Huawei photo quality vs. Samsung's flagship photo quality
Hello XDA Huawei users,
Is there a Huawei phone that makes better photos than Samsung flagship devices like S8/S8+/Note8 ?
If yes could You tell me the model name?
Haven't you seen any photos of p9, mate 9 and mate 10 series??
It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
madphone said:
It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
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Do you mean that Google Pixel phones make better photos than Mate and S8/Note8 ?
androidbadboy said:
Do you mean that Google Pixel phones make better photos than Mate and S8/Note8 ?
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
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It is hard to take bad pictures with the pixels using auto mode, auto focus?
Bromsoket said:
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Thanks for your input!
Does it mean that Samsung S8/S8+/Note8 will NOT make better pics than Huawei and Google Pixel 2?
Depends on you personal preference.
Me personally I never liked Samsung camera's
Of those 3 I will rank mate 10 first not because it has the highest quality (it's not bad in any way) but because it is the most "real camera" like in terms of controls and user experience.
Pixel 2 is great but lacks control..
And the portrait mode, seems like most "photographers" don't know the difference between out of focus and bokeh...
None of the are perfect but Note 8's portrait/bokeh look horrible and fake.
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I don't know about Samsung flagships but although I like my Mate 10 Pro a lot the camera disappoints me. If you like .. see this:
https://goo.gl/BFKuwn
Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
androidbadboy said:
Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
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In my opinion the regular Mate 10 is the best as it still uses 16:9, has the headphone jack, and the front fingerprint sensor for easy unlocking when sitting on your desk at work, plus no worries about any burn in because it uses an LCD panel (which I feel is better than Amoled). Of course it really depends on what you like and/or need! Other than these obvious differences everything else is the same...I think!
I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
elviss0812345 said:
I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
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Well, You must consider that Your son maybe black.
So which one makes better photos? Cause I'm getting the feeling that you'e not sure
And relax, Your son is the most important person in the world, not a phone.
Why 16:9 is better in Your (all XDA users) opinon? Or isnt?
Mate 10 regular better than Mate 10 Pro? How come?
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Well should I get the p20 (non pro) or the mate 10 pro? I'm looking for a great camera experience and for selfies too. I know the difference in specs but I'm looking for honest real life opinions. I've seen a whole bunch of YouTube videos and I have to say even though some photos appear darker on the mate 10 it looks more realistic I guess where as some pics they look really close. I heard the mate 10 pro gives great selfies and even though the p20 has a 24mp selfie cam it isn't really that great compared to the mate 10 pro.
So next week I'm gonna buy one of them for my wife so please can anyone help me? And yes the p20 is 150 dollars more expensive over here which is why I'm hesitating too.
Cant directly compare the two, only used one but selfies on the Mate 10 under low light are crap unless you use a 3rd party app like G-Cam. Huawei's oversharpening, overexposure and lack of autofocus in low light is bad with the default one.
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy Note 9's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Wifi in car
nice article
Starry night
Thought this came out pretty good, rocket launch from the other night
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Not great like p20 pro
It takes amazing low light pictures. Pitch dark images look like daylight, Best I have seen.
I don`t have this model but am interested in the topic as well because I would like to buy Galaxy note 9, and a camera is one of the things I pay most attention to when buying a phone!
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I don`t have this model but am interested in the topic as well because I would like to buy Galaxy note 9, and a camera is one of the things I pay most attention to when buying a phone!
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Average with low light and night shots
Mate 20 pro camera much better
rowihel2012 said:
Average with low light and night shots
Mate 20 pro camera much better
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I am an Note 9 user.
But I agree that Mate 20 pro is amazing and the triple lens system at the back is just DOPE.
DickDokster said:
I am an Note 9 user.
But I agree that Mate 20 pro is amazing and the triple lens system at the back is just DOPE.
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Getting the beast soon
Mate 20X
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rowihel2012 said:
Getting the beast soon
Mate 20X
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Congrats Man:good:
Share your thoughts after using the device.
I'm satisfyied with results even coming from a pixel 2 xl with night sight. Note 9 has better overall results and more realistic photos.
DickDokster said:
I am an Note 9 user.
But I agree that Mate 20 pro is amazing and the triple lens system at the back is just DOPE.
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Thank you very much!
It seems that you know much about gadgets for taking pictures, can you advise me on any really excellent camera ? What manufacturer or maybe a particular model may be the best one to buy?
Does the Note 9 still have a weird orange tint in really low light shots?
In my experience low light pic are pretty good, not as great as a night sight but decent
huitrWER said:
Thank you very much!
It seems that you know much about gadgets for taking pictures, can you advise me on any really excellent camera ? What manufacturer or maybe a particular model may be the best one to buy?
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I would say that I am not that good with cameras yes I have an Canon EOS 80D which is old camera an it doesn't support 4K. The thing is currently now in market there is a lot of options(Cameras).
This blogs can help you in comparing the brands and different models they offer.
Check this
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-camera
https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-camera
Cristiano Matos said:
I'm satisfyied with results even coming from a pixel 2 xl with night sight. Note 9 has better overall results and more realistic photos.
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It's more about personal preference. Note 9 wins in pure hardware (both vs pixel 2 and pixel 3), but google has a really impressive AI for the pictures processing. The thing is, processing can take you that far before it starts to show it's drawbacks. The note 9 just relies on strong hardware to extract the maximum possible without over-processing thus leading to a vastly different approach compared to google (and to some extend huawei too).
Lowlight performance can be improved with a working google camera modd. Check out this comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZSW6Y3FTC4
matlear said:
Starry night
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Nic pic I love shooting pics at night. Thanks for helping me make the decision to upgrade from the Note 8 to 9.
matlear said:
Starry night
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Is it for real a Note 9 photo? That's the exposure on this?
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Cristiano Matos said:
I'm satisfyied with results even coming from a pixel 2 xl with night sight. Note 9 has better overall results and more realistic photos.
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The noise amount on these is indistinguishable. Haven't been looking up for a new gadgets for a several years and looks like the future is now.
Which do I send back tomorrow!? I'm so torn.... The camera is defo better on the Pixel. Thats whats making it a tough call!
Did you come form the 2XL too? Thoughts...?
are you sure about "the camera is defo better on the Pixel" though.
Is battery important? is size important? price?
If you care about battery life and recharge speeds, keep the mate 20 pro
If not keep the pixel
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are you sure about "the camera is defo better on the Pixel" though.
Is battery important? is size important? price?
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Seems to be more motion blur with the M10P. Taking pictures of my kids is not a great experiance. Its also has that oil painting look in low light. Dynamic range seems less than the Pixel.
For taking photos of people indoors, the processing goes a bit strange. Hair for example becomes a continuous looking blob like a lego man. Skin texture is non existent. It would be great if Huawei could improve upon this. Landsape photos outside look great though!
This phone is billed as a great camera phone phone with all the different lenses, but the Pixel 2 still tops it.
Camera ain't everything though!
I have both: pixel 2 xl and pixel 3 xl
And i am moving to the mate 20 pro for :
1. Better battery.
2. Faster charging.
3. Dual sims.
4. Better screen and screen to body ratio.
5. I hate that pixel 2 xl does not have any software
customization as huawei do.
I will miss the camera for sure, but i think the other topics have more importance imo.
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I have both: pixel 2 xl and pixel 3 xl
And i am moving to the mate 20 pro for :
1. Better battery.
2. Faster charging.
3. Dual sims.
4. Better screen and screen to body ratio.
5. I hate that pixel 2 xl does not have any software
customization as huawei do.
I will miss the camera for sure, but i think the other topics have more importance imo.
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Some good points right there... Are you selling both Pixels?
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
mike2518 said:
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
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How so what's so better?
mike2518 said:
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
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Have you owned a pixel 2 or 3 and a mate 20 pro?
mwatson said:
Which do I send back tomorrow!? I'm so torn.... The camera is defo better on the Pixel. Thats whats making it a tough call!
Did you come form the 2XL too? Thoughts...?
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So the camera on a 2XL is better than a Mate 20 Pro? That surprises me. I'd read that nothing is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera.
When comparing the two, here's a consideration. With a Pixel, you will get the updates as soon as Google make them ready and you will get updates for a considerable time. Huawei, well, that's not quite the case. They can be slow.
The Kirin 980 performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 835.
I find the Huawei camera software significantly better than Google.
Do you like stock Android or customised?
white43 said:
So the camera on a 2XL is better than a Mate 20 Pro? That surprises me. I'd read that nothing is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera.
When comparing the two, here's a consideration. With a Pixel, you will get the updates as soon as Google make them ready and you will get updates for a considerable time. Huawei, well, that's not quite the case. They can be slow.
The Kirin 980 performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 835.
I find the Huawei camera software significantly better than Google.
Do you like stock Android or customised?
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Stock is nice, thorough I appreciate the additions made by emui. The camera software is more versatile than the pixel, though the pixel produces better images IMO. I might stick with the M20P, see how I get on through the year and move to the pixel 4 if I'm missing it.
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Stock is nice, thorough I appreciate the additions made by emui. The camera software is more versatile than the pixel, though the pixel produces better images IMO. I might stick with the M20P, see how I get on through the year and move to the pixel 4 if I'm missing it.
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I have the Pixel 3 and Mate 20 Pro right now, and honestly, only the selfie camera is better on the Pixel and that's only slightly. With a little editing they are almost the same. Pixel just adds contrast and destroys the blacks.
Honestly the dynamic range on the Mate blows the pixel away. The pixel loses all the detail in the shadows.
I would keep the Mate, the Pixel having a better selfie camera is not worth it.
I have both the 3XL and Mate 20 Pro and also just sold my Pixel 2 XL after a years good service, I'm still conflicted by the Mate 20 Pro, so many great features let down by one or two things that bug me.
I use Action Launcher so I'm not to worried about EMUI, I have also turned off all the Hi* features so they don't bug me.
Positives on the Mate 20 Pro:
- Battery and fast charge are immense
- Form factor is perfect, easier to hold then both the 2Xl and 3XL.
- Macro and Ultra wide cameras are great.
- Night mode on the whole is more accurate then my Pixel 3 XL, I find the Pixel to be amazing but very inaccurate i.e. ends up looking like daytime in a night scene. On the Mate20 Pro is produces the scene better generally.
- Call quality appears better
- Faster then the Pixel 3 XL, small but its definitely faster.
Only things I don't like about it are when taking pictures of my kids using portrait mode or using the selfie cam, everyone looks really pale to the point of looking ill. I also find it harder to get good results with the Mate 20 pro as there is a bigger delay on taking the shot when I press the button to take a pic. Usually the child has slightly moved and comes out blurred.
The Pixel 3 XL and 2 XL were a case of point and click and the results are generally better 9/10 when taking pics of my kids.
For objects and scenery they are closer but I find the Pixel 3 /2 XL have more accurate colours, I have turned off AI, beauty modes (as much as possible)
The fingerprint sensor has issues on the Mate 20 Pro, sometimes it works brilliantly, a slight smudge on the screen or sometimes with no noticeable marks on the screen it refuses to work. This is usually fine as I use face unlock for general unlock. It's mainly when I'm unlocking banking apps and I have to revert to pin.
I think the screen is also better on the Pixel 3XL, the Mate 20 pro is better then the Pixel 2Xl it replaced without a doubt. I have a BOE screen so don't have the Green edge issue.
My only other concern is how long we will get updates for once the P30 is launched.
Given they are all great devices shows how hard it is to pick between them.. Maybe Mate 20 Pro hardware with Pixel Android image and camera would be perfect...
was determined to buy the s10 lite but I saw some comparison videos on the camera and now I'm changing my mind. The photos look "washed out" compared to other phones in the same price range.
I thought about: xiaomi mi 10 lite, one plus nord, honor 20 pro, huawei p30.
Do you recommend me? (without curved edges)
THANK YOU!!!
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was determined to buy the s10 lite but I saw some comparison videos on the camera and now I'm changing my mind. The photos look "washed out" compared to other phones in the same price range.
I thought about: xiaomi mi 10 lite, one plus nord, honor 20 pro, huawei p30.
Do you recommend me? (without curved edges)
THANK YOU!!!
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S10lite has a great camera
I've previously owned Xiaomi, Huawei and OnePlus devices. All were good in their own way. However, truth be told, the stability, battery life, speed of the S10 Lite is quality, such as are Samsung products overall. I still have my Mi 8 device, which I use for work, it's ok and Miui 12 is cool, but battery life suffered. Huawei, well to be honest it is slightly like a lesser version of Xiaomi, and as Honor is based upon Huawei there are close similarities. OnePlus make good phones. I haven't had the Nord but out of the 2 I'd still lean towards the S10.
I was always someone who liked rooting my device, playing around with kernels etc. You cannot do this with the S10. But, for me, this one time I'm stopped doing it from a practical sense (i.e. it is way too much effort!) I honestly do not miss it! Camera is good, I can still side load everything I want, good storage, great battery life, what's not to like?
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what's not to like?
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Green tint
It is not critical, but still...
Telehubis said:
Green tint
It is not critical, but still...
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Let's not forget that the phone is medium high class and not everything can be perfect.
So i have Mi 10 for like 2 months and so far i am so disappointed from it. Mainly from camera which is not as good as i expected (in my opinion Mi 9 which i had before had much better camera and overall results from all 3 sensors) miui 12 is terrible and only good thing i can see on my Mi 10 is battery, 90Hz amoled display and maybe sound. I drop Mi 9 beacuse of super good offer on Mi 10 and i thougth it will be great but its not. Couple days ago i bought for my girlfriend POCO X3 and when i see what that phone can do for fraction of price of my Mi 10. I mean display is not amoled but panel is look so good and 120Hz si awesone, battery life is exellent and camera in my opinion is almost the same as Mi 10 wich for the price of POCO X3 its just hilarious. So i am thinking last couple days to drop Mi 10 and get POCO X3 because its just much better value.. I am crazy?!
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
krepsz said:
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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I dont using xml. config, just the pure Parrot43 v5.
Incat said:
I could probably list a dozen things that I think the mi10 does better then the x3, but at the end of the day it's you that has to use the phone, so if you prefer the latter then what does it matter what anyone else thinks or says.?
If you think Miui 12 is terrible though, what are you going to use on the x3.?
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Well good point i guess. I am just pissed off about those cameras...
The camera works quite well when using Gcam 7.3.018 Urnyx05
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i only now want android 11. it takes a long time
You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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No this camera is far from excelent, really far.
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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Not my point at all! I said MIUI doesn't feel like the original rom the phone came with, which means: it has alot of problems, alot of lags, animation stuttering and so on! The hardware might be good but the software totally kills the experience for me. As for tryingcustom roms, I am currently on a custom rom, but those still have some issues. Also when I buy a phone I expect it to work all good out of the box: hardware and software. And for xiaomi this is the first premium flagship I have tried that the hardware feels like a flagship but the phone feels like my old redmi note 5(last non flagship device I had)
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
Olmaik said:
Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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This!!!! IT is no way near a real bokeh, it is the worst bokeh I have ever seen!
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Cameras suck man, suck big time. My old pixel 2 has a way wayy better camera(which is a 3year old device). And even though I use gcam, sometimes that is not stable, and whats the point of a 700$ phone if alot of stuff is not stable and keeps lagging?
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Well for that real optical bokeh.. Here is link for two shots. Same conditions, no filtr, just point focus and shoot. iPhone XS vs Mi 10.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=122xjPkdP4Y54M4Cg5ziLhHkTYP5_8nv4
iPhone did much better job with bokeh then Mi 10 did.