I use the Verizon USA snapdragon and don't see an option in developers options to turn on OEM unlock?
sillyshyme said:
I use the Verizon USA snapdragon and don't see an option in developers options to turn on OEM unlock?
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Option not available on snapdragon....wouldn't do anything anyway (locked bootloader)
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It's only available for international exynos variants (F/DS/N) and the Asian Snapdragon variant G9650.
SO no root?
louforgiveno said:
Option not available on snapdragon....wouldn't do anything anyway (locked bootloader)
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wrong, my snapdragon have unlocked bootloader, is from south america, sm-g9650.
matheus_sc said:
wrong, my snapdragon have unlocked bootloader, is from south america, sm-g9650.
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See Post #1
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matheus_sc said:
wrong, my snapdragon have unlocked bootloader, is from south america, sm-g9650.
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Hi, have you a link to do that? Thnxz
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matheus_sc said:
wrong, my snapdragon have unlocked bootloader, is from south america, sm-g9650.
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All the latin American snap devices are unlockable, not a big shock. What it weird is that sammy went with snaps not exynos in these areas for the first time. I wonder why?
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Oem unlock doesnt do anything on snapdragon. As of this moment. It does not unlock the bootloader. It will allow you to flash the engboot for a dirty root but still will never unlock the bootloader on SD at least.
Check other already have a initial twrp recovery there.
Here in Brazil always have exynos, this year comes with snapdragon, but is a good thing. Better battery, better games perfomance
OEM unlock does not mean its bootloader unlockable or rootable. The exynos variants always comes bootloader unlock along with OEM unlock, but Snapdragon never comes with bootloader unlocked - it is not Samsung, I believe it is Snapdragon issue, they do not allow nor release their kernel code, that's why you will never see root on Snapdragon devices.
I always went with exynos device, but this time because S9/S9+ exynos devices battery issue, screen issue, etc...way too many issues, that's why I went with US unlocked snapdragon version
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OEM unlock does not mean its bootloader unlockable or rootable. The exynos variants always comes bootloader unlock along with OEM unlock, but Snapdragon never comes with bootloader unlocked - it is not Samsung, I believe it is Snapdragon issue, they do not allow nor release their kernel code, that's why you will never see root on Snapdragon devices.
I always went with exynos device, but this time because S9/S9+ exynos devices battery issue, screen issue, etc...way too many issues, that's why I went with US unlocked snapdragon version
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Actually the s7, note 8 and s8 snaps all got root.
It was a hacked root and problematic and limits charging to 80%. No twrp or kernels or custom roms though
And no issues with my exynos, baffery life close to par with my pixel 2 xl
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desudecchi said:
It's only available for international exynos variants (F/DS/N) and the Asian Snapdragon variant G9650.
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I meant to order the Exynos G965F for the unlocked bootloader, but ordered the G9650/DS. Are you sure the 9650 variant bootloader can be fully unlocked to use custom roms? If so I might just stick with that one considering all the battery issues I am hearing about the Exynos...I just ordered yesterday actually and still have time to change the order before its shipped.
Booyaah82 said:
I meant to order the Exynos G965F for the unlocked bootloader, but ordered the G9650/DS. Are you sure the 9650 variant bootloader can be fully unlocked to use custom roms? If so I might just stick with that one considering all the battery issues I am hearing about the Exynos...I just ordered yesterday actually and still have time to change the order before its shipped.
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Yes it should be unlockable but historically the HK versions get very little if any development. So you would maybe have root and twrp but next to no roms...which really makes an unlocked BL somewhat pointless.
Id honestly get the exynos.
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force70 said:
Actually the s7, note 8 and s8 snaps all got root.
It was a hacked root and problematic and limits charging to 80%. No twrp or kernels or custom roms though
And no issues with my exynos, baffery life close to par with my pixel 2 xl
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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it is one of the beta firmware leak helped that, and as you said, no twrp, kernel, no custom ROMs....what's the point of having it? not able to fully charge..etc.....I do not call that 'real' root..
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it is one of the beta firmware leak helped that, and as you said, no twrp, kernel, no custom ROMs....what's the point of having it? not able to fully charge..etc.....I do not call that 'real' root..
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I agree, not what i would want on my device anyway.
If you want proper root, development etc you buy exynos despite maybe not getting a fee features out of the like wifi calling etc
If not then buy a snapdragon.
force70 said:
I agree, not what i would want on my device anyway.
If you want proper root, development etc you buy exynos despite maybe not getting a fee features out of the like wifi calling etc
If not then buy a snapdragon.
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I had chance to get either unlocked snapdragon or exynos version of S9+, but opt for snapdragon, since there's several issues with exynos version of S9/S9+....and I knew all along that getting snapdragon means no root at all, but over the years (i rooted all my devices) I start needing less and less having rooted device...
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I had chance to get either unlocked snapdragon or exynos version of S9+, but opt for snapdragon, since there's several issues with exynos version of S9/S9+....and I knew all along that getting snapdragon means no root at all, but over the years (i rooted all my devices) I start needing less and less having rooted device...
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Ive read about the issues and yet i dont see them on my device, i stopped believing what i read a long time ago lol.
You may get root but it wont be magisk or SU and there will be issues with it.
force70 said:
Ive read about the issues and yet i dont see them on my device, i stopped believing what i read a long time ago lol.
You may get root but it wont be magisk or SU and there will be issues with it.
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you must be one of the lucky one, after my Note 5, and going for S9+, and paying premium $$, I just did not want to take risk with Exynos version - you know what I meant.. I will use it for a few months and see if I still need root, if I do, then sell it and get Exynos version
The root on my s7 edge did not limit charging to 80% but yes the eng boot did cause so ridiculous lag but it was still usable I would trade off the lag for. Root as long as get my external storage back stupid it not accessible to all apps
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Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
ARey1212 said:
Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
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Edit: For good faith, I'll show how I try to "spruce up" my Galaxy experience with homescreenshots
For the record, all S6 models were Exynos. There were no snapdragon versions.
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Venom0642 said:
Let Me Correct you there's S6 SD , The one that were all Exynos are the Note 5. No SD For Note 5
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If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
nrage23 said:
If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
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Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
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Venom0642 said:
Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
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No worries.
ARey1212 said:
but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
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Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
Root on g9650 Hong Kong version can be achieved (see https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...comm-sm-g9650-hong-kong-china-t3764542/page27). I think nowaday there is no way to unlock bootloader of the us variant.
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Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
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That's typical though, I'd be surprised if Sammy left an old exploit open in a new flagship from an old one
I wouldn't put it past em though, the latest exploits have been pretty easy lol
It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
i'd be happy with the ability to do carrier switching like on the s8/s8+ and note 8
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It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
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I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
duraaraa said:
I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
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Did you ever get it to work on Verizon LTE at least? I see it supports the Verizon LTE bands. I want to get this for the dual SIM. Personal phone is TMO and company is Verizon.
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about buying a S9+ however, I'm not sure if I should get the Snapdragon version or the Exynos version. I live in Europe so the Exynos version is the one leading the market here.
I just want to know which version has the most popularity regarding ROMs, customizations and dev support If it's the snapdragon one, I'll bust my ass off to get that one
Thanks for you answers !
takichiman said:
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about buying a S9+ however, I'm not sure if I should get the Snapdragon version or the Exynos version. I live in Europe so the Exynos version is the one leading the market here.
I just want to know which version has the most popularity regarding ROMs, customizations and dev support If it's the snapdragon one, I'll bust my ass off to get that one
Thanks for you answers !
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Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
force70 said:
Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Thanks for the answer man, I haven't used a Samsung phone since the Galaxy S2
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Thanks for the answer man, I haven't used a Samsung phone since the Galaxy S2
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Damn, yeah its been awhile lol.
Alot has changed since 2011!
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force70 said:
Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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The 96X0 Latin America/HK devices are seeing a lot more development this time around thanks to treble. There are already numerous standard GSI roms that work fairly well and bugs are bring fixed every day. There still is more with we exy though but if you need cdma or something the unlocked snaps aren't the wasteland they usually are
As the title says, i just got my device and waited the 7 days to unlock it, only to find that there is not much for my variant
why is this? will it ever change? what can a snapdragon variant user do?
thanks in advance
I don't believe it's been rooted.
kodomito said:
As the title says, i just got my device and waited the 7 days to unlock it, only to find that there is not much for my variant
why is this? will it ever change? what can a snapdragon variant user do?
thanks in advance
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Because that variant is as far as I'm aware is the US variant. Vast majority of dev work is on the non-US variants of Galaxy devices as vast majority of devs are non-US.
Hello i have owned my galaxy S9+ (SM-G965U1) for about a year now. Problem is that One UI has completely ruined my life and my entire experience with my phone. Back when it ran Oreo it was near perfect.
So i need help figuring out what the best S9+ with a unlocked bootloader is and where i might be able to buy them new that is.
My plan is to buy one with a unlocked bootloader so i will never have to deal with the piece of human excrement that is One UI
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
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tdevaughn said:
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
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Yes believe it or not it has truly made my life miserable. I don't understand why companies try to fix stuff that isn't broken.
To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
Exynos is good for development only as long as the official android is upgraded. But it's closed source with sammy proprietary blobs.
I've got a Note4 Exynos and officially it was upgraded to MM. Only because of months and years of miraculous work of a couple of developers, it's working (with a few hiccups) with TW nougat and up to oreo Lineage.
If you want to change the phone and got the cash after 2 years (or 3? ) of major upgrades from Samsung, then Exynos is OK.
As for me the OP7 (pro maybe) can cut a better deal. Huge deving possibility. And ain't got too much money to change the phone too often.
Good luck.
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To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
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Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
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Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
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Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
darkensx said:
Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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hmm... no idea thats a first i heard of newegg sell counterfit anything but essentially the model code for snapdragon unlocked is SM-G9650 Note: there is not a letter after the zero ive seen ones SM-G9650U and SM-G9650U1 not sure difference between the three mine i got through rent a center but assume you can get them online you can try amazon at least if you get a counterfit they will do something.
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I often read that Snapdragon phones have locked bootloader which makes it hard to root. Are there any exceptions to that (e.g. phone sold outside the US), as I have seen people mention that they have rooted S10 Lite here.
Thanks.
xAxB said:
I often read that Snapdragon phones have locked bootloader which makes it hard to root. Are there any exceptions to that (e.g. phone sold outside the US), as I have seen people mention that they have rooted S10 Lite here.
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770f surely can be rooted. I am. All s10 lite are with snapdragon. I don't know about usa.
The international model can ( I am rooted with G770F) the USA version can't have it's bootloader unlocked, unfortunately