Related
Hi all!
Could you be so kind and help me revert back to honeycomb stock?
I know it sounds crazy, but I cant stand anymore how slow and laggy CM 10.1 I currently use is on this device. I've tried a lot of things like factory reset, reflushing lates nightly etc. Still horribly slow and at times totally unresponsive.
My ultimate goal is return back to task650 rom.
However I cannot find any HC stock images. I do not think that I can simply flush HC rom in CM 6.0.3.1 recovery.
I was only able to find hc-3.2_touchwiz_ux-full_sam_tab_10.1.zip from pershoot.
Please advise! Any help will be greatly appreciated!
CNemo7539 said:
Hi all!
Could you be so kind and help me revert back to honeycomb stock?
I know it sounds crazy, but I cant stand anymore how slow and laggy CM 10.1 I currently use is on this device. I've tried a lot of things like factory reset, reflushing lates nightly etc. Still horribly slow and at times totally unresponsive.
My ultimate goal is return back to task650 rom.
However I cannot find any HC stock images. I do not think that I can simply flush HC rom in CM 6.0.3.1 recovery.
I was only able to find hc-3.2_touchwiz_ux-full_sam_tab_10.1.zip from pershoot.
Please advise! Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure where to find an HC-image yet, but what about trying Omni-ROM 4.4.2 KitKat newest build (+ A1-Kernel)?
It still has got some quirks, like bluetooth-audio not working or slow Video-decoding, but the rest is quite good and fluid now.
Thanks for your reply! However we are talking about my wife tablet and she needs video/cameras and BT.
So, unfortunately KK is out consideration at this point.
By the way, is KK Omni really that better? Thought I guess anything is better then touching screen and seeing touch and then waiting a couple of seconds for an action to really happen. I do not know what Google changed in memory management, but it now doesn't hold a candle against older versions. At least for such old device as Tab 10.1 is.
If your wife doesn't need much features, go for Omni 4.3. Its very smooth and stable enough for daily use.
Sent from my GT-P7500 using Tapatalk
CNemo7539 said:
Thanks for your reply! However we are talking about my wife tablet and she needs video/cameras and BT.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Camera works; Bluetooth works also, just not streaming audio to a bluetooth-audio-device; Videos also work. Lokally stored seem to be better than streamed (YouTube, gameone, etc.)
So, unfortunately KK is out consideration at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then... What about JellyBean3 (Android 4.3.1)?
I think most if not all you need is already compatible on that and it is a lot better in any case, thought.
By the way, is KK Omni really that better? Thought I guess anything is better then touching screen and seeing touch and then waiting a couple of seconds for an action to really happen. I do not know what Google changed in memory management, but it now doesn't hold a candle against older versions. At least for such old device as Tab 10.1 is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even 4.1.2 cm10 was superior,... What do you think you can expect from a Kitkat-Build?
IMHO, yes it is, even with those little quirks...
...and not to be mean, but I really don't think any 4.2-build can be called stable... They all have heavy idle-times/"hangs" up to a minute, if you've got some CPU&IO-Load-Hungry apps installed and running...
TnA.Plastic said:
...and not to be mean, but I really don't think any 4.2-build can be called stable... They all have heavy idle-times/"hangs" up to a minute, if you've got some CPU&IO-Load-Hungry apps installed and running...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... May be it is my bad luck... I do not remember any CM build of any version that was smooth as Task650 rom.
So, you suggest to try rollback to 4.1? I though they stopped development.
Wife use BT streaming... I just got her nice LG headphones.
I guess I softened the problem a little bit for now by removing all apps that create background services and account. FB, LinkIn etc.
It helped a little bit.
CNemo7539 said:
Well... May be it is my bad luck... I do not remember any CM build of any version that was smooth as Task650 rom.
So, you suggest to try rollback to 4.1? I though they stopped development.
Wife use BT streaming... I just got her nice LG headphones.
I guess I softened the problem a little bit for now by removing all apps that create background services and account. FB, LinkIn etc.
It helped a little bit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. I think you should rather try a 4.3.x-based build.
I have a Dell Venue 7 3730 with a stock ROM 4.4.2. I hate it, its so unstable. And desperately looking for a custom ROM to replace it. I don't care about warranty as its second had already and I have rooted it.n apps crash all the time, Facebook, gmail, camera, etc... All of then crash almost all the time and is unpredictable. Other apps refuse to even run at all, crashing instantly on loading. The system ui constantly crashes and yes I do get random reboots from time to time.
Any suggestions on a good lite ROM? Or anyway to stabilize this stock?
evandenbroecke said:
I have a Dell Venue 7 3730 with a stock ROM 4.4.2. I hate it, its so unstable. And desperately looking for a custom ROM to replace it. I don't care about warranty as its second had already and I have rooted it.n apps crash all the time, Facebook, gmail, camera, etc... All of then crash almost all the time and is unpredictable. Other apps refuse to even run at all, crashing instantly on loading. The system ui constantly crashes and yes I do get random reboots from time to time.
Any suggestions on a good lite ROM? Or anyway to stabilize this stock?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no problems on either 4.4.2 or 4.3, if an older version OS worked well for you perhaps flash back to it.
vampirefo said:
I have no problems on either 4.4.2 or 4.3, if an older version OS worked well for you perhaps flash back to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no idea how it worked on this device, when I bought it from the pawn shop it already had kk.
evandenbroecke said:
I have no idea how it worked on this device, when I bought it from the pawn shop it already had kk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are no custom roms that I know of for these tablets, there are 3 different stock roms, 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, My tablet is 3830, which is basically a larger version of your tablet, I use both 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock roms, they both work well for me.
[QRCODE][/QRCODE]
vampirefo said:
There are no custom roms that I know of for these tablets, there are 3 different stock roms, 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, My tablet is 3830, which is basically a larger version of your tablet, I use both 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock roms, they both work well for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder what is going wrong then, I had issues with this even before I rooted it. Just won't keep apps alive especially Facebook, constantly crashes all the time.
My Venue 8 is on 4.4 and my screen just blacks out for absolutely no reason in the middle of using it. I'm considering contacting Dell for a replacement. I have already factory wiped it twice but still happens. Not going to rely on root and custom roms to fix it in case it's not a software issue.
evandenbroecke said:
[QRCODE][/QRCODE]
I wonder what is going wrong then, I had issues with this even before I rooted it. Just won't keep apps alive especially Facebook, constantly crashes all the time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No ideal I currently dual boot 4.4.2 and 4.3, so I can easily switch between OS, both OS work great for me, no problems with any apps, I really don't know what is wrong with your tablet, or if downgrading will help you or not.
let find the problem, shall we?
vampirefo said:
No ideal I currently dual boot 4.4.2 and 4.3, so I can easily switch between OS, both OS work great for me, no problems with any apps, I really don't know what is wrong with your tablet, or if downgrading will help you or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any idea how we can track down the problem? I am well versed in Linux OS, and I know Linux should like to log everything, so how do we track this issue and come up with a solution? I've looked at logcat but I don't make much sense of it, if only I knew what I was looking for... Sorry android development is still some what new, though I have been a sole Linux user for decades now. Any help is much appreciated. Looking at the forums, I am not the only person it seems...
Thanks,
Todd, E.T.
If it was me, I would download SDC's 4.4.2 system.img unpack it, pull the system from my tablet, diff -r and see if they are different I suspect they are different.
Ideally you would want a system image pulled from a tablet that has no problems, then compare with yours, then naturally install the good system dump on your tablet.
evandenbroecke said:
Any idea how we can track down the problem? I am well versed in Linux OS, and I know Linux should like to log everything, so how do we track this issue and come up with a solution? I've looked at logcat but I don't make much sense of it, if only I knew what I was looking for... Sorry android development is still some what new, though I have been a sole Linux user for decades now. Any help is much appreciated. Looking at the forums, I am not the only person it seems...
Thanks,
Todd, E.T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jayjr1105 said:
My Venue 8 is on 4.4 and my screen just blacks out for absolutely no reason in the middle of using it. I'm considering contacting Dell for a replacement. I have already factory wiped it twice but still happens. Not going to rely on root and custom roms to fix it in case it's not a software issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See if this helps.
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/4585/p/19588497/20677400#20677400
sent from my kingSing T1 via taptalk
While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
I have experience with custom roms. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 running Philz and Lollipop as well as a Note 10.1 running TWRP and Kitkat. So, I have experience with successfully installing recoveries and flashing custom roms to devices.
This one isn't as easy for some reason.
I can get a rooted stock rom by following the directions here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyfWpBJpiE
but no matter what I try, I can't get any further than that.
When I tried to sign in with the google play store, I am told my password is bad (which it isn't). Then I get an email from google in my gmail account telling me that someone (which was me) has tried to sign in to my account but was denied because the device they were using is way too old. So, getting anything on to my device via the play store that I need, such as a terminal emulator, TWRP install, etc, is apparently out of the questions.
gapps won't flash without errors, so that is out of the question, too.
the included es file explorer won't see the internal SD card for a reason I haven't been able to figure out (yes, it has root access), so copying apk files over and installing them from there is out.
When I boot off of ann sd card, and attempt to flash custom recoveries from the internal storage, I am also unsuccessful. With TWRP, I get errors. With CWM, it says it was successful, but it isn't.
So, every road I go down to get CM on this thing is blocked.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
xflbret said:
While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try:
1. A factory reset
2. The instructions here---they worked for me as a noob.
That could leave you with CM 10.2. If you'd like something higher, this post might send you in the right direction after you succeed with CM 10.x, but it does become more complicated. Or you can just try to get there directly.
It can't be too late:fingers-crossed: There's life in that tablet yet!
Edit: I see that the CM 10.2 build is no longer posted over at Cyanogenmod. If you want to try it, let me know. I have the zip file.
Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
xflbret said:
Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
nmyshkin said:
I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
xflbret said:
You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I finally located the 10.x downloads here. I'm using the last stable build, 10.2.1 (Android equivalent 4.3.1). You should use the gapps package that is listed for 10.2 build here.
Like I said in an earlier post, I followed the excellent directions from digixmax here and while the initial boot was kind of confusing, things did sort themselves out. But that method assumes you are starting from stock. If you can't get back to there you'll need to try something else.
Once in a blue moon some app in the PlayStore will be listed as incompatible, I guess because Google can't quite figure out what to make of these modded tablets, even though the Android version is well within reach of CM 10.2. That happened recently to me with my local newspaper app. I just used this site to download the app outside the PlayStore and then side-loaded it. It installed and works just fine.
Good luck! I hope this all works to your satisfaction
Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
xflbret said:
Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry it didn't work out well for you. It's obvious to say, but either there is a hardware issue or something did not go right in the flashing. Otherwise no one would bother with these things.
You've probably already looked at this, but just in case, under Settings/Performance/Processor I show a resting CPU freq. of 300 MHz, the governor set at "interactive, and a max. CPU freq. of 1008 MHz. Theoretically you could try playing with those if you have the same figures, but I'm not sure where that would take you.
The only custom kernel I could find for this was for KitKat, so I reflashed with that. I clocked both the minimum and the maximum to 1200 MHz. Even at that, my Antutu benchmarks score was just under 14k, or less than half of the score for my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I never got "great" results with this device so far, but the KK with the custom kernel is the best I have got so far. I'm tempted to try this KK kernel with the lollipop build to see what happens. If I do that, I'll report my results.
This device is over four years old now. Add to this that, at the time, it wasn't exactly designed to break any speed records. All it was intended to do is read ebooks, and play a few other select apps. No GPS, no bluetooth. I guess asking it to run today's resource intense apps like Facebook may be asking too much of it. But, for some weird reason, I can't let this go now. It is kind of like an electronic pet to me. I keep it by my easy chair, and I pick it up and start doing something with it quite often.
Yeah, I was just getting ready to point you toward the kernal for CM 11 but you got there without my direction.
It's really puzzling to me that your system seems so slow. Maybe mine is too! I've never owned a tablet before (I don't count my much-modded NST e-ink reader!) and this one running CM 10.2 seems just fine to me, certainly no worse than laptops I often work with. I have an inexpensive LG smartphone I just bought to use as an mp3 player after my much-loved Insignia Pilot finally died. It runs KitKat and seems about as responsive as my Nook Tablet, maybe slightly better, so I guess a lot is what we are used to.
Hello guys!
I have just received my Dell Venue 8 7840 32Gb version. OS Kitkat 4.4. Everything is perfect, no wi-fi issues, screen is awesome no need for adjusting apps.
Dell did not include much garbage with its rom. Those apps unnecessary I just turned off. Battery life is good.
Should I update it? I've read numerous posts on forums about sound, wi-fi and battery issues that might come with 5.1.
Thanks
upgrading to latest 5.1 might be a bit of a russian roulette. Some people have no issues at all, others have crackling sound, random freezes or (like me) rare wifi drops. So if you're brave and/or might feel the need to get the enhancements of Lollipop, you can upgrade. If it's running fine for the moment, you can also stick to it as it is. But just keep in mind that you can't stay on 4.4 forever.
toxic_garden said:
upgrading to latest 5.1 might be a bit of a russian roulette. Some people have no issues at all, others have crackling sound, random freezes or (like me) rare wifi drops. So if you're brave and/or might feel the need to get the enhancements of Lollipop, you can upgrade. If it's running fine for the moment, you can also stick to it as it is. But just keep in mind that you can't stay on 4.4 forever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am from Russia but not much interested in the risk. Guess I shall better wait for 6.0 for our device. Hoping for it very much )
Or if I do want to upgrade, is it possible to back up 4.4 and then to restore it if Lollipop come with issues?
PS: i dont need root.
Thanks!
Работает не трогай.
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
IrethTassartir said:
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
madbat99 said:
For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on latest Android 6 stock, unencrypted and Fire Ice kernel. its running fine and if use the chrome that comes with the stock and don't update it, it will run fine.
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
IrethTassartir said:
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
madbat99 said:
That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
IrethTassartir said:
But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to hear. That usually is the fix for that.
Please, just to confirm, is this "image-volantis-n9f27l" official ROM or it's custom ROM?
I also use this bootloader : "bootloader-flounder-3.50.0.0143" since other ones didn't work for me.
I was with support trying to solve issue of Device restarting every time I install new app or update app, and while trying to clear cache partition, it gone to my device not wanting to boot. so i had to factory reset, and it still won't start android in full. so i have to reflash ROM. I guess.
I'm kinda lost now cause i don't know what to do.
As said i just want for my device to be rooted so i can delete all apps i don't need and change launcher (deleting existing one - well i don't know if it's smart or not. i figure why having two launcers when i will use only one).
And i want to play games and use apps without it failing on me all the time.