Does anyone expect the S9/S9+ to go through a honeymoon phase and become standard Samsung: lag and micro-stutters? I am not sure if I can trust Samsung's software, but damn that hardware is amazing.
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Does anyone expect the S9/S9+ to go through a honeymoon phase and become standard Samsung: lag and micro-stutters? I am not sure if I can trust Samsung's software, but damn that hardware is amazing.
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No lag here
No lag on mine. Works the same as my S8+.
It works better than s8 with filled ram. It is almost as fluid and fast as pixel 2 and U11 plus.
I had the S7 Edge and even after 2 years I never had lag. The only difference I noticed was the battery wasn't lasting as long, but that's expected.
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I had the S7 Edge and even after 2 years I never had lag. The only difference I noticed was the battery wasn't lasting as long, but that's expected.
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Is that because of the Exynos processor and how Samsung optimizes their devices better to deal with their own proprietary SoC? I had issues with the S7 lagging with the Snapdragon model. I sold my old one off to my friend and he had to put nova launcher to get rid of the main lag.
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Is that because of the Exynos processor and how Samsung optimizes their devices better to deal with their own proprietary SoC? I had issues with the S7 lagging with the Snapdragon model. I sold my old one off to my friend and he had to put nova launcher to get rid of the main lag.
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It's Exynos yes. Also, I always use Nova so if the lag is with Touchwiz, I wouldn't know.
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It's Exynos yes. Also, I always use Nova so if the lag is with Touchwiz, I wouldn't know.
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Ah, that explains why because many probably do that to avoid possible lag with Touchwiz/Samsung Experience. I am contemplating going with a Pixel 2 now vs waiting for the S9+ Snapdragon model to drop in price. If I get the Pixel 2, I am looking to get the Pixel 3 later on too.
No lag here butter smooth on my exynos version,coming from s8+,one plus 5/5t, Huawei mate 10 pro.
Feels really nice and snappy
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Does anyone expect the S9/S9+ to go through a honeymoon phase and become standard Samsung: lag and micro-stutters? I am not sure if I can trust Samsung's software, but damn that hardware is amazing.
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My S9 plus is running smoothly.
I have had the S9+ for a couple of days and unfortunately, I am experiencing the classic Samsung Lag (TM). One the first day, the phone was smooth as butter but as days went by, I started to experience UI jitters and micro-stutters everywhere. I uninstalled a few apps here and there, removed Samsung Pay from the home screen, deleted bxActions which might be causing the issue, etc., but nothing seems to help. Others report that their phone is lag free which confuses me to no end.
I was burned by Samsung with the S3 and swore to myself to never return. But i decided to give the S9+ a try because of the hardware, and I am super disappointed by this. I might try and reset the phone but I doubt it will help.
no issues with mine, butter smooth. running for a week, with all my software installed. bloatware uninstalled/ disabled.
mufaa said:
I have had the S9+ for a couple of days and unfortunately, I am experiencing the classic Samsung Lag (TM). One the first day, the phone was smooth as butter but as days went by, I started to experience UI jitters and micro-stutters everywhere. I uninstalled a few apps here and there, removed Samsung Pay from the home screen, deleted bxActions which might be causing the issue, etc., but nothing seems to help. Others report that their phone is lag free which confuses me to no end.
I was burned by Samsung with the S3 and swore to myself to never return. But i decided to give the S9+ a try because of the hardware, and I am super disappointed by this. I might try and reset the phone but I doubt it will help.
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I've read other forums to do a factory reset. disable the Samsung apps you don't use. try that. it might help.
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I've read other forums to do a factory reset. disable the Samsung apps you don't use. try that. it might help.
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I did a factory reset before setting up the device, and transferred SMS'es, photos and call history from my old phone (OnePlus5). I even performed the 'wipe cache partition' which seemed to have helped but there is still a persistent micro-stutter almost everywhere. I am contemplating a factory reset but i am not sure if it will help.
Would it be too much to ask u to record a video of you going through normal apps on your phone, just to judge the smoothness on your end?
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I did a factory reset before setting up the device, and transferred SMS'es, photos and call history from my old phone (OnePlus5). I even performed the 'wipe cache partition' which seemed to have helped but there is still a persistent micro-stutter almost everywhere. I am contemplating a factory reset but i am not sure if it will help.
Would it be too much to ask u to record a video of you going through normal apps on your phone, just to judge the smoothness on your end?
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Unlock developer options and change these three things to .5 instead of 1
I'm with some on here with the scare of lag down the road. I have jump on demand so I'm not too worried about it. My s8+ lasted about a month before it started lagging and my note 8 which I still have has lag which started about a month after purchase.
But so far this phone is so fluid and fast I haven't even thought about my oneplus 5t at all and currently thinking about selling it. If this phone keeps this up I might finally be a happy Samsung fan since the note 2.
I know I'm extremely happy with night photos too.
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nviz22 said:
Does anyone expect the S9/S9+ to go through a honeymoon phase and become standard Samsung: lag and micro-stutters? I am not sure if I can trust Samsung's software, but damn that hardware is amazing.
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Software doesn't "degenerate," neither does the hardware. It either works or it doesn't. No in between with computers.
If it slows down, that's your fault, not Samsung. The reason why it may "slow down over time" is because of you playing around with settings, messing around with package disablers (pro tip: this does absolutely nothing to help the battery/performance, it makes it worse), or you download ****ty apps over time.
AP actually mentioned this in the S9/S9+. It looks like with Samsung Experience 9, Samsung has sort of neutered the lag beast -- it started with the Note 8 which, apparently, is still snappy months later. So they're saying there's hope that the improved performance should persist through the S9 series. Here's what they said exactly:
"The Galaxy S9 is the first phone on sale to use Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 845 chipset, and as such, all eyes will be on it to see how the new silicon fares. (As a side note, we don’t have the international Exynos variant, and while that new chip does benchmark insanely well, there remain major questions about its real-world performance chops.)
My experience with the Galaxy S9 in the first week of use has been quite good in regard to performance. Of course, anyone who’s used a Samsung phone in recent years might tell you that while the phones are fast out of the box, that feeling tends to fade considerably with time - and I still found that true of the Galaxy S8. But it seems Samsung may be turning over a new leaf, according to our senior editor Ryan Whitwam, starting with the Note8: that phone has remained fast in the months since he started using it, and I’ve seen few long-term performance complaints on the web.
The S9 is already noticeably snappier than even a brand-new Galaxy S8 or Note8, and so I’m hoping that Samsung’s reputation for slowdown over time is one that we can finally get past. I’ll continue using the S9+ for a while after this review just to see how it ages."
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Does anyone expect the S9/S9+ to go through a honeymoon phase and become standard Samsung: lag and micro-stutters? I am not sure if I can trust Samsung's software, but damn that hardware is amazing.
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The game changer here aside from a slightly more efficient CPU, is the fact that the s9+ has 6GB of RAM. That's gonna be the difference over all on performance. Right now I haven't messed with transitions (in developer options) or done any of the "Optimizations" normally recommended for a Samsung phone and it is lightning fast. I have the Snapdragon version too, not the Exynos. But it's definitely noticeably faster and I had the S8+.
Coming from note 8 this phone is running even more smoothly than my note 8. It's like butter!
I'm strongly leaning on getting the s9+ from At&t. The only problem is that it has a locked bootloader. I've been on the flashaholic routine ever since my first android phone (htc OneX). Should I just purchase the At&t version and probably never get root/custom ROM ever? Purchasing the unlocked version would still be affected since it's the snapdragon version. Would that version (SM-G965U) have s better chance of getting root etc in the future, or is the snapdragon s9+ just locked down?
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I am still within the window of returning my G Note (which i love except for a few things) and possibly getting a SGS3.
I really like the GNote and the massive screen, the extra real state is really nice! I am on AT&T and really like the idea of the HSPA network backup to the not yet present LTE here in South Florida. I am getting avg between 4-6 mbps DL.
NOTE (AT&T):
Likes:
* HSPA Network on AT&T
* Screen Size
* S-Pen (I actually use the thing)
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
* No OC on ICS (might be wrong here)
* Potential for less Dev support once SGS3 comes out.
SGS3 (VZW):
Likes:
* Camera...I have toddler at home and a quick camera would be great (this is my biggest factor for considering this phone)
* Power...this things seems like a beast!!!
* form factor
* ICS, although I am not as concerned about software bcs it's a matter of porting by one these great devs in XDA.
Dislike:
* Smaller Screen
* Slow 3G speeds when not on LTE area about 50% of time!
Any thoughts that might help me rationalize this decision is greatly appreciate it!
Thank you!
Crey23 said:
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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No, it's not limited to Launchers, but they do affect normal navigation. I had ran GO, ADW EX, and Holo....and Holo being the "fastest". I just installed Go Ex and it's really fast. I think it more to do with one the widgets that I was running.
But lag can be seen while unlocking, but I hear that the SGS3 is the same...something to do with deep sleep that Samsung uses. It can also be seen while playing some games like Angry Birds. It ran kind of choppy on my old htc Vision(G2) Oc'd @ 1.2 Ghz, but the Note sometimes shows that choppiness too.
One thing that also concerns me is that the RAM is ually running at 65%-75% capacity anyone else?
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3. I sold my international note for the one x and didn't like that phone so I would probably regret trading for the gs3 as well. Once you get used to the screen on the note its hard to downgrade. Believe me when I say that the note's screen looks way better than the one x, even the guy at Walmart's at&t store agreed with me. Hopefully when we get a kernel source it will speed up our notes, although my note isn't that bad now.
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First and foremost determine what you need in a phone, do you need the Horsepower of a quad core? Most apps aren't designed to work with the quad cores and I would believe that the support of them in ICS is kind of like windows, yes they will use them, but will it use them effectively? Do you want the screen or the camera more? I know for my needs I prefer the screen and the camera is plenty quick enough for what I do, but I don't have kids. As for lag, if it's really that bad, I'd exchange it for another. I only saw lag on my phone after I had launched 20 or 25 apps, running tons of widgets and hadn't shut my phone down in 3 weeks.
So in the end, the trade off is what will you utilize more and what would be best for you. I for one wouldn't trade my note for anything, but again I came from a streak and make full use of my very large screen and not the camera so much. Not to mention, you could wait to get the S3, get it, and in a year they'll probably release a phone that has 3.2GHz quad cores with brand new LTE system that's 10x faster than what we have now.
Technology has always grown faster than we can keep up with, the real question is, how long will you wait to get the latest and greatest? That's the reason why I haven't upgraded my home PC. There's always a new CPU coming out with a new form factor, or the next best graphics card is going to be released in a month or two. My current logic with it now is, hey it works, it works well, I'll keep it until it doesn't suit my needs anymore.
Just my thoughts on it.
Apex launcher is the best launcher for the note no lag on my end. I couldn't see myself going to a smaller screen. My hands fit the phone perfect.
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I will share my views with my days with the ATT Note. If you are running stock ROM..it was a HORRIBLE experience. I had my Captivate at the time and it was super smooth compared to the ATT Note stock.
If you are cool changing ROMS, which I think you are since you are here, I would expect it to be a lot better.
As for the dev on the ATT one dying after the GS3 comes out...well , unless you are buying an international GS3, I wont expect the dev for it to be that huge either compared to the international version but this is just a guess.
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lyall29 said:
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3....
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This is exactly my concern.....Yes it might be all that, as the hox was when it came out, but after I played with it for a bit I was not convinced and actually opted for the GNote instead despite the additional $70 that it cost me.
I guess I like to be a s bleeding edge as possible, being that at the speed of industry... in two years, by the time my contract is over, there will be 6.8Ghz eight core, 0.5 TB solid state drive phones with 21MP cameras that wipe my butt too.... But reality is that it might be overkill.
The other thing that attracts me to the SGS# is that finally an Android phone will have as many accessories as an iPhone given the number of pre-sales, and the fact that it will be the flag-ship device for the 5 major carriers in the US/Canada. I am tired of walking into a best buy and see 90 different cases for the iPhone and, if I'm lucky, finding the $hitty Speck case for my Note lol.
Lastly, my other concer is that in order to get the SGS3 I would have to go from AT&T to VZW, and I am not convinced at all of going from lightning fast VZW LTE to crawling speed 3g EV-DO signal. It is reliable in the area, but LTE does not reach 50% of my territory.
I guess I'm going to keep the GNote, root it and wait for a kernel to break 2.0 Ghz blazing fast phone. I have read a few reviews that measure web processing throughput and the Note beats the SGS3 in the benchmark. Also some of the ROMs available have been tweaked to improve DL perfromance quite drastically.
The camera is pretty snappy too....It seems to take long, but when the picture is revealed it look amazing!
Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
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I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Thanks lufc, hadn't realized that I wasn't in Q&A. :
Well I bit the bullet..... I switched to VZW. Specs wise the sgs3 seems to be superior, but push come to shove, a $35 a month savings with unlimited voice and text and 4gb gigs once the new pricing plans kick in at the end of the month.
I will miss the huge screen and te s- pen. And I might regret it, but I had to do it from a logical perspective.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
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Yeah I hear ya.....I have seen multiple videos on the the SGS3 and it seems like an incredibly fluid device. I have to say the screen real state i will miss, but since I am returning my Note today, and will get the SGS3 in early July I am back on an Blackberry Pearl 8130...the screen size is about 1/4 of the Note's....maybe less LOL. So I think by the time i get the G3 it will seem like a huge screen!
I will miss the S-Pen....I did use it quite a bit. I stopped taking my notebook to meetings bcs all I needed was my note.
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I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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You are right in the sence that many phones just need to be optimized in order to get them smooth. I did that with my htc Vision/G2 once I rooted, swaped kernels, flashed a "few" ROM's including ICS and had it OC'd to nearly 2x it's rated processor speed. BUT, and you know a but was coming....
There is something to be said of the posibilities of a device being launched nearly simultaneously on all 5 major carriers in the US...no other device has ever done that (at least under the same name, and never in so close proximity of one from the other).
The other thing impressive about the G3 is the hardware, it's got 2GB of ram, and incredible camera, a very good processor (though not the latest), and note like beautiful screen. For me the camera alone draws my attention, and the fact that the spec are as close to bleeding edge as we can get in a production device, makes me pretty happy to know that I can pull of 2 years of no upgrades.
In fact, when I purchased the htc G2 on T-Mobile nearly 2 yrs ago, it was the only phone on 4G network, and it was the best phone out there for a while, and I found no reason to envy any other devices. I switched from it bcs I got tired of the poor data strength of T-mobile in my area, and the fact that sitting at my office, getting signal was a hit/miss situation, but the device itself it's still kicking....it's my toddler's mini tablet at the moment.
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my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone.
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Ive seen it first hand (the international version). The screen is probably the biggest thing about the SG3, its a better quality screen than the Note.
Samsung has NAILED every phone. Would people be buying it otherwise? Look at the world wide sales, look at the tech reviews, there is hardly anything negative to say about it.
In fact, the only negative is that it doesnt have the latest processor, big whoop in my opinion. Oh, and maybe touchwiz, but touchwiz is decent now, nothing like the pile of poo it was on the Captivate.
Hi everyone.
As you can see, very new to these forums but looks to be a friendly community and I look forward to settling in.
Any who, onto why I made this thread. I received my Galaxy S3 last Friday from AT&T, I paid $573 for no commitment because I'm canceling service with them and using Straight Talk. It started off all good, booted up the phone and had no problems with set up.
However, this soon changed after I got over the initial joy of having a new phone and started to look at it more closely. The home screens stutter when sliding them across, and the app drawer is really not a whole lot better. I'm not talking like freezing lag, but definitely not something you'd want to see on a sub $600 phone...
I ran a few benchmarks and my fears were confirmed.
Antutu: Highest - 5543 on a fresh wipe, 4900 on average. My girlfriend gets 6300 on her SGS2 Looks like the SGS3 should be around 8-10k.
Quadrant Standard - 3273 on mine with a fresh wipe, girlfriend getting 3900 on her S2. Looks like it should be getting about 5000 on average.
So obviously something is wrong with my phone, as even temple run stutters every now and then. I blame bloatware, and AT&T, may not be AT&Ts fault but I hate them. If it matters my CPU seems to be the only thing that isn't scoring as it should, usually it says it is clocked around .9-1.1GHZ, no where near the 1.5 it should. I've tried factory resetting, wiping the cache, soft resetting, and trying to use no sim card at all to see if it made a difference.
Anyway, I'm sorry if you're still reading this, but I'm frustrated, so I'll just ask my questions..
Should I return it, or is there someway I can fix this besides what I've tried?
Is the international version better suited for me because I won't even be using LTE on Straight Talk?
Would the international version have firmware updates a lot quicker than the AT&T version?
Thanks everyone!
TL;DR - I think my AT&T SGS3 is a lemon, and wont be using LTE anyway, should I return it and buy a international version for the updates and quad core?
Sounds like your device has some issues. You should be having a very smooth experience. I would return it for another LTE version, and wouldn't worry about the International version. The S4 dual core is a beast. The extra gb of ram makes the choice for me a no brainer. To each his own though.
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that sounds off- the phone performs good will mostly get over 5000 each time on quadrant- did u check to see if your phone setting may have the power performance cap on? this caps cpu at 1ghz to help conserve battery. if not your phone may be defective.
Thanks for the replies, and no power saving mode is off.
I called AT&T today earlier and they just acted like I was stupid, even though they had no idea what they were talking about.
I guess I'll have to return then, just don't know whether to go for a refund or a replacement..
I'm kinda feel the same way as the op. After a few days in I thought this phone should scream along the screens and I'm getting a lot of stutter. I've used apex and nova launchers and they both display the same stuttering. Somehow I feel cheated that I want to trade for and international version even though giving up on ram, and no LTE. I'm hoping Jelly Bean can bring about butter smoothness as its been of the features of JB. But when will we actually play with JB on our phones, not for some time and even longer without sources. I would love to play with the international just to see which one I like better
I think the international version is a tad faster, and it's definitely faster wwith getting updates which is the main reason I am considering it.
Coming from exynos based sgs2 I'm also pretty disappointed with user interface lag and stutter. Even with nova launcher, it doesn't help. I turned off animations and transitions just so that I'll see less of the lag. Would I get the international version (assuming I had enough money)? No, because I'm utterly blown away by LTE speeds and browser/chrome is running beautifully, and that's more important for me.
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I have had the AT&T (Qualcomm) version for a week now, and have not detected a single instance of lag or stutter. Smooth as "butter". Could be some ill-behaving apps causing your issues... for instance, I know that the official Facebook app is especially bad. I dumped it in favor of something called "Friendcaster" on my old Captivate, and lag pretty much went away.
I have the white AT&T SGS3 and I can honestly say this phone is "butter" smooth.
international has a lot more root and dev support but as for your phone's performance, it looks like they shipped you a defect. i can get 4700 on quadrant with facebook and browser in background. the rest depends on you. if you are a heavy phone user, you should get another lte version as you likely got a defective phone. that or you could root and install the latest redrum rom as its removes bloat if that's your problem. i still beleive you should get the at&t lte as the american version should be still crazy fast so its hardware or bloatware that's troubling you. quad cores isnt that necessary as of right now. hope i helped
Try a Factory reset and see if that helps.
Old galaxy s II using Exynos processor with Mali 400.
Which is faster and optimized then Snapdragon (Adreno 225) in your galaxy s III.
The benchmarking results telling you the trues.
Lets test it:
Click your browser open youtube and play in "desktop mod" FULL 1080p high definition video. (Adreno 225 can't handle this)
This phone is not able to do that.
Now take your girlfriend galaxy s II phone and do samething....
Phone will play full 1080p video in desktop mod so smooth.
Conclusion:
Go get Galaxy s II (with Exynos mali 400) or buy "God like" Galaxy s III international version. Which is currently the world's fastest phone.
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Old guy
Thanks everyone. You've all been really helpful.
Since I'm not even going to be using the LTE network anyway with straight talk, I decided to return my LTE phone to AT&T and I bought an international unlocked one from eBay. I'm pretty excited to get it and see the difference in speed, especially since I had a defective unit...
Again, thanks for your opinions and suggestions, you helped me come to a decision.
It could've been that you were on power saver mode
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I have the Internation Version as im in the UK and I also notice lag but i think this is just the Android OS itself. Jelly Bean will fix that assuming that it somes out for the SG3. Gaming however had been a little dissapointing, Riptide runs blisteringly fast but still Drops framerate especially when all of the jets are on screen at the same time. I am new to Android but seriously didnt expect this on a quad core phone! im hoping it has something to do with poor optimisation. Nova 3 isnt too great either, I reckon its running between 30- 50 FPS is it just my device? or does any GS3 Int version run at 60 FPS. perhaps i have expected to much from arguably the worlds fastest phone? Modern Comabt 3 runs quite well very smooth, looks like its running at 60fps.
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Sounds like your device has some issues. You should be having a very smooth experience. I would return it for another LTE version, and wouldn't worry about the International version. The S4 dual core is a beast. The extra gb of ram makes the choice for me a no brainer. To each his own though.
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agreed...i rather have the 2gb of ram, than a quad cpu that isn't even fully utilizable yet.
I'm seeing a lot of reports of lag, I for one am not experiencing this issue and if I were then this phone would be going back after my experience with the s4.
My g2 runs smoother than any phone I've ever used and I've used a lot of high end phones over the past 2years. I have noticed a couple very slight stutters in the stock launcher but I use next launcher and it runs flawless.
I have past experience with lg phones and it seems they sell a lot of defective models that they know a huge percentage will just deal with because for the most part everything works. Let me say that anyone experiencing lag and/or bad battery most likely have a defective unit. If it were me I would get another or my money back.
I haven't experienced any issues with heat either. I just got the phone though so I'll see how things go. I did have my screen on for 3 hours straight today at 100 percent brightness and the phone never got hot at all. I have yet to do any gaming but I would expect excellent results since it has the best gpu cpu combo of any phone out in America.
I'm coming from an s4 and this phone is leaps and bounds better in every way imo. Anyone doubting they should get this phone because of reported issues should not listen to that and get one because it's a great phone. If it has issues then exchange it for another.
People also need to remember that forums like this help serve us when we have problems so it's always going to be a high amounts of complaints and problems reported. Most people are completely happy with their g2. It has a very high rating on Verizon's wireless site and 95percent recommendation rate.
PS. To those saying that this phone lags period, and its just that you see it and us with slow eyes can't see it because we are just slow and not used to nice smooth phones like you. I think this is silly because many of us have lots of experience with gaming or video editing and can tell the difference between 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. fps. I know that my eye is very capable of seeing frame rate drops and I'm not seeing anything worse than 35fps which is very acceptable. I know this thing is gonna be a beast on cm or some aosp based Rom.
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No lag at all. vzw G2
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My phone is running smoothly. Sure I'll notice the very rare (micro pause?) Or redraw but I would be foolish to tell anyone I have a laggy phone. Even the smoothest of roms I've noticed stutters here and there but the phone in 99.9 percent of use was smooth yet some would say that it was a lag fest omg I'm taking it back.
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Just got the T-Mobile g2 today,loving this phone. No lag whatsoever, even though it does get a tad bit warm, but other phones do that also (s4).
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I get no lag in most things, however some games I have tried have strange stuttering issues. I think it is mostly due to optimizations that need to happen for this chipset as those same games ran very smooth on my older Galaxy Nexus which is way slower and also on my tablet. Doesnt make sense for a much more powerful phone to have stuttering problems in the games so all I can put it down to is a brand new chipset that things need to be updated for.
have you guys tested the scrolling smoothness and touch movement on the screen compared to other phones? If you go to developers settings, you can click the option to "show touches" where a white ball will follow your touch movement on the screen. I think this test shows how smooth the phone really is when it comes to scrolling and touch movement.
I compared it to the S4 at a verizon store and I thought the S4 was somewhat better. The scrolling was better on the S4 as well. The G2 was really fast and snappy though, and I didn't really notice any lag with that. Maybe after a while of usage, perhaps the G2 is better? After all I only tested the units at a store for a small period of time.
I dont know, I thought there were alot of people complaining about lag too, it sure seemed like it but really there arent alot of people complaining it was just really the same users reposting. It made it seem like it was more magnified than it really was. Some other users were talking about stutter here and there but it was more like micro stutter, kinda like what I experience here and there. To the untrained eye its hard to see but coming from pure stock android roms (CM rom etc...) its more prevalent to the eye, but in no way does it ruin the experience. Im sure we will get updated drivers for the hardware and GPU that will get released for the Nexus 5, and since it will be sporting the same hardware as the G2. Developers should be able to use those drivers in AOSP based roms but im not sure if that will be the same for custom roms based on the stock OS
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I have past experience with lg phones and it seems they sell a lot of defective models that they know a huge percentage will just deal with because for the most part everything works
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What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
I changed the settings of the SoC to 512 buffer using deadline governor , set cpu to max speeds using performance governor.
Changed MP to disabled and things are smooth after running clean up tool which kills all the bloatwear. :good:
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I changed the settings of the SoC to 512 buffer using deadline governor , set cpu to max speeds using performance governor.
Changed MP to disabled and things are smooth after running clean up tool which kills all the bloatwear. :good:
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Interesting, i was wondering if someone had tinkered with the kernel settings in TricksterMod, would like to know have you had any crashes or reboots?
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have you guys tested the scrolling smoothness and touch movement on the screen compared to other phones? If you go to developers settings, you can click the option to "show touches" where a white ball will follow your touch movement on the screen. I think this test shows how smooth the phone really is when it comes to scrolling and touch movement.
I compared it to the S4 at a verizon store and I thought the S4 was somewhat better. The scrolling was better on the S4 as well. The G2 was really fast and snappy though, and I didn't really notice any lag with that. Maybe after a while of usage, perhaps the G2 is better? After all I only tested the units at a store for a small period of time.
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As a former S4 owner and a seasoned android user, I can tell you with complete confidence that this phone is not even close to as laggy than the S4. Not even close.
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I have seen no lag on my T-Mobile G2. Everything is silky smooth. I have had it since Monday. Funny thing is this is the longest I have ran a phone without either rooting, installing a ROM, or changing the launcher. I really like what LG did overall.
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Interesting, i was wondering if someone had tinkered with the kernel settings in TricksterMod, would like to know have you had any crashes or reboots?
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Changing the governor to one that's included in the kernel and changing CPU speeds within its stock limits is unlikely to cause any instability.
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spectrum, revolution...
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What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
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I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
EDIT: No lag on my G2. The phone absolutely screams, performance wise.
Another tip, until Android 4.3 comes out for the G2 (or we get AOSP) is to use the Lag Fix app. On my old Galaxy Nexus, this goddamn thing produced _AMAZING_ results. The bug that causes this is apparently fixed in 4.3, but since our G2s are running 4.2.2, I figured I might as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852
and the app itself...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
I have it scheduled to fstrim every morning at 5AM. A bit excessive? I don't care, my GNex loved it... it was like having a freshly installed OS every morning.
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I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
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So another words your going off of nothing. Kinda a big statement to say a company sells defective devices and will deal with it later but have no basis. Oh the wonderful internet.Jeeesh
you win
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What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
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So another words your going off of nothing. Kinda a big statement to say a company sells defective devices and will deal with it later but have no basis. Oh the wonderful internet.Jeeesh
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so my naming two phones and my experience with them and my countless hours of monitoring their forums and helping people with issues and reading the countless reports of the same issues over and over is nothing? ok
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I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
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Ppl are constantly and forever reporting problems. Are there exist phone that is not prone to problems? For example Apple iphone X, did any of iPhone series have not had issues reported? 50% of ppl's problems goes from not reading in-box including manuals and instructions and asking simple and silly questions all over forums. I don't blame those ppl and not calling them silly, everybody has job and family to spend time instead of reading manuals. And other 50% part of reports is indeed from defective units but I doubt you have any proof that revolution & spectrum had many more defective units in stores than, say, galaxys
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Ppl are constantly and forever reporting problems. Are there exist phone that is not prone to problems? For example Apple iphone X, did any of iPhone series have not had issues reported? 50% of ppl's problems goes from not reading in-box including manuals and instructions and asking simple and silly questions all over forums. I don't blame those ppl and not calling them silly, everybody has job and family to spend time instead of reading manuals. And other 50% part of reports is indeed from defective units but I doubt you have any proof that revolution & spectrum had many more defective units in stores than, say, galaxys
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I never said LG produces more defective units than anyone else. I just said that my experience with them is that many defective units get sold. I'm sure everyone does this as it is with all technology. (how many of us who build our own PC's have received DOA parts) I've only owned samsung and LG phones and my experience so far has been LG is better.
Anyway! it's not the subject I was making this thread about.
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I never said LG produces more defective units than anyone else. I just said that my experience with them is that many defective units get sold. I'm sure everyone does this as it is with all technology. (how many of us who build our own PC's have received DOA parts)
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for me: I've never in whole life, but I try to pick up brands and models carefully. Even raid x0 of 4 hitachis works 24/7/365 flawlessly fur years
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I've only owned samsung and LG phones and my experience so far has been LG is better.
Anyway! it's not the subject I was making this thread about.
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I'm too didn't want to be offendive but only tried to stat that lg selling garbage and selling defective units is mere exaggeration IMHO. So this is the proof
Let me say this first, I have used the iPhone 3GS, 4, before I hopped on the Android bandwagon. I have been very happy using samsung phones since then (S II, HTC One X, S III, HTC One), but the S4 and the Note 3 made me want to switch back to the iPhone because of it's unbearable lag. So when the S5 was announced, I had already made up my mind about going back to the Apple ecosystem. Then I tried my wife's Galaxy S5 and let me tell you, this is THE smoothest Android phone I have ever used (not including nexus of course, because I imagine it to run smooth because it runs stock android). The new touch wiz skin on this phone is SEXY. I'm glad I didn't jump the ship so soon!!!
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Let me say this first, I have used the iPhone 3GS, 4, before I hopped on the Android bandwagon. I have been very happy using samsung phones since then (S II, HTC One X, S III, HTC One), but the S4 and the Note 3 made me want to switch back to the iPhone because of it's unbearable lag. So when the S5 was announced, I had already made up my mind about going back to the Apple ecosystem. Then I tried my wife's Galaxy S5 and let me tell you, this is THE smoothest Android phone I have ever used (not including nexus of course, because I imagine it to run smooth because it runs stock android). The new touch wiz skin on this phone is SEXY. I'm glad I didn't jump the ship so soon!!!
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Lol the s4 had lag, i know cause i had it, but the note 3 has ZERO lag on stock out of the box and I've read on the 4 major carriers the there is still lag on the s5 out of the box. Interesting assessment on your part.
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Lol the s4 had lag, i know cause i had it, but the note 3 has ZERO lag on stock out of the box and I've read on the 4 major carriers the there is still lag on the s5 out of the box. Interesting assessment on your part.
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Both device have lag bumps here and there out of the box lol
Some carriers worse then others , It really comes down to bloat.
My Bro picked up GN3 last week its a great device but my GS5 shows slightly smoother performance....at least in are side by side testing.
Could it be snap801 adding the edge hmm maybe. we can rule out ram being the reason lol
Also,
Radio is stronger in GS5
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Both device have lag bumps here and there out of the box lol
Some carriers worse then others , It really comes down to bloat.
My Bro picked up GN3 last week its a great device but my GS5 shows slightly smoother performance....at least in are side by side testing.
Could it be snap801 adding the edge hmm maybe. we can rule out ram being the reason lol
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Radio is stronger in GS5
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the sd 801 is basically an overclocked 800. Every other device the 801 is clocked at 2.3ghz same as all the 800's. And you then must be the rare bird because everyone has said the note 3 was the first Galaxy phone with TW that launched with no lag. And you do hear a lot of people complaining about lag on the S5. I mean if it's working for you then great, it's just about everyone else sees it the opposite way.
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the sd 801 is basically an overclocked 800. Every other device the 801 is clocked at 2.3ghz same as all the 800's. And you then must be the rare bird because everyone has said the note 3 was the first Galaxy phone with TW that launched with no lag. And you do hear a lot of people complaining about lag on the S5. I mean if it's working for you then great, it's just about everyone else sees it the opposite way.
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Oh my a rar bird lol
All new device release get lag complaints my friend.
I mean come on love your Note3 but don't be blind - https://www.google.com/search?q=Gal...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Both device are grade A equal in my book....hmm Well GS5 has better radio & less wake lag , other then that pretty equal.
Also adding:
I'm a big Note fan!
I got hooked on GN2 loved it to death finding GN3 not to be worthy upgrade for a couple reasons.....one of them being build quality so I took the chance on LG G2.
LG G2 was....was at top of the mountain before 4.4 kitkat update.
After update battery life & performance took a dump so it was time for new device
GN3 or GS5.
I choose GS5 because of water resistance lol
When GN4 becomes available I will own one
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Oh my a rar bird lol
All new device release get lag complaints my friend.
I mean come on love your Note3 but don't be blind - https://www.google.com/search?q=Gal...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Both device are grade A equal in my book....hmm Well GS5 has better radio & less wake lag , other then that pretty equal.
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I'm not talking kk I'm talking original release 4.3 since kk isn't really worth the update. But each has there lag? Didn't you say the s5 was lag free?
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I'm not talking kk I'm talking original release 4.3 since kk isn't really worth the update. But each has there lag? Didn't you say the s5 was lag free?
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Buddy I was a hardcore Note 2 owner that backed away from GN3 upgrade due to build quality,,,,that darn loose home button scared me away lol
Anyway while GN2 user I came across many lag postings in GN3 land during its release, Its the norm for all devices.
No never said GS5 is lag free , This is what I said,
"Both device have lag bumps here and there out of the box "
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Buddy I was a hardcore Note 2 owner that backed away from GN3 upgrade due to build quality,,,,that darn loose home button scared me away lol
Anyway while GN2 user I came across many lag postings in GN3 land during its release, Its the norm for all devices.
No never said GS5 is lag free , This is what I said,
"Both device have lag bumps here and there out of the box "
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my bad it was the other guy who mentioned s5 was lag free or hinted that way. About the home button, I think that was the initial stock, because I know 7 people with note 3 and all of us have no button issues. Buttons are rock solid, no wiggle at all. Haven't heard the button issues since launch. To bad you skipped the note3, it's the best phone I've ever owned and the best I've ever used. I've played around with the LG g2, htc one, s3, note 2, LG g flex plus the ones I've owned.
To see Lag on note 3 & S4:
1. Open Phone app:
2. Press the top right contacts buttons
3. Press the top left keypad button
4. swtich back and fourth. you will see the lag.
Compare the same on a GS5. Smooth as butter.
Yes the best
LOVE MY S5:good::good::good::good::good:
I'm actually selling mine after owning for only 3 days (rooted, SIM unlocked, and bootloader switched to TWRP).
Why? On alliancerom, I have had to do so much work to get it close to the CM experience I had on the S2, S3, and S4. Nothing can come close For example, I need a fast camera...and although the stock rom camera is fast, in the custom roms I tried, the camera in my experience was slow (tried 4 different cameras).
The S4 is actually quite respectable compared to the S5, especially if running CM or other rom.
Don't get me wrong about TouchWiz, on my Note 10.1 2014, I updated to latest KitKat update, which is Touchwiz, however in phone implementation, there just isn't enough customization. Yes I tried GravityBox, Xposed, and the lot, but it just wasn't the same.
Maybe I'll be back for the S5 Prime if it comes out...but my next might end up being the Asus PadFone X...we will see!
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I'm actually selling mine after owning for only 3 days (rooted, SIM unlocked, and bootloader switched to TWRP).
Why? On alliancerom, I have had to do so much work to get it close to the CM experience I had on the S2, S3, and S4. Nothing can come close For example, I need a fast camera...and although the stock rom camera is fast, in the custom roms I tried, the camera in my experience was slow (tried 4 different cameras).
The S4 is actually quite respectable compared to the S5, especially if running CM or other rom.
Don't get me wrong about TouchWiz, on my Note 10.1 2014, I updated to latest KitKat update, which is Touchwiz, however in phone implementation, there just isn't enough customization. Yes I tried GravityBox, Xposed, and the lot, but it just wasn't the same.
Maybe I'll be back for the S5 Prime if it comes out...but my next might end up being the Asus PadFone X...we will see!
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phone's been out for only a couple weeks...obviously all the major ROMs are yet to be released..not sure how you made your decision on a phone based on some preliminary ROMS
devoidx said:
phone's been out for only a couple weeks...obviously all the major ROMs are yet to be released..not sure how you made your decision on a phone based on some preliminary ROMS
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Issue being people are basing their previous androids experience on how quick roms came etcc.. Times have changed, there's more security added which we all know by know. Year by year manufacturers and carriers will make it harder to root
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daxecutioner24 said:
Issue being people are basing their previous androids experience on how quick roms came etcc.. Times have changed, there's more security added which we all know by know. Year by year manufacturers and carriers will make it harder to root
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Im going to have to say that Samsung is the reason behind the bad and slow complicated development on the Galaxy S devices. If you take a loot at the HTC One development threads there plenty going on over there. Everything from plenty of custom roms to GPE roms to CM.
I just traded my HTC One M8 today for the Galaxy S5 due to me being disappointed in the camera on the HTC One M8.
Performance wise, I get hicups and lag every now and then when swping home screens and backing out of apps ecetra. With me having 2 kids and I take pictures allot so switching to the S5 was a plus on my end.
After being on S4 - M7 - Note 2 and Note 3, the S5 seems to have more lag then other devices.
If you want a "Smooth" "Lag Free" android experience then I recommend the HTC One M8. That phone had almost 0 lag at all. Samsung Touchwiz seems to always lag down for some reason.
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To see Lag on note 3 & S4:
1. Open Phone app:
2. Press the top right contacts buttons
3. Press the top left keypad button
4. swtich back and fourth. you will see the lag.
Compare the same on a GS5. Smooth as butter.
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The Phone app on the S4 & the contacts app are two separate apps. The Contact button is a hyperlink between the two. If you'll notice, the buttons change at the top also, except for the one which brings back the actual phone keypad. If you go looking through the complete app list in something like TiBu, you'll find both of them. One is like Phone.apk and the other is Dialer.apk or something.
On the S5, the two are one and the same. This way the S5 doesn't have to call a new app into memory just to access the contacts.
That all being aside, I have to say that this version of TW is probably the best looking TW I have ever seen. I love the flat color and the simple flat UI design. Apple started it, but Samsung definitely outdid themselves this time around. I think the only thing I'll be doing this go-round is rooting the phone.. although T-Mobile doesn't like giving out OTAs to rooted devices... might need a way around that in the future. Everything else is great.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Best Phone Samsung has ever made
i owned a note 4, for about 4 years until it died on me (dropped it, the screen popped out and that's it). since i owned a few Chinese brands (mid tier phones).
now after getting the note 9 i remembered why i loved my note 4 so much.
its a complete package, it checks all the boxes and overall an amazing device that gives me the proper value for the money. yes its expensive but its also the best of the best.
Overall I love it.
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My first note device and first samsung device. I've used many other android devices over the years. I know the number one complaint above this device is probably the price. It's certainly the most expensive phone I've bought to date but ... It's worth every penny! I love it!!!
Can't fault it... Got to be the best all round device... If it had an ir blaster for my TV it would have an the bases covered
My preeeeeciouuuuussssssssss.
Coming from an S7 to a NOTE9, Wooooo what a nice change! Enjoying it so far, and am loving the S-Pen.
Cheers,
M.
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:good::good::good: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 is a fabulously tremendous phone that everyone loves. even Samsung Galaxy Note 9 is the best deal in 2018
Everything is perfect, loving it so much more than the Note8! Only gripe would be Bixby... it seems like they threw out some things Bixby 1.0 could do in 2.0 which makes it feel even more inconsistent now... It does seem to have better voice recognition though. For the time being, I remapped Bixby to Google Assistant (something I never did with Bixby 1.0!!!) until they fix Bixby 2 with some updates.
I would share my experience with my Note 9 (Exy)
I trink it is the better Note 8, wich i had before. Overall Speed, Accu & Devicequality is in my opinion so much better. The Display is one of the best i See so far, beside other Devices. I said this about my Note 8 Top, but with my Note 9, i can truely say it is the best Device i owned yet.
Experience from Samsung is absolue lag free. Atm i have the first Time no reason to root my Device.
I think that i will run this great Phone a few years
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Coming from an S9+. I dig the Note design.
I love it but needs a little update regarding battery. Exynos version drain 1 percent an hour..
illetyus said:
I love it but needs a little update regarding battery. Exynos version drain 1 percent an hour..
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100 hours from a phone sounds reasonable to me.
I would probably rate this the best android phone i have ever bought if not for the crap battery life on the exynos version.
Best phone ever was still the HTC One m7 imho
Notes 9 is the best phone Notes so far.?
Just got the phone. Came from LG v20. Definitely a huge improvement. Also like it better than my S7 edge. Edge was my favorite phone to date until I broke the screen and grabbed up the V20 to hold me over. Got the note 9 buy one get one free so me and my wife can enjoy
Upgraded from my 2.5 year old S7E to N9 512GB. Loving it absolutely. Great battery life too, getting around 40% left at the end of the day.
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Everything is perfect, loving it so much more than the Note8! Only gripe would be Bixby... it seems like they threw out some things Bixby 1.0 could do in 2.0 which makes it feel even more inconsistent now... It does seem to have better voice recognition though. For the time being, I remapped Bixby to Google Assistant (something I never did with Bixby 1.0!!!) until they fix Bixby 2 with some updates.
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I agree, I was excited to use Bixby but I cant find any of the features many people praised about!
i am pleasantly surprised. not many despised TW UI like i did. i actually liked the refresh on the s8, but the lag was still there.
i can confidently say they have finally fixed the lagging issue, albeit with raw power rather than more clever methods.
this is the best phone available right now. i've been flying through phones like crazy for the past 2 years, almost settled on my mate 10, then this came along. very happy.
After some teething problems I'm completely in love with mine. Finally something that's big enough for my hands! (with a case) I'm on Verizon-only one with decent coverage here. (Central Pa.) Can't get over how nice the display is and the sound is great on internal speakers. Using Nova launcher. Caveat: I was using ADW 2 and it wouldn't let me make URL shortcuts to the homescreen with Chrome. Nova works fine. FYI because I was pulling my hair out for awhile.
I use Package Disabler pro plus to freeze nuisance apps and stop Bixby, which I can't care less about. Adguard for other nuisances. Root doesn't matter with this one since it's so damn fast anyway!
I came from a V10 which was starting to not wake up and had totally abysmal battery life, couldn't get through a day without it dying. Note 9 has been going for two days straight... the bigger battery is what really sold me.
Others said it... best Samsung yet!