I guess with it moving more frequently less problem with burn ins right?
DemonSoul said:
I guess with it moving more frequently less problem with burn ins right?
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wrong. AOD is not new. Samsung knows how often it should move.
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wrong. AOD is not new. Samsung knows how often it should move.
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Ho sorry then, its literally my 1st phone with AOD so i don't know what is bad or good for the screen im just scared to get burn in on my screen
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Ho sorry then, its literally my 1st phone with AOD so i don't know what is bad or good for the screen im just scared to get burn in on my screen
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havent seen anyone with burn in from AOD
maik005 said:
havent seen anyone with burn in from AOD
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76083718&postcount=5
room511 said:
My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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this is the thread. literally 4 threads beneath this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/steps-taking-to-prevent-screen-burn-t3771575 Might be something to keep an eye on...
AOD caused burn in on my device.
T-mobile confirmed it. Was able to get a replacement at no charge.
AOD brightness was set to second lowest brightness.
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room511 said:
AOD caused burn in on my device.
T-mobile confirmed it. Was able to get a replacement at no charge.
AOD brightness was set to second lowest brightness.
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But that must habe been a defective unit when it burned in that quick!
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wrong. AOD is not new. Samsung knows how often it should move.
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This.
Many tens of millions of Galaxy S7, S8 and S9 devices have been sold....a couple of threads posted on XDA with AOD burn in issues doesn't mean anything.
There really isn't an issue with burn in caused by AOD. There's no burn in issue at all.
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This.
Many tens of millions of Galaxy S7, S8 and S9 devices have been sold....a couple of threads posted on XDA with AOD burn in issues doesn't mean anything.
There really isn't an issue with burn in caused by AOD. There's no burn in issue at all.
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It was an issue for me. [emoji3]
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It was an issue for me. [emoji3]
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're the exception to that rule. And having a one off or even two compared to the tens of million devices that are sold with zero burn in issues, should not be of a warning to any potential customers. The possibility of it happening is there but not anywhere close to a problem as it's being made out to be..
It's like the whole note 7 BS.. If you ask any random person about what they know happened with note 7s and they will tell you that majority of note 7s were blowing up and Samsung was forced to recall.. When in reality there was something like a total of 7 devices that actually had a legitimate issue caused by batteries and they voluntarily recalled all phones to avoid the very issue that they ended up in, which is people having a jaded view with their phones and thinking it will blow up..
The AOD burn in issue was really addressed a couple generations back when they started becoming standard where they would start having the AOD move around slightly, and ive noticed my s7e jumps all over the place now.. Also they pushed out updates so that the AOD was alot dimmer in most situations and even eliminated the brightness adjustment to the AOD on my s7e. After all of that, Samsungs put alot time to mitigate the burn in issues with not just the AOD but other situations with their screens.
And let's be honest with each other, having a 1 in a million case of screen burn in is hardly anything to even think about..
I totally agree with you mate.
I truly believe that my device was defective and is definitely not the norm.
It's just something people should be aware of that's all.
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I also am worried about it to an extent, but more in the sense that I hope I dont have a defective unit, since there are safeguards put their by Samsung and really all OEMs using OLEDs, at least at this time, now they do.. Google had to up their software game to fix the pixel 2xl burn in issues, which after the pushed those updates, it seemed to mitigate the majority of issues..
And no matter what, OLEDs are susceptible to this issue and leaving the image on the screen, or even ones that are causing the same individual LEDs to stay on at all times, I think can be a guarantee to obtain screen burn in. But it's almost like the situations have to be just right to cause burn in, like max brightness, still images for extended periods and possibly even a software bug that's causing the provided safeguards to fail..
I can certainly see YouTube to cause burn in, among other apps as well, especially if you watch continuous hours of YouTube with that white background glaring.. Oh great, now I'm going to be stuck in the landscape life making sure I don't get burn in while watching vids.
6 months and I had properly burnt my S7e screen (satnav in car). A OLED screens burn, it's a fact of life.
My original T-Mobile S9+ had burn in 4 days in. Must have had a bad batch.
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Pottsy said:
6 months and I had properly burnt my S7e screen (satnav in car). A OLED screens burn, it's a fact of life.
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So some elements that stays the same for hours and max outdoor screen brightness...
Sorry but it is still AMOLED. I don't think that any AMOLED will survive that without marks...
why no one answey that simple question?
Anyway of forcing AOD to move more frequently?
Still waiting for a direct and clear answer...
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Is anyone else worried about the burn in problems like the original moled had? My vibrant had it bad... Please don't tell me its not an issue with the original sgs screens, type in google and you will see a lot of complaints on this topic, and my screen is burn in galore. Just wondering if this new screen will suffer from similar problems or if samsung recognized and corrected this issue?
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I have burn in on my nexus one right now. Status bar is burnt in, and the keyboard is burnt in. Yes the galaxy s2 will likely do it too.
RogerPodacter said:
I have burn in on my nexus one right now. Status bar is burnt in, and the keyboard is burnt in. Yes the galaxy s2 will likely do it too.
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Wow, really? I got my Desire (AMOLED) for more than a year now and I can't notice anything.
Zero burn-in after a year's heavy use of my SGS1 - just leave the no activity timeout to 5 minutes or less and you'll be fine.
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Wow, really? I got my Desire (AMOLED) for more than a year now and I can't notice anything.
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I had burn in after the first month of my nexus. About all people have it, you just haven't noticed it yet.
I see two possibilities here. Some people notice it more, some people based on their usage suffer from it more. I got the N1 when it released for AT&T, dont remember when exactly that was, somewhat more than a year? I'm just now getting to where I notice some burn in but it seems slight to me, not an issue now. Dont know which way I fall in my first observation but I can say that given enough time I think that most people will notice some burn in, how much time, I dont know. I suppose the bottom line is how how much time you spend with a device and will you move on before you get to where burn in becomes an issue to you with your usage. Thats a tough question to answer.
Nine times out of ten burn in on a mobile would be from the status bar. So if you're worried just download and use Go Launcher and set the slide up gesture to hide and show it.
That's interesting people with lcd displays have burn in as well... Well my status bar is permanently there, half the icons on my desktop are also burnt in, had my vibrant since it first came out, its set to 30 sec timeout and auto bright. So do amoled displays just have it worse or is it about the same?
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I was very excited by the Smart Stay feature of SGSIII but after a few days, experience, my opinion is that it does not work. I set the timeout to 15 sec. The eye flashes in the notification bar but most of the time screen is turned off. I tried staring directly at the front camera. Tried various positions too but no result. And all this is done in a normal lit room. Then I tried removing my specs and then it seems to work. Since I can't do much without them, so no fixed observation. Can anybody help?
do you wear glasses?
defia said:
do you wear glasses?
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Yes
Mine works even with glasses on
Toadeh said:
Mine works even with glasses on
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Any particular setting? Or particular angle at which you keep your phone? Mine for sure does not work. The eye flashes but then the screen is also turned off.
I have the same issue too. Does anyone know the issue and how to overcome it? Thanks
I get mixed results with it. It works under ideal conditions but I had to extend the dim period to use it in everyday use.
The icon appears to show that the phone is checking for a face and not confirming it saw one. I see it flash even when looking from an angle where I'm definitely out of the camera frame.
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do you wear glasses?
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Me and a friend we bought s3 and both of us having an issue with smart stay !It works after you open the device for the 15-30 minutes and after that nothing,after the eye appears the screen goes off!We are not wearing glasses!!So any idea what cause that?A possible bug of it?Or any future update will fix it?
you guys running on XXfl2 or whatever it is?
smart stay works really well for me, never has an issue, even at acute angles
It never works for me.
Then again... I'm way to ugly for my phone to stay with me.
Smartphone's R getting to smart I guess.
Works great for me too...
Samsung already stated they are working on improving the feature as it is not yet capable of handling some light conditions, and most glasses.
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Works fine for me with glasses, as long as the phone's front camera is pointing right at me.
The flashing eye means its searching for a face; the only indication that it has recognised you is that the screen doesn't turn off.
Same issue!
Yup, facing the same problem. Keep staring at the screen for hours for the damn thing to work. But it just wont. I have tried with my glasses off. Got the same result. The eye appears on the screen twice. The first time it dims the screen, the second time it shuts it off. I have tried different angles, but have finally resigned to my fate, unless XDA/Sammy figure it out!
not working for me 2
I am not wearing any glasses but it simply dont wok tried to change the angels but no luck ... hope it need improvement. This was the main reason to purchase the s3 but....
Mine works quite well, feels like its abit of a battery drain though.
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For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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It needs to be a nice distance from your face to pick up your eyes, light is an issue too.
Its a nice feature that has some obvious issues on a 1.X MP camera.
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For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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Samsung patented this feature so i guess the app dev is in a bit of danger unless he is not really rich.
Other apps wont be as good either, as smart stay was made with this hardware in mind (namely the camera). Others will have to bend and shape to fit multiple cameras, making detection algorithms not as strong.
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Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
Considering the v10 uses LCD, not OLED or AMOLED....no
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But why can I see whatsapp text entry bar thing on the grey background. And also the home/back buttons etc
LCD does not burn in. I don't know what you could be seeing, but it seems very highly unlikely.
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aniqpirzada said:
Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
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i have the same issue. i dont know what to do. it has some kind of image retention issue. after that i also noticed a lot of deas pixels.
davidcastyalexandra said:
i have the same issue. i dont know what to do. it has some kind of image retention issue. after that i also noticed a lot of deas pixels.
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mines seemed to fix itself
aniqpirzada said:
Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
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I've had this problem for a few days about 2 weeks ago, I could still see AT&T in the top corner. It did look like it was burned in but I knew it wasn't since it's LCD so I didn't worry about it too much. It randomly fixed itself. I wonder what caused it.
I have the same exact problem. And it heals itself but 5 mins of whatsapp use and there it is again. It is so annoying. I m thinking of returning it!
I would suggest to get rid of what's app. That seems to be the common cause for the majority here. Could be what's app is bad app to run on V10
If you dont call this a screen burn then what is it:
http://imgur.com/a/zQWIR
After 3hrs of wave navigation
Grey background to show effect
This won't be too helpful since I can't remember for sure what I was looking at when it happened but...
Earlier today I noticed that my keyboard was showing "in the background" of an app as though it was burned in.
It was definitely strange looking.
I think it was the weather channel app (which had no need for a keyboard popup) yet it almost looked like the app was transparent with the keyboard behind it.
It's definitely not doing it now but it was really weird looking!
Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
Guys please relax that's just image retention as far as LCDs are the topic. Unless if you stay at the same thing for like 5 hours (this [might] cause a permanent retention i guess).
the only thing that is prone to burn ins are OLED screens. And burn ins are permanent... because they are a burn.
LCDs only retain images because the crystals in their display tends to stay at the same position they are in after a long period of use but this doesn't actually produce damage and doesn't stay permanently. Once the display changes (either turned off or a different thing is displayed) they would eventually return to their normal state and work just fine.
Interesting. I wasn't really "unrelaxed" though... Just never saw it before so I figured I'd share my experience.
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I just noticed a burn-in, or some kind of image retention. I accidentally left my phone on all night while sleeping and the next morning there was a burn in on the top of the screen. It's only noticible when I pull down the notification bar because it's gray. I can only see it in the gray. The whole status bar is burned-in. It has been gradually dissipating. I also noticed a little bit of this when I used Waze for a long road trip a couple weeks ago, but it wasn't as severe of a burn in. At least it is disappearing slowly.
SuhasTheBest said:
I just noticed a burn-in, or some kind of image retention. I accidentally left my phone on all night while sleeping and the next morning there was a burn in on the top of the screen. It's only noticible when I pull down the notification bar because it's gray. I can only see it in the gray. The whole status bar is burned-in. It has been gradually dissipating. I also noticed a little bit of this when I used Waze for a long road trip a couple weeks ago, but it wasn't as severe of a burn in. At least it is disappearing slowly.
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Same happened to me today. Slept through an amber alert that caused my screen to stay on. When i woke up my phone was off and hot to the touch. Switched batteries and noticed after powering on the amber alert was still faintly visible in the backgound. After about 10 minutes of screen use it gradually faded away.
LG V10 From TMobile Image Burn !
My LG V10 Its Haves A Problem When Im Waching Netflix At My V10 I Can See The V10 Google Search Bar Like In The Back Of The Screen Can This Be Fix ??? Help Please And At The Main Screen I Can See Like Logo Of Things Im Not Using ???
rvnlvrz said:
Guys please relax that's just image retention as far as LCDs are the topic. Unless if you stay at the same thing for like 5 hours (this [might] cause a permanent retention i guess).
the only thing that is prone to burn ins are OLED screens. And burn ins are permanent... because they are a burn.
LCDs only retain images because the crystals in their display tends to stay at the same position they are in after a long period of use but this doesn't actually produce damage and doesn't stay permanently. Once the display changes (either turned off or a different thing is displayed) they would eventually return to their normal state and work just fine.
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Apparently officially termed "image persistence". Your post recreates a lot of the language from that article. Yeah, LCDs don't burn-in so this topic seemed rather odd to me. What could start showing up is the "dynamic contrast" done with LED backlights to LCDs burning-in; the fact that I've never heard any reports may mean it is uncommon, but I'm cringing at it happening in the future.
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Apparently officially termed "image persistence". Your post recreates a lot of the language from that article. Yeah, LCDs don't burn-in so this topic seemed rather odd to me. What could start showing up is the "dynamic contrast" done with LED backlights to LCDs burning-in; the fact that I've never heard any reports may mean it is uncommon, but I'm cringing at it happening in the future.
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Or image retention. It does go away though. Maybe a bad batch too? I drive from Ohio to Orlando, FL with Google maps on the entire time and bendy had a retention issue. All the ones with the issue also said the screen was hot. Corks that be a factor?
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I have had my V10 since December (from T-Mobile). Initially no problems to report, but the image retention issue has become progressively worse (as I type this, the image of this site is being temporarily "burned in"). my father also got a V10 the same day, but does not report this issue. User activity may be leading to a faster declining lifespan of phone, but both phones have had a drastic increase in overheating since receiving the Marshmallow update, which may also be playing a role in the even greater amounts of image retention (a single game of candy crush leaves a residual image).
I'm 19, so like most millennials, I use my phone constantly which is possibly why I have this issue, but it is unfortunate to think there's a chance my phone is slowly dying from general use.
same issue with my v10 (bought a month back)
i think my culprit is Deer hunter 2016...as its the only game i play& only notice it more once i have played it.. i have also seen that if i keep my phone off during the night.. it usually goes away.. while if my phone is ON (standyby) during the night.. it stays. i didnt turned my phone off for the past 2 nights & the burn is pretty much there as you can see. my phone is an ATT v10 h900 on lollypop.. any suggestion will be appreciated.
Hello, recently i sent my phone to warranty because of serious screen burn in issues, they replaced my sceen, which had more light bleeding issues, but i wouldnt mind that, as the burn-ins were gone, but to my surprise, yesterday after about 3hrs of constant on screen texting in whatsapp, the burn-in started appearing on the new screen, i am seriously pissed off, i really like this phone overall with the features it offers and so on, but the quality control... Wtf LG.. I now have bought a phone which i should just send for warranty repairs after a period of time?
Just wanted to share my experience with you, i still have a gpad 8.3 thats is still rolling on the latest 7.1.1 and has no quality issues and a robust metal build whatsoever, but this is just annoying...
Im sorry to hear about your issues with g5. Its a great device, whats wrong with your screen? Light bleeding whad do this mean?
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...Just wanted to share my experience with you,..
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If you want to do something for us, try to use the search engine first until you start a new thread!
There are a lot of threads around here which has described screen ghosting on LG devices!!!
See here:
1.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/lg-g5-screen-ghosting-burn-problem-t3545769
2.) (German) ->http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/displayflecken-nach-langem-aktiv-sein.790992/page-3
3.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/panel-vs-panel-series-t3480270
4.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/help/ghost-images-screen-image-retention-t3395732
5.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/screen-ghosting-lg-g4-t3451879
YOU are not alone!
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If you want to do something for us, try to use the search engine first until you start a new thread!
There are a lot of threads around here which has described screen ghosting on LG devices!!!
See here:
1.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/lg-g5-screen-ghosting-burn-problem-t3545769
2.) (German) ->http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/displayflecken-nach-langem-aktiv-sein.790992/page-3
3.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/panel-vs-panel-series-t3480270
4.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/help/ghost-images-screen-image-retention-t3395732
5.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/screen-ghosting-lg-g4-t3451879
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Dont you think i am aware of this? How does it help me? I have wrote ot in threads before and i write it again, this one was about the same thing happening even after warranty repair, and the cause is a faulty panel, i am sharing my warranty experience, i dont really understand why would you post these links? How is this helpful?
i think it would be interesting for all of us to know the period when it started to happen for the first time and then when exactly after the replacement?
I for myself got the screen replaced about 2 month ago having the screen burn issue as well. Phone IME starts with 604. Since the replacement no issue for me so far..but i am not so sure if it the problem is solved with that and the screen burn in starts again after a while again......
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Dont you think i am aware of this? How does it help me? I have wrote ot in threads before and i write it again, this one was about the same thing happening even after warranty repair, and the cause is a faulty panel, i am sharing my warranty experience, i dont really understand why would you post these links? How is this helpful?
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aking007 said:
i think it would be interesting for all of us to know the period when it started to happen for the first time and then when exactly after the replacement?
I for myself got the screen replaced about 2 month ago having the screen burn issue as well. Phone IME starts with 604. Since the replacement no issue for me so far..but i am not so sure if it the problem is solved with that and the screen burn in starts again after a while again......
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Its indeed interesting as it really seems to not appear at the beginning, and once it shows up it starts to get more noticable over time, for example as i said, it occured after heavy using whats app for about 3hrs most of the time with auto brightness sometimes hitting the highest levels, right now i can notice the burn in, but its not at levels where it would become disturbing, ill see how it goes, if it progresses and so on..
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Dont you think i am aware of this?
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No, it was not visible for me reading your post, that you have get all informations about LG display issue.
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i don't really understand why would you post these links
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i want to be sure, that you can see, that this is no individual case!
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How is this helpful?
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If you had read all of my linked threads, you should know...
...many people has this problem with different LG devices...
... it was recognized at LG G5 phones produced between march and jun. 2016 (see serial number starting with 604 up to 606)...
... there seems to be a new display without ghosting but with a little more power consumption recognized since serial number 609...
... it makes no difference witch country code your device was! all displays could be affected!
...that some users have installed "sFilter BlueLight" app to prevent this issue!
...as some users reports,it is not granted, that this issue never returns on changed displays because it seems to be a general fault...
Maybe that all this informations does not help to solve YOUR problem, but this is a forum for questions and answers ant i thought, that this informations could be helpful to know. But as it looks like,it seems that this will be for other users only!
So if you feel disturbed of me, feel free to set me to first position in top of your ignore list!
and at least: see my signature at 3.!
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No, it was not visible for me reading your post, that you have get all informations about LG display issue.
i want to be sure, that you can see, that this is no individual case!
WITH
If you had read all of my linked threads, you should know...
...many people has this problem with different LG devices...
... it was recognized at LG G5 phones produced between march and Jjund 2016 (see serial number starting with 604 up to 606)...
... there seems to be a new display without ghosting but with a little more power consumption recognized since serial number 609...
... it makes no difference witch country code your device was! all displays could be affected!
...that some users have installed "sFilter BlueLight" app to prevent this issue!
Maybe that all this informations does not help to solve YOUR problem, but this is a forum for questions and answers ant i thought, that this informations could be helpful to know. Maybe only for other ons only!
So if you feel disturbed of me, feel free to set me to first position in top of your ignore list!
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Sorry, but to me the reply seemed non-friendly, as it would be addressed to a rookie user, who hasnt done his research, maybe im wrong about your post...
But overall, yes i have seen all those threads, and unfortunatley, as i have mentioned in some other LCD display threads, the app could basically be a temp fix for the issue, when its not at a disturbing level, as its a cause of a faulty panel.
At this point where my panel has been already replaced, i cant really keep track of its model.
Gmobilize said:
Sorry, but to me the reply seemed non-friendly, as it would be addressed to a rookie user, who hasnt done his research, maybe im wrong about your post...
But overall, yes i have seen all those threads, and unfortunatley, as i have mentioned in some other LCD display threads, the app could basically be a temp fix for the issue, when its not at a disturbing level, as its a cause of a faulty panel.
At this point where my panel has been already replaced, i cant really keep track of its model.
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Okay so lets go through this together.
A burn-in only happens with amoleds as this is permanent. We have LCD panels so we have image retention which is non-permanent.
A LCD is a liquid crystal display. Means you have a certain state of the crystals. When you apply a voltage the crystals rearrange themselves and block light. This is why we need a background illumination. Anyway once you use it for a longer period with a semi-static or a static picture (like whatsapp typing bar, google maps info boxes, keyboards etc) the crystals start to shift in their relaxed form towards another state. Blue light is due to its short wavelength energy consuming -> high voltage applied -> faster image retention.
That's why blue light filters do work to some extent. (With cf lumen and root you can adjust to use less blue instead of having an overlay draining additional energy)
This liquid crystal thingie is dependent on a lot of different parameters, that's why some get it faster and some slower. My 1,5k$ thinkpad has the same issue with the navigation bar being a persisting image after 10h+ of browsing.
TLR
So this is actually not a warranty issue. LG also returned phones unrepaired as this is the negative side of a lcd and considered standard behaviour. Go for an AMOLED the next time as they can't suffer from this, but once you have image burn-in you will never get rid of it. So doesn't really make a difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence (helpful for that burn in issue which a lot of people seem to get wrong)
Cheers
lolmensch said:
Okay so lets go through this together.
A burn-in only happens with amoleds as this is permanent. We have LCD panels so we have image retention which is non-permanent.
A LCD is a liquid crystal display. Means you have a certain state of the crystals. When you apply a voltage the crystals rearrange themselves and block light. This is why we need a background illumination. Anyway once you use it for a longer period with a semi-static or a static picture (like whatsapp typing bar, google maps info boxes, keyboards etc) the crystals start to shift in their relaxed form towards another state. Blue light is due to its short wavelength energy consuming -> high voltage applied -> faster image retention.
That's why blue light filters do work to some extent. (With cf lumen and root you can adjust to use less blue instead of having an overlay draining additional energy)
This liquid crystal thingie is dependent on a lot of different parameters, that's why some get it faster and some slower. My 1,5k$ thinkpad has the same issue with the navigation bar being a persisting image after 10h+ of browsing.
TLR
So this is actually not a warranty issue. LG also returned phones unrepaired as this is the negative side of a lcd and considered standard behaviour. Go for an AMOLED the next time as they can't suffer from this, but once you have image burn-in you will never get rid of it. So doesn't really make a difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence (helpful for that burn in issue which a lot of people seem to get wrong)
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Thanks for the interesting article on LCD artifacts, however, i wanted to say some things:
As my for my first panel, that got replaced, image retention was pretty hard, as when the phone got warmer, it became really disturbing and barely usable as the keyboard and status bar started to ghost on grey background apps such as xda, the only way was to let it cool down and wait till everything disappears, as soon as i started using my phone a bit longer, the problem resurfaced very quick. So it clearly wasnt a normal reaction. Just to add, no CF.lumen like apps were able to help back then.
My current replaced panel is showing only minor signs of this, it becomes more apparent on longer usage times with the same elements and the ghosting is barely visible with not so intense usage, so i hope that this wont eventually get stronger as before. As it would seem to be a natural usage reaction, i still consider this an issue however, cause none of my previous LCD phone had anything like it, not even my LG Gpad 8.3. So im gonna try to apply warranty again if needed, as repair services seem to be pretty helpful in my country at least, as long as they have spare panels in stock.
And about amoled, i think ill pass that for a while, i have seen enough samsung demo units in stores have serious homescreen burn-ins.
With LG G5 the quality really seems to be an issue, yes there maybe lucky people with good units and so, but overall it is pretty disappointing, as feature and hardware wise i really love this device.
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I see the so called expert stopped responding like a retard. I had the same problem I just lgup and flashed stock all over again about 4 times and it started to show improvements. As of now I got rid of the burnt images on my lcd
Screen burn is a problem on AMOLED Displays. After 9 months my S8 had significant burn in due mainly to gaming activities. I don't enable AOD and limit screen time on to 30 seconds. What other measures can be taken to help save the beautiful display on your S9 device?
Use lower screen brightness. I try to use 50% or less depending on environment and my GS7 didn't run into any issues with screen burn-in.
... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
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... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
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Burn is inevitable with AMOLED, but newer phones seem more susceptible to it. I never had LED burn problems until migrating to the S6. Also, white backgrounds such as on YouTube tend to be the most damaging, because white color is made using all RGB pixels at once.
My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Just don't use the phone at maximum brightness for prolonged period and you'll be good. Never had burn ins on my S4 and S7, at least not yet, screens are still perfect to this day. I rarely set the brightness above 50%.
None.
If it happens I'll return it and get a new one. I use the device as intended.
I set full immersive mode globally using adb, AOD is off, screen brightness on auto but kept below 50% as much as possible, screen timeout is set to 1 minute. I don't play games more than 10-15 mins usually and I try to move 100% of whatever is being displayed on the screen after 30 seconds to 1 minute (even if I have to turn the screen off and back on to accomplish that).
A bit much, I know. But I had a Galaxy S4 back in the day using the screen very moderately, and within 3 months it had terrible blue burn in from the status bar and icons on the home screen Im guessing...
Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
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Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
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I use my device as I see fit. Not taking much in preventative for burn. More towards batt life. I have never really burned any device. My wife's s5 had Facebook burned in pretty good. I used aod for several hours at night. But it's been great on every Sammy device I ever owned
Way out of proportion. I mean any static image can and will eventually burn to a oled. But I'm sure I'll have a new device before it ever gets as bad as a several year old s3 s4
Well, first thing I'm doing is NOT using a dark theme. (With totally black portions). I found that using such a theme will create uneven screen wear (burn in) , because there's portions of the screen that just wont be affected, like for example think the YouTube app's video portion.
Everything I can...
This is my third Samsung with AMOLED. The first was a Note 2. I started playing a geo-location game that needed to have the screen on to get credit for moving around. So it ran for hours each day. Annoyingly it has a bright green box in the upper right (it's a button you use all the time), and it got burned into my display within a few months. When I got my next phone (Note 4), I took every precaution. I ran an app every night, all night long that cycles through all the colors, full screen, to aid in preventing it. I tried to mostly use my geo-location game at night with the screen brightness turned almost all the way down. It helped a lot. I went over 2 years before screen burn in started appearing. I think I made a mistake with the overnight app. I had the brightness turned way way down when perhaps I should have turned it up instead. I changed that and the burn in faded out for a few more months, but I would notice it whenever I used the game outside during the day (hiking and such), because I had to turn the brightness up to see the screen. Now it no longer fades and is every present on my screen. The phone is almost 3 years of use at this point though.
My last step I have been doing is using one-handed mode to change where that button shows up on the screen. I figure if I can prevent it from sitting in the same place all the time, it will go a long way to preventing the burn in.
Feedback from many different viewpoints is good. However it sounds like some people are saying 'screen burn in is no big deal. I've never had it'. Just because it hasn't been a problem for you, doesn't mean it's not real for other people or that's it's blown out of proportion. We all use our phones differently.
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My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Agreed.
It is what it is though.
Haven't turned it on once with my new phone.
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I think that for the typical phone user, the only place burn-in is likely to be a significant issue is on the status bar, and maybe the nav bar. The S9 is my first AMOLED phone with soft buttons instead of Samsung's capacitive buttons, but the only place I've ever noticed any burn in before is on the status bar, and really, who cares about that?
If, OTOH, you frequently keep the screen on for long periods using an app with fixed in place, high-contrast items, there's probably not a lot you can do beyond reducing screen brightness. If the app allows any customization of those items, like changing colors, try to make them less bright.
Well.. having owned a few devices with AMOLED/OLED displays(S2, S3, S6, S8+, S9+), all those devices had burn ins, some worse than others.
Since the S8+, I made a habit to not max out the brightness(I'd go 100% manual on all my previous devices before S8+), l left it on auto brightness, and if I figure that it had gone too bright, I'd move the slider back to 40~50%. And also hide the navigation bar. While web browsing, I hide the status bar too. Throughout the one year of using S8+, I'm happy with how it was holding up. And continued with these habits on my current S9+. Won't say that those are compromises to the experience, if anything it's even better, with hiding the navigation bar and status, it gives it more immersive experience while protecting the display.