Has this happened to anyone? Like after a couple of hours of inactivity, it sometimes requires you to enter PIN before allowing users to use biometric unlock method. It says ' For your security, use your PIN to unlock your phone. You can use biometrics next time.' As shown screenshot attached below.
The weird thing is, this happens, sometimes it doesn't, and biometric unlock works fine without needing to enter PIN again.
Not a big issue, but kinda annoying needing to enter PIN from time to time
Yeah, I get that every now and then, too. Guess it's Android's (or Samsung's) way of making sure someone hasn't managed to fool the fingerprint or face unlock.
meyerweb said:
Yeah, I get that every now and then, too. Guess it's Android's (or Samsung's) way of making sure someone hasn't managed to fool the fingerprint or face unlock.
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That's a relief to know. Weird thing is that my S8+ running official Oreo never had such issue. Oh well.. at least it isn't a bug.
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That's a relief to know. Weird thing is that my S8+ running official Oreo never had such issue. Oh well.. at least it isn't a bug.
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Greetings,
My S8+ (Oreo) is doing the same since day 1. My S5 (Marshmallow) was also doing it, it was asking for password and not allowing use of fingerprint from time to time. Many people have the same issue but no solution / reasoning explained yet, I believe.
GPrien said:
Greetings,
My S8+ (Oreo) is doing the same since day 1. My S5 (Marshmallow) was also doing it, it was asking for password and not allowing use of fingerprint from time to time. Many people have the same issue but no solution / reasoning explained yet, I believe.
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This isn't an issue.
It's a security measure taken time to time to prevent unauthorized access.
I disagree with "This isn't an issue." If it is driving me to turn off all my security because it won't allow me to disable it, then it is an issue. I've read the same sentiment from others.
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I disagree with "This isn't an issue." If it is driving me to turn off all my security because it won't allow me to disable it, then it is an issue. I've read the same sentiment from others.
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I know placing your fingure over the reader is hell
atheitopia said:
I know placing your fingure over the reader is hell
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^ comment makes no sense.
The stupid feature Google has introduced, is randomly demanding PIN instead of fingerprint. It will happen every couple of days or so, even when phone has not been restarted. You might have used it 10 minutes ago, doesn't matter... you will be asked for PIN and it says "use biometrics next time". It's so arrogant, and takes away control of our phone security. They are treating us like children. It's condescending and disrespectful.
The thing is, we can already choose to have no pin if we want, just swipe to unlock. So why can't we have biometrics ONLY without pin? Because we can't have nice things? Why?
It's the worst thing about my new phone by far. I will never stop looking for a way to get around this brain-dead "feature". How I unlock my phone should be up to me, not some crusty old Android developer sitting in a dark room, dreaming up ways to piss people off. If anyone knows how to stop it asking for pin, and use biometrics all the time (except after reboot) then please share knowledge.
"Its a Feature, not a Bug"
The fact that this is a feature rather than a bug does not make it okay. In fact, it makes it worse. It is a problem when a company tries to force its way upon me and upon a product I own and I have zero ability to do anything about it. If its "for my security" then it is MY choice to decide not to be forced to put in some pin at random when I have a perfectly good fingerprint that works just fine. I am not personally worried about someone cutting my finger off and revealing the occult secrets hidden within my phone, so I should be able to turn this off. If you try to force me to do something and make it impossible to get around, I might just leave your stupid platform forever.
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what happened to the face recognition as an unlock method ?
i thought the SGS2 had it or did i dream that ?
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.... did i dream that ?
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No dream mate, there was an english review with a girl showing the facerecognition unlock. I haven't received the phone yet, but it should be a setting under the security tab..
afraid not pal...see attached screen shot :-(
would have been cool though!
mrdo said:
what happened to the face recognition as an unlock method ?
i thought the SGS2 had it or did i dream that ?
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Yup, the first demo video showed it. I guess it has been removed for security reasons (face recognition isn't really secure). Can't find it in settings here.
I heard it was vulnerable to the good old attack of "hold photo up to camera".
Too much of a gimmick if you ask me tbh.
i would prefer to decide myself if something is secure or not though ...
it seems a bit strange to have a piece of functionality working and then ditch it - gimmicks are an integral part of the sales process. i quite like going through the process of thinking something is cool and incredibly useful only to realise that it's completely pointless after i've used it a couple of times ...
disappointed - perhaps the facial recognition code would have added a few mm to the thickness of the phone like the NFC hardware ...
Eddiemc said:
No dream mate, there was an english review with a girl showing the facerecognition unlock. I haven't received the phone yet, but it should be a setting under the security tab..
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It's not there. It's just the three standard options: Password, PIN or unlock pattern.
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FPRobber said:
It's not there. It's just the three standard options: Password, PIN or unlock pattern.
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Right, this is what there, nothing else. Samsung just a cheated cows. made peoples go crazy by showing what coming soon eg, NFC CHIPS & FACE SECURITY, then half the features is gone missing. What a con cows
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I heard it was vulnerable to the good old attack of "hold photo up to camera".
Too much of a gimmick if you ask me tbh.
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Well to be honest that was my theory in the forums
I still think it hold up though.
I have an LGUS992. Thanks
Not yet.
Why not? Does lg not let you unlock the bootloader?
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Does lg is gay
Skyler7381 said:
Why not? Does lg not let you unlock the bootloader?
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It was repeated all over in the G5 section, the only unlockable version is the european H850.
Also the H830 has root and twrp, but these are the only two models.
Thats dumb.
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One has to realize that the developers who courageously "get root" for us do so on their own time. Not only that, on their own dime as well. In the trial and error process of unlocking the bootloader the risk of nuking their devices is high (and quite a few developers have nuked this model and others). And they go and buy another, so they can continue development. This gets very expensive.
And most importantly, with devices like the G5 - it takes time.
So while it's easy for one to respond "that's dumb", etc - I guess the above points are completely disregarded. Or perhaps not even known in the first place.
Most importantly, we are at the will of the developers. If they feel they are being disrespected, amongst other things - it would not be unreasonable for them to halt development. Please keep all of this in mind.
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One has to realize that the developers who courageously "get root" for us do so on their own time. Not only that, on their own dime as well. In the trial and error process of unlocking the bootloader the risk of nuking their devices is high (and quite a few developers have nuked this model and others). And they go and buy another, so they can continue development. This gets very expensive.
And most importantly, with devices like the G5 - it takes time.
So while it's easy for one to respond "that's dumb", etc - I guess the above points are completely disregarded. Or perhaps not even known in the first place.
Most importantly, we are at the will of the developers. If they feel they are being disrespected, amongst other things - it would not be unreasonable for them to halt development. Please keep all of this in mind.
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I understand all that they go through and are doing and i appreciate it, i meant no disrespect. Im just saying its dumb that lg doesnt let you unlock the bootloader. I came from a moto x 2014 and all i had to do to unlock the bootloader was sign up on a website and do some other stuff.
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Its the most talked about in the social media in the few years ago!
At this point, the h830 and h850 are the only models that can be rooted due to being able to unlock the bootloader.
Hey guys, just one question for those of you who already have root. Didn't want to open a new thread.
When using Nova launcher, are you able to unlock the phone without it requesting a pin to be entered?
I really need this answer, going nuts with a stock launcher
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aca89 said:
Hey guys, just one question for those of you who already have root. Didn't want to open a new thread.
When using Nova launcher, are you able to unlock the phone without it requesting a pin to be entered?
I really need this answer, going nuts with a stock launcher
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Under Lockscreen I selected "None" and never have to enter a pin - I do use Nova, but I'd assume it would be the same with any launcher? Unless I'm completely missing the point here :laugh:
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Under Lockscreen I selected "None" and never have to enter a pin - I do use Nova, but I'd assume it would be the same with any launcher? Unless I'm completely missing the point here [emoji23]
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First of all thank you for responding
Well the point is, with LG stock launcher you can set up pin protection but it works in conjunction with the fingerprint reader meaning that when you unlock the screen with fingerprint phone is not asking for a pin entry. You are however able to double tap to power the screen and then enter pin to unlock if for some reason you do not want to use reader.
Let me ask again Are you able to do mentioned above with Nova and root? Can you maybe test for me
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First of all thank you for responding
Well the point is, with LG stock launcher you can set up pin protection but it works in conjunction with the fingerprint reader meaning that when you unlock the screen with fingerprint phone is not asking for a pin entry. You are however able to double tap to power the screen and then enter pin to unlock if for some reason you do not want to use reader.
Let me ask again Are you able to do mentioned above with Nova and root? Can you maybe test for me
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Good grief, what a pain to set that up :laugh:
Sometimes I can unlock it by just touching it with the finger I set up, but other times I get "Unable to use fingerprint" and have to use the pin. I'd say it's about 50/50
No idea why it sometimes works and other times doesn't, but I'm removing the lock again now ... way too much hassle
Nimueh said:
Good grief, what a pain to set that up [emoji23]
Sometimes I can unlock it by just touching it with the finger I set up, but other times I get "Unable to use fingerprint" and have to use the pin. I'd say it's about 50/50
No idea why it sometimes works and other times doesn't, but I'm removing the lock again now ... way too much hassle
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Haha, thank you again for a quick response [emoji2] It is a bit of a pain.
I guess I'll just root and see how it goes.
Have a nice day, cheers mate!
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If I root my device will I stop receiving OTA updates?
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Haha, thank you again for a quick response [emoji2] It is a bit of a pain.
I guess I'll just root and see how it goes.
Have a nice day, cheers mate!
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Hey man, I'm also using Nova Launcher on my LG G5 H860 (no root tho - obviously - woe is me!), and I use the finger print scanner AND a pattern. I think LG suspect that the fingerprint scanner alone is not enough security, so they make us use a pattern or pin on top of that. At least that's my guess since I was immediately prompted to add the pin, password or pattern after setting up my fingerprints. Also, upon rebooting, EVERY TIME I have to put in my pattern. The fingerprint alone is not enough to gain access.
I'm guessing it would depend on the ROM you use, not particularly the launcher. But let us know how you go... Have you rooted yet?
Nice avatar BTW. \m/
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Hey man, I'm also using Nova Launcher on my LG G5 H860 (no root tho - obviously - woe is me!), and I use the finger print scanner AND a pattern. I think LG suspect that the fingerprint scanner alone is not enough security, so they make us use a pattern or pin on top of that. At least that's my guess since I was immediately prompted to add the pin, password or pattern after setting up my fingerprints. Also, upon rebooting, EVERY TIME I have to put in my pattern. The fingerprint alone is not enough to gain access.
I'm guessing it would depend on the ROM you use, not particularly the launcher. But let us know how you go... Have you rooted yet?
Nice avatar BTW. \m/
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It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
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It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
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The PIN is, just as you said, a backup security measure. If you're rooted you can go and download a fingerprint add on through Xposed.. that means Only your fingerprint is needed to unlock your device.
"Fingerprint Enabler" ?
aca89 said:
It's actually a backup option I think, in case when fingerprint reader fails. Makes sense
System is not letting other apps take control over the phone even though they are listed as device administrators. It's a new security measure introduced with MM.
Of course everything changes when you have root privileges
I've rooted the phone yesterday. Nova can now unlock the phone with just a fingerprint. Also installed the Viper audio mod and deleted a few system apps.
Right now I'm investigating how to prolong the super brightness mode so it can last longer than lousy two minutes
Glad to hear someone appreciates the sound of perseverance \m/ \m/
Keep rocking brother
Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
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Don't have G5 so I can't test or even know if what I'm saying is correct, but I was looking through the G5 git tree and saw the super brightness mode seems to be called HL_MODE standing for LGE_HIGH_LUMINANCE_MODE, there's referenced to it in the code, you could probably edit it there then compile and it will most likely work, however it seems it's also with references to the kernel so you probably gonna have to edit both the kernel and ROM simultaneously to make things easier...
raynan said:
its the most talked about in the social media in the few years ago!
At this point, the h830 and h850 are the only models that can be rooted due to being able to unlock the bootloader.
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Lmaooo
Just started using it today. Seems like it works okay so far. Anybody else use it? Have you been able to trick it? Just curious about how well it works and security on it.
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I find it not working correctly more often than not, however, that is because I only really use it while my phone is lying down, so the angle of my face might be tripping it up. I can't imagine what it will be like on the iphone x where this is the only way to unlock the phone. Holding my phone up to my face is not how I want to unlock my phone every time.
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I find it not working correctly more often than not, however, that is because I only really use it while my phone is lying down, so the angle of my face might be tripping it up. I can't imagine what it will be like on the iphone x where this is the only way to unlock the phone. Holding my phone up to my face is not how I want to unlock my phone every time.
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Yeah. I still have the fingerprint set up and mostly use that. True, I have bought iPhones too but I really wasn't interested in the X at all.
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I redid the facial recognition for face unlock and I am now finding it is more accurate than before. Win!
**Yes i was being stupid, found it
Am i being really stupid, but i cant find this feature at all.
Im sure i saw it on set up but cant find it again now.
Andy ideas chaps?
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Face unlock option gone?
Sorry for bringing this old thread up again, but i wanted try the face unlock option recently and i can't find it anymore.
I've set it up when I got my phone but switched it off till now.
Does anybody have the same problem? It it possible LG removed the option with one of latest updates?
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Dan
Nevermind, i've found it. Apparently i've removed lg face recognition from trust agents...
I've had my share of grief with the fingerprint sensor on my Pixel 6, but it's totally usable and I was generally fine with it. Until I realised yesterday that all that oh-so complex and safe AI security procedure that allegedly makes the sensor so slow is complete bs.
I was sitting next to a friend who had never used an in-screen fingerprint sensor before and he wanted to mess around with it. After like 5 seconds he unlocked the phone. His left thumb was accepted by the phone. I was in utter shock. He was able to unlock the phone every single time without any problems whatsoever. So I thought ok, this might be rare, but there is a tiny chance that two people have very similar fingerprints. But needless to say, I was not able to unlock his iPhone with my fingerprint.
I have a few things that I dislike about the Pixel, but this safety concern feels major to me.
This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
freeflyer said:
This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
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it sure has been reported before but seeing it from others with the simplicity to bypass it is not just scary but hopefully embarrassing for Google and I hope they fix this.
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This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
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Wow, hadn't heard about that yet. In the past I've heard that those simple face unlocks can be tricked by as little as a picture of someone, but I always thought fingerprint sensors would be precise and safe. Well, leave it to google to mess it up I guess.
I thought google hardware would be worth something in 2021, but this phone does not feel good at all.
Scary potential security problems indeed...
Did you have Smart Lock enabled? Did it actually scan the finger (i.e. did it get really bright on that part of the screen). The screen shows the fingerprint icon even when the phone is unlocked.
I didn't realise it was unsafe as well as being completely useless.
I have a use my pin to unlock it 50% of the time.
It also uses a CCD (i.e. camera) to read the fingerprint, so in theory, a picture of your finger should trick it into unlocking.
I eagerly installed the Dec 2021 update on my Pixel 6 a couple of weeks back - hoping to improve the FP pass rate.
But I am convinced its gotten worse.
It seemed better at first - but soon deteriorated...
Since the update, whilst it still unlocks on the 1st attempt occasionally, I am finding far more instances where it completely fails to recognise my FP and I am forced to put my PIN number in to unlock.
Prior to the update, it would unlock more often on the 1st attempt - otherwise it may have taken 2-3 attempts to unlock and very rarely I would have to enter the PIN.
Same here! adding more of the same finger did not help!
It was better or about the same from 13/12 until 25/12, and now I hardly can use it. have to enter password all the time.
harryw66 said:
I eagerly installed the Dec 2021 update on my Pixel 6 a couple of weeks back - hoping to improve the FP pass rate.
But I am convinced its gotten worse.
It seemed better at first - but soon deteriorated...
Since the update, whilst it still unlocks on the 1st attempt occasionally, I am finding far more instances where it completely fails to recognise my FP and I am forced to put my PIN number in to unlock.
Prior to the update, it would unlock more often on the 1st attempt - otherwise it may have taken 2-3 attempts to unlock and very rarely I would have to enter the PIN.
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I am not sure where you are located geographically, but in the northern hemisphere it is now winter. As such the overall humidity levels (particularly indoors) tends to be very low and skin is drier. What you may be seeing is your skin seasonally drying out - and the P6 is terrible at reading dry fingerprints.
chaimav said:
I am not sure where you are located geographically, but in the northern hemisphere it is now winter. As such the overall humidity levels (particularly indoors) tends to be very low and skin is drier. What you may be seeing is your skin seasonally drying out - and the P6 is terrible at reading dry fingerprints.
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can confirm, i live in Vermont and the finger print reader takes 4-6 times to register..everytime. used to do it in 1-2 before the temp dropped. its by far the most frustrating part of this phone so far.
dehelfix said:
can confirm, i live in Vermont and the finger print reader takes 4-6 times to register..everytime. used to do it in 1-2 before the temp dropped. its by far the most frustrating part of this phone so far.
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I had a feeling about this - but never had the same issue with my previous OnePlus phones with screen based FP reader.
Also, the back sensor on cheap Oppo phone or basic Nord N100 work fine - unlock first time...
Did anybody here read the other 8+ threads here in the Pixel 6 thread about the finger print reader. ?
Just curious, why no one found any help there....
Not looking for help, just sharing and trying to get an idea of other people's experiences post Dec update.
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I had a feeling about this - but never had the same issue with my previous OnePlus phones with screen based FP reader.
Also, the back sensor on cheap Oppo phone or basic Nord N100 work fine - unlock first time...
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Back sensors use different technology than in screen ones.
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Not looking for help, just sharing and trying to get an idea of other people's experiences post Dec update.
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I think his point was that there are a half dozen FPR threads already and another is not really needed. Why not find an older one and update that? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Worst FPR ever put on a phone
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock...
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Just installed a glass screen protector and FPR won't recognize
I did the steps people have said to do like increase touch sensitivity and re add all the fingers I would use but it still won't work. I don't know who made this protector since I got it off a marketplace site and when I met with the person all...
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As you will note, I mentioned that multiple OnePlus phones with screen based sensors worked fine for me.
I am also aware that back sensors use different tech - the point was that cheapo bottom of the range phones have no problems with fingerprints - so why does my £600 phone not work as well. It's not good enough.
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I think his point was that there are a half dozen FPR threads already and another is not really needed. Why not find an older one and update that? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Worst FPR ever put on a phone
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock...
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Just installed a glass screen protector and FPR won't recognize
I did the steps people have said to do like increase touch sensitivity and re add all the fingers I would use but it still won't work. I don't know who made this protector since I got it off a marketplace site and when I met with the person all...
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Because some are pre update, and some of the post update threads are more concerned with who has received the update and who has not.
Seriously don't understand the problem, I create a thread with a very specific question and suddenly I am took to task for it...woah....
No problem in the fingerprint department for me since Dec update. It is almost perfect now. Very rare to get failed reads.
If only I had some cell signal though
harryw66 said:
As you will note, I mentioned that multiple OnePlus phones with screen based sensors worked fine for me.
I am also aware that back sensors use different tech - the point was that cheapo bottom of the range phones have no problems with fingerprints - so why does my £600 phone not work as well. It's not good enough.
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Sent it back for a refund.
I would not put up with all the troubles that you are having.
My P6 works good before the December update and after the December update.
As said multiple times in the
other threads.
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Did anybody here read the other 8+ threads here in the Pixel 6 thread about the finger print reader. ?
Just curious, why no one found any help there....
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Yup so much pixel spam on the same issues over and over lol
vandyman said:
Sent it back for a refund.
I would not put up with all the troubles that you are having.
My P6 works good before the December update and after the December update.
As said multiple times in the
other threads.
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I would love to - but its been over 2 months since I ordered it. I foolishly hoped that Google would fix it ASAP - and the 1st attempt has been less than satisfactory...Wish I had returned it within the 30 days...
There seems to be some hope of a workaround... Fingerprint Reader tip