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Huawei photo quality vs. Samsung's flagship photo quality
Hello XDA Huawei users,
Is there a Huawei phone that makes better photos than Samsung flagship devices like S8/S8+/Note8 ?
If yes could You tell me the model name?
Haven't you seen any photos of p9, mate 9 and mate 10 series??
It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
madphone said:
It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
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Do you mean that Google Pixel phones make better photos than Mate and S8/Note8 ?
androidbadboy said:
Do you mean that Google Pixel phones make better photos than Mate and S8/Note8 ?
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
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It is hard to take bad pictures with the pixels using auto mode, auto focus?
Bromsoket said:
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Thanks for your input!
Does it mean that Samsung S8/S8+/Note8 will NOT make better pics than Huawei and Google Pixel 2?
Depends on you personal preference.
Me personally I never liked Samsung camera's
Of those 3 I will rank mate 10 first not because it has the highest quality (it's not bad in any way) but because it is the most "real camera" like in terms of controls and user experience.
Pixel 2 is great but lacks control..
And the portrait mode, seems like most "photographers" don't know the difference between out of focus and bokeh...
None of the are perfect but Note 8's portrait/bokeh look horrible and fake.
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I don't know about Samsung flagships but although I like my Mate 10 Pro a lot the camera disappoints me. If you like .. see this:
https://goo.gl/BFKuwn
Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
androidbadboy said:
Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
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In my opinion the regular Mate 10 is the best as it still uses 16:9, has the headphone jack, and the front fingerprint sensor for easy unlocking when sitting on your desk at work, plus no worries about any burn in because it uses an LCD panel (which I feel is better than Amoled). Of course it really depends on what you like and/or need! Other than these obvious differences everything else is the same...I think!
I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
elviss0812345 said:
I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
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Well, You must consider that Your son maybe black.
So which one makes better photos? Cause I'm getting the feeling that you'e not sure
And relax, Your son is the most important person in the world, not a phone.
Why 16:9 is better in Your (all XDA users) opinon? Or isnt?
Mate 10 regular better than Mate 10 Pro? How come?
Been watching YouTube videos on this device since it was first announced. Looks like a fantastic device, except for the camera. The pictures taken by the 8X and posted on YouTube have been some of the worst detailed and softest/lifeless pictures I have seen from a phone is a LONG TIME. Is it REALLY that bad? It would seem that they had to skimp on something for $250ish and it looks like the cameras got hit the hardest. Oh, one other thing... I spent some time on Amazon India reading through like 800 reviews of the 8X there, and the majority of them listed the cameras as the weakest aspect of the Honor 8X. I'm in the USA waiting for the 8X to be released here, but I may need to give this one a pass. Thoughts?
Not trash but Depends on your taste
Honor 8x have 20+2 mp camera (decent)
Image quality from them have lots of details so don't worry about this
This camera boost the colours specially (red,blue,green)
Which produces artificial like image if you compare from other device from same price range(kinda pre filtered for insta and fb) so good for some bad for some
Honor will fix camera issue bya an ota so don't worry about that
camera is Good for this price range
I think the camera is good in good light. In low light it struggles a bit. Also helps to turn off AI which tends to saturate photos and make them look unreal.
Well, from my experience camera is fine. Especially for this price range. Some websites are maybe criticizing it too much, but for a phone in this price range, it is actually pretty good.
I have switched from P9 lite (well, I still use it as my work phone, but that's beside the point, 8x is my daily driver now) and it definitely feels like an upgrade, camera-wise. Images are sharp, colors are ok, amount of detail is higher compared to p9 lite. Dynamic range is fine - again, for this price point, but it definitely feels better than on p9 lite. HDR works wonders, night mode is pretty darn awesome. If you are into fake bokeh, object detection is actually decent. And pictures are not noisy during the day, indoors they tend to get a bit noisy, but it is nothing deal-breaking for me, and as I mentioned, if You have some patience for night mode, it really makes very good pictures.
In my opinion, you should keep AI off and You will get much better pictures.
Anyway, @xphyle1971 - if You want me to send You some samples, I'd be glad to - just let me know if You want them mailed or attached somewhere.
Also, this is a bit besides the topic, but 8x should get android pie in q1 2019, so that might be something to consider when getting it.
Oh, and battery life is awesome.
Camera is good can get some fantastic results with right conditions and light Gcam as well works well with nice picture results
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What Gcam Version do you use ?
Which do I send back tomorrow!? I'm so torn.... The camera is defo better on the Pixel. Thats whats making it a tough call!
Did you come form the 2XL too? Thoughts...?
are you sure about "the camera is defo better on the Pixel" though.
Is battery important? is size important? price?
If you care about battery life and recharge speeds, keep the mate 20 pro
If not keep the pixel
charliebigpot said:
are you sure about "the camera is defo better on the Pixel" though.
Is battery important? is size important? price?
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Seems to be more motion blur with the M10P. Taking pictures of my kids is not a great experiance. Its also has that oil painting look in low light. Dynamic range seems less than the Pixel.
For taking photos of people indoors, the processing goes a bit strange. Hair for example becomes a continuous looking blob like a lego man. Skin texture is non existent. It would be great if Huawei could improve upon this. Landsape photos outside look great though!
This phone is billed as a great camera phone phone with all the different lenses, but the Pixel 2 still tops it.
Camera ain't everything though!
I have both: pixel 2 xl and pixel 3 xl
And i am moving to the mate 20 pro for :
1. Better battery.
2. Faster charging.
3. Dual sims.
4. Better screen and screen to body ratio.
5. I hate that pixel 2 xl does not have any software
customization as huawei do.
I will miss the camera for sure, but i think the other topics have more importance imo.
Eiad Ajam said:
I have both: pixel 2 xl and pixel 3 xl
And i am moving to the mate 20 pro for :
1. Better battery.
2. Faster charging.
3. Dual sims.
4. Better screen and screen to body ratio.
5. I hate that pixel 2 xl does not have any software
customization as huawei do.
I will miss the camera for sure, but i think the other topics have more importance imo.
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Some good points right there... Are you selling both Pixels?
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
mike2518 said:
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
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How so what's so better?
mike2518 said:
This must be a joke cause the pixel 2 or 3 doesn't even come close to the mate in any way
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Have you owned a pixel 2 or 3 and a mate 20 pro?
mwatson said:
Which do I send back tomorrow!? I'm so torn.... The camera is defo better on the Pixel. Thats whats making it a tough call!
Did you come form the 2XL too? Thoughts...?
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So the camera on a 2XL is better than a Mate 20 Pro? That surprises me. I'd read that nothing is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera.
When comparing the two, here's a consideration. With a Pixel, you will get the updates as soon as Google make them ready and you will get updates for a considerable time. Huawei, well, that's not quite the case. They can be slow.
The Kirin 980 performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 835.
I find the Huawei camera software significantly better than Google.
Do you like stock Android or customised?
white43 said:
So the camera on a 2XL is better than a Mate 20 Pro? That surprises me. I'd read that nothing is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera.
When comparing the two, here's a consideration. With a Pixel, you will get the updates as soon as Google make them ready and you will get updates for a considerable time. Huawei, well, that's not quite the case. They can be slow.
The Kirin 980 performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 835.
I find the Huawei camera software significantly better than Google.
Do you like stock Android or customised?
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Stock is nice, thorough I appreciate the additions made by emui. The camera software is more versatile than the pixel, though the pixel produces better images IMO. I might stick with the M20P, see how I get on through the year and move to the pixel 4 if I'm missing it.
mwatson said:
Stock is nice, thorough I appreciate the additions made by emui. The camera software is more versatile than the pixel, though the pixel produces better images IMO. I might stick with the M20P, see how I get on through the year and move to the pixel 4 if I'm missing it.
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I have the Pixel 3 and Mate 20 Pro right now, and honestly, only the selfie camera is better on the Pixel and that's only slightly. With a little editing they are almost the same. Pixel just adds contrast and destroys the blacks.
Honestly the dynamic range on the Mate blows the pixel away. The pixel loses all the detail in the shadows.
I would keep the Mate, the Pixel having a better selfie camera is not worth it.
I have both the 3XL and Mate 20 Pro and also just sold my Pixel 2 XL after a years good service, I'm still conflicted by the Mate 20 Pro, so many great features let down by one or two things that bug me.
I use Action Launcher so I'm not to worried about EMUI, I have also turned off all the Hi* features so they don't bug me.
Positives on the Mate 20 Pro:
- Battery and fast charge are immense
- Form factor is perfect, easier to hold then both the 2Xl and 3XL.
- Macro and Ultra wide cameras are great.
- Night mode on the whole is more accurate then my Pixel 3 XL, I find the Pixel to be amazing but very inaccurate i.e. ends up looking like daytime in a night scene. On the Mate20 Pro is produces the scene better generally.
- Call quality appears better
- Faster then the Pixel 3 XL, small but its definitely faster.
Only things I don't like about it are when taking pictures of my kids using portrait mode or using the selfie cam, everyone looks really pale to the point of looking ill. I also find it harder to get good results with the Mate 20 pro as there is a bigger delay on taking the shot when I press the button to take a pic. Usually the child has slightly moved and comes out blurred.
The Pixel 3 XL and 2 XL were a case of point and click and the results are generally better 9/10 when taking pics of my kids.
For objects and scenery they are closer but I find the Pixel 3 /2 XL have more accurate colours, I have turned off AI, beauty modes (as much as possible)
The fingerprint sensor has issues on the Mate 20 Pro, sometimes it works brilliantly, a slight smudge on the screen or sometimes with no noticeable marks on the screen it refuses to work. This is usually fine as I use face unlock for general unlock. It's mainly when I'm unlocking banking apps and I have to revert to pin.
I think the screen is also better on the Pixel 3XL, the Mate 20 pro is better then the Pixel 2Xl it replaced without a doubt. I have a BOE screen so don't have the Green edge issue.
My only other concern is how long we will get updates for once the P30 is launched.
Given they are all great devices shows how hard it is to pick between them.. Maybe Mate 20 Pro hardware with Pixel Android image and camera would be perfect...
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
Thanks for your opinions, surely it'll give an idea to users.
I was thinking of doing the same.Selling mi8 and buying mi9t pro or OnePlus 7.I m closer to OnePlus now.Thanks.
Can i ask how much have you bought mi8 128? (Used i believe).
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200€ used, mint condition, in Croatia.
My friend has op7p, it is too big and heavy for me, and curved screen is inconvenience.
CROrION said:
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
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Wow, thanks for your input. I was about to sell mine for the same price here in BiH, but I was concerned about the size and handling...and I was counting on much better battery.
Maybe non pro model is better choise in therms of battery life...
CROrION said:
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
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can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
Good, to know that. Now i was think about , that i sell my MI8 256gb and i buy the MI9T PRO 128gb.So, i stay by MI8. Thx
If anyone needs a cheaper phone, or maybe wanting to a buy a phone to give as a gift.
I bought my 15 yr old daughter a Xiaomi A3 and I must say that I am really impressed with its speed, excellent camera, and overall beauty. Plus it comes with Android One, and she loves it. no doubt that it is perfect for a teenager, parent, wife or girlfriend and with its 665 processor its faster than I expected.
Finally the screen resolution may only be 720P. However the Amoled panels makes the lower PPI, hardly noticeable, and the colors are much better when comparing the A3 panel to 1080 LCD panels.
Remember 1 thing mi 9T pro its still new device that need some time to be stable of any rom also how they got same sot? Mi 9 t pro got 4k mah and snap 855 its kinda got reduced consumption of battery so maybe you dint try it much? I can agree about OIS at camera point.
Flash-User said:
can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
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Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
hkwildboy said:
Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
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Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
Gcam Apk
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
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Can you specify which version/modder of Gcam you use on Mi8?
Thank you.
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
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Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
hkwildboy said:
Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
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Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
Flash-User said:
Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
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Hi,
what gcam port do you use ? can you recommend on settings ?
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what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
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I also want to know this! Because well, it's expected for the facial unlock to work worse than in the Mi8 because the Mi8 has a 3d face sensor and infrared light and all those dedicated hardware.. that's why the notch is so wide.
Help me to make a decision what phone I should buy for my wife.
I like both phones and read and have seen a lot of reviews on the net and YouTube. Both phones looks great and have great performance even the camera looks stunning on both phones.
But I really don't know what phone to choose and what you can recommend me.
Which phone have the best performance, camera and battery.
Thanks in advance.
My wife love to take a lot of photos!
What will your wife appreciate more, a better camera system and a better battery or the 90 Hz display and a headphone jack?
Even I've thinking about this in regards to my Mate 20 Pro, but I think I'll keep this one even though I love the 90hz
Also thinking about it while i have the Mate 20 pro and can still return it..
To consider as well is IP rating, wireless charging and slightly more compact format for the late 20 pro (if you can call 6.4' compact)
think the mate 20 pro the better choice for non tech user, EMUI should be more friendly and the camera should produce better results for point and shoot..
For XDA people, if I was sure I could unlock the bootloader on the realme I would jump