Hi all. I've been looking for this issue around the net and haven't found anything.
I've sent 1 sms with 175 letters (it's not much) and the phone divided it in 4 and charged me for 4 sms's. I have the maximum size for messages set on 300k (I guess it means 300 letters or dots or whatever).
Does anyone gets this in their HERO?
Anyone has a solution?
Thanks in advance
sms messages contain a maximum of 160 characters including spaces, if you sent 175 characters including spaces you would have been charged for 2 sms messages.
The 300k limit you are talking about is for mms messages. If you sent the sms as a mms then the charges you would incur would be dependant on your provider.
You have to pick either sms or mms depending on what your sending the software will not guess for you.
Also if you sent an SMS containing any 'special' characters it would have been sent in Unicode which in this case each character will occupy 2 bytes. I can see how you ended up with 4 messages.
by your user name, i suppose your Polish? Using Polish characters (ąęółńżź) uses up more "sms space" just like TheBrit wrote.
I didn't use any special characters, only letters, dots, spaces and comas. I'm Portuguese, so I use regular characters.
I would accept to be charged for 2 sms´s, but 4?? it's ridiculous.
This must be some kind of a bug, this has happened before, but only now I realised something was wrong.
Thanks for the replies.
I have a similar problem... when I type normal sentences, the letter-count is ok.. but when I type a letter that you can select when holding a letter (e.g. you hold the letter "o" and you select ô) the message-count jumps automatically to 2 or 3... it's really annoying... is this also a bug?
No, it is correct behaviour if you are using a character that isn't represented in the 8-bit ASCII character set. As has been previously mentioned, unicode characters effectively take up more "space" than a regular character - the SMS 160 character limit is based on using 8-bit characters.
Regards,
Dave
that's pretty sh**y
thanks anyway
I found out that the limit in my Hero is 145 characters, but if I type only 3 special characters like é â ç, the limit drops to 63 characters in 1 sms. Just by typing 3 letters like those (ê ç ô) I lose 82 characters. Could this be a network provider limitation for sms's when using non 8-bit ASCII characters? Or is it the phone?
Anyway, this very annoying we have to type incorrectly to be able to send a bigger sms.
zbrinski said:
I found out that the limit in my Hero is 145 characters, but if I type only 3 special characters like é â ç, the limit drops to 63 characters in 1 sms. Just by typing 3 letters like those (ê ç ô) I lose 82 characters. Could this be a network provider limitation for sms's when using non 8-bit ASCII characters? Or is it the phone?
Anyway, this very annoying we have to type incorrectly to be able to send a bigger sms.
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Because they are non-ascii characters the whole message has to be in unicode. Unicode can have characters up to 8 bytes to cope with things like chinese or japanese charcters. When using the extra characters used in some european languages the character set uses all 2 byte characters - even for 'normal' ascii chacters. The 2 byte charcter set is part of Unicode and is known as UTF-16. Normal ascii is also known as UTF-8.
This is not your phone's fault or even the network's fault. It's just the way things are. Read about it here.
In my hero i dont see the number of characters during I write the SMS!!!
Why? Where is the settings to show it??
Bye
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Because they are non-ascii characters the whole message has to be in unicode. Unicode can have characters up to 8 bytes to cope with things like chinese or japanese charcters. When using the extra characters used in some european languages the character set uses all 2 byte characters - even for 'normal' ascii chacters. The 2 byte charcter set is part of Unicode and is known as UTF-16. Normal ascii is also known as UTF-8.
This is not your phone's fault or even the network's fault. It's just the way things are. Read about it here.
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No, it's not. With other terminals this isn't happening. It's a bug in Android code and it's supposed to be fixed in donut. Let's see when the fix arrives to the Hero.
More info here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2719
That is *not* the same issue! Related in a way, yes, but otherwise different.
The point that "TheBrit" and others are making is that use of a unicode character set effectively means each SMS is going to be less than 160 characters. The fact that there is a bug in Android when a long SMS message is split is a different issue.
Regards,
Dave
I think it's the same issue.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2600
This one is merged with issue 2719. Two different problems only one Android bug.The SMS application does not manage extended characters (accented chars, ñ
char and others) correctly. A extended character takes more space than a
normal character. Don't know how other handsets do this, but you can use extended characters and be within 160 chars! No need for unicode eating the chars.
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In my hero i dont see the number of characters during I write the SMS!!!
Why? Where is the settings to show it??
Bye
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The phone only shows the number of characters left, when you are near the limit of the number of characters the message has , it shows the count of the last 10 characters to make a total of 145.
If you pass the 145 ch it will always show the the character counter in the up right corner of the typing box.(but if you type in landscape mode, it doesn't show the count)
I recently flashed an AOSP rom, Rage 1.6 to be exact, and I noticed that when I text them ladies, messages over 160 characters/letters get split up into multiple text. So eventually the receiver gets up to 3 separate texts for 1 message. Do all aosp roms do this?
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I recently flashed an AOSP rom, Rage 1.6 to be exact, and I noticed that when I text them ladies, messages over 160 characters/letters get split up into multiple text. So eventually the receiver gets up to 3 separate texts for 1 message. Do all aosp roms do this?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Message_Service
The maximum length of any SMS message is 160 characters. If you send one longer, the recipient always receives the messages split up.. its just a matter of whether or not their SMS client (or yours for that matter) displays them as a single message, or displays them broken up into the individual messages.
While some SMS clients do recognize multiple messages to be parts of a single longer message and display it as such, others don't.
For example, I don't use the stock SMS client for Android. I only use Google Voice, and it always displays longer messages as one coherent message, even though the recipient's client may display 3 separate incomplete messages.
Using the stock messaging app on Adrenaline 2.0, I texted someone a lengthy message (over 160 characters) and they received it as a whole message. Then when I flashed an AOSP rom, using also the stock messaging app, I texted the same person. It started breaking up the text into multiple messages. I just tried using Handcent SMS and now that person is receiving one long text instead of multiple.
So basically it's the apps fault hu? I just wish there was a setting where I could change it.
Some apps provide the ability to send longer messages (>160 char) as MMS instead of SMS. I couldn't guess what the default setting is, but I know handcent has that ability (I've used handcent since I had my original Moto Droid).
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Using the stock messaging app on Adrenaline 2.0, I texted someone a lengthy message (over 160 characters) and they received it as a whole message. Then when I flashed an AOSP rom, using also the stock messaging app, I texted the same person. It started breaking up the text into multiple messages. I just tried using Handcent SMS and now that person is receiving one long text instead of multiple.
So basically it's the apps fault hu? I just wish there was a setting where I could change it.
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theascended said:
Some apps provide the ability to send longer messages (>160 char) as MMS instead of SMS. I couldn't guess what the default setting is, but I know handcent has that ability (I've used handcent since I had my original Moto Droid).
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yep sense based roms will convert an sms to mms seamlessly so you dont see the splits. if you want to make it longer in aosp just send an mms.
More than 160 characters in a text? Dude...send an email at that point.
Have any of you been able to have your note2 send a text MSG larger than 160 characters. I can't. Nor do I see an option to fix. Big text messages just fail to send.
In my other phones the MSG would simply be broken up and sent as two, or three separate 160 character messages.
Called Verizon rep., they say google is aware of the issue and a fix would included in next update. Simple work arounds, use different messaging app or limit text to under 160 characters.
Just wondering if others are experiencing this, is it an issue on other note variants?
I have had no problem on mine sending texts over 160 characters. It does split it in to seperate texts and the character amount counts backwards with a slash and the number of texts it will send. So if I send 181 character text it will show like this 139/2. Meaning I have 139 characters left until it switches to the third message. I use the stock messeging app. I hate to say try a hard reset and see if that clears the issue. Not sure why you can only send one text at a time. I am rooted stock with the all app multi window working. And I have the vzw note 2 so your issue sounds strange to me.
I'm rooted as well. Funny enough it's working now. It didn't work this morning. Yes I had good signal strength, strange
I tested again. If a SMS message with more than 160 characters does go thru for me, the person receiving the message recieves the 2nd half first.
Is this just my note2.
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I am bothered with the 160 sms character limit on my P768 perhaps somebody could figure out how to make it unlimitted. by the way my phone is already rooted and downgraded from 10d to 10a
It is the nature of SMS standard, it limited to 160 characters per message.
SMS means "Short Message System".
you need write something "short"
that is point!
Longer than 160 characters will split to multiple messages.
or use email to send long message
Lolz. Are you confused with SMS and Email? No matter you write any length SMS, yr mobile operator will split it into many SMS and will charge for each 160 chars SMS. Some phones allow longer SMS but they are split and charged for each slice.
Sent from my LG-P765 using xda app-developers app
Anyone know how to stop all messages over 160 characters converting to picture message, its costing me a fortune, many thanks guys