Just too early but mention if there's any news about it!
ha,ha,ha,ha,roflol!!
It will come but probably later in February or later
Too soon bro!
Too soon!
Replying now from nougat G6 man, chill.
Well, for the time frame of Oreo, i belive until May, June next year we get it...not sure but probably around that time.
They still sale lg g6 rebranded thinqAI (or whatever is called) in my country so i think (hope so) they will update to P
Funny joke. My contract will be done long before we get Android Pie.
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
My phone just updated to Oreo today lol. Dunno about battery life yet but i felt a bit snappier compared to Nougat.
jshames said:
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
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Andorid P has it baked in the ability to modify and totally change your MAC wifi ID at will, or have it randomly change daily. This is the MAIN way google tracks you in malls, cities, etc when you turn off location services and network based location. It's the one thing I really want on my lineageOS microg build but I don't want to have to root the phone to do it.
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g6 hasn't been out long enough. wait a year:crying::crying::crying:
Using Android Pie now.
Perfect - zero bugs
Matt
mylgphones.com
pie beta is here. It's actually really good. I've been using it for about a month. had pretty smooth experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/d0ru7s/new_beta_updates_h870_v30a_rootedunrooted_and/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1v73-o-8xM&t=22s
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
Matt
matthew33 said:
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
Matt
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Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
harib12 said:
Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
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I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
slavomes said:
I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
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Thanks already downloaded
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Nougat is too old. Better go with rooted oreo and use kernel like Ceres and mods like Anxious v30 mod.
With oreo rooted you can even use DTS
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Afaik, nougat seem to have better battery but not much feature as Oreo. Both nougat aand Oreo are stable
niirb said:
Hey there!
I have an H930 version of the V30 non-root and I love the phone. However, the Pie update is not to my liking. I feel like the phone feels slower to use and there are some aesthetic choices I do not agree with. I have decided that I will downgrade my phone to 8.0 but as I started thinking if I will lose any features of note I thought to myself "Do I even need 8.0?".
I am wondering if any of you are still on Nougat and if so why or if anyone remembers what Nougat was like on the V30 (never had it on mine). Could it be that it was more optimized since it was the initial software the phone came out with? And primarily - what was the battery life like?
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Oreo has lots of fixes and camera improvements, especially post -January 2019. With root you can enable DTS framework. Even pre-January 2019 Oreo is not recommended for daily use.
That's one reason why we say to immediately update to latest Oreo firmware after bootloader unlock and root.
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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To further the discussion, this below
was ONE change log to Oreo in late 2018. One. There have been many others. Thus, I don't understand why anyone would want to run earlier pre-2019 firmware, especially Nougat?
ChazzMatt said:
US99820f_00_1121.kdz
change log:
- DTS: X 3D stereo effect function has been added.
- New Always On Display options
- Selfie camera portrait mode
- Improved accessibility.
- Improved keyboard performance
- Improved the delay of keyboard input when installing multiple market apps at once.
- Photo display error in some apps since Google's latest security patch has been improved.
- Improved to keep app aspect ratio settings after app updates.
- Improved the phenomenon that fine lines are displayed on some screens when power saving mode is executed.
- Google Security Update has enhanced your phone's security.
Most of the list is found here in the link below -- plus the AOD and selfie camera portrait feature are from public reports. The AOD I verified myself, but the selfie thing seems to be subtle.
https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/contents/mobile/swUpgradeDetail.do?swSeq=621
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niirb said:
Thanks for all the replies! I skipped straight to oreo when I got my phone so that's why I'm unsure of things. May I ask what DTS is since all of you are mentioning it here?
Also from my understanding feature wise there isn't MUCH of a difference between 7.0 and 8.0 and that's the only reason why I considered it. Granted there are a few things for sure but f rom some research I did i wouldn't miss anything that android in general gets in 8.0. Tho camera improvements do sound nice and that's something I'd like to have on my phone so high chance I'll just go to Oreo.
EDIT: Are there any super minimal oreo roms you guys would recommend? My phone is not rooted (yet) but I would consider it if there are any minimal roms around that improve performance/battery life. Tho I'll dive into searching the forums cause I bet similar questions have been asked before.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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Root Oreo ROM and install Ceres kernel on it. You'll be happy.
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That's going to be the plan for now thanks!
I run stock Oreo 22j in my H930, it's perfectly stable, fast and great battery life. For aesthetic you just need to play with it a little bit, try to find some launcher, icon pack and widgets to your liking.
Which is better as a daily. I'm already unlocked and rooted on Oreo... Runs perfect but I've read multiple comments about Pie being better...
Is it true? Opinions please and why...
Thanks. Hope everyone is safe at home
If you're happy with oreo. Don't upgrade to pie.
Oreo FTW. I'm still running it on 5 of our family's phones.
jafferkhan said:
Which is better as a daily. I'm already unlocked and rooted on Oreo... Runs perfect but I've read multiple comments about Pie being better...
Is it true? Opinions please and why...
Thanks. Hope everyone is safe at home
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Especially for US998, nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods. US998 Pie is wonky and lots of trouble. LG never released the Open Market US998 Pie but only the U.S. Cellular US998 Pie. For people using other carriers like Verizon, some functionality is lost vs the Open Market US998 Oreo. For other Pie KDZ, it's a mixed bag.
However, if you decide to check it out and don't like it, then downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs (who works on a stock-based Pie ROM) made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run AOSP/LOS-17 based ROMs you do need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods. Our AOSP custom ROM devs work very hard and we appreciate the developments -- but with my current job I need my phone to work at all times of the day and night. Best for me personally to run rooted stock.
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From Aeron Li, the dev for AIX (stock based Pie ROM) and AIS (stock based Oreo ROM):
The pros and cons of Stock 9 Pie for LG v30:
CONS:
- lowered the processor frequencies at 518/800 MHz instead of 300 MHz and the Adreno graphics core at 257 MHz instead of 180 MHz in the Governor Interactive scheduler, which always works out of the box by default. Changing the scheduler requires a root and specialized programs for editing CPU / GPU parameters.
The result is twofold, on the one hand, an increase in speed (vaunted smoothness of the UI, which, in principle, is achievable by slightly different, MUCH MORE HUMAN METHODS) on the other hand, is a decrease in the battery life of the device, but since Android 9 has additional means of optimizing the battery, this is not so noticeable. Consider, the life time remained almost the same, but as a result we were simply deceived, because Google promises with the transition from Oreo to Pie an improvement in battery time, but in fact we do not have this.
- Lightweight sound driver. Stock Oreo calmly supports 384kHz / 32bit sound, and if you have certain tools, you can reconfigure it to output sound with improved quality by recounting with Aqstic and QuadDAC Saber. The 9 Pie driver does not have such an opportunity.
-LG removed FULLY ANT + support from 9 Pie. These are widely used (in Europe, the USA, Korea for sure) medical and sports devices - scales, sports trackers, bicycle microcomputers, etc. Why so is a mystery to me. It's a shame.
- device performance profiles + Thermal Engine profiles. They are awful. Not only that, in conjunction with the overestimated frequencies of the scheduler, by default the phone quickly “warms up”, thanks to them it starts to throttle faster to cool off. therefore, User Expirience is getting worse.
- depending on the region, the camera is trimmed in functionality. The same CinemaMode can write video either in FHD maximum or in UHD.
- Depending on the region, the WiFi settings functionality is cut. For example, for America, settings for displaying WiFi networks by signal level are available, the ability to select the carrier frequency for connecting to dual-frequency routers (auto / 2.49 / 5GHz), it is possible to choose the priority and the WiFi zone depending on the location (home / work / street ), there is an automatic connection to specialized WiFi XT networks.
- at some regions there is no way to transfer the access point to the 5GHz band. Only 2.4 GHz mode is available.
- Gestures (yes, neutered) are implemented using the launcher and not at the level of the system framework. Of course, I don’t know whether it was Google who originally did 9 Pie this way, or whether LG tried it. But for me, this is a minus of the system.
- no AR emoticons in the selfie camera. Minus for an amateur, but still.
- There is no DTS-X implementation for speakers. Moreover, the hardware is supported by us, and the mode can even be turned on, however, due to the cut-off audio path, it simply will not work.
-No equalizer as in older models, the same G7. At the same time, if you just install the application from the older device into the system (and add some string into build.prop), it will appear in the settings and work!
-A controversial point, but for me this is a huge minus. Again, I don’t know, maybe it’s because of Android 9 Pie, or LG is to blame, there is no choice to determine the geolocation in an expanded form (GPS + A-GPS + for mobile networks / GPS / For mobile networks). In addition, VERY increased battery consumption by the item "Help search for WiFi networks to improve geolocation". The fad consumes up to 2% of the battery in 8 hours. Someone does not care, but someone cherishes literally every milliampere-hour of the battery.
- degraded HEVC decoder. Cannot normally decode HFR (High Frame Rate) videos - videos with FPS over 60 - 120/240 fps. All your slow-mo recorded in HEVC will appear with overcontrast and hue.
PROS:
- fluent UI
- more CPU/GPU performance
- Newer API, support for newer games, apps, Vulkan API
- newer security patches (last was from december' 2019 at South Korean v300 device firmware)
- better CPU utilizing for idle mode and DOZE mode
In principle, these are the main disadvantages of the drain of LG Android 9 Pie. At least what I remembered now.
ChazzMatt said:
Nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods.
However downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run LOS-17 based ROMs you need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods.
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Thank you for the detailed reply. I understand... Even I've read countless complains regarding Pie for the v30 ... I too am rooted on stock Oreo and it's been fantastic for me. However... I have a G6 that's on Pie but it's not usable, it's way too slow and being a Verizon phone, it's bootloader is locked... I thought moving to Pie would help with the v30 but I feel that is not the case.
Looks like I'll be sticking to Oreo.
Thanks again. Hope y'all are safe at home
tech_infinity said:
If you're happy with oreo. Don't upgrade to pie.
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Thanks man
schwinn8 said:
Oreo FTW. I'm still running it on 5 of our family's phones.
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Understood. Thanks for replying
Is the battery better on pie? Is there a difference in this case?
EXTREMPOWER said:
Is the battery better on pie? Is there a difference in this case?
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No difference on battery usage itself, but charging is slower.
Oreo, ESPECIALLY if you have a US998.
Using Ting on T-Mobile's network, I upgraded both me and my wife's US998 models to pie after purchasing them about a year ago. I knew going in that Pie doesn't support VOLTE or WIFI Calling for T-Mobile (at least not with the US998 model) but I didn't expect it to be that big of a deal, considering I really don't care much about those features.
Now, keep in mind we don't do a lot of voice calling but the last couple of months we noticed that we had phone calls going straight to voicemail, and noticing some SMS messages took FOREVER to get, however clicking Airplane Mode on and off again would make them appear instantly. I never could figure it out until TING told me it was because the traditional 2G networks were being de-prioritized. Basically, without VOLTE if the towers are busy older tech gets put on the back burner - so calls and some SMS text messages won't go through.
Now with my wife working from home she had constant struggles getting calls to connect, and she was missing a lot of calls and texts from her work. A few days ago I reverted both phones to Oreo and everything is working perfectly.
MasterTec said:
Oreo, ESPECIALLY if you have a US998.
Using Ting on T-Mobile's network, I upgraded both me and my wife's US998 models to pie after purchasing them about a year ago. I knew going in that Pie doesn't support VOLTE or WIFI Calling for T-Mobile (at least not with the US998 model) but I didn't expect it to be that big of a deal, considering I really don't care much about those features.
Now, keep in mind we don't do a lot of voice calling but the last couple of months we noticed that we had phone calls going straight to voicemail, and noticing some SMS messages took FOREVER to get, however clicking Airplane Mode on and off again would make them appear instantly. I never could figure it out until TING told me it was because the traditional 2G networks were being de-prioritized. Basically, without VOLTE if the towers are busy older tech gets put on the back burner - so calls and some SMS text messages won't go through.
Now with my wife working from home she had constant struggles getting calls to connect, and she was missing a lot of calls and texts from her work. A few days ago I reverted both phones to Oreo and everything is working perfectly.
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I understand, looks like I'll be staying on Oreo, and downgrading my old G6 to Oreo as well. It felt much smoother. On Pie it feels terrible
ChazzMatt said:
Especially for US998, nothing about Pie is "better" than the last stable Oreo. I'm on rooted Oreo with Magisk mods. US998 Pie is wonky and lots of trouble. LG never released the Open Market US998 Pie but only the U.S. Cellular US998 Pie. For people using other carriers like Verizon, some functionality is lost vs the Open Market US998 Oreo. For other Pie KDZ, it's a mixed bag.
However, if you decide to check it out and don't like it, then downgrading from Pie back to Oreo causes issues with camera, flashlight and other sensors and while there is the a workaround which mostly works, you still risk having to use permissive kernel/mode. I have this warning at the top of every Pie KDZ thread.
On stock Pie seems LG slowed the charging speed and one of our Telegram devs (who works on a stock-based Pie ROM) made a list of other stuff LG degraded in stock Pie vs stock Oreo. I just asked him to re-submit it and I'll post it here.
HOWEVER, to run AOSP/LOS-17 based ROMs you do need to install stock Pie. But I have never run a custom ROM on this phone since I bought it. In the past, since like 2010, I've had custom ROMs on every other Android phone and tablet -- and helped friends do the same. But on this phone, I kept it rooted stock with a couple of mods. Our AOSP custom ROM devs work very hard and we appreciate the developments -- but with my current job I need my phone to work at all times of the day and night. Best for me personally to run rooted stock.
________
From Aeron Li, the dev for AIX (stock based Pie ROM) and AIS (stock based Oreo ROM):
The pros and cons of Stock 9 Pie for LG v30:
CONS:
- lowered the processor frequencies at 518/800 MHz instead of 300 MHz and the Adreno graphics core at 257 MHz instead of 180 MHz in the Governor Interactive scheduler, which always works out of the box by default. Changing the scheduler requires a root and specialized programs for editing CPU / GPU parameters.
The result is twofold, on the one hand, an increase in speed (vaunted smoothness of the UI, which, in principle, is achievable by slightly different, MUCH MORE HUMAN METHODS) on the other hand, is a decrease in the battery life of the device, but since Android 9 has additional means of optimizing the battery, this is not so noticeable. Consider, the life time remained almost the same, but as a result we were simply deceived, because Google promises with the transition from Oreo to Pie an improvement in battery time, but in fact we do not have this.
- Lightweight sound driver. Stock Oreo calmly supports 384kHz / 32bit sound, and if you have certain tools, you can reconfigure it to output sound with improved quality by recounting with Aqstic and QuadDAC Saber. The 9 Pie driver does not have such an opportunity.
-LG removed FULLY ANT + support from 9 Pie. These are widely used (in Europe, the USA, Korea for sure) medical and sports devices - scales, sports trackers, bicycle microcomputers, etc. Why so is a mystery to me. It's a shame.
- device performance profiles + Thermal Engine profiles. They are awful. Not only that, in conjunction with the overestimated frequencies of the scheduler, by default the phone quickly “warms up”, thanks to them it starts to throttle faster to cool off. therefore, User Expirience is getting worse.
- depending on the region, the camera is trimmed in functionality. The same CinemaMode can write video either in FHD maximum or in UHD.
- Depending on the region, the WiFi settings functionality is cut. For example, for America, settings for displaying WiFi networks by signal level are available, the ability to select the carrier frequency for connecting to dual-frequency routers (auto / 2.49 / 5GHz), it is possible to choose the priority and the WiFi zone depending on the location (home / work / street ), there is an automatic connection to specialized WiFi XT networks.
- at some regions there is no way to transfer the access point to the 5GHz band. Only 2.4 GHz mode is available.
- Gestures (yes, neutered) are implemented using the launcher and not at the level of the system framework. Of course, I don’t know whether it was Google who originally did 9 Pie this way, or whether LG tried it. But for me, this is a minus of the system.
- no AR emoticons in the selfie camera. Minus for an amateur, but still.
- There is no DTS-X implementation for speakers. Moreover, the hardware is supported by us, and the mode can even be turned on, however, due to the cut-off audio path, it simply will not work.
-No equalizer as in older models, the same G7. At the same time, if you just install the application from the older device into the system (and add some string into build.prop), it will appear in the settings and work!
-A controversial point, but for me this is a huge minus. Again, I don’t know, maybe it’s because of Android 9 Pie, or LG is to blame, there is no choice to determine the geolocation in an expanded form (GPS + A-GPS + for mobile networks / GPS / For mobile networks). In addition, VERY increased battery consumption by the item "Help search for WiFi networks to improve geolocation". The fad consumes up to 2% of the battery in 8 hours. Someone does not care, but someone cherishes literally every milliampere-hour of the battery.
- degraded HEVC decoder. Cannot normally decode HFR (High Frame Rate) videos - videos with FPS over 60 - 120/240 fps. All your slow-mo recorded in HEVC will appear with overcontrast and hue.
PROS:
- fluent UI
- more CPU/GPU performance
- Newer API, support for newer games, apps, Vulkan API
- newer security patches (last was from december' 2019 at South Korean v300 device firmware)
- better CPU utilizing for idle mode and DOZE mode
In principle, these are the main disadvantages of the drain of LG Android 9 Pie. At least what I remembered now.
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Hi..I am using stock Oreo (V20F-IND-XX) without rooted on H930DS Indian variant. I am interested to root and downloaded all necessary files from WTF. Can you suggest what mods can be installed after rooting in oreo. ?Its not like i m lazy to search on forums. Since you are very much active in using V30 i thought you might have an clear idea.
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Hi..I am using stock Oreo (V20F-IND-XX) without rooted on H930DS Indian variant. I am interested to root and downloaded all necessary files from WTF. Can you suggest what mods can be installed after rooting in oreo. ?Its not like i m lazy to search on forums. Since you are very much active in using V30 i thought you might have an clear idea.
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First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
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Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
Main features
- QuickSettings tile management with additional tiles
- Pie Controls
- Expanded desktop with semi-immersive and immersive modes
- Lockscreen tweaks
- Statusbar tweaks
- Navigation bar tweaks
- Power tweaks
- Display tweaks
- Media tweaks
- Phone tweaks
- Hardware key actions
- Launcher tweaks
- Screen recording
- Smart radio
- Notification control (per-app notification LED/sounds/vibrations)
- Fingerprint Launcher
- Advanced tuning of Framework and System UI parameters
... and many more
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I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
See attached Screenshots for the mods I have installed. This is just my choice and you may want others.
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Third, with this V30 phone you need root to enable the DTS 3D SURROUND stereo framework which LG delivered with latter Oreo builds. This is also why you need to update to latest Oreo after initial bootloader unlock on early Oreo. The TWRP flashable zips have it already configured, and you just flash Magisk -- or if you flash full image KDZ you can change build prop yourself.
ChazzMatt said:
First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
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Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
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Thanks for the heads up... About to root my phone
ChazzMatt said:
First of all, rooting is a philosophy. It means you actually own your phone. Like being the "admin" of your own handheld computer. Until you root your phone, the OEM/carrier still has full control. Three years ago, Samsung bricked the new state-of the-art Note 7 phones on purpose (due to the controversial battery issues) with a forced "brick" update -- to force users to trade that phone to get lesser phones like Galaxy S7 (which at that point was over a year old). This proved Samsung really still "owned" and controlled those devices. So, most people had paid hundreds of dollars to basically RENT their phones from Samsung. Still the property of Samsung. But not all Note 7 phones had bad batteries, and many users LOVED their Note 7 phones. The few people who got to KEEP their Note 7 phones were those who had rooted their phones. Samsung couldn't force the BRICK update on them. So, they were the real owners, not Samsung.
In the beginning with Android it was assumed you would want to root your phone. Why would you own a computer you weren't the admin? Android is based on Linux and you can root to add more options, more features, improve performance. Only in the past 3 or 4 years have OEMs/carriers really locked down phones and users are being brainwashed to believe root isn't "necessary". Please. Until you root, it's not really your phone.
Yes, in the future it may be impossible to root as OEM security measures have gotten tighter. But until it becomes impossible, I want to own my own phone.
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Second, with root you can install not only Magisk mods but also Xposed mods. Xposed framework is installed as a Magisk mod, then you install Xposed mods in that framework. If you're concerned about passing Safety Net for Xposed mods there's a branch called edXposed which hides root like Magisk does for their mods.
Gravity Box is probably the best known Xposed mod, and can be installed with edXposed. It's like a full custom ROM in one module with dozens of features, options. ROM-IN-A-BOX. While it's really designed to work with pure Android, the stock LG GUI is light enough most features work. This article will tell you some about Gravity Box in general. Here's also a YouTube video. You would want the Oreo version, of course.
I do not have edXposed installed myself -- I don't care about passing Safety Net -- but I wrote up instructions in the Guide section for installing edXposed several months ago.
See attached Screenshots for the mods I have installed. This is just my choice and you may want others.
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Third, with this V30 phone you need root to enable the DTS 3D SURROUND stereo framework LG delivered with latter Oreo.
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I am curious about xposed, wasn't edxposed a requirement to get those modules running?
Could you please link the relevant forum where you've written about installing it without edxposed?
jafferkhan said:
I am curious about xposed, wasn't edxposed a requirement to get those modules running?
Could you please link the relevant forum where you've written about installing it without edxposed?
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edXPosed is only a requirement to have xposed modules running AND pass Safety Net.
"Regular" xposed doesn't pass Safety Net. But I don't care about Safety Net. I carry my wallet with me when I go out, my banking app doesn't rely on Safety Net to let me use it -- it relies on password or fingerprint. I don't play games which require Safety Net. If/when I ever do care about Safety Net I'll go back and install the edxposed version of xposed.
To just install xposed you install the "xposed framework" magisk module. See my screenshots a couple of posts up for Magisk modules. One of them is xposed framework. Then once that is installed and you reboot, you can install whatever xposed modules you want. I installed Oreo Gravity Box and a couple of others. In that post with the screenshots I also gave link to the Oreo Gravity Box.
jafferkhan said:
I understand, looks like I'll be staying on Oreo, and downgrading my old G6 to Oreo as well. It felt much smoother. On Pie it feels terrible
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Actually it's a shame because my phone worked so much better with PIE. Battery life was way better and everything just seemed smoother and more reliable. Not that there are really any specific problems with OREO but I did notice my battery life took a hit and the phone is a bit less butter, but really I have no complaints.
Until someone figures out how to port the VOLTE functions to PIE on the US998 (without bricking the phone) my options are pretty limited, and I'm too cheap to buy a new phone when the old one works just fine.
I'm using Pie (JF zip), and it looks like volte and wifi calling are working. These are screenshots from two diff phones, because one phone has a t-mobile sim - which allows wifi calling (no doubt it works, I've used it), and the other phone has a mint mobile sim (using t-mo networks) and it shows the HD icon which I believe indicates using volte? The mint sim doesn't allow wifi calling, they indicate as much on website, the only v30 they allow wifi calling have t-mo imei.
I'm very happy with Pie, works great imo
AsItLies said:
I'm using Pie (JF zip), and it looks like volte and wifi calling are working. These are screenshots from two diff phones, because one phone has a t-mobile sim - which allows wifi calling (no doubt it works, I've used it), and the other phone has a mint mobile sim (using t-mo networks) and it shows the HD icon which I believe indicates using volte? The mint sim doesn't allow wifi calling, they indicate as much on website, the only v30 they allow wifi calling have t-mo imei.
I'm very happy with Pie, works great imo
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On 2nd screenshot i see "4G LTE". That's just the LTE icon in U.S. Whereas in U.S., stupidly "4G" icon is really HSPA.
Where is this HD icon you are talking about?
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Where is this HD icon you are talking about?
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I assume @AsItLies is referring to the green "HD" dial button. That's how I remember it looking when I had my H932 on T-Mo.
I'm right now trying to get VoLTE (HD Voice) working on my US998 with Red Pocket GSMA, after they enabled it on all networks: GSMT (T-Mo), GSMA (AT&T), CDMA (Verizon) and CDMAS (Sprint, select phones only). They used to only have it on GSMT.
https://help.redpocket.com/hc/en-us...-and-can-I-use-it-with-my-Red-Pocket-service-
So far I haven't been able to make it work on US998, but I've only just begun. I have one on Oreo 20h and one on Pie 30b.
Both these phones came with 30b (from YYWireless on eBay) and in my case Pie worked flawlessly on both. I rolled back to Oreo on one of the phones because I had an app that doesn't work on Pie, and probably never will. Pie is undeniably a bit slower, more lagging. Disabling SRTC and LDB/MLT helps a lot, and after also disabling animation it's fine. But no doubt Oreo is faster. OTOH, I have LTE issues on Oreo (phone only reluctantly connects to LTE, prefers HSPA, spends long time searching for network after every boot) whereas on Pie it was perfect (and still is on the other Pie phone). Also, the "Adaptive battery" feature on Pie is brilliant.
I've considered upgrading the Oreo phone back to Pie to see if the LTE problem goes away, or whether it's a persistent modem issue. But I would roll back to Oreo anyway, and right now it is not a high priority in my life.
Hello, so I've heard the V35 is getting Velvet UI Android 10 from LG, my question is about how possible is it to port the official rom to the V30?
From what I understand the V30 and V35 share most of the same components except the chipset, front camera and wide angle. Cameras seem to be reasonably easy to fix even if with GCam, chipset would probably be the hardest.
Does someone have an idea of how possible this would be? What are the limitations on this approach?
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Hello, so I've heard the V35 is getting Velvet UI Android 10 from LG, my question is about how possible is it to port the official rom to the V30?
From what I understand the V30 and V35 share most of the same components except the chipset, front camera and wide angle. Cameras seem to be reasonably easy to fix even if with GCam, chipset would probably be the hardest.
Does someone have an idea of how possible this would be? What are the limitations on this approach?
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Someone who is technically proficient can do it, but that's different from someone will do it.
Most devs don't like to work with stock-based ROMs. They prefer to work with LOS-based custom ROMs.
The only current V30 stock-based ROM is A.I.X. The A.I.X. ROM dev -- who has already ported many V35 libs to V30 -- would be your most likely bet.
He does not post his ROMs on XDA.
ChazzMatt said:
Someone who is technically proficient can do it, but different from someone will do it.
Most devs don't like to work with stock ROMs. Someone like the stock-based V30 A.I.X. ROM dev -- who has already ported many V35 libs to V30 -- would be your most likely bet.
He does not post his ROMs on XDA.
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I imagine these come from those Russian forums that keep getting linked? Will be interesting to see if someone at least tries it.
We should start V35 port operation
Some really should port the G7 One Rom. Stop wasting time with LG stock libs etc unless they're needed. The G7 One is the same hw and running Android 10.
I would love to get a V35 port. I just don't understand why people want a stripped down version of Android.
Sent from my LG-H932 using XDA Labs
thefpspower said:
Hello, so I've heard the V35 is getting Velvet UI Android 10 from LG, my question is about how possible is it to port the official rom to the V30?
From what I understand the V30 and V35 share most of the same components except the chipset, front camera and wide angle. Cameras seem to be reasonably easy to fix even if with GCam, chipset would probably be the hardest.
Does someone have an idea of how possible this would be? What are the limitations on this approach?
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Yes it is possible. But no who is capable of doing it wants to do it.
BROKEN1981 said:
I would love to get a V35 port. I just don't understand why people want a stripped down version of Android.
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Because for them, having "Android 10" is more important than having the premium features of LG flagship phones.
I don't understand that philosophy. I bought the phone for the hardware features and software tricks.
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nate0 said:
Some really should port the G7 One Rom. Stop wasting time with LG stock libs etc unless they're needed. The G7 One is the same hw and running Android 10.
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The stock libs are necessary in many cases. Like the DTS Surround Stereo, which LG accidentally put in and never enabled. We enabled it with root.
AIX dev showed a lot of latter Oreo and the botched Pie is simply LG port of V40 firmware (which would also be V35). For Pie they LG was just too lazy to clean it up before they left. But the AIX dev showed we have libs for stuff LG never intended V30 to have -- because it was ported from newer models.
LG is still doing that. He showed V35 and V40 have libs for dual display, which doesn't exist for those two phones -- but which were "accidentally" ported by LG from V50 for Android 10.
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The stock libs are necessary in many cases. Like the DTS Surround Stereo, which LG accidentally put in and never enabled. We enabled it with root.
AIX dev showed a lot of latter Oreo and the botched Pie is simply LG port of V40 firmware (which would also be V35). For Pie they were just too lazy to clean it up before they left.
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I get that, my point is I am fond of Android One. The LG UI over top of that which includes the "premium code" that LG is known for just makes icing on the cake. DAC support, AOD, etc. The LG UX is definitely not low grade. I won't dismiss that either. My point being is that someone has a G7 One dump and I am wondering how much more time or effort it would be to port or build a V30 ROM from that than a V35 port.
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AIX dev showed a lot of latter Oreo and the botched Pie is simply LG port of V40 firmware (which would also be V35). For Pie they were just too lazy to clean it up before they left.
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The botched Pie to me always looked like Oreo slapped with a custom ****ty implementation of the pill navigation full of bugs that never got fixed... They really gave 0 ****s about giving a stable and fast Android 9, they just wanted to say "hey we gave you 2 major updates".
****ing sad honestly, not sure I can come back to LG after this.
thefpspower said:
The botched Pie to me always looked like Oreo slapped with a custom ****ty implementation of the pill navigation full of bugs that never got fixed... They really gave 0 ****s about giving a stable and fast Android 9, they just wanted to say "hey we gave you 2 major updates".
****ing sad honestly, not sure I can come back to LG after this.
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Yeah, unfortunately LG has had something going with their HW design for a long time that I personally cannot look away from yet. Then they started in on the notch/hole punch trend that came up about 2 years ago, so I have stuck with only up to the V35. The headphone jack alone is one core reason users still stay here, and I think they understand that....that and the DAC itself are only found in their devices and maybe a few other Chinese devices. Will be interesting to see what they decide to do after these Velvet "marketing trended" devices go aged....