Android Oreo does not support background processes anymore ? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since June 2017 I have a Huawei Mate 9, originally with Nougat. I noticed that some apps do not run properly when the display is off, but under Oreo it is even worse. Apps like
* ssh daemons
* wifi auto on/off
* Tasker schedules
which should run in the background do usually not run when the screen is off. I have disabled all possible battery optimization options in the Android settings and checked 'keep awake' or 'run when screen is locked' in the individual apps, but in all cases the services only run when the screen is on or locked a few seconds ago.
It appear that you have to keep the screen on in order to run these apps which they call 'battery saving' while it is actually extra battery consumption as the screen is the greatest battery usage hog.
Is there a way to keep such apps running in the background with the screen off ?

That, is due to the battery saving code that oem is known for.

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Tips or App to optimize Battery Life?

Hello, I have been searching the forums for any tips or apps people use to get the most battery life out of their HTC One and couldn't find what I was looking for. I'm not complaining too much since I am getting around 4 hours of screen time per day. But was just wondering if anyone used any apps or has a tip that they used that saw boost in saving battery usage. Thanks
juice defender
Juice Defender, Green Power, OR BatteryGuru - Made specifically from Qualcomm for Qualcomm Snapdragon processors! Tried it on my Atrix HD and it did some impressive work at saving battery.
Never used Juice Defender personally, but I did use Green Power before on my Note I, and it was great. Saved me a ton of battery.
Currently using BatteryGuru atm for the One though.
Most important thing we could get is the ability to dial down the auto brightness, it's way too bright
I use startup manager, to have non-system apps not start at boot(saves alot of battery) I also use quad-core cpu sleeper(paid) worth it "when screen is off drops to one core, setcpu with profile to drop my max frequency to 1000 when screen is off and to full when screen is on, and finally use the stock htc power saver to only kill mobile date when off, can get 2 days on idle use and about 3/4 day regular use unless playing really graphic games
ps also using team seven kernel
powersaver is all this phone needs imho
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powersaver is all this phone needs imho
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Agreed!
Im glad to see this thread, I was thinking about starting one like this. For the past 2 days my ONE is draining battery fast, Im at 33% right now after an overnight charge, been using it one and off all day. Im a bit lost. I just installed battery guru. Is there a good app to show where your battery usage is going? per app or process? I had a decent iPhone app for this, Im searching the Play Store now.
thanks
G Sam battery monitor is what I use
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Greenify to hibernate all the apps causing wakelocks
Mr.s ookipy
Always keep power saver on.
I am going to give Batteryguru a try. I don't know if I am just not using Greenify right, but I don't see much difference.
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I am going to give Batteryguru a try. I don't know if I am just not using Greenify right, but I don't see much difference.
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Same here. If anything I feel like greenify drains more battery.
I used Carat to identify the battery drainers. Then Froze/disabled a few apps.
The real battery drainer is how much I love this freaking phone!
I do miss the task manager from my GS3 though. Wish there was a way to free RAM like it used to have.
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curious... how long does it take you guys to charge your htc ones? and does it ever heat up? mine seems to be running warm from just charging.. is this normal?
DS battery saver - keeps your phone in deep sleep, most of android's battery woes come from apps randomly waking up the device to do their sync and whatnot. By default will wake the device up on a regular schedule and do a forced sync I think. Has options for whitelists so the apps you trust can still do what they want when they want. I've heard juice defender is a good one of this too, though I prefer DS battery saver for its simplicity.
Greenify - Takes a more iOS approach to apps in background. ie. it freezes them. This prevents them from consuming precious mAh
Disable location reporting (or GPS alltogether) in maps.
Disable sync for the weather/stock/news stuff in settings
Get a kernel that supports Undervolting (I prefer elementalX) and use a utility like system tuner pro to UV the everloving **** out of it. Our qualcomm chips seem to handle this particularly well.
That's all I can think of.
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choboii said:
Same here. If anything I feel like greenify drains more battery.
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Greenify will only do something if the app you put onto its list was being a problem in the first place really. I suppose it works best with carat. Use the latter to identify hog apps and then greenify to deliver sweet battery saving justice to them (or uninstall them). Most android apps (at least for me) seem to be pretty good with not wrecking my battery in the background though, just sit there and wait for me to call on them again like a good app should.
Am i the only one that read the manual? Pg. 37
Getting the battery to last longer
How long the battery can last before it needs recharging depends on how you use
HTC One. HTC One power management helps to increase battery life.
In times when you need to extend the battery life more, try out some of these tips:
Check your battery usage
Monitoring your battery usage helps you identify what's using the most power so you
can choose what to do about it. For details, see Checking battery usage on page 37.
Manage your connections
§ Turn off wireless connections you're not using.
To turn on or off connections such as mobile data, Wi‑Fi, or Bluetooth, go to
Settings and tap their On/Off switches.
§ Turn GPS on only when a precise location is needed.
To prevent some apps from using GPS in the background, keep the GPS
satellites setting off. Turn it on only when you need your precise location while
using navigation or location-based apps. Go to Settings and tap Location to
turn this setting on or off.
Manage your display
Lowering the brightness, letting the display sleep when not in use, and keeping it
simple helps save battery power.
§ Use automatic brightness (the default), or manually lower the brightness.
§ Set the screen timeout to a shorter time.
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§ Don't use a live wallpaper for your Home screen. Animation effects are nice to
show off to other people but they drain your battery.
Changing your wallpaper to a plain, black background can also help a little. The
less color is displayed, the less battery is used.
§ Set the web browser to auto dim the screen while webpages load. Open the
Internet app, and then tap > Settings > Accessibility > Dim screen during
page loading.
For more details, see Settings and security on page 166 and Personalizing on page
56.
Manage your apps
§ Install the latest software and application updates. Updates sometimes include
battery performance improvements.
§ Uninstall or disable apps that you never use.
Many apps run processes or sync data in the background even when you're not
using them. If there are apps that you don't need anymore, uninstall them.
If an app came preloaded and can't be uninstalled, disabling the app can still
prevent it from continuously running or syncing data. In Settings > Apps, swipe
to the All tab, tap the app, and then tap Disable.
Limit background data and sync
Background data and sync can use a lot of battery power if you have many apps
syncing data in the background. It’s recommended not to let apps sync data too
often. Determine which apps can be set with longer sync times, or sync manually.
§ In Settings, tap Accounts & sync and check what types of data are being synced
in your online accounts. When the battery is starting to run low, temporarily
disable syncing some data.
§ If you have many email accounts, consider prolonging the sync time of some
accounts.
In the Mail app, select an account, tap > Settings > Sync, Send & Receive, and
then adjust the settings under Sync schedule.
§ When you’re not traveling from one place to another, sync weather updates of
only your current location, rather than in all of your named cities. Open the
Weather app, and then tap > Edit to remove unneeded cities.
§ Choose widgets wisely.
Some widgets constantly sync data. Consider removing the ones that are not
important from your Home screen.
§ In Play Store, tap > Settings, and then clear Auto-add widgets to avoid
automatically adding Home screen widgets whenever you've installed new apps.
Also clear Auto-update apps if you're fine with updating apps from Play Store
manually.
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Other tips
To squeeze in a little bit more battery power, try these tips:
§ Tone down the ringtone and media volume.
§ Minimize the use of vibration or sound feedback. In Settings, tap Sound and
choose which ones you don't need and can disable.
§ Check your apps’ settings as you may find more options to optimize the battery.
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Here's a really big tip I've found from trial and error... Turn off Google Location data, best wifi performance, and turn on power saver in settings. I have auto synchronize on, auto screen brightness, and other stuff and I'm getting 15+ hours with moderate usage with 32 percent left when I plug in at night and go to bed. That's also moving in and out of 4G and lte areas and using wifi where available
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thaks for the post,i've found the solution for a long time too
I don't believe in disabling everything a smartphone is supposed to be able to do. I'd just get a basic flip phone if that was the case.
I'm trying the snapdragon app atm
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Figure out how to save energy

I got this phone last week. It's beautiful and very fast. But as expected, the battery is terrible.
The normal energy saver doesn't do much for me. And the extreme energy saver is not something I'd like to use on a daily basis. What does the normal energy saver do?
Normal energy saving mode
Stop background data, unless connected to WIFI
Dim screen, unless brightness is set to manual
I even noticed that the S Health services (constantly checking for motion pedometer) is still on in power saving mode.
There are a lot of options on this phone that are convenient, but I'm not sure which ones are having a non-negligible impact on the battery. Maybe we can combine our knowledge and come up with a list. We can each personally choose which ones we can live without, and which ones we want/need. I'll start with the ones I am thinking of:
Possible energy consuming functions
Touch Sensitivity: For when wearing gloves. Is this just the way software interpretes data, or does this in fact require more power?
Air View[link]: Is this just the way software interpretes data, or does this in fact require more power?
Smart stay: Uses front camera, which requires power. Is the camera always on, or only in browser?
Smart pause: Uses front camera, which requires power. Is this always active? Every video? Only Samsung video player? Youtube?
Smart scroll [link]: Uses front camera, which requires power. Only in stock browser? Or all apps?
S Health: I personally like the pedometer. Makes me walk a bit extra. Those pedometers you get for free with your groceries work forever on a penlite battery. But the one on the phone, does it have dedicated hardware? Or does it prevent the phone from sleeping, monitoring gyro sensors permanently?
Multi-window: Probably uses multiple cores. Can you just keep this mode active even if you use a single screen? Or does this mode permanently require more power?
3G: Switching to 2G always requires less power. Is this setting gone in the ALPHA?
Quick setting switches (toggles)
Half those options have a quick setting on the backside of the notification screen. But the other half does not. Which is annoying. Do the "hidden" features not matter as much for power? Is there a way to add these "hidden" features to the quick setting screen?
Discuss.
I would say that everything extra uses more power.
I always use power saving with limit cpu usage option, and haven't noticed a performance drop even if gaming. I also have disabled many samsung bloatware apps that i don't use (basically everything ). And I also use Greenify apps to stop those bloatware apps which can't be disabled.
If I had root, I would also remove "wake up" and "keep wake" from Google play services, which is currently my biggest battery draining app/service.
Hey guys, i've tested the "Restrict background data" and it works really GOOD!
More specific, my device is using 450mah (or at least, this is the reading im getting).
So with "No restriction for the back data" & logging to a 3G network (UMTS) im loosing: 1% / 2hrs
With restrictions ON & logging to a 2.5G (EDGE) im loosing: 1% / 3.5hrs !!!
Mind that this measurement is in IDLE state (screen off).
I believe that this "Restrict background data" option is also been used by the system,
when the user is activating the "emergency mode".

Hibernate and aggressive doze

I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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1. Any app which is not greenified will run in the background once it is opened and then dismissed by the Home button. As far as the IM apps are concerned, the advice of the Dev is not to greenify them if you rely on them. However, some people have successfully greenified those IM apps which use GCM without issues but some others complain of delayed notifications. So it may be better not to greenify them if you rely on them. Of course they will consume more battery since they are running in the background.
2. If you want iPhone like behaviour, use shallow hibernation. Otherwise, the apps will start afresh.
3. It is better to add such apps to the white list.
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
realista87 said:
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
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Similar observation on battery savings. In most cases any power related benefits of aggressive doze are wiped out when the device wakes from its comma and performs a bunch of 'catch up' tasks. Such behavior can lead to lag immediately after wake which is a common complaint associated with aggressive doze. That said, aggressive doze may have other situational benefits...especially over longer durations. As always YMMV.
yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
realista87 said:
yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
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The sensor issue is device specific. I enable 'doze on the go' on all my devices and have yet to encounter the brightness glitch. However, I don't use the more aggressive sensor suppressions available in some apps. Note 'doze on the go' is enabled by default w/Android 7+.
After experimenting with countless apps/tools/techniques (ugh) my Android power management methodology has evolved to a 'lite touch' minimalist approach. I only take overt action when a specific drain can not be contained by other means. Greenify is the tool of choice with only a few bad actors in the explicit hibernation list. Android defaults handle everything else. My devices sleep soundly, behave predictably and score admirably low drain rates. App selection obviously plays into that. Big pigs like Facebook, Google everything and WhatsApp are not part of my portfolio as lighter alternatives exist. Good luck with your own adventures.

[DISCUSSION] Xiaomi Mi 9 battery life saving tips

Xiaomi Mi 9
Battery life saving tips
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Presenting a few tips based off personal experience that can help squeeze out those extra few minutes/hours of battery life from our device.​
Please note:
This is not a science and what works for some may not work for others. There are many factors involved in having good battery life and one person’s 1 SOT (screen on time) may mean completely different usage to another’s. For example, 1 hour of internet browsing will of course be less battery-intensive than 1 hour of processor-hungry gaming. So bear this in mind…
I am running the weekly Xiaomi.EU rom (9.4.11 at the time of posting) and so some of these settings/features may not be available on other versions of MIUI.
Some of the below will require. Some users prefer not (or can’t for whichever reason) to root and so you’ll just have to skip those if so.
Lastly, this thread is intended on being a work in progress and I welcome comments/suggestions/additions on the content. These are the settings that I adhere to which I believe, as well as most users, which are useful to aid battery life. Some tips may help out significantly, some may just offer a slight increase. Some may not even help at all and may just be placebo!
If something doesn’t work for you or you greatly disagree, let’s discuss it…​
Network settings + roaming
There are various settings which are known to help out with the notorious Cell Standby drain etc. such as:
Preferred network type (found either by Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks – Sim Card Settings - Preferred network type OR by dialling *#*#4636#*#* via your phone app). Users in the EU find that setting the network type to GSM/WCDMA/LTE or WCDMA/LTE (on both sims) can help stop the device look for network frequencies that it’ll never find, such as the TD-SCDMA etc. You can Google what frequencies your network provider uses which can help you decide.
VoLTE (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – there may be some debate over this one, but it can be said by having VoLTE enabled, whilst calls will be clearer, it will use 4G which is that bit more power hungry. Therefore some testing may be preferred if you’re a frequent caller. I personally have this on without and haven’t tested it fully, but I’m also not a huge caller.
Make calls using WLAN (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – by using WiFi for calls this should be more battery efficient than using mobile network data.
Data roaming (Settings – SIM cards & mobile networks) – I tend to keep Overseas data roaming off when I’m in my home country with the thought that it prevents the device from looking for networks it won’t find. As for National roaming, I have this kept off too normally as I don’t travel around much generally, so again to prevent it searching for alternative networks when it already has a strong signal.
System settings
Here we have several system settings/features that may be used on a day-to-day basis but may not be needed to be enabled at all times. Generally speaking, having something turned on all the time yields benefits for convenience but at the cost of battery life, as seen below.
Wifi / Bluetooth – both of these can be regarded as similar, in the sense that by having it enabled all the time it can connect automatically without your input. For example, if I leave my WiFi on when I leave my home it’ll automatically reconnect when I come back. Great! However, throughout the entire day if it doesn’t find a known network it will constantly be looking for one, draining battery. Not so great. Therefore if the convenience of not having to turn your WiFi on/off is your preference, then leave it enabled. Though if you know you’re not going to be connected to a network, then some manual control may be preferred. The same rules apply for Bluetooth devices.
WiFi & Bluetooth Scanning (Settings – Additional Settings – Privacy – Location – Scanning) – this can be a big drain I have found and is usually activated when you have High Accuracy location mode activated. Again, it comes with its benefits of providing higher accuracy, but with some battery cost. By disabling both WLAN and Bluetooth scanning, extra battery life can be saved. There are some apps I’ve found that force you to enabled High Accuracy mode, so just remember to switch off these scanning settings once again if so.
GPS & location accuracy (Settings – Additional Settings – Privacy – Location – Location mode) – I personally don’t mind just using Device only and keeping this on all the time. As whilst like with Bluetooth as mentioned above, if I know I’m not connect to my Bluetooth speaker for example, I at least like to open Google Maps and it find me straight away rather than toggling GPS on etc. Personal preference of course, as with all of these…
NFC (Settings – More) – as with WiFi and Bluetooth settings, if you’re not using it and don’t mind the manual toggling on/off as needed, then disable and do just that.
Hotspot (Settings – Portable Hotspot) – as above really, as this could be a big drainer if left on. Luckily there is a setting (Turn off hotspot automatically) which can help with this.
Display
A massively subjective aspect of using your device and only you know what you’d rather have and what you;d rather be looking at. Just as we know, a higher brightness level will result in high battery drain and the screen can be the biggest drainer of the all, so choose wisely if you’re trying to conserve some juice.
Screen brightness (Settings – Display – Brightness level) – I personally have it set to manually controlled, as I find the auto-brightness not to be very smooth, at around 20-30% indoors and perhaps up to 100% outdoors. I believe that manually controlling brightness preserves battery as it of course doesn’t use the ambient sensor and brightness remains the same, rather than jumping up and down reacting to light levels.
Ambient display (Settings – Display – Ambient display) – functionality of having the ‘always on display’, but at the cost of some battery life. There is the scheduling that you can use to help with this, but personal preference whether you want this on or not. I personally don’t, though at times I’m tempted to given the notification light, for me, isn’t that practical.
Contrast and colours (Settings – Display –Contrast & colours) – it can be said that Standard will be the most battery friendly, Increased Contrast drawing that bit more power due to the increase in contrast and Automatic Contrast using the most given it will use the sensor to optimise contrast based off available light. I personally have it on Increased contrast and I’m happy enough.
Double tap/raise to wake (Settings – Display – System) – with both of these sensors will be used for the convenience of tapping your screen and raising your phone in order to wake the device. This may be handy, but be mindful that such convenience will come at the cost of the sensors running using up some battery.
Themes
Another subjective aspect of your device is you can make it look. The suggestion here is for black themes to be applied where possible as on our screens black images use less power, as noted by Google. Though indeed black theming isn't for everyone so this suggestion, as with all of them, is purely up to you.
Night mode (Settings - Additional settings - Developer options - Night Mode) - enable night mode (Always on) to turn on MIUI system-wide black/dark theme, such as the dialer etc. *If you don't know how to activate Developer options, see here
Substratum and Swift Black - I highly recommend using this theme with the help of Substratum, though indeed only available to rooted users. Be sure to follow all the required steps to get Substratum working, such as installing the Magisk module etc.
Battery & Performance
Here are the various system battery settings which aim to preserve battery. Some perhaps more useful than others!
Adaptive Battery (Settings – Battery & Performance – Use Adaptive Battery) – this claims to limit battery for apps that you don’t use often, which I have enabled, though as will be seen below some further manual control can be done.
Battery saver / background app restrictions (Settings – Battery & Performance – App Battery Saver – Choose apps) – here you can select per-app a choice of 4 background restriction settings. It’s time consuming, but it’s worth going through each app (note: use the 3 dots in the top right corner to Show system apps) and choose the restriction settings, if any, to be applied. Generally speaking, if you want notifications to come through from it (like WhatsApp) or you don’t want it being shut down in the background (like Spotify) then choose No restrictions. If you’re not so bothered about it and want the system to lay down the law on battery saving, choose Restrict background activity. There are settings in-between, like Battery Saver and Restrict background apps, but I’ll leave you to play around with those ones.
Battery Optimization (Settings – Battery & Performance) - this has several options to save battery ranging from adjusting screen brightness, turning on Battery Saver, turning off GPS etc. This can be used however I prefer to manually configure the settings, so this will be up to you…
Scenes (Settings – Battery & Performance) – here is a ‘smart scene’ called sleep mode which apparently will detect when you’re sleeping and close down apps, restrict NFC etc. I personally have this disabled as again I manually adjust such settings
Auto-start (Settings – Manage apps - *select app* - Autostart) – another useful option is to go through each app you have and disable the autostart, which could provide additional battery savings preventing apps from starting up in the background
Debloating / removing system apps
Lots of system resources can be freed up which can result in added performance and battery life. See the extremely helpful thread by @SirTAVARES who created the Debloat Applications (No-Root) thread.
I personally have used the above guide to remove a lot of pre-included apps, even on the somewhat pre-debloated Xiaomi.eu rom. Without root you can use ADB to remove apps and they won't reappear when you update your rom. They will appear back if you perform a factory reset, as they are not fully uninstalled.
Furthermore, with root you can remove the app from not only the user area but system area too. Check out the thread for more info on this.
Lastly, apps like System App Remover Pro can fully uninstall system apps, with the option to use the Recycle Bin option should you wish to restore
Battery draining apps and alternatives
It can be said that some apps are notorious for being big battery drainers, such as the official Facebook app. I’m not a huge user of some of the other apps, like Snapchat, Twitter etc. and to be honest I generally favour webpage versions of some things for example I don’t have the Amazon shopping app, I just use the web page version, saved as a bookmark on my home screen. The general tip here is if you are going to use an app, be sure to go through its settings and adjust notification settings/frequency. For example, I do have the Sky News app however set it to not notify me of news, the same for Yahoo weather. So tweak accordingly. If you have some good alternative app suggestions then I’ll be happy to include some here, but for now I’ll just start with…
Facebook – I use Folio for Facebook & Messenger which is a nice lightweight 'Facebook wrapper' in that it uses the Facebook webpage as the basis for the app. It also has a functional messenger included so no need for a separate app.
Battery monitoring apps - apps like GSam Battery Monitor and BetterBatteryStats can be useful in detecting the high draining apps, so could be worth using one of those in an effort to identify them.
Magisk modules
There are many Magisk modules out there which aim to solve battery. I only use one, which I’ll list below, however please feel free to make suggestions for inclusion in this section. I know that there are some like Greenify, Amplify (when using Xposed) etc. that could squeeze even more juice out of the device!
Universal GMS Doze - helps put Google Play Services to sleep to save some battery. I use this with no issues/impact on Gmail, Play Store etc.
Other system settings
Sync (Settings – Sync) – as with per app settings for notifications/sync frequency etc. settings, it’s worth checking here to see what apps are auto-syncing data. You can turn them all off (I believe) via the Auto-sync data toggle, or check them out individually via this menu setting. *Note: I have removed Mi Cloud etc. and so I don’t have any of that running in the background, but that’s up to you.
Vibration (Settings – Sound & Vibration) – now this is likely a very small potential for some battery savings but still worth noting. You can adjust the Vibrate on tap option ranging from Off/Light/Medium/Strong, which I’m sure someone who has it set to Strong will be using that tiny bit more power than someone who has it set to Off. Your call….
Permissions (Settings - Permissions - Permissions) - it's worth going through here to monitor per-app what permissions are being used. Some apps may not like being prevented using certain things and it may break some functionality, but it's an extra method in reducing potential usage, such as hardware usage, for an extra saving. For example, an app may try and use GPS each and every time you open it or even try running it in the background. If you're willing to, preventing it from doing so may help save some battery.
Authorization & revocation (Settings - Additional settings - Authorization & revocation) - here you can revoke some access from apps. I have stuff like Security, Downloads, Battery and performance and Settings listed here, all of which I've revoked with no noticeable negative consequences.
Fingerprint icon (Settings - Lock screen & password - Manage fingerprints) - another very small tweak for a potential very small saving. The setting is Show fingerprint icon when the screen is off (which is present on Xiaomi.eu 9.4.11) and by disabling will prevent the icon showing. As the icon is displayed by the screen, by turning it off it'll naturally save the power it takes to light the screen up, which as you may have noticed, it lights up with the tiniest movement of the device! I keep it on as I like it and battery doesn't seem to be greatly impacted - but this thread is about squeezing as much juice as possible, right?!
Recents and 'Clear all' - not a system setting but a little thing to do, is to open up the Recents menu and use the 'X' button to close all running apps, or swipe individual to close certain ones from running in the background. Now, it is the case the apps stored in the RAM aren't necessarily using battery, but this is still useful to stop apps that are running and active. Definitely a debatable one, as the argument against doing this is that it then uses battery to reopen the app, so perhaps just test it out and see for yourself.
Last but not least....
Now this last little tip of mine is certainly one that can be debated, but I do it nonetheless...
Remember, none of this is advice as such, it's just what I do to keep myself sane in knowing/believing (philosophical debate here?!) that I've done all I can to maximise battery life.
What I like to do is when installing a rom have the phone charged to 100% before doing so. This originates from the days of believing that batteries need to be calibrated. There is definitely lots of research that states it may not be needed and a simple Google search can reveal research into this, but it's something I like to do anyway.
So essentially my method regarding this, needed or not, is:
Charge phone to 100%
Update rom
Use phone until it switches off at 0%
Charge phone fully to 100% without interruption
I'm not stating this is needed, it's just what I do. Take it or leave it! I'm aware that there is science behind not allowing phone batteries to die at 0% in order to prolong the life of it, but again, it's just what I do and it works for me.
Your call!
That is it for now. As mentioned I highly welcome your comments and suggestions for adding to this thread so please do let me know if any questions etc.I'm purposefully not showing my SOT/battery stats as they won't be useful to anyone - the above tips are here for that!​
Nice thread.. we need something like this. Thanks
marko94 said:
Nice thread.. we need something like this. Thanks
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Thanks, let's make it the best it can be
Great post. I haven't used substratum since my latest phone HTC one m8.. How did u installed it? With magisk?
Thanks for this extensive write up....
sakaki14567 said:
Great post. I haven't used substratum since my latest phone HTC one m8.. How did u installed it? With magisk?
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Yeah, substratum via play store and there's a magisk module too. Follow its guidance and let us know if any questions
Many thx for all this advice ?
Thank you. I would like to see more ideas and for this thread to get pinned and updated for more tips
hardtheory said:
Many thx for all this advice ?
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Ahmad Shawawreh said:
Thank you. I would like to see more ideas and for this thread to get pinned and updated for more tips
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Enjoy guys.
Let me know if you feel any difference and if any questions/additions
cd993 said:
Yeah, substratum via play store and there's a magisk module too. Follow its guidance and let us know if any questions
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Compiled everything, except the overlay of android system (it remains blue accent for some reason) phone overlay and system ui.
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
Tharitsaivet said:
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
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As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310 ?
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As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310
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From what you said, it's seem to be good for standby draining. As I normally use the phone when I have the break from 9am to 6pm only 2 hrs screen on, My current phone battery are lower than 40% in the evening.
Tharitsaivet said:
Thank you for your advice
With all you have done for your setting, Could you share us the battery performance please?
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hardtheory said:
As it as been say, the performance would be pretty different from different user (wifi, Bluetooth usage, nfc, ect) . I can give you an example, I done almost all optimization that has been given in the thread. I have Bluetooth activated all the time cause of my amazfit cor.
If I'm at home an only use wifi and if I often use my phone with 25 % brightness I can have 10 hours sot. But in real life use, with bad mobile network, usage of mobile data, phone call, screen at 100 % on outdoor use, I can only have 4h30 of sot.
Dépend of the usage and what you done with the phone. Personally, if I have a smartphone, it's to use use it. If you desactivaye all network, keep battery saver, keep your screen at 20 %, buy a Nokia 3310 ?
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Tharitsaivet said:
From what you said, it's seem to be good for standby draining. As I normally use the phone when I have the break from 9am to 6pm only 2 hrs screen on, My current phone battery are lower than 40% in the evening.
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OK guys here is some stats for you, see attached. Been off charge 21 hours with almost 5 hours SOT down to around 40%.
Going strong!
Hi, also running xiaomi.eu but can't find the screen of your last screenshoot. Mine under battery and performance looks completely difderent
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tbv2005 said:
Hi, also running xiaomi.eu but can't find the screen of your last screenshoot. Mine under battery and performance looks completely difderent
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I use Nova launcher which has that additional battery info screen
cd993 said:
I use Nova launcher which has that additional battery info screen
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I'm using Nova too, but I've never seen that screen before. Where can I find it / activate it?
janvandusschoten said:
I'm using Nova too, but I've never seen that screen before. Where can I find it / activate it?
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You can add it to the home screen as a shortcut:
Long press empty space on home screen - add widget - shortcut activities (drag that to home screen) - Settings - Battery and Performance (PowerUsageSummary)
Then you'll have a shortcut to this battery info screen
10hrs39mins, best yet! On WiFi all day just light chrome/xda/reddit etc.
This is on latest RevolutionOS rom
Has somebody noticed that email apps (like bluemail, gmail...) make the phone never sleep totally ?
I often have 15 hours "held awake" in my gsam battery stats! [emoji33].
If I kill the email apps then my phone sleeps MUCH, better.
I tried several mail apps..same result.
Is it because of Android 9 or Xiaomi?
On my other devices (Android 7 and 8) I don't have this problem with the same apps...
Envoyé de mon MI 9 en utilisant Tapatalk

Tips to For Increasing Battery Life on the Galaxy Note 10

Sooner or later you will find yourself looking to save some battery life. here are a few ways.
5 Tricks to save battery life:
1: Change to a Dark screen or theme: 0:22
2: Put apps to sleep: 1:39
3: Turn-down display resolution and Screen timeout: 3:07
4: Turn off unnecessary features: 4:36
- Wifi
- GPS
- Bluetooth
5: Switch off Vibration and Animations: 5:25
6: Ultimate Battery saver: 7:00
The video shows how to do these if you're not familiar with the settings on the phone. Feel free to add to the list.
If you have anyways of saving battery ( not turning the phone off...) then share it.
Debloating could potentially save some battery. Turning off Wellbeing as well
agreed with other poster, you are crippling the phone with those features disable. Although, I have been testing dark theme and it does help with battery.
I also went into Settings and search for Usage data and disable most app usage data for apps and it gives a performance boost. I also scaled down animation from 1x to 0.5x in dev option.
#8. Do not your phone
I use Nap Time by Francisco Franco which helps especially when you're not using the phone, just need two adb commands to work. Have also debloated quite a bit and not having any troubles with battery life.
For me, an overnight charge gets me through a full day of normal usage, so I don't bother with many power-saving sacrifices. I use AOD and maximum screen resolution, with GPS, BT, & NFC enabled; I don't engage general power-saving, or debloat or disable apps or services. But I do avoid keeping the screen brighter than necessary, I use Night Mode (dark theme), and I enable automatic control of WiFi (turns on when I'm near a network I use, otherwise turns off).
If I'm traveling & sightseeing, constantly using the phone for navigation, photography, and web browsing, and running through a VPN when on WiFi, then the battery only lasts half a day, so I carry a charging brick to supplement it.
I work where I have a lot of free time but no way to charge my phone so haveing a few ways to save battery helps. I do have a battery pack but sometimes I just don't feel like carrying it and a wire.
When you are out of the house and will not be around wifi for a while, turn it off. It constantly searches.
It's not just a couple things... it's many.
Depending on the user and the variant, what works for some will not work for all. Dependencies... know what they are or learn.
If you're still on Pie DO NOT upgrade as it will make optimizing harder.
My SOT on my 10+ is 7-11% @hr 7% for web browsing and 11% for vid streaming. It rarely goes above that... if so I go looking for the cause.
Google play Services is disabled unless I need it running.
Wifi, always disabled.
Bluetooth as needed.
Manual brightness and syncing except for text.
All power management is disabled except fast charging is toggle off. CPU/display power mode set to optimize.
Google Backup Transport and Framework always disabled.
All cloud crap and carrier, Google, app, Samsung feedback disabled.
Google Firebase, Assistant and Quick Search always disabled.
All emergency services junk disabled.
As much of Knox as possible.
All MS crap.
All AT&T junk except texting.
Much of the Samsung bloatware is package blocked but some Samsung apks are useful.
Package Disabler and Karma Firewall lock it down along with a custom settings configuration. About 86 packages are always disabled with about 7 that are toggled on/off with the PD MDM widget.

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