V30+ Gone from T-Mobile.com? - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Looks like the V30+ is nowhere to be found online at T-Mobile.com
Anyone know if they had plans of killing it off so quickly? Or could it be zero inventory causing this? Google shows up a T-Mobile V30+ subpage, but when you click on it it takes you to the main landing page.
https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/lg-v30-plus
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My plan was to pick one up this Friday.

Might be that LG is getting ready to transition to the V30s and V30s +. No reason for LG to continue to sell the previous branding. Hardware-wise, the only difference will be additional memory, but once LG updates all V30 to the new AI, they will be, in effect V30s and V30s +. The only V30/V30 + might be the ones already out in stock with the carriers, B&H, Amazon that haven't been purchase yet.

Wolfsbane58 said:
Might be that LG is getting ready to transition to the V30s and V30s +. No reason for LG to continue to sell the previous branding. Hardware-wise, the only difference will be additional memory, but once LG updates all V30 to the new AI, they will be, in effect V30s and V30s +. The only V30/V30 + might be the ones already out in stock with the carriers, B&H, Amazon that haven't been purchase yet.
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Well, that makes sense then.

Wolfsbane58 said:
Might be that LG is getting ready to transition to the V30s and V30s +. No reason for LG to continue to sell the previous branding. Hardware-wise, the only difference will be additional memory, but once LG updates all V30 to the new AI, they will be, in effect V30s and V30s +. The only V30/V30 + might be the ones already out in stock with the carriers, B&H, Amazon that haven't been purchase yet.
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Yes, the V30S will have 128GB internal memory and in effect will replace the V30+.
The V30S+ will have 256GB internal storage.
The S variants have 6GB RAM.
So, you'll have V30 (64GB/ 4GB RAM), V30S and V30S+.
This overlap between LG V30+ and LG V30S probably is the reason behind the bootloader unlock list fiasco.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+

man, i just bought this phone. this is disconcerting. mine has the blotchy colors and i'm getting a replacement refurb today. this concerns me when it comes to support.

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, the V30S will have 128GB internal memory and in effect will replace the V30+.
The V30S+ will have 256GB internal storage.
The S variants have 6GB RAM.
So, you'll have V30 (64GB/ 4GB RAM), V30S and V30S+.
This overlap between LG V30+ and LG V30S probably is the reason behind the bootloader unlock list fiasco.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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All this makes me wonder if I should wait for the V30+ or consider a Samsung Galaxy S9+??

The S9+ will be more expensive, IIRC.
They have different features and are geared to clients with different tastes. The S9+ does have a 3.5 jack, but not the quality DAC as the V30. It also has Bixby and a Bixby button that is non configurable, which is a wash for me because I would not use either. Camera has been improved. And of course, Samsung has the best OLED screen in the business, though a bit too curved at the edges for my own personal taste. And while the V30 lacks some finesse in its software, Samsung goes overboard a bit with theirs. Home screen-wise, its another wash, as most people slap Nova, Google, or Action Launcher as soon as they buy a droid devise.
Really does depend on what your main use is, besides taking phone calls.
For me, it was about the DAC. Music is a top priority with me. This is one of the reasons I switched from the iPhone to the LG V30.

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, the V30S will have 128GB internal memory and in effect will replace the V30+.
The V30S+ will have 256GB internal storage.
The S variants have 6GB RAM.
So, you'll have V30 (64GB/ 4GB RAM), V30S and V30S+.
This overlap between LG V30+ and LG V30S probably is the reason behind the bootloader unlock list fiasco.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Wolfsbane58 said:
The S9+ will be more expensive, IIRC.
They have different features and are geared to clients with different tastes. The S9+ does have a 3.5 jack, but not the quality DAC as the V30. It also has Bixby and a Bixby button that is non configurable, which is a wash for me because I would not use either. Camera has been improved. And of course, Samsung has the best OLED screen in the business, though a bit too curved at the edges for my own personal taste. And while the V30 lacks some finesse in its software, Samsung goes overboard a bit with theirs. Home screen-wise, its another wash, as most people slap Nova, Google, or Action Launcher as soon as they buy a droid devise.
Really does depend on what your main use is, besides taking phone calls.
For me, it was about the DAC. Music is a top priority with me. This is one of the reasons I switched from the iPhone to the LG V30.
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I too don't like the curved screen on the Galaxy lines and also read that Samsung has gone way overboard with apps. Things like the phone having two clock apps, two calendar apps, and two browser apps.
In somewhat of an order are my phone priorities:
1. Music
3. Screen size (6-inch min)
2. Speed (multi-tasking)
3. Camera quality
4. Build of phone
5. Hackability (unlock bootloader, root & zap bloatware)

I noticed while checking something online tonight that tbe S8+ is also missing from T-Mobile's website. I did get an S9 but I'm also holding onto my V30 sp I'll have JOD payments going on 2 phones. I like both phones. Just wish the V30 came in the blue coral like the S9 I got.

WaxysDargle said:
man, i just bought this phone. this is disconcerting. mine has the blotchy colors and i'm getting a replacement refurb today. this concerns me when it comes to support.
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LG is no longer a company to consider when it comes to support. This is the reason so many people will not even consider purchasing their phones anymore. Slow updates and flawed hardware. The Moto z2 force has had Oreo since January on T-Mobile. And the 2 I've bought, are flawless hardware wise.

20degrees said:
LG is no longer a company to consider when it comes to support. This is the reason so many people will not even consider purchasing their phones anymore. Slow updates and flawed hardware. The Moto z2 force has had Oreo since January on T-Mobile. And the 2 I've bought, are flawless hardware wise.
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yea, i'm kinda thinking i should have considered the moto. got my replacement yesterday and has the same screen issue. i'm pretty convinced that they all have this issue, and some people just aren't noticing. unbelievable that they released this device. there is absolutely no way they didn't know about it. buncha jaggovs.

WaxysDargle said:
yea, i'm kinda thinking i should have considered the moto. got my replacement yesterday and has the same screen issue. i'm pretty convinced that they all have this issue, and some people just aren't noticing. unbelievable that they released this device. there is absolutely no way they didn't know about it. buncha jaggovs.
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LG calls the flaws with their pOLED production, "a characteristic of the manufacturing process", and is not considered a defect. Some screens are definitely worse than others and there are the odd rare perfect panel out there at all brightness settings. The manual LCD test in the engineering menu is your friend. Some of the worst screens have pixel color shifts to the red side in random places across the panel. The two phones I have, aren't perfect, but you don't actually notice any issues unless you go under 10% brightness on a very specific shade of off white or grey. I have had phones that showed uniformity issues upwards of 50% brightness levels, banding at the top and bottom, dull spots, etc. Newere manufacture dates seem to provide a slightly less chance of getting one of the worst screens you will see. The manufacture date is on the side of the box and I would recommend looking for a manufacture date of 12/17 or newer.

jcsww said:
LG calls the flaws with their pOLED production, "a characteristic of the manufacturing process", and is not considered a defect. Some screens are definitely worse than others and there are the odd rare perfect panel out there at all brightness settings. The manual LCD test in the engineering menu is your friend. Some of the worst screens have pixel color shifts to the red side in random places across the panel. The two phones I have, aren't perfect, but you don't actually notice any issues unless you go under 10% brightness on a very specific shade of off white or grey. I have had phones that showed uniformity issues upwards of 50% brightness levels, banding at the top and bottom, dull spots, etc. Newere manufacture dates seem to provide a slightly less chance of getting one of the worst screens you will see. The manufacture date is on the side of the box and I would recommend looking for a manufacture date of 12/17 or newer.
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thanks for the info.
i'm actually hoping that after a few more exchanges Tmobile will just let me move my credit to a worthwhile device. i don't ever want to give LG my money again. $850 is so much to spend on a device. i'm still stunned that they would release the device, knowing it was defective to this extent.

WaxysDargle said:
thanks for the info.
i'm actually hoping that after a few more exchanges Tmobile will just let me move my credit to a worthwhile device. i don't ever want to give LG my money again. $850 is so much to spend on a device. i'm still stunned that they would release the device, knowing it was defective to this extent.
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What the rest of the world calls a defect, LG calls a manufacturing characteristic. That is the problem and it is purely LG trying to brush off their poor quality panels. Best of luck getting something decent. If you go through enough of them, I'm sure T-Mobile will offer you option of moving to a different device.

jcsww said:
What the rest of the world calls a defect, LG calls a manufacturing characteristic. That is the problem and it is purely LG trying to brush off their poor quality panels. Best of luck getting something decent. If you go through enough of them, I'm sure T-Mobile will offer you option of moving to a different device.
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lol so goes the old adage, "it's not a bug, it's a feature".

WaxysDargle said:
lol so goes the old adage, "it's not a bug, it's a feature".
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Exactly! Their OLED TV's suffer from the same issues.

WaxysDargle said:
yea, i'm kinda thinking i should have considered the moto. got my replacement yesterday and has the same screen issue. i'm pretty convinced that they all have this issue, and some people just aren't noticing. unbelievable that they released this device. there is absolutely no way they didn't know about it. buncha jaggovs.
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The Moto is a great device. I never even considered it tbh. I was jumping a device to something cheaper and figured it couldn't hurt to try. Needless to say, for the price, I bought a second. It's an awesome device and the Moto power pack is insane. On top of all that, it's rootable out of the box.

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Samsung vibrant or wait for the Google G2

My Tmo phone is the G1 which i currently have. I loved the phone, rooted and everything but I have a chance to get the Vibrant. I am not sure if i should go ahead and get the Vibrant, or wait for the G2 especially after annoucning the +hspa on it. What would you guys choose if you had this choice(which some of you probably do)
DaSmittyman said:
My Tmo phone is the G1 which i currently have. I loved the phone, rooted and everything but I have a chance to get the Vibrant. I am not sure if i should go ahead and get the Vibrant, or wait for the G2 especially after annoucning the +hspa on it. What would you guys choose if you had this choice(which some of you probably do)
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Cyanogen himself is getting the G2....that will tell you everything you need to know about how dev work will go with it
Personally? I hate 3.7" screens and it's a dealbreaker for me
4's just about perfect, 4.3 would be even better but don't want the EVO or DroidX
When is the G2 supposed to come out?
I would go with the G2. Stock Android you can't go wrong!!!!
sigeltek said:
When is the G2 supposed to come out?
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http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/t-mo...etter-known-as-t-mobile-g2-on-september-29th/
I was looking at it too, since I loved my G1, but I read that it was going to be marketed towards more mainstream users, which to me means it will be cheaper and probably have lower specs. I might be wrong and the specs aren't out yet, so I guess we'll see.
Hard decision.
I see the winner in these categories as follows...
Physical keyboard: G2
Larger screen: Vibrant
Manufacturer: G2
Physical layout: G2
Weight: Vibrant
For me, not wanting to give up my G1's keyboard was a major hangup. But honestly, Swype is so good that I have accepted no keyboard.
As far as development and support, HTC phones are unsurpassed in the Android world.
Screen size for me is the single biggest, and why I opted to get a Vibrant instead of waiting for the G2.
However, I REALLY miss the physical buttons on the G1. They beat capacitive buttons all to pieces.
Physical keyboard immediately means, I won't get it.
ytj87 said:
For me, not wanting to give up my G1's keyboard was a major hangup. But honestly, Swype is so good that I have accepted no keyboard.
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Agreed. Although now, in most situations, I use the Android keyboard
and the voice input. The voice recognition is actually pretty darn good.
For all intensive purposes, I only miss the physical keyboard about 3 seconds per week.
ytj87 said:
As far as development and support, HTC phones are unsurpassed in the Android world.
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I have gone with Samsung more often than not, but my G1 was my first
HTC phone. Samsung never disappointed me in the past, and didn't
disappoint me with the Vibrant.
ytj87 said:
Screen size for me is the single biggest, and why I opted to get a Vibrant instead of waiting for the G2.
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Before the Vibrant, I would have said "whatever" to the screen size diff,
but after having this screen, OMG, my G1 looks tiny.
ytj87 said:
However, I REALLY miss the physical buttons on the G1. They beat capacitive buttons all to pieces.
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I only miss the trackball!!!!! Trying to correct things and move around inside
text was a breeze with that thing. But, I have no issues with the Vibrant's "buttons".
i was thinking that i should sell my vibrant and try to get the g2 but after lookin at the specs it was a big step down from the vibrant.
G2 vibrant
processor: 1ghz snapdragon vs 1ghz hummingbird
screen: 3.7" OLED screen vs. 4.0" SAMOLED
there's some other features that weren't quite up to par against the vibrant. the only reasons i like the g2 is its getting the HSPA+ network and has a track ball pad thing. the only thing wrong with the vibrant right now is it doesn't have a cyanogen rom on it to make it godly.
my fear said:
i was thinking that i should sell my vibrant and try to get the g2 but after lookin at the specs it was a big step down from the vibrant.
G2 vibrant
processor: 1ghz snapdragon vs 1ghz hummingbird
screen: 3.7" OLED screen vs. 4.0" SAMOLED
there's some other features that weren't quite up to par against the vibrant. the only reasons i like the g2 is its getting the HSPA+ network and has a track ball pad thing. the only thing wrong with the vibrant right now is it doesn't have a cyanogen rom on it to make it godly.
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CM6 is in the works (don't ask when) and the G2 isn't using a Snapdragon its using:
So what exactly does the MSM7230 have to offer? We initially labeled it as a budget-Snapdragon since Qualcomm’s press release said it was destined for “mainstream smartphones”, but now it looks like it will offer about the same performance as Samsung’s Hummingbird chip or TI’s OMAP3630.
Based on all the info we can gather the MSM7230 is a 45nm system-on-chip which contains a similar Scorpion CPU as the previous Snapdragon (QSD8x50) matched with an Adreno 205 GPU. The new Adreno 205 offers about 4x the graphics performance of the previous Snapdragon (Adreno 200), which is around the equivalent of a PowerVR SGX535. Support for HSPA+ 14.4 Mbps and HDMI out are other notable features.
The Adreno 205 GPU is also believed to be in the dual-core Qualcomm QSD8672, which first appeared in the HTC Glacier benchmarks that everyone went crazy over. It should offer plenty of power to run all the Gameloft HD titles, but we still expect the GPU inside Samsung’s Hummingbird is a tad faster.
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and to the trackball: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 search for trackball
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Personally I'm not impressed with G2's specs at all. But I know there are many people out there who won't even consider a smartphone without a physical keyboard. I think that's what G2 is targeting at.
If physical keyboard is not a must-have for you, I don't see why you should pick G2 over Vibrant. (you won't get the HSPA+ speed most of the time)
HTC will lose here.
Over the last couple of months a few huge features have come to be standard for any respectable smartphone, and just the fact that the G2 won't have an excellent display is a big enough reason in itself that it will not sell.
It doesn't have any serious ups over the vibrant besides the HSPA+ capability (which we all know is virtually useless at the end of the day), and when you walk into a store, just comparing the displays can be a deal breaker.
They really should have included some things that the vibrant doesn't have... but they didn't.
I'm keeping my Vibrant
nearblack said:
HTC will lose here.
Over the last couple of months a few huge features have come to be standard for any respectable smartphone, and just the fact that the G2 won't have an excellent display is a big enough reason in itself that it will not sell.
It doesn't have any serious ups over the vibrant besides the HSPA+ capability (which we all know is virtually useless at the end of the day), and when you walk into a store, just comparing the displays can be a deal breaker.
They really should have included some things that the vibrant doesn't have... but they didn't.
I'm keeping my Vibrant
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I completely agree. This is poor timing for the G2 to be released with the specs it currently has. With the 3rd Gen Snapdragons supporting 1200 x 800 displays I'm incredibly disappointed it will only have 800 x 480 (same as our vibrant but still not an upgrade)
Also with gingerbread expected to be released anywhere from October to December (wide range I know) why not wait and have it release as the 1st phone with the new UI? Wouldnt that really make it the 2nd generation google phone?
I was expecting more HTC, but maybe after the G2 released we will start hearing some specs on some other awesome new phone scheduled to release in late november/early december.
MilkPudding said:
Personally I'm not impressed with G2's specs at all. But I know there are many people out there who won't even consider a smartphone without a physical keyboard. I think that's what G2 is targeting at.
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I was one of those people. Fortunately my wife wasn't, so I had a chance to try Swype... and I bought myself a Vibrant a few days later.
As someone who has used both phones I would say the Vibrant is still better. Both phones are extremely nice but I don't care for hardware keyboards anymore. The G2 feels just as fast as the Vibrant though since its stock 2.2. The biggest let down is the screen, I can never go back to an LCD screen after that Super AMOLED beauty.
I think at this point it comes down to whether you want the hardware keyboard or not. That is going to be the deciding factor.
speoples20 said:
As someone who has used both phones I would say the Vibrant is still better. Both phones are extremely nice but I don't care for hardware keyboards anymore. The G2 feels just as fast as the Vibrant though since its stock 2.2. The biggest let down is the screen, I can never go back to an LCD screen after that Super AMOLED beauty.
I think at this point it comes down to whether you want the hardware keyboard or not. That is going to be the deciding factor.
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I completely agree with the screen and all that. But I disagree with the hardware keyboard is the point "it comes down..." simply because the G2 is running Stock Android. If the G2 gets fast updates kind of like how the Nexus One got 2.2 so early, then that would be another factor (vs. TouchWiz). In addition, Cyanogen himself said that he was getting the G2
@grantscurrie i'm buying a G2 the day it comes out, FWIW. 1:08 PM Aug 27th via web in reply to grantscurrie Retweeted by 4 people
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/22278518682
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So people and certain devs might go towards his direction if they don't have a Nexus One themselves (or upgrading from a N1) just simply because Cyanogen would be getting one and that he would most likely be putting his #1 priority as the G2 (or Nexus One.. Note: this is my pure speculation).
The Galaxy S is definitely better on terms of hardware without a doubt. With a strong developing community to support the phone, it should pretty much fly on its own.
Edit: People have the option to go with the Epic 4G for their physical keyboard. It's still a Galaxy S phone!
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Edit: People have the option to go with the Epic 4G for their physical keyboard. It's still a Galaxy S phone!
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Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
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Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
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Umm did you forget the sarcasm identifier? The Epic is a cdma phone on sprint. How would you manage to use that on TMO with no problem? You could just as easily get a Droid X and unlock it to TMO...............
nick_karstedt said:
Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
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ROFL
he better have forgotten the sarcasm part...OR ELSE

More proof we're better off with our RAZR...

Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.
To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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gogreenbay07 said:
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.
I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.
IP IHI II IL said:
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.
as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...
robstunner said:
I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.

Considering Upgrading...

AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
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AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
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Battery life is great with jelly bean, easily lasts me 12-16hrs on a full charge, camera is great too.
Trust me for the price it can't be beat.
Quad core, 2gb ram, and it's a high quality made device, it's solid, using glass and other materials, i got rid of my note 2 and went to this, I'm beyond impressed. Do the price ab the bang for your buck you get, it can't be beat
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Also there are camera mods in the dev section that claim to make it better, but honestly it's great for me.
Here a couple pics I just snapped., they might be resized as I used Tapatalk to upload them.
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Here's a direct link, no resizing, it's obvious that the app or the host downgrades or resizes, so check the last picture and the difference or load the last link, just add the H to it and see the clarity vs the app uploaded ones, what are the other phones your interested in?
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Thanks, great looking pictures! Yeah sometimes reviews are early in the development cycle and the phones don't meet expectations.
I wonder if I can get the G for $49, I read that's for new customers only though.
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Thanks, great looking pictures! Yeah sometimes reviews are early in the development cycle and the phones don't meet expectations.
I wonder if I can get the G for $49, I read that's for new customers only though.
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What other phone are you considering?
I'm sure you can, hell I got my note 2 back in early March for 199 and they had the og for 49 then.
So you should have no issues, check amazon wireless, best buy and others, you might be able to get it for less then 50,
About reviews, also remember these phones launched with ics, which is also why I didn't get it from att and opted for the note 2, ics at launch was a big let down ab one of the reasons people have a sour opinion about LG, i did as well, along with there failure to update devices and support then I almost passed on this optimus g, but paid 160 on Craigslist for it and couldn't pass it up, especially once I found out the jelly bean update was available
When it launched I was with sprint ab played with it in store ab thought, wow this is a really fast device
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djfourmoney said:
AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
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I had a infuse and I can tell you from having that phone and the optimus g it's like night and day. The optimus g is the best phone out right now for the money in my opinion. The battery life is phenomenal. You would not be disappointed at all.
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The best camera I've ever owned was the s3, the lg takes some great pictures but it takes some horrible pictures also. The s2 had a great camera also. Im assuming the s4 has a better one. The battery life on the phone is great...... But for how long. Maybe after a year of use it will get ruined and you won't be able to replace it. The S4 would be my pick since it looks like you keep your phones for a while. I got this phone because i replace my phones every 6 months .... Great phone but not sure it will last you 2 year with great battery
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The best camera I've ever owned was the s3, the lg takes some great pictures but it takes some horrible pictures also. The s2 had a great camera also. Im assuming the s4 has a better one. The battery life on the phone is great...... But for how long. Maybe after a year of use it will get ruined and you won't be able to replace it. The S4 would be my pick since it looks like you keep your phones for a while. I got this phone because i replace my phones every 6 months .... Great phone but not sure it will last you 2 year with great battery
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I'd pass on the s4, besides he says he can't spend more than 100 on a phone, so that removes it from the availability list.
Hearing lots of issues with the s4 ,over heating, sluggishness, etc.
I'd wait until the kinks were worked out.
And trust me after handling the Optimus g, my note 2 feels cheap, it creeks, the plastic is cheap, the Optimus g is very well made and solid.
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Lgog is awesome. Only things I do not like are it's not durable, and the camera takes garbage photos in low light. It's fine in direct sunlight, not so much anywhere else.
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Thanks foe the input. Radio Shack has the G for $49, I will handle the phone and see how it feels. The other phones are.
Atrix for use with the laptop dock when I travel and don't need the power of my quad core laptop.
Nokia Lumia 920 or HTC Windows 8x
Main reason for the Windows phones is for the Home Server app. I would love to be able to access the files and upload to my server, I use Windows Home Server 2011.
I like the G because its a powerful phone and the screen is bigger. I don't mind reading on my Infuse and I like the Note(s) because they are a nice compromise over a tablet.
The G is not on the bleeding edge and somewhat disappointing reviews have lead to discount pricing. I got the Infuse for $60 @ Best Buy in mid 2010.
I keep the hardware because it can still be used and its more functional a regular point-n-shoot camera. I plan on goinh lots of video and selling my unused stuff on CL, Ebay and Amazon with the apps available.
I am keeping the price down because I like to travel and don't wanna work any harder than I do. No need to be on the bleeding edge for most things.
Thanks
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I've had my LGOG now for 3 months, I don't like the camera or the heating issues, and theres now way it will get 4.2.2 knowing how ATT is, I'm now getting a HTC One.
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Lgog is awesome. Only things I do not like are it's not durable, and the camera takes garbage photos in low light. It's fine in direct sunlight, not so much anywhere else.
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I have dropped my Infuse only once and it chipped top left edge of the case.
Screen has not one scratch on it.
I tend not to drop my electronics, so durability is not that much of a concern. I also take pictures in the day 98% of the time or with good indoor lighting.
Then hunt for LGOG on sale for $50 on upgrade or so.
Battery:
Seems excellent to me. I have been using it to play my stored music on average from 8-8:30AM until around 6:00 PM, taking several calls throughout the day (average 3-4) and some light internet exploring and I'll see the battery meter running around 65-70% at at the end of my day. It might go down to maybe 60-65% if I run Pandora for about an hour in between (which is usually during my lunch break when I need my dose of AC/DC-like music).
Camera:
Don't really use it much but I do believe that it has improved since I upgraded to JB. I'll need to play around with it a bit more but there is an improvement over when the phone was ICS. Unless you are a really avid photo taker (in which case you'll want a dedicated camera) it will get the job done for those candidly unexpected shots. After all, it's a phone with a camera built into it... not the other way around. My test was doing some before and after shots on my vehicle as I cleaned the paint, polished it and then waxed it up. Under ICS my still shots were somewhat blurry. With JB I can now get shots with which I can compare now. Unfortunately, I deleted these test shots so I'll have to ask you to just take my word on this.

Replacement phone model alternatives?

What model are going to trade for with your recall replacement and what is compatible in your opinion?
I am not thrilled about the glass with this phone (small crack near volume rocker)and many reports in the wild about scratches this early into release. The touch, especially the buttons feel a little less responsive than my not 5 and i swear my internet lags, especially when loading pages (but not positive on that one).
I am not one to complain about performance when each new model is first released. I have been in the game for years and years and think these few complaints with the note 7 may have leaning to pick another phone for my recall replacemt. I do like the note 7 though so tough decision.
Too bad more new phones were released in this unfortunate time
A recall for about 1 out of half a million batteries? That's still better odds than a few grains of peanut in your ice cream (which can kill some people). A new Note 7. With the odds being 1 out of half a million, the odds that the second one is also defective is probably too great to calculate on a 64 bit computer.
LG v20
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If rumors are correct, the Nexus Google Sailfish and Marlin phones are supposed to be released this month. The Marlin apparently has a 5.5" QHD AMOLED screen. Other rumored specs seem similar to the Note 7.
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A recall for about 1 out of half a million batteries? That's still better odds than a few grains of peanut in your ice cream (which can kill some people). A new Note 7. With the odds being 1 out of half a million, the odds that the second one is also defective is probably too great to calculate on a 64 bit computer.
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So your logic is better than the brains in Samsung?
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LG v20
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lmao you wanna go with LG? the company that consistently have quality control issues about GPS not working and overheating issues? Even though they got thousands of cases and refuse to do anything about it? Compared to Samsung where 35 devices have exploded or caught on fire and suspects about a possible 400k affected devices and they doing a full blown 2.5mill recall? ha you're funny and so is loyalty.
I'm a note 7 user and i haven't owned a Samsung device since 2010 which was my first smartphone and one of my best phones ever and since then i've moved onto Oneplus, Nexus etc so i'm not even remotely close to a Sammy fanboy but i'll tell ya what, i've only owned one LG device since back in 2012/2013 i think and it had such crappy GPS performance, literally every single device "Optimsu F7" and LG blew it over like it was nothing and said its not a problem. Now its happening to their LG G5 plus overheating issues. The day that LG told me and thousands of other customers who paid for the F7 that the GPS is functional and nothing is wrong is the day i vowed to never buy another LG device. loyalty is a funny thing and right now Samsung has my objective loyalty of how they're handling this situation.
They only did it because they didn't want to get sued. The voluntary recall was the loop hole for them.
I'll keep my note 7 until they have replacement note 7 in. Mine doesnt get hot from charging or using it. I'll watch it but i agree 35 cases out of how many phones? That's pretty good odds and nothing's flawless.
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My wife and I like our note 7's so much we refuse to trade them for anything except the same device.. So we'll wait until they can do that.
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lmao you wanna go with LG? the company that consistently have quality control issues about GPS not working and overheating issues? Even though they got thousands of cases and refuse to do anything about it? Compared to Samsung where 35 devices have exploded or caught on fire and suspects about a possible 400k affected devices and they doing a full blown 2.5mill recall? ha you're funny and so is loyalty.
I'm a note 7 user and i haven't owned a Samsung device since 2010 which was my first smartphone and one of my best phones ever and since then i've moved onto Oneplus, Nexus etc so i'm not even remotely close to a Sammy fanboy but i'll tell ya what, i've only owned one LG device since back in 2012/2013 i think and it had such crappy GPS performance, literally every single device "Optimsu F7" and LG blew it over like it was nothing and said its not a problem. Now its happening to their LG G5 plus overheating issues. The day that LG told me and thousands of other customers who paid for the F7 that the GPS is functional and nothing is wrong is the day i vowed to never buy another LG device. loyalty is a funny thing and right now Samsung has my objective loyalty of how they're handling this situation.
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Actually I have owned the g3, g4 and v10. They all perforned well, were snappy and i didn't have any of those issues (I thought the g3 was lovely). But I always returned to Samsung because the screens were better for me.
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Went back to my note 4.
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I'll keep my note 7 until they have replacement note 7 in. Mine doesnt get hot from charging or using it. I'll watch it but i agree 35 cases out of how many phones? That's pretty good odds and nothing's flawless.
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Thats what i thonk. Ill keep mine until i can walk i the store and recwive the replacement.
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Thats what i thonk. Ill keep mine until i can walk i the store and recwive the replacement.
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I dpnt trust any carrier that says they will let you use a loaner phone until the corrected version is released. So easy for them to say well thats your phone. You traded your note 7 for that Phone. So enjoy it.
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Dark Jedi said:
I dpnt trust any carrier that says they will let you use a loaner phone until the corrected version is released. So easy for them to say well thats your phone. You traded your note 7 for that Phone. So enjoy it.
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Yes. If i do tun into trouble i will use my old one.
I was excited about the lg v20...until it was announced.
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So no iPhone 7 takers??
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naturecannon said:
What model are going to trade for with your recall replacement and what is compatible in your opinion?
I am not thrilled about the glass with this phone (small crack near volume rocker)and many reports in the wild about scratches this early into release. The touch, especially the buttons feel a little less responsive than my not 5 and i swear my internet lags, especially when loading pages (but not positive on that one).
I am not one to complain about performance when each new model is first released. I have been in the game for years and years and think these few complaints with the note 7 may have leaning to pick another phone for my recall replacemt. I do like the note 7 though so tough decision.
Too bad more new phones were released in this unfortunate time
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I'm straight swapping my existing (non defective) Note 7 for the NIB unit Samsung is going to hand over; whenever they may arrive that is.
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As a long time (since the 2) Note series user, I may be a little biased when I say -
There is no good reason to move away from this generation of the Note.
While I do agree there currently is a noticeable performance lag when certain functions/tasks are carried out; app switching and the recents key being the most prevalent for me. Being software related, it's only a matter of time before any and all performance issues are resolved. Besides, these things are to be expected when adopting the latest and greatest.
Personally, I'm not putting any stock in the devices' (supposed) susceptibility to scratching. To be fair - I am acutely mindful of the how, what, and where my phone is being placed. As such, the device is never in a position to suffer a scratch.
All petty complaints aside, this iteration of the Note is still a vast improvement over the 5.
The way I see it is if you enjoy the device and make use of all that is has to offer - What's the point in abandoning the device for a lesser one? Especially over some silly recall, that probably could have been avoided had these people used the proper, quality, cables to charge the device in the first place.
I'm curious to know what other device(s) you're considering in it's place?
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So no iPhone 7 takers??
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Ha. If I was looking to make all of my headphones obsolete i'd be down for that...lol
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So no iPhone 7 takers??
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Don't think no one wants this lol
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I was excited about the lg v20...until it was announced.
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I was seriously looking into the v20. It's not as nice looking but the phone will most likely be rooted, good cameras, audio, interchangeable battery, IR blaster, can actually use a tempered glass screen protector, hopefully not as much lag as the note 7. Anyone else considering it??

Axon 40 Ultra

Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153​
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
Mackmiller974 said:
They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
AndyYan said:
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
Vivo x70 Pro+ Bootloader Unlock - HOW TO GUIDE
THIS GLITCH HAS BEEN FIXED AS OF MAY 2022. IF YOUR FIRMWARE IS PAST THAT SECURITY LEVEL YOU CAN NOT OPEN THE BOOTLOADER ANYMORE. WARNING! THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE. THIS MIGHT BREAK YOUR DEVICE!!! UNLOCKING...
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
Iluminatus23 said:
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....

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