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Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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iflip said:
Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
Absolute_Zero said:
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
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I might be wrong, but I thought there was already a 5" samsung on ATT. If so I would agree you better try holding up to your ear and putting in your pocket before you sink money into buying it. Trying it there right now would be a good sign whether you should forget about buying it whenever it comes to verizon.
I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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Ha im 6ft5.5
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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lol I call bull****
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I didn't "choose" to come to a Thunderbolt. I wanted a Samsung Charge, but couldn't find one to trade my iPhone for, so I SETTLED for the Thunderbolt. Believe me, I wouldn't be on this thing if I didn't have to be.
ibsk8 said:
Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Lol. U guys are a trip. I'm 6"2 but I do feel like my thunderbolt is kinda adequately sized. But I'm a photographer, I like to view my images on something other than my camera when I'm nowhere near my imac. I don't own a laptop. And the tablet market has not caught up with the multimedia market yet. But I'm aware some phones and tablets have usb hosting mode. So a phone/tablet would be ideal. 5.3" screen would be an adequate in-between size for tablet and phone use imo. But the idea of usb host is what would sell me on something like that. It may not even be a possibility for that matter so... Well just have to wait n see.
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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Originally Posted by ibsk8
Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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He would make an awesome sumo wrestler at that height/weight.
loonatik78 said:
More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
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I have to use an AT&T phone for work so I chose the Atrix...it's pretty decent since it got updated to 2.3.4 but the UI is absolute garbage. It's snappy like I want it to be, but you are exactly right about the colors on the screen being incredibly muted. At the end of the day though I am quite happy to switch to my bolt.
I have been a bit curious about the Bionic that seems like it may actually be coming out soon-ish. If they did something about the terrible color quality it could potentially be worth looking into. My wife just got a Droid 3 because she refuses to have a phone without a physical keyboard...it's not terrible. Haven't played with it too much, but from what I have played with I wasn't too disappointed with.
I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Sorry man... I'm just gonna have to disagree with you on the whole Motorola build quality thing. I've gone though so many of those phone it's not even funny. The electronics and radios they use are garbage. My dad had a thing for Motorola for some ungodly reason and had these things laying around all over the place. Every time I activated one to give to someone it either buzzed so loud you couldn't hear anything, the mic would just randomly die, the controls didn't work/respond, the displays looked like crap, and without a single exception, NONE of them had a radio in them worth a damn. I couldn't even call into customer service to complain because the POS wouldn't work on the switchboard! Totally and completely worthless devices that couldn't so much as hold a signal to receive a text while I'd be on my Samsung chatting away. They sold those POS Razr's like crack to addicts, but they were garbage! Now my buddy has a DX that flips on and off, hangs up in calls, just stops responding, and goes and does stuff all by itself. Surprised? I wasn't. Pretty par for the course given what I've seen Motorola crank out for the last 6 years. I told the last guy who tried selling me on a Motorola that he'd have an easier time selling condoms in a convent. It's not often I hate on a product or company this much, but honestly, if they were giving Bionics away for free I STILL wouldn't activate one on one of my lines.
I just got a new Tab 10.1 for Christmas (actually got it the 23rd) and I have to say I am a bit disappointed with it.
I am on vacation for three weeks so I have been on the tab pretty much constantly since the 23rd trying to personalize it and get it working as I believe it should.
Now don't misinterpret my post here, I'm not bashing it, I love everything Android, I'm just trying to understand what others are experiencing and maybe learn what I can do to make mine better.... I've read and read on this forum and already done several tips, tricks and other things that I would have assumed would have improved the device but so far it's still the same.
My biggest disappointment is video..... My phone plays everything I go watch with no lag or trouble... but This Tab will only play You-Tube videos.
If I go to a website it either tells me I need a plug-in (which is already installed)
or it does nothing and just gives me a black box where the video would be...
I've tried a bunch of different browsers: FireFox, Opera, Dolphin, even the built in android browser and they all do it.
I've reinstalled flash several times and updated it and still I only have video in You tube.
I have the hardest time getting apps to D/L from the market...I keep getting a no connection pop up. I'm using several other devices at the same time and they dont drop connection constantly so it gotta be something with the Tab itself.
Another thing that is kinda bugging me is all the lag in the screen and with the keyboard.... Everything moves kinda choppy or just is very slow to respond.
I did manage to D/L another keyboard which seems to be better.
I thought if I rooted it and got the bloatware off it would improve it but I can't see any improvement overall and it is disappointing...
So guys, what am I doing wrong with this thing? I'd love to be able to use it to watch news, play music and reply to the text and emails I get on my cell with the larger interface but I can't see that happening with how she's running at the present.
My cell does all of the above flawlessly running Cyanogen 7 on 2.3.7 so I'm wondering if I just need to get away from the stock rom or something...I've done everything else I can think of.
What do you all think, Thanks
Hey I bought a 4g version yesterday BNIB for 350 cnd off kijiji to replace my hp touchpad running cyanogenmod 7. It is no where near half the machine my hp was its already back on kijiji looking for trades maybe a asus... im on official 3.2 and it lags like crazy, fc's all the time and ive had to hard restart twice. no ports excepts the proprietary, terrible speaker placement and sound (compared to my hp **** even my sgs2) + barely no dev for the 4g version I dont understand why anyone would want this thing. feel free to flame this post but give facts to back it.
I actually used to love this device but now that i just look at it...its pretty bad build quality and software...the software can be taken care of but COME ON SAMSUNG...USE METAL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
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I actually used to love this device but now that i just look at it...its pretty bad build quality and software...the software can be taken care of but COME ON SAMSUNG...USE METAL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
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Apparently you haven't read anything about the transformer prime's wireless and gps problems....
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Apparently you haven't read anything about the transformer prime's wireless and gps problems....
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they fixed the wifi right?...yeah i know gps is screwed up.
samsung is a pretty smart company..they can figure it out...i have faith..one day...they will use metal
I only have the Wi-Fi version and I payed $175 Cnd for it from a friend and I'm more then happy with it , never had problems with it playing videos on stock but I did find the sensitivity on stock was pretty bad but since I switched to task's rom it's much better there's an app to I believe to help with this issue I'm not sure of the name of it though. I've never ran into that browser plug in problem either.
As far as metal, really use metal? Personally I like the plastic it's lighter and I use the Pyroskins 360 case and never see the back of the case anyway, awesome case btw for the price. Overall for what I paid for this tab it's awesome but if I had to pay retail $499 Cdn for it my opinion may have been different.
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I only have the Wi-Fi version and I payed $175 Cnd for it from a friend and I'm more then happy with it , never had problems with it playing videos on stock but I did find the sensitivity on stock was pretty bad but since I switched to task's rom it's much better there's an app to I believe to help with this issue I'm not sure of the name of it though. I've never ran into that browser plug in problem either.
As far as metal, really use metal? Personally I like the plastic it's lighter and I use the Pyroskins 360 case and never see the back of the case anyway, awesome case btw for the price. Overall for what I paid for this tab it's awesome but if I had to pay retail $499 Cdn for it my opinion may have been different.
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for that price i would be perfectly happy!!
just $500 for poor quality?
BTW when i say metal...i just mean not flimsy plastic.
ezcats said:
for that price i would be perfectly happy!!
just $500 for poor quality?
BTW when i say metal...i just mean not flimsy plastic.
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Yea but Samsung is notorious for using thin plastic, Original Galaxy S phone, Galaxy S II ext all plastic.
I understand the plastic is not hard as a rock , its thin , its light and really is just good for keeping the dust out, protection is very minimal. Once it's in a case you add another layer of plastic on the back for protection anyway and you can no longer see what its made of and the case doubles as a stand , win win and problem solved.
I'm not sure why Samsung never uses an all aluminum case , could be cost, patent problems or could be heat issues, the tab does tend to get pretty warm sometimes I find in the upper left hand corner area and if your using metal that heat could spread.
I have the Verizon LTE version and can't live without it. Simply love this thing despite the issues people describe. On 3.2 with pershoots kernel, v6 supercharger and zipalign scripts lag is acceptable in ADW launcher. Its not iPad smooth but good enough for me as I wait for ice cream sandwich on this thing.
As for videos l love it, the screen is phenomenal. I don't do video streams in browsers much but instead download TV shows from eztv and watch them or I encode my bluray rips to 720p specific to this tab and play them on it. Only streams I watch regularly outside of YouTube are revision 3 shows which play fine for me in their app.
I'm satisfied with build quality on it, once its in my pyroskin 360 the nonmetal back is irrelevant to me. The tablet did show the oil slick problem early on but I just changed case and handling habits and they never returned.
What I love most is doing circles around my wifes ipad2 away from home when she is on 3g and I'm on LTE.
I understand peoples frustrations even if I don't share them. I knew what I was getting into though and where I wanted to go from the start (cm9) so I'm just enjoying the ride along the way.
jessepatty said:
I just got a new Tab 10.1 for Christmas (actually got it the 23rd) and I have to say I am a bit disappointed with it.
I am on vacation for three weeks so I have been on the tab pretty much constantly since the 23rd trying to personalize it and get it working as I believe it should.
Now don't misinterpret my post here, I'm not bashing it, I love everything Android, I'm just trying to understand what others are experiencing and maybe learn what I can do to make mine better.... I've read and read on this forum and already done several tips, tricks and other things that I would have assumed would have improved the device but so far it's still the same.
My biggest disappointment is video..... My phone plays everything I go watch with no lag or trouble... but This Tab will only play You-Tube videos.
If I go to a website it either tells me I need a plug-in (which is already installed)
or it does nothing and just gives me a black box where the video would be...
I've tried a bunch of different browsers: FireFox, Opera, Dolphin, even the built in android browser and they all do it.
I've reinstalled flash several times and updated it and still I only have video in You tube.
I have the hardest time getting apps to D/L from the market...I keep getting a no connection pop up. I'm using several other devices at the same time and they dont drop connection constantly so it gotta be something with the Tab itself.
Another thing that is kinda bugging me is all the lag in the screen and with the keyboard.... Everything moves kinda choppy or just is very slow to respond.
I did manage to D/L another keyboard which seems to be better.
I thought if I rooted it and got the bloatware off it would improve it but I can't see any improvement overall and it is disappointing...
So guys, what am I doing wrong with this thing? I'd love to be able to use it to watch news, play music and reply to the text and emails I get on my cell with the larger interface but I can't see that happening with how she's running at the present.
My cell does all of the above flawlessly running Cyanogen 7 on 2.3.7 so I'm wondering if I just need to get away from the stock rom or something...I've done everything else I can think of.
What do you all think, Thanks
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Weird... I use a stock 4g version (with adw ex) and I don't have any of your problem
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Samdroid_G_S said:
Yea but Samsung is notorious for using thin plastic, Original Galaxy S phone, Galaxy S II ext all plastic.
I understand the plastic is not hard as a rock , its thin , its light and really is just good for keeping the dust out, protection is very minimal. Once it's in a case you add another layer of plastic on the back for protection anyway and you can no longer see what its made of and the case doubles as a stand , win win and problem solved.
I'm not sure why Samsung never uses an all aluminum case , could be cost, patent problems or could be heat issues, the tab does tend to get pretty warm sometimes I find in the upper left hand corner area and if your using metal that heat could spread.
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"Oh my god, plastic is crap"
"Why Samsung can't use aluminium like Apple ?"
"Plastic feels cheap"
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It's just about feeling, however in the reality :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
I bought 2 of the 16gb wifi models for christmas for my wife and i and at first was completly upset and disappointed . When i opened mine it had the newtonring issue right out of the box and gave it a few days to see if it would go away but to no avail ... My wife was to use hers for buisness use and at first wouldent do what she wanted it to so was worthless .
This is my first experince with android and a samsung mobile (always had ios devices )product but after all the reading ,reviews i did i went with these tabs because everything was on the up till we started using them.
Any way got my tab replaced with a new one and since installed task 10 on both ,overclocked mine now they meet our needs and pretty happy with the purchase. With out being able to do this i would of returned both and went a different direction .
I'm petite. Have small hands. But I like the screen size and how the battery life is better than the gs3. Also like the multi window feature. But would this phone be too big for me. Will people look at me weird if I put this phone to my ear? Lol I also like the fact that I don't need a tablet if I get this phone lol I currently have an iPhone 5
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I'm petite. Have small hands. But I like the screen size and how the battery life is better than the gs3. Also like the multi window feature. But would this phone be too big for me. Will people look at me weird if I put this phone to my ear? Lol I also like the fact that I don't need a tablet if I get this phone lol I currently have an iPhone 5
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The best way to tell is go to an Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, Best Buy, etc. and try it out for yourself.
I have normal sized hands and when I first got it, it definitely felt on the large size, even coming from an S III but it only took me a couple of days to get used to it.
After a day or two you will not even think about how large your new phone is but how small and toy-like you old phone feels.
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I'm petite. Have small hands. But I like the screen size and how the battery life is better than the gs3. Also like the multi window feature. But would this phone be too big for me. Will people look at me weird if I put this phone to my ear? Lol I also like the fact that I don't need a tablet if I get this phone lol I currently have an iPhone 5
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Will people look at you funny? Yes they will. In 6'3" 220lbs and people look at me funny. As others said though is probably best to give it a shot in store and see if you like it. My wife is 5'2" and tiny and after playing with my note now wants one
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Yes people will look at you funny. But does it really matter when you have the best phone available right now? I would'nt trade mine for anything and i came from having a gs3 to the note 2.
Hi,
I came from a thunderbolt and so happy I decided on the note 2. I was thinking of the gs3 and let me tell you the screen size makes doing everything so much nicer. Plus no lag at all.
This is on stock I will make the jump to beans 7 once he releases it.
This is the way you can really see 4g in its full glory.
Thanks,
Bryan
You get used to the size of the note after a few days, its normal to me now and every other phoneni use feels too small lol
And when it comes to using it, I mainly use it with two hands. I don't text or use the phone while driving so I never need to use it with only one hand.
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I had the s3 before this too. I was absolutely blown away by how much longer the battery life lasts over the s3. That's the best way to tell considering I do everything in did with the S3, even have my home screens set up the same.
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After a day or two you will not even think about how large your new phone is but how small and toy-like you old phone feels.
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Funny and so true. I cant believe it but the display no longer seems all that big!
Just like everyone else says its big for about a day then everthing seems tiny any other phone I touch im like wth this thing is soo tiny dont know how we all lived withoyt this perfect phone....but its just like my tv also got a 52" when they first came out n was like wiw this thang is soo big now im like my tv is tiny I need the 81" mmmhuh....but ye go try one in the store or be like me and just order one youll love it especially coming from an iphone
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.but its just like my tv also got a 52" when they first came out n was like wiw this thang is soo big now im like my tv is tiny I need the 81" mmmhuh....
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LOL, no kidding.
We bought a 60" rear projection Sony Wega about 9 years ago (I was in the TV/stereo business for years and still got everything wholesale at that time) and everybody who saw it was dumbfounded.
Now, it still looks pretty big but my Son and I where looking at a 90" Samsung at BestBuy recently and thinking ours looks kinda small........
My friends make fun of me by holding ridiculously sized rectangle objects (like books) to their ear and acting like they are on the phone Lol....however the ooohs and ahhhhs follow with the capabilities of this phone....its hard to gauge in the store especially if they have a security cord attached. Just grab one... There is a return policy if you dont like it...also stop worrying about what people think of you...I've been providing haters with job security since 1980... I'm an equal opportunity employer. Ha
I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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Kind of, one biggy is not being able to add tasks or reminders. I don't know why but that buggs the crap out of me. I was able to with the first and 2nd gen gear watches. It was said this watch would have more support and more apps but from the looks of it the parts of the SDK for this watch seem to be broken thus slowing down app development.
Where are the thousand apps that was said to be avail at launch? I only see maybe 300 apps? (I have a note 4 that should show all of them you would think)
The watch is cool, don't get me wrong. I like it and I like the ability to make calls and receive calls and notifications when I am away from my phone... Im just dumbfounded that you can do something as simple as add a reminder or a task lol. S voice is hit or miss too. S voice on the Gear 2 was on point! (I kinda miss my gear 2)
I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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Yeah the big question is if there is development. I already feel that gear 2 was abandoned and the gear s isn't far behind
I am thinking the smartwatch development cycle is so short, that a given watch is abandoned before it's peak is reached.
Hawkhell said:
I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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It is still a standalone device so I'm not sure how you mean it isn't.
As for the glitches it could either be hardware issues or software, but thinness doesn't seem to be anything that could help.
We are early adopters and with that comes risk but I haven't had problems that would disappoint me to the point of wanting to return it.
It is an advancement for me. But hurry up and take it back if it irritates ya. It isn't for everyone.
if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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Oh God no, the farther away from Android I can go the better. I only want root so I can dig around in it to learn.
Where are sound files kept, what is the file structure. Pull and push for light modding.
This watch reminds me of the N900. Sooooo much potential ...
My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I actually am loving it. Screen is great, connection or remote connection works well, and I love the scrolling on it, as it seems smooth and more fun. I had Gear 1 and 2, and find this far superior so far. Battery very good, even with Always on mode going I get a full day. Bluetooth works well with my headset at the gym, and emails seem to work better, as I can read full Exchange emails, as long as I clear out the notification after each one. News updates are really cool looking too.
I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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Yours is defective. Exchange it.
RChang said:
I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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I just my Gear S yesterday and I'm impressed with the design just like I am with the Note 4. I bought the Notifications app to be able to reply. I'm still trying to figure that out. The Gear S looks huge but surprisingly feels like a normal watch to me. I can see it wouldn't feel right if you have tiny wrists though. I'm going to test the watch out for 14 days and see how much I'll use it.
I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
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The Note 4 has a 2.5D glass screen with the chamfored aluminium contour to give it a more premium look. It has definitely made a difference and makes the phone feel silky smooth. I really don't think the plastic trim around the Note 3 protected it much and it certainly wasn't attractive. People complained like hell to Samsung regarding premium design, they listened and they delivered and people are still moaning.
As for the Gear S, well looks are subjective and I for one believe it looks stunning. The thickness is down to many factors like a decent speaker, bigger battery, sensors and the sim tray. Comparing it to the Galaxy Gear and the LG G watch r, it's about the same in thickness. The fact it curves round the wrist makes it seem less bulky.
It's not silly to have a 3G and Wifi feature, it's what makes the watch stand out from the others. It's not meant for downloading apps, it's for use when your phone is unavailable. I believe you are missing the whole concept. If you want a thin fashion watch then this isn't the right watch for you and I doubt Samsung ever intended it to be fashionable. It's a techies dream and as far as I am concerned is the best smartwatch out there right now. Granted it is expensive but early adoption is always so. The same reason there aren't thousands of apps for it just yet.
My answer to the original question of whether I am disappointed with the Gear S. . it's an easy and resounding NO!
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I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps
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But what even just wifi gives you is at, say your office or home, you can leave your phone sitting on your desk or nightstand and roam freely about the place and still get calls and notifications on the Gear S.
Which to me, is awesome. And clearly better than the Gear Live (which can only helpfully remind you you've left your phone out of range when you walk into the next room)
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xendula said:
I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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I'll try out the others. Haven't even checked for other keyboards - duh!
This thread is for those who have received their note 7 and are returning it due to battery issue or other issues like build quality, screen scratching easily, lag etc
I'm still on pre-order and no sign of stock but i checked on CPW website uk and its stating date of 21st Oct.
Also those who like me still waiting for phone. I'm really considering cancelling my order and wait for Iphone 7 plus, Google pixel xl, Moto Z, LG V20 I hate it when a top end phone lags or isn't buttery smooth.
Would be interesting to know if you're waiting for replacement and how long is the wait? Also if change of mind and y and what will you purchase instead?
I'm in the uk BTW.
riz157 said:
This thread is for those who have received their note 7 and are returning it due to battery issue or other issues like build quality, screen scratching easily, lag etc
I'm still on pre-order and no sign of stock but i checked on CPW website uk and its stating date of 21st Oct.
I'm really considering cancelling my order and wait for Iphone 7 plus, Google phone, Moto Z. I hate it when a top end phone lags or isn't buttery smooth.
I've not found any issues since i haven't received it.
Would be interesting to know if you're waiting for replacement and how long is the wait? Also if change of mind and y and what will you purchase instead?
I'm in the uk BTW.
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I'm returning mine because of the battery. I've found the phone to be excellent with absolutely no lag or stutter. In fact I'd go as far as go say it's smoother than my Nexus 6P which had thermal throttling performance problems. I'm waiting for a replacement from Samsung as this is the phone of the year for me. I believe the Exynos version the UK has is more fluent than the US Snapdragon version. Samsung told me it was a minimum of 3 weeks for a replacement.
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Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
riz157 said:
Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
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CPW have changed their position today, automated message advises to contact Samsung for a replacement, however, when I got through the advisor said they actually want the phone back immediately due to the fire risk.
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CPW have changed their position today, automated message advises to contact Samsung for a replacement, however, when I got through the advisor said they actually want the phone back immediately due to the fire risk.
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That makes sense must have deliberated between lawyers as who would be liable etc.
Risk of fire is probably very low but not worth taking risk.
all other competitors will be loving it especially apple, this all plays nicely into the hands of Apple. What timing.
Batfink33 said:
I'm returning mine because of the battery. I've found the phone to be excellent with absolutely no lag or stutter. In fact I'd go as far as go say it's smoother than my Nexus 6P which had thermal throttling performance problems. I'm waiting for a replacement from Samsung as this is the phone of the year for me. I believe the Exynos version the UK has is more fluent than the US Snapdragon version. Samsung told me it was a minimum of 3 weeks for a replacement.
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That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
im still waiting for my preorder. #TeamFinland #LateAf... Jesus christ i just want my note man.. been waiting for ages and everybody else already got it. Im already getting over the hype lol.
riz157 said:
That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Yes, my 6P feels slow in comparison to the Note 7 (Exynos).
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Yes, my 6P feels slow in comparison to the Note 7 (Exynos).
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I'll have to see this to believe it, the unit i tested in CPW stuttered lag. Even the reviewers on youtube all suggest there is lag.
I hate lag also and my Note 7 is great, I see no lag or stutter, no overheating. It runs great. I was worried about Touchwiz but it's fine.
B3501 said:
I hate lag also and my Note 7 is great, I see no lag or stutter, no overheating. It runs great. I was worried about Touchwiz but it's fine.
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This will be a first if there's absolutely no stutter or lag in note 7. Still not convinced as every Samsung phone I've owned has shown lag.
riz157 said:
That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Mine also is smooth as silk, its a great phone, i'll wait for a new one. I gave my details to samsung customer care yesterday. I also kept my old phone, while i wait, i change the option of fast charging to off. Also i charge phone when i am awake and keep a eye on it. Honesty it doesn't even heat up while charging. I also sometimes shut it off when charging sometimes. I am not worried that it will catch fire. I think the ones that have a problem would show symptoms, just like us when we have problems we have symptoms!
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Mine also is smooth as silk, its a great phone, i'll wait for a new one. I gave my details to samsung customer care yesterday. I also kept my old phone, while i wait, i change the option of fast charging to off. Also i charge phone when i am awake and keep a eye on it. Honesty it doesn't even heat up while charging. I also sometimes shut it off when charging sometimes. I am not worried that it will catch fire. I think the ones that have a problem would show symptoms, just like us when we have problems we have symptoms!
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Agreed, there's just no lag or stutter. It's the first time I've seen it on a Touchwiz phone. It flys.
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Agreed, there's just no lag or stutter. It's the first time I've seen it on a Touchwiz phone. It flys.
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yes agree, i had a note 3, 4 (long time) and short time with a 5, but note 7 is in another category all together in the way it operates. I didn't use touch wiz because i have been always using Nova with no animation. I really like this phone it's beautiful to look at great in the hand and works without fault.....
I'm debating. Dropped mine today from about a foot onto tile and the screen shattered. Using a Spigen neo hybrid too... I'm so torn. Love the Note, but wtf!
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I'm debating. Dropped mine today from about a foot onto tile and the screen shattered. Using a Spigen neo hybrid too... I'm so torn. Love the Note, but wtf!
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Thats a real bummer!!! Good news i would think it is still covered for a replacement! But according to corning glass it could happen 20% of the time and 80% it should be ok. maybe the angle it hits the ground and surface. I for sure have no expertise in these matters...But i feel for you and all of us that invested in this phone....we shouldn't be experiments for these large companies to test their products!
I returned for a refund and now am back using my Note5. But I will rebuy the Note7 once I am sure the battery issue is fixed.
riz157 said:
That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Super smooth after disabling bloat and adjusting animation
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How did Samsung mess up? Its a developing story and they responded as soon as they could. Do some of you sit anxiously waiting to catch your next breath??????
They've identified the issue within a couple of days and are working on a resolution plan which is why they are saying they'll contact us in the next week once stock and plans are understood!
The problem has been the messages coming from retailers and we all know they are full of sh.. just to get you off the phone!
Give them time. I'd rather this was managed that rushed with mistakes.
If you fancy an iphone then what are you doing on Android waiting for the note7. If you jump to the LG...good luck there. I've never even seen v10 in the UK! And how do you know they won't have an unlucky problem...**** happens
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riz157 said:
Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
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Do phones catch fire when turned off?
I'm sure the real reason for leaving phones with customers until exchange is that they know the risk is low so why inconvenience customers by taking their phones off them and potentially leaving them without and at the back of the queue having refunded them. It doesn't work.
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How did Samsung mess up? Its a developing story and they responded as soon as they could. Do some of you sit anxiously waiting to catch your next breath??????
They've identified the issue within a couple of days and are working on a resolution plan which is why they are saying they'll contact us in the next week once stock and plans are understood!
The problem has been the messages coming from retailers and we all know they are full of sh.. just to get you off the phone!
Give them time. I'd rather this was managed that rushed with mistakes.
If you fancy an iphone then what are you doing on Android waiting for the note7. If you jump to the LG...good luck there. I've never even seen v10 in the UK! And how do you know they won't have an unlucky problem...**** happens
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Do phones catch fire when turned off?
I'm sure the real reason for leaving phones with customers until exchange is that they know the risk is low so why inconvenience customers by taking their phones off them and potentially leaving them without and at the back of the queue having refunded them. It doesn't work.
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Wow man. Easy tiger I think people have the right to be annoyed frustrated considering the nature of the problem. Battery exploding I mean it's pretty bad, yes they are trying to resolve the issue but people expect better especially when you fork out around £700.
As for sharing info, experience, sentiments and considering other options is nothing new. No one should feel threatened by it. This is the way of the world, it maybe not right or wrong but it's the way it is.
So dude join the discussion and take it easy.
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