- New Always On Display options
- Selfie camera portrait mode
- Improved accessibility.
- Improved keyboard performance
- Improved the delay of keyboard input when installing multiple market apps at once.
- Photo display error in some apps since Google's latest security patch has been improved.
- Improved to keep app aspect ratio settings after app updates.
- Improved the phenomenon that fine lines are displayed on some screens when power saving mode is executed.
- Google Security Update has enhanced your phone's security.
Most of the list is found here in the link below -- plus the AOD and selfie camera portrait feature are from public reports. The AOD I verified myself, but the selfie thing seems to be subtle.
https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/contents/mobile/swUpgradeDetail.do?swSeq=621
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niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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That's going to be the plan for now thanks!
I run stock Oreo 22j in my H930, it's perfectly stable, fast and great battery life. For aesthetic you just need to play with it a little bit, try to find some launcher, icon pack and widgets to your liking.
No LG Android 10 for any V30, so stop asking
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-ux-9-0-android-10-update-schedule/
I said this before, explained WHY multiple times -- and now it's official.
No V30, including V30S, is getting LG Android 10 update. V30 launched with Nougat and has all the OS updates (Oreo and Pie) it's going to get.
V30S doesn't have Treble so that proves it was never a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo. V30S was just a V30+ with more RAM, updated to Oreo at the factory before release., prior to all the other V30 then getting Oreo a couple of months later. V30S was basically a V30+ with more RAM, released as a marketing gimmick to try to compete with the 2018 Snapdragon 845 Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+. Was still a Snapdragon 835 V30 "Joan" phone, which runs same V30 firmware. (Samsung had exclusive rights to Snapdragon 845 for a few months.
IF it was a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo, V30S would have required Treble. If it was new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo, then it would be eligible for two OS updates -- Pie and Android 10. But since V30S didn't have Treble, it was NOT a new phone.
Later LG released actual Snapdragon 845 phones: G7, V35, V40. Those all had Oreo and had Treble -- proving they were indeed new phones.)
V30/V30+/V30S still should get some more security updates and fixes. But no Android 10.
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P.S. Stop calling Android 10 "Q". Its no longer beta.
"L", "M", "N", "O", "P", "Q" were the beta letters before release and Google officially named them. I could go all the way back to beta "C" which became "Cupcake" -- but you get the point.
L became Lollipop (Android 5, 2014)
M became Marshmallow (Android 6, 2015)
N became Nougat (Android 7, 2016)
O became Oreo (Android 8, 2017)
P became Pie (Android 9, 2018)
Q simply became Android 10, 2019
Deal with it. Google decided not to use sweet snack/dessert name anymore, so they only went with the version number instead. There was always a version number behind the dessert name.
No one calls "Oreo" and "Pie" as "O" or "P", since they are not beta anymore. No one asks "Do we have a new 'P' KDZ yet?" nor "Which is better 'O' or 'P''? Everyone calls them "OREO" and "PIE". Well, "Q" isn't beta anymore either... It's "Android 10".
Here's the Oreo official statue at Google Headquarters:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Here's the counterpart Android 10 statue:
Ho noes~
Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust LG to put out a stable version of it anyway. Doesn't Pie OTA still have the silly lag issue fixed with LG's backup thing?
Shame. really wanted that desktop mode.
still - seems rather strange... what about the SD845 V35? it should get android 10 no? yet it is not listed.
also please note that the road-map is just for 2020, so maybe the V30S + V35 are planned for 2021?
wonder if we will be able to port some features to our v30's, as i really like this phone
Septfox said:
Ho noes~
Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust LG to put out a stable version of it anyway. Doesn't Pie OTA still have the silly lag issue fixed with LG's backup thing?
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Yeah, Pie on some variants is still wonky. Like US998, and Sprint LS998 still doesn't have it. Also AME H939DS doesn't have it yet.
Orof said:
Shame. really wanted that desktop mode.
still - seems rather strange... what about the SD845 V35? it should get android 10 no? yet it is not listed.
also please note that the road-map is just for 2020, so maybe the V30S + V35 are planned for 2021?
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Uhmm, no. Android 10 was released in 2019. No OEM is going to still be pushing updates for it in 2021.
It's possible V35 still may get it as this was ITALY LG list, and V35 was not released in Europe. Was released to North and South America.
LG Italia has stated that the Android 10 update will be available for nine phones.
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But V30 was released in Europe and the H930G was specifically released in Italy. Their V30+ was even eligible for the official LG Bootloader Unlock Code -- which we don't need thanks to WTF exploit.
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Uhmm, no. Android 10 was released in 2019. No OEM is going to still be pushing updates for it in 2021.
It's possible V35 still may get it as this was ITALY LG list, and V35 was not released in Europe. Was released to North and South America.
But V30 was released in Europe and the H930G was specifically released in Italy. Their V30+ was even eligible for the official LG Bootloader Unlock Code -- which we don't need thanks to WTF exploit.
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So was the v30s ever released in italy? If not, that might also be the reason it is not listed there even though it only got one major update...
I don't know... Better ask lg directly i guess
Fully expected. After years with LG, moving to S20+ anyway.
Orof said:
So was the v30s ever released in italy? If not, that might also be the reason it is not listed there even though it only got one major update...
I don't know... Better ask lg directly i guess
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V30s was not released in Europe either but it also got two OS updates: Oreo and Pie.
Is considered the V30 variant which LAUNCHED with Nougat.
It was merely V30+ updated to Oreo and 2GB RAM added prior being sold to the public. V30S is still a JOAN phone, which "launched" with Nougat. If someone doesn't know what that means, it means it's a V30 and runs V30 firmware. It's even in the model number V30S
V30S was merely a re-modeled house not a brand new house. It was a marketing gimmick, not an actual new phone.
But I'm repeating myself...if it was a new phone with OREO it would have had TREBLE. It doesn't, so that irrefutablly proves it was not a new phone!
Any website that says otherwise really has no clue what they are talking about. They never actually owned a V30S and they probably don't understand that all new Android phones with Oreo (or later) REQUIRE Treble.
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I said this before, explained WHY multiple times -- and now it's official.
No V30, including V30S, is getting LG Android 10 update. V30 launched with Nougat and has all the OS updates (Oreo and Pie) it's going to get.
V30S doesn't have Treble so that proves it was never a new phone LAUNCHED on Oreo. It was merely a V30+ with more RAM released as a marketing gimmick to try to compete with the 2018 Snapdragon 845 Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+. Was still a Snapdragon 835 V30 "Joan" phone, which runs same V30 firmware. (Samsung had exclusive rights to Snapdragon 845 for a few months. Later LG released actual Snapdragon 845 phones.)
We still should get some more security updates and fixes. But no Android 10.
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Dear Brian Kwon,
You are tasked with turning around LG's failing mobile divison. The task will be difficult, but there is good news. LG makes flagship phones with phenomenal hardware. The problems at LG are self-inflicted and can be fixed. You might take a moment of your time to browse threads like this one on xda for a sense of the problems. Three of them are software support, communication, and execution. There are a a few simple things for you to do. 1) Flagship phones like the V and G series should ship with current versions of Android. 2) LG should standby their committments to release updates. 3) LG should be transparent with customers, stonewalling is unacceptable.
The V30 flagship is a great example of LG's problems. For clarification I am referring to the open market V30. It was released with Android 7 even though 8.1 was the current release. There have been a few security updates but no Pie. My wife's Sony XZ2 Compact has been on Pie for 18 months. Part of the appeal of Android is running AoSP roms. It would be refreshing to know in advance which models LG will allow bootloader unlock and rooting. Even better, just offer the option. It is also unacceptable that the software stack for use on Verizon is broken, i.e. no VoWIFI or Visual VoiceMail.
These issues are a toxic combination for anyone laying out USD800 or more to keep for two to four years. You should think of fixing these problems as building and maintaining a relationship with your customers and distributors. Their safisfaction is your success.
The lack of loyalty and transactioanl behavior of LG hits home when it comes time to buy a new phone. I have a couple of V30s', and they weren't cheap. The hardware is holding up well and that is great. I'll be in the market for a new device in a 18 months or so. It shouldn't be for access to security updates or current Android. It should be for new hardware and the capabilities new hardware creates like longer battery life, 5G, speed and so on.
For these reasons, I am not considering an LG model like a V50 in the future and I am sure I am not alone. I hope you change my mind.
Thank you,
cmrntnnr
It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.
HKSpeed said:
It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.
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Thanks, nobody cares.
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Thanks, nobody cares.
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you're welcome. nobody cares about your post either.
Lol
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Dear Brian Kwon,
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What email address did you send this to? I'd like to do the same (with some edits so that it's not just a plain copy/paste) to let him know the same thing from me... if oyu don't mind.
Sorry, I don't have an address. The letter format seemed like a good way to express my frustration and hope. Maybe it will be conveyed to him by some LG staff monitoring xda, I amuse myself....
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What email address did you send this to? I'd like to do the same (with some edits so that it's not just a plain copy/paste) to let him know the same thing from me... if oyu don't mind.
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HKSpeed said:
It's time to move onto a newer phone. I don't keep phones after 2 years anyway. V30 came out in 2017. I got mine in May 2018. Battery health is down to 89%. Processor will soon be 3 generations old. 4GB RAM is mid-range spec. Gonna look for LG G8 (not X) deals.
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Mate gone are the days where in terms of performance and most features update made a difference V30's Display,SD835 and Most features are still upto par aside from gesture gimmick you are opting for
I recently came back from SD845/6gb Ram to SD835/4gb and the difference is not that dramatic as it would have been from 835 to 820 or 820 to 810 also keeping in mind the thermals of those older chips only that aside from performance was frustrating
SD835 in my experience to date is Snapdragon's one of the most stable and long lasting chips I can even point you to some tech youtubers despite of having budget and devices laying around using SD835's
Infact given the phones I have used I would say buying a 835 Pixel 2XL is better than going for a G8 (but thats just personal preference including UI features and all ) but there was this feel about Pixel 2XL given its higher price tag I always felt its well worth it in terms of that build ,polished UI and implemented features and yeah GCAM and its Night Sight
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Sorry, I don't have an address. The letter format seemed like a good way to express my frustration and hope. Maybe it will be conveyed to him by some LG staff monitoring xda, I amuse myself....
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Mailing address is fine... I amuse myself that way as well
I do not even want Pie lol Forget 10, Here are my reasons and people should know what they are upgrading for and why.
The best question is do you really need it just because it's latest OS ? Have a look at this Windows 10 change at higher ups and one can correlate how Win10 is a disaster their priorities changed to a SaaS model there is no more RTM release like 7 and 8.1 and get 10 years of updates it's SAC - 6 months and then 18 Months later it's EOL, there are automatic driver updates it creates a lot of issues and so many BSODs, auto update the damn BIOS patches (Intel Meltdown and Spectre), well I run a Haswell 4710MQ processor with a sockted GPU MXM chipset and If I installed latest patches it will ruin the performance. And SGX bug makes the Undervolting not possible, meaning no control, they are forcing those updates into the Windows Update packages and BIOS. Just hit that forum and see how many issues are there with Win10, see the latest Win10 feature - modern standby causing havoc.
Then we have the worst of the Android 10 issues, the TWRP itself is hard to work on, here's Pixel 3a's TWRP thread and see the last page, unless you flash a custom kernel with Fastboot and Magisk the TWRP won't work for Android 10. And on top the damn Filesystem issues - Pixel 2 got A/B filesystem and bam you can't flash properly and (read this very informative) then you get the Pixel 3 logical partitioning system along with the dynamic fused partitions, then you have Android 10 + Pixel 4 mega lockdown, Huawei style EROFS clone of Read only Ext4 partition system, exactly like how Huawei's puppet masters wanted at their homeland. Edit : here's the LZ Play backdoor, that XDA portal never published.
Do you think google will stop there ? Remember when A/B system came it was rejoiced for that Treble, devs are great but that Treble with GSI being generic doesn't add anything to the OS customizations, maybe some ROMs can be flashed with Magisk, but what about our custom Mods like the Anxious mod etc, and then A/B was enforced with 8.x released devices with CTS for Safety Net. I think they will enforce all this dynamic partitions with Android 10 and up and eventually the modding will further wither away which is already less, less than 0.5% of whole Android devices owners root and run Custom stuff.
Do you really want Android 10 ? What feature is it ? don't say multitasking or the gestures lol. Both are inferior to Oreo, simple fact - A phone has 16:9 or 18:9 or the 19:5:9 or the latest S20s worst 21:9 tall ratios, all are Vertical, so a vertical card stack like from Lollipop, Marshmallow, Oreo had the same stacks, making you see all the multitasked apps in one single shot and decide and scroll flick is fast and quick switching as well. Now see the Horizontal iPhone X style, even iPhone 8 had stacked design. With X they changed it, you can see only 1 card on Android on iOS you can see at-least 2. Google blatantly copied it and ruined it badly. Then you have Clipboard API restriction, more more APIs blacklisted, and list goes on and on, Youtubers and all mainstream blogs even Android Police just parrot 24/7 updates updates, what about the features ? Why not a removable battery, or 3.5mm jack without compromise, SD slot for reliability, if they are emphasized, these ridiculous 1 year lifecycle of HW refresh and OS refresh will stop and create breathing room for better devices and more support and less e-waste too.
Then you have the Scoped Storage on Android 10 (Issue Tracker) in the SDK, on a Pixel phone, Pixel recorder (Massively inferior to what LG offers - HiFi DAC routed, Audio with Karaoke input option a.k.a Studio Mode with separate files option for input included, Bit-rate selection, Storage selection, Multiple formats, Time-series graph & Peak meter per channel which are LIVE, Lossless recording, Tags, Timer, Sample Rate, Limiter, Low Freq Cut off, High Gain for higher sensitivity damn it this is a phone or a dedicated recorder ? ) the recording files cannot be seen in any app. YOU CAN'T see the files the app recorded. Period, why ? Google wants to force us into iOS style sharing bs, on iOS you must share the file to another app to view it 1:1 exact sandboxed bs copied over to Android and it will break millions of phones with Android R or 11 whatever they want to call it, since Android 12 will force the latest SDK-1 format which PlayStore mandates. Here's a latest reddit post on it, good points are discussed there. And in case you missed the XDA article by FX app dev (I recommend that app heavily, it's a must have, using since GB-KK) and the in-depth analysis Blog for the whole disaster which even mentions on how Google wants more subscription based direction and how to approach this.
Tell me again who wants Android 10 again now ? Nougat 7 is LTS release it is like KK 4.4 which will be running for at-least 4 more years. So get the damn battery replaced by LG OEM officially restore the Oreo final backup with Magisk and enjoy the best of what you can get right now. Yes security updates are needed but most of the time the malware comes from unwanted apps on your phone which you are responsible, same for PC too, it doesn't need an AV and get robbed by the AV companies instead if you take little care and grow your knowledge with basics you retain the control / power in your hands, if more people don't want that's what will happen. Look at iPhone users, they cannot live without that ecosystem unhealthy Apple
Security through Obscurity is never real, thanks for reading hope it did help something
On a side note, is the latest Magisk working without issues on our LG Oreo 20h Stock ?, I'm running old 19.3 and 7.3.4 manager ?
Great post... I've said the same thing for a while - why do I want Pie? It really doesn't give us anything really new (other than numerous bugs, apparently). Any new "feature" you want can be easily added if you REALLY want it, but it's not that big of a deal for most people. This isn't an iPhone (which requires OS updates to gain functionality)... Google has been pulling that into the apps directly, so you don't need a specific OS (GENERALLY speaking)... to get a feature...
To answer your last question, yes you can run the latest Magisk. I think the only limitation is that it cannot be installed with TWRP at initial startup, for some reason. However, once it's installed and you're in the OS, you can update without issue. I'm on VS996 win 20.3 and 7.5.1 without issue.
Security updates V30/V30+
I didn't realise some V30's still weren't on Pie, my V30+ has been on it since September. Battery life is better and they have improved audio playback with .dxd audio files. I'm still stuck on the September security patch though. Has LG given up on V30 security too?
Hello everyone!
I have a question regarding Pie (official) on the LG V30, I understand there is a US998 version of Pie, I already frankensteined (?) an H931 to US998, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I was about to update to Pie but was wondering if its worth it? I bought this phone recently with Oreo on it and the AT&T rom. Downgraded to Nougat as per Frankenstein method instructions and went back up to Oreo, this time US998, was able to unlock bootloader and root. For the little while I was on Nougat, could definitely tell the battery did not drain as quick as on Oreo (as I had read before buying the phone) and I read some users started getting battery life back with Pie, among a few Pie features. But I also heard, updating to Pie actually changes the partition structure and thus making it harder to install custom roms in the future? is that true? I'm wondering mostly because I would like to extend the life of the device eventually and going the Android 10 route (LOS or whatever) or similar. I did this with the LG G3 back in the day, using crDroid Nougat which made it faster than ever, had all nougat features, no bloatware, lots of stable features of the rom itself, and made the battery better than ever. My original idea was to update to Pie then do a factory reset to make sure everything works as it should.
TLDR: Should I update to Pie? or stay in Oreo?
Thanks.
You can always upgrade to pie at any point right? So why give it a go when you gone through Oreo custom ROMs too
I came from Oreo don't see much night and day difference just a few e.g pill navigation , LG's dual apps(works with a selective few)
Also right now custom Roms for Oreo are better compared to Android 10 ROMs for this device ,go for a AOSP pie (e.g havoc 9) give it a try
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techyrock said:
You can always upgrade to pie at any point right? So why give it a go when you gone through Oreo custom ROMs too
I came from Oreo don't see much night and day difference just a few e.g pill navigation , LG's dual apps(works with a selective few)
Also right now custom Roms for Oreo are better compared to Android 10 ROMs for this device ,go for a AOSP pie (e.g havoc 9) give it a try
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Thanks for the quick reply! Are there custom roms that have, eg: better battery life and quad dac working normally? I mean, the battery is not bad, but I can tell there is a certain drain compared to the stock Nougat the phone comes with (again though, I bought this refurbished with Oreo already on it).
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Thanks for the quick reply! Are there custom roms that have, eg: better battery life and quad dac working normally? I mean, the battery is not bad, but I can tell there is a certain drain compared to the stock Nougat the phone comes with (again though, I bought this refurbished with Oreo already on it).
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I didn't notice that much of a battery differences in between Pie and Oreo,
both being rooted in similar apps Pie might be slightly better? Or maybe same, like there wasn't dramatic drain on Oreo for me to be forced to come back to Pie,
Hmm among custom ROM I haven't had much of luck meaning I have Havoc a try and since I was coming from pie to Oreo to havoc couldn't get it working without permissive kernel and then didn't bother and flashed PIE zip I have lots of data 6gb WhatsApp alone so I avoid swapping ROMs I'll thought when I get the V40 or V30+ or smth with 845~855
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Moonfrost said:
Hello everyone!
I have a question regarding Pie (official) on the LG V30, I understand there is a US998 version of Pie, I already frankensteined (?) an H931 to US998, unlocked bootloader and rooted. I was about to update to Pie but was wondering if its worth it? I bought this phone recently with Oreo on it and the AT&T rom. Downgraded to Nougat as per Frankenstein method instructions and went back up to Oreo, this time US998, was able to unlock bootloader and root. For the little while I was on Nougat, could definitely tell the battery did not drain as quick as on Oreo (as I had read before buying the phone) and I read some users started getting battery life back with Pie, among a few Pie features. But I also heard, updating to Pie actually changes the partition structure and thus making it harder to install custom roms in the future? is that true? I'm wondering mostly because I would like to extend the life of the device eventually and going the Android 10 route (LOS or whatever) or similar. I did this with the LG G3 back in the day, using crDroid Nougat which made it faster than ever, had all nougat features, no bloatware, lots of stable features of the rom itself, and made the battery better than ever. My original idea was to update to Pie then do a factory reset to make sure everything works as it should.
TLDR: Should I update to Pie? or stay in Oreo?
Thanks.
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Just make sure you update to latest Oreo, not the early Oreo needed for Bootloader Unlock. You need latest Oreo for DTS 3D Stereo and the many camera improvements.
I'm still on rooted stock US998 20h Oreo.
For using android 10 ROMs you'd need to have stock pie
But to use pie aosp it'd be best if you stay with stock oreo as Android 10 ROMs have a few bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/detailed-guide-aosp-roms-issues-solution-t4002535
Yep, seen that, I was doing some research. I think I will just stick to newest Oreo for now and try some custom pie roms, such as Havoc OS. Eventually, if I see any stable Android 10 roms appear, I'll move to that. Thanks for your help!
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Just make sure you update to latest Oreo, not the early Oreo needed for Bootloader Unlock. You need latest Oreo for DTS 3D Stereo and the many camera improvements.
I'm still on rooted stock US998 20h Oreo.
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Hi Chazz,
I still have LG V30 h931 US998 20h rooted (stock) following your instructions. It has been solid as a rock, and I can do anything I need to with it. Recently picked up a One Plus 9 pro and I am seriously considering returning it before the 14 days run out. Battery life on my V30 is measured in days, not hours.
Just not seeing all that much increased performance to justify the 1k price. If I return it, I will get a Nord 10 and save a lot of cash.
Thanks for your hard work on this device. I hope there is a decent mod or update around the bend for this great phone someday soon.
hammeru said:
Hi Chazz,
I still have LG V30 h931 US998 20h rooted (stock) following your instructions. It has been solid as a rock, and I can do anything I need to with it. Recently picked up a One Plus 9 pro and I am seriously considering returning it before the 14 days run out. Battery life on my V30 is measured in days, not hours.
Just not seeing all that much increased performance to justify the 1k price. If I return it, I will get a Nord 10 and save a lot of cash.
Thanks for your hard work on this device. I hope there is a decent mod or update around the bend for this great phone someday soon.
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Hi Chazz,
I just installed DTS 3D Stereo and it appears to be working with the eq add-on installed as well.
In your opinion, Which are the better camera mods and what do I need to be careful about if installing one?
Since the DTS 3D installed without issue am I good to go? (I should know this already right?)
Thank you so much for your help and support to all of the V30 fans for so long. I now have a Pixel 4A 5G as a tester and I am still not overly impressed with it over my rooted 2017 LG V30. A camera upgrade via software would likely keep me happy with this phone for several more years.
hammeru said:
Hi Chazz,
I just installed DTS 3D Stereo and it appears to be working with the eq add-on installed as well.
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You're welcome.
hammeru said:
In your opinion, Which are the better camera mods and what do I need to be careful about if installing one?
Since the DTS 3D installed without issue am I good to go? (I should know this already right?)
Thank you so much for your help and support to all of the V30 fans for so long. I now have a Pixel 4A 5G as a tester and I am still not overly impressed with it over my rooted 2017 LG V30. A camera upgrade via software would likely keep me happy with this phone for several more years.
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There are plenty of GCam versions out there but I admit I have lost track of which ones are better. In the first year of development, there was always something wrong with them and most people ended up using two different versions for various scenarios. i.e. one for wide angle, one for regular lens, etc. Maybe that all got fixed, but I am not sure. Then TotallyAnxious developed her omnibus module which included camera from the V35/V40, but her module is no longer available.
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You're welcome.
There are plenty of GCam versions out there but I admit I have lost track of which ones are better. In the first year of development, there was always something wrong with them and most people ended up using two different versions for various scenarios. i.e. one for wide angle, one for regular lens, etc. Maybe that all got fixed, but I am not sure. Then TotallyAnxious developed her omnibus module which included camera from the V35/V40, but her module is no longer available.
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Thank you for the reply, I will let you know what I end up doing and if it ended up being an improvement.
Frankly the V30 camera is decent enough for most of what what I need it for.
FWIW, I am still on Oreo and I use Arnova's mod for GCam 6.1 (the latest version usable on Oreo... newer revs require Pie or higher). I found that the recommendations at this link worked best for me, in general: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-suggested/
I use the stock cam as well as this one as needed... this one does crash sometimes, but it works great for night-sight pictures, which is all I use it for.