Through it, it is possible https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
I see our partition “/system/vendor” 1.3G size
@erfanoabdi
liushangrong said:
Through it, it is possible https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr.../tool-capire-le-treble-terble-vendor-t3774629
I see our partition “/system/vendor” 1.3G size
@erfanoabdi
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I'm curious. What good would some self-hacked Treble do unless LG gives it to us? LG isn't going to say, "Oh XDA users made a Treble for V30. We'll use that to give them faster updates." No, they will keep giving us updates THEIR way.
Tell me what else Treble is good for? Nothing for the V30, that I can think of.
Treble is designed to theoretically give faster updates from the manufacturer/carrier. Treble only affects custom ROMs and devs if you have bootloader unlocked device with a way to get root. And right now those are open market US998 V30, European H930, and European H930G -- because those are the ones approved by LG. And those already have ROMs, TWRP, etc because they are bootloader unlocked and have full flash commands.
So...
Self-hacked Treble won't help the variants that don't have bootloader unlock and/or full flash commands.
And Treble would only help the three LG Developer website variants by possibly giving them AOSP ROMs. At the expense of losing quad DAC and AI camera functionality.
Please tell me what I am not understanding or missing?
We can, and we will, eventually ?
First need to find out what causes my los15.1 to be so unstable (the rest all works... cam, nfc, audio, ril, bt, wifi,...)
Have the same problem on all aosp based roms (tried LOS and GZOSP so far), so its either device tree, blobs or kernel fault
afterwards i can try to get a real vendor partition (repartitioning basically, possible on the g6/5/v20, so hopefully for us too)
And then some Treble, after i haxed some blobs that force link to /system instead of using the linker ... ? (e.g. vibrator has 2 libs that do that, and some others that search configs only in /system/etc )
Atleast thats the plan so far....
I personally dont care about the AI cam, but DAC is possible, with enough work, according to rashed atleast ?
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I personally dont care about the AI cam, but DAC is possible, with enough work, according to rashed atleast ?
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Is there a thread discussing, how and if the DAC is possible that you can link here please
ChazzMatt said:
I'm curious. What good would some self-hacked Treble do unless LG gives it to us? LG isn't going to say, "Oh XDA users made a Treble for V30. We'll use that to give them faster updates." No, they will keep giving us updates THEIR way.
Tell me what else Treble is good for? Nothing for the V30, that I can think of.
Treble is designed to theoretically give faster updates from the manufacturer/carrier. Treble only affects custom ROMs and devs if you have bootloader unlocked device with a way to get root. And right now those are open market US998 V30, European H930, and European H930G -- because those are the ones approved by LG. And those already have ROMs, TWRP, etc because they are bootloader unlocked and have full flash commands.
So...
Self-hacked Treble won't help the variants that don't have bootloader unlock and/or full flash commands.
And Treble would only help the three LG Developer website variants by possibly giving them AOSP ROMs. At the expense of losing quad DAC and AI camera functionality.
Please tell me what I am not understanding or missing?
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I own the US998 and I want to get high pitches to get AOSP ROMs (I believe many people would also like to get). I don't have the ability to get it. But I am looking forward to it! In the future there will certainly be an AI camera running on Aosp (perhaps not as good as LG). The DAC will also have a balance, maybe.
SGCMarkus said:
We can, and we will, eventually
First need to find out what causes my los15.1 to be so unstable (the rest all works... cam, nfc, audio, ril, bt, wifi,...)
Have the same problem on all aosp based roms (tried LOS and GZOSP so far), so its either device tree, blobs or kernel fault
afterwards i can try to get a real vendor partition (repartitioning basically, possible on the g6/5/v20, so hopefully for us too)
And then some Treble, after i haxed some blobs that force link to /system instead of using the linker ... ? (e.g. vibrator has 2 libs that do that, and some others that search configs only in /system/etc )
Atleast thats the plan so far....
I personally dont care about the AI cam, but DAC is possible, with enough work, according to rashed atleast
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Looking forward, this means that there will be more AOSP ROMs. I am willing to pay for this. Because other people can do nothing.
liushangrong said:
Looking forward, this means that there will be more AOSP ROMs. I am willing to pay for this. Because other people can do nothing.
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Working on this same ******* bug for over a month now, ask many other devs with more experience... Nobody has a clue wth is going wrong there xD
Logs are basically empty, theres no pstore/ramoops created either... .-.
all im doing is guessing here..... and that not really successful xD
And Treble would only help the three LG Developer website variants by possibly giving them AOSP ROMs. At the expense of losing quad DAC and AI camera functionality.
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This is EXACTLY what Treble is good for, but you misunderstand. On a device that natively supports Treble, it is insanely easy to build AOSP with everything working just like the stock ROM.
Now, on a phone that you can hack it in, if you get it working ONCE, then you can pretty much upgrade to new versions of AOSP and still have a fully functional phone -- THAT is why you would want to convert a phone to Treble. Hack hard once, and enjoy it for the long run
You are correct that you need a rooted phone to take advantage of it. Even phones that ship with Treble are pretty much useless -- because as you said, they still don't ship updates in a timely manner, and if you don't have an unlocked bootloader with full fastboot, then you won't be getting AOSP.
Treble is awesome, don't think that it isn't. However, it is only awesome on developer friendly phones.
TL;DR: Hacking in Treble support on the H930/G and US998 is most definitely worth the effort in the long run. You can bet your rear that I will be hacking it into the V20 *IF* LG doesn't break the engineering aboot with the Oreo update.
-- Brian
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This is EXACTLY what Treble is good for, but you misunderstand. On a device that natively supports Treble, it is insanely easy to build AOSP with everything working just like the stock ROM.
Now, on a phone that you can hack it in, if you get it working ONCE, then you can pretty much upgrade to new versions of AOSP and still have a fully functional phone -- THAT is why you would want to convert a phone to Treble. Hack hard once, and enjoy it for the long run
You are correct that you need a rooted phone to take advantage of it. Even phones that ship with Treble are pretty much useless -- because as you said, they still don't ship updates in a timely manner, and if you don't have an unlocked bootloader with full fastboot, then you won't be getting AOSP.
Treble is awesome, don't think that it isn't. However, it is only awesome on developer friendly phones.
TL;DR: Hacking in Treble support on the H930/G and US998 is most definitely worth the effort in the long run. You can bet your rear that I will be hacking it into the V20 *IF* LG doesn't break the engineering aboot with the Oreo update.
-- Brian
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Exactly, and about the V20, i think (on discord) rashed mentioned something about treble for the g6/5/v20, and that its almost done
also something about repartitioning ?
Might wanna work with him?
btw, you dont have by chance a clue what could cause my issues stated above ??
runningnak3d said:
This is EXACTLY what Treble is good for, but you misunderstand. On a device that natively supports Treble, it is insanely easy to build AOSP with everything working just like the stock ROM.
Now, on a phone that you can hack it in, if you get it working ONCE, then you can pretty much upgrade to new versions of AOSP and still have a fully functional phone -- THAT is why you would want to convert a phone to Treble. Hack hard once, and enjoy it for the long run
You are correct that you need a rooted phone to take advantage of it. Even phones that ship with Treble are pretty much useless -- because as you said, they still don't ship updates in a timely manner, and if you don't have an unlocked bootloader with full fastboot, then you won't be getting AOSP.
Treble is awesome, don't think that it isn't. However, it is only awesome on developer friendly phones.
TL;DR: Hacking in Treble support on the H930/G and US998 is most definitely worth the effort in the long run. You can bet your rear that I will be hacking it into the V20 *IF* LG doesn't break the engineering aboot with the Oreo update.
-- Brian
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You said it in a way better than me.
I'm very skeptical Treble will give much faster updates from carriers/OEMs to non-rooted phones, when they have no financial incentive to provide faster updates. In fact, one regional carrier I used to be with basically said "You want a new OS, then you need buy a new phone."
Yep .. disposable phones.
Hopefully in Treble 2.0, Google will require an update mechanism be in place for users to pull (or Google to push) OS updates directly. Then having a rooted phone is just a bonus, but not needed to get timely updates.
If you look at the updates that are pushed to phones currently, the firmware is actually updated very rarely, and it is mainly the modem.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Yep .. disposable phones.
Hopefully in Treble 2.0, Google will require an update mechanism be in place for users to pull (or Google to push) OS updates directly. Then having a rooted phone is just a bonus, but not needed to get timely updates.
If you look at the updates that are pushed to phones currently, the firmware is actually updated very rarely, and it is mainly the modem.
-- Brian
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It seems that we still need to wait. There is no news at all.
LMFAO.
Sorry, but you must be a new LG owner. LG is one of the WORST OEMs.
-- Brian
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Hello developers and LG G5 users,
I recently got the LG G5, and everything has been great! Performance is top-notch, display is stunning, and camera takes amazing pictures.
I have the RS988 model, which is the United States carrier unlocked model (not tied to any carrier). It is available at Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DJE22C2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8.
I ask with respect and courtesy, does anyone have plans for supporting this model with custom ROMs? I see that the H850 and H830 models are supported, but not the RS988. This model is officially supported by LG for a bootloader unlock, and a working TWRP build is available.
Again, I would like to ask if anyone has plans for supporting the RS988 model with a custom ROM. Fulmics o), Resurrection Remix, AOSPA, Dirty Unicorns, OwnROM, AICP, AOSPExtended, Lineage, ANTHING!
I could even do some light testing, and I'm sure other people feel the same way.
Sincerely,
An LG G5 RS988 user,
Unscedeo
Unscedeo said:
Hello developers and LG G5 users,
I recently got the LG G5, and everything has been great! Performance is top-notch, display is stunning, and camera takes amazing pictures.
I have the RS988 model, which is the United States carrier unlocked model (not tied to any carrier). It is available at Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DJE22C2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8.
I ask with respect and courtesy, does anyone have plans for supporting this model with custom ROMs? I see that the H850 and H830 models are supported, but not the RS988. This model is officially supported by LG for a bootloader unlock, and a working TWRP build is available.
Again, I would like to ask if anyone has plans for supporting the RS988 model with a custom ROM. I could even do some light testing, and I'm sure other people feel the same way.
Sincerely,
An LG G5 RS988 user,
Unscedeo
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It would be nice, I have the same model. I was thinking about getting into Android development and working on this phone but that'll take a good while, most developers probably looked over this phone since it for unlockable so late and really I think stock is enough. I have it modified for my needs and it's alright. And you would think this model would get some development since it's not tied to a carrier but I guess not. If I find where to start and everything I might work on this device and of somehow I figure things out I'll be in development for at least 2-3 years for this device.
Please make custom ROM for rs988
You're to late Guys. The G5 is almost completely abdoned and the Most Devs (Who had a Choice) are gone. Outdated 7.0 Stock Firmware and a lack of good Sources are killing the Rest. Besides that is asking for any Development on it just crazy. You don't need to ask! If there is nothing, there will come nothing....
Never LG again! To many mistakes and not a piece Developer friendly at all. Try to sell Your G5 and You will See what i mean!
He's right about the lack of good sources I had an H830 and the roms for it take away useful features for the lg g5. And all have the same bugs. I tried them but kept going back to stock.
There used to be a time when custom roms made the phone better. That time seems to have passed, it is getting harder and harder to root carrier phones, not just lg.
The rs988 is a smooth running phone, with root we get full control of our phone. If you are not happy with that feel free to port over a rom, but please stop asking for dev support.
We are on our own with this phone.
I'm kinda glad this phone has been abandoned and looked upon so poorly.
I bought a brand new rs988 build date 3/17 for 249.00 B&H Photo about 6 weeks ago. The build quality is better, the screen is better, and no gps issues.
Since the Nougat update the phone is so much improved but if you don't like Nougat you can always downgrade back to marshmallow. (benefit of unlocked bootloader)
I bought genuine batteries from NewEgg recently for 5.99 a piece.
It's one of the few unlocked phones that work on Verizon.
But for me the "always listing" (just like the pixel) very few phones have that feature. The removable battery, the IR blaster, expandable storage are requirements.
If I need waterproofing I throw on my fre lifeproof I bought new for 20 bucks.
Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's not worth it. This phone has been given up on too quickly.
At the current price I wouldn't be surprised if some come back to it.
Peace
Yes, I understand everyone's thoughts about development stopping for the LG G5. I am rooted and the stock ROM is excellent, I was just simply inquiring about custom ROM status. Didn't mean to bug or annoy any developers. It would just be nice if there was support, that's all.
wolfu11 said:
I bought genuine batteries from NewEgg recently for 5.99 a piece.
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By the way, could you send me the link to this? That price is just insane. The lowest I've seen is $11 at Walmart.
Tbh even though I have an h850 I don't see development stopping for custom ROMs on G5, it's being worked on. Slowly yeah,it's summer time,can't expect anyone to give up on some holiday and enjoyment to tinker around. Most of the stuff is already there to support RS988. LineageOS is official for G5,Mokee is official for G5 (2 versions on both for now), besides NFC bug(that's being worked on and there's already a half working solution) Bluetooth bug (not syncing to some products but working) and video saving( just a matter of time when it will be fixed) G5 in general is a fully supported by custom ROMs.We have a lot of unofficial builds too. Getting an official build instead of unofficial one is an advantage not a deal breaker and building your own build isn't that hard anyway. I've studied that for 5 days and have a build for H850 already. And it just took me 5 days cause of my slow internet speed. So a negative attitude won't do any good, positive thinking,catlogs, sharing your findings, sharing your fixes, might see a change.
If you can't wait, build
onestyle007 said:
Tbh even though I have an h850 I don't see development stopping for custom ROMs on G5, it's being worked on. Slowly yeah,it's summer time,can't expect anyone to give up on some holiday and enjoyment to tinker around. Most of the stuff is already there to support RS988. LineageOS is official for G5,Mokee is official for G5 (2 versions on both for now), besides NFC bug(that's being worked on and there's already a half working solution) Bluetooth bug (not syncing to some products but working) and video saving( just a matter of time when it will be fixed) G5 in general is a fully supported by custom ROMs.We have a lot of unofficial builds too. Getting an official build instead of unofficial one is an advantage not a deal breaker and building your own build isn't that hard anyway. I've studied that for 5 days and have a build for H850 already. And it just took me 5 days cause of my slow internet speed. So a negative attitude won't do any good, positive thinking,catlogs, sharing your findings, sharing your fixes, might see a change.
If you can't wait, build
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Hiya, have you got any good guides I can possibly use to start building from source? I would love to do this.
Thanks
seraphism said:
Hiya, have you got any good guides I can possibly use to start building from source? I would love to do this.
Thanks
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I'm on my phone now,but have some bookmarked on my laptop. When I get home I'll pass some. For starters search XDA and use Google building Android from source, plus go on LineageOS manifest GitHub. Repo sync first,it will take a while. By the way, you'll need a stronger PC or laptop if you want to build fast also Linux or osx or on Windows you'll need Linux in virtual PC. SSD drive recommend.
Unscedeo said:
Yes, I understand everyone's thoughts about development stopping for the LG G5. I am rooted and the stock ROM is excellent, I was just simply inquiring about custom ROM status. Didn't mean to bug or annoy any developers. It would just be nice if there was support, that's all.
By the way, could you send me the link to this? That price is just insane. The lowest I've seen is $11 at Walmart.
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Unfortunately they are sold out now....
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Don't get Me wrong. I've put much efforts into this Phone since i still think it's a good piece of Hardware. I'm also Out of Money so i have to stick with it. But it makes Me crazy sometimes as a Ex Samsung, HTC, SONY and Nexus User/Dev to have a LG.
-The Sources
-The Community (XDA)
-The Bootloader (Recovery Access, Bootloader Message)
-The Build Quality (Light Shadows on the Display, the bottom Gap, Volume Rocker Stucks)
And the most Important Thing - UPDATES
We are using a 2016 Flagship and No Android 7.1? Still?
What about Android 0? Do we get a real Update or just a Copy OS from the V20? Like with the actual/past Updates?
I'm really done with LG. That they ditched us with the Modules is another Big Point for Me as G5 User. I would at least be more happy with a V20 since it wasn't a Joke like the G5....
For those interested, the following LG G5 variants have the same FCC ID of ZNFVS987:
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VS987 - Verizon Wireless variant
US992 - U.S. Cellular variant
RS988 - General North America variant
Presumably, the variants are of the same hardware, but have different firmware.
Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
onestyle007 said:
Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
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OK, great! Thank you for starting the development train.
I am new to this kind of stuff, but I am willing to do it. Is have some knowledge of ADB/Fastboot and looking at partitions. So basically what I need to do is extract the boot.img from my phone, and then create a device tree for the phone. Where should I put the tree when it's done?
Unscedeo said:
OK, great! Thank you for starting the development train.
I am new to this kind of stuff, but I am willing to do it. Is have some knowledge of ADB/Fastboot and looking at partitions. So basically what I need to do is extract the boot.img from my phone, and then create a device tree for the phone. Where should I put the tree when it's done?
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When all that is done,well then you or any other developer uses that tree with already synced repo from any of the custom ROMs along with the G5 repos to try and make a build.
First thing's first,to get a device tree. Building a rom from the source comes later, and luckily there's more than one tutorial on how to get it done. Then it's figuring out what doesn't work and how to fix it.
Source?
So I extracted boot.img, have the file. When I go to the link you gave me for creating a device tree, it says that I need the source code. Sorry if I'm acting like a noob, but where do I get that? I found this link: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgrs988, but I don't know if I should use it.
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So I extracted boot.img, have the file. When I go to the link you gave me for creating a device tree, it says that I need the source code. Sorry if I'm acting like a noob, but where do I get that? I found this link: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgrs988, but I don't know if I should use it.
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Can you screenshot what exactly it's asking from you? And by the way, I doubt it's lg open source, probably just google android source. But let me see it first.
By the way, another tut on how to make a device tree
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
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Can you screenshot what exactly it's asking from you? And by the way, I doubt it's lg open source, probably just google android source. But let me see it first.
By the way, another tut on how to make a device tree
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
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Never mind, I figured out how to unpack the boot.img. I now have the basic files created, including AndroidBoard.mk, AndroidProducts.mk, etc. I just created the files that are listed in this tutorial (the one you gave me): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
So I also found this on Github, which states that it is the device tree for the RS988: https://github.com/jcadduono/android_device_lge_rs988. I don't know if that is what you want me to make, and if it is, can we use that? If that isn't the right tree, I am currently on writing the BoardConfig.mk file, which is one of the steps in the tutorial mentioned above. it says to use a "cousin device" tree. What should I use for that?
Thanks
Thanks for this..
Again.. thanks for the heads up on how to get the ball rolling on this.. I should have some time to unlock my bootloader and post the boot.img and other necessary files this weekend..
Cheers!
onestyle007 said:
Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
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Any luck with our rs988? ?
Sent from my SM-G950N using Tapatalk
*deprecated*
The official 7.1.1 fastboot can be found here:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962157660013069727
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617956485
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291698642
there is a risk of hard brick?
can be returned to stock without hard brick problem?
llamas5124 said:
can be returned to stock without hard brick problem?
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I went from Soak Test 7.1.1 back to 6.0.1 firmware on my XT1607 using fastboot, and I had no problems.
Get and extract the firmware to a directory, go into the directory, and enter the following commands through fastboot:
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.0
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.1
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.2
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.3
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.4
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.5
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.6
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.7
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot reboot
Updated the OP with a new fastboot file of the latest soak test NPI26.48-30.
Q9Nap said:
Here is the latest Nougat Soak Test in fastboot flashable format.
It includes all partitions except gpt and bootloader, so you can safely downgrade back to your previous build if desired.
It also includes the latest moto fastboot binaries, along with batch scripts for windows and xml scripts for RSD Lite.
The flashfile scripts DO erase userdata and cache; the servicefile scripts do NOT erase userdata and cache.
Please remember to hit the "thanks" button if this file helps you!
NPI26.48-30 (Latest Latin America Nougat Soak Test)
sha-1: c7341da0ebbd98eb27612cc39bca358664e6804c
https://mega.nz/#!rdIFyIzR!0EHchuU1Xrh21UtWJL75HqJPsW0ZpKlAhnEsbQJdpq0
I've also made a TWRP flashable version, available here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/development/fxz-harpia-twrp-flashable-fastboots-t3554840
Credits:
Android
Lenovorola
@tal.aloni for SparseConverter posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2749797
@erfanoabdi for imgpatchtools posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ev-img-patch-tools-sdat2img-ota-zips-t3640308
@A.S._id for img repack tools posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600364
@xpirt for sdat tools posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../how-to-conver-lollipop-dat-files-to-t2978952
@EmersonTR for the Nougat SoakTest files posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/how-to/ota-android-7-1-1-moto-g-play-xt1603-t3633194
@althafvly for the link to the soak test NPI26.48-24 posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73566833&postcount=119
@PauloWesley for the link to the latest soak test NPI26.48-30 posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74074730&postcount=135
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i will test tomorrow this one thanks!!!
Psytan said:
i will test tomorrow this one thanks!!!
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Don't quote the OP.
Are they seriously still in beta for an official nougat rom???? I can't even understand why the hell this is taking so long. This may seriously be the last straw for me with Motorola. I've never seen another device so long in beta, and so long between releases. They aren't even trying to look like they give the slightest fvck about our device!!
hp420 said:
Are they seriously still in beta for an official nougat rom???? I can't even understand why the hell this is taking so long. This may seriously be the last straw for me with Motorola. I've never seen another device so long in beta, and so long between releases. They aren't even trying to look like they give the slightest fvck about our device!!
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Why should they? It is a low margin model that is essentially duplicated by the newer E4 which runs Nougat. Does not make business sense to throw resources at this device. Likely an issue with seamlessly delivering and installing a new version via OTA update. It would be nice if Lenevo simply posted the ROM and allowed those with motivation/skills to update manually.
Davey126 said:
Why should they? It is a low margin model that is essentially duplicated by the newer E4 which runs Nougat. Does make business sense to throw resources at this device. Likely an issue with seamlessly delivering and installing a new version via OTA update. It would be nice if Lenevo simply posted the ROM and allowed those with motivation/skills to update manually.
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That kept aside, I'm sure the majority of the users are really content with the near to stable ROMs that have being built by the devs over here. What's more, I feel like more and more N ROMs are about to come even now. Me? Well I'm more than happy with the N ROMs that are available, and really appreciate the effort of building O ROMs now. Hats off!
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That kept aside, I'm sure the majority of the users are really content with the near to stable ROMs that have being built by the devs over here. What's more, I feel like more and more N ROMs are about to come even now. Me? Well I'm more than happy with the N ROMs that are available, and really appreciate the effort of building O ROMs now. Hats off!
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Yep - developer response for this device has been fantastic!
I believe the expansion of 7.x based ROMs is due in part to the availability of Xposed for Nougat and the challenges getting "O" ROMs working on legacy hardware. Those issues will likely be ironed out in time. For now Nougat has most of what Oreo offers. Xposed can easily close any gaps.
I'm hanging with modified stock for now as it has been dead nuts reliable for core functionality. While AospExtended is my favorite custom ROM I can get pretty close with a few Xposed tweaks on stock MM.
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Why should they? It is a low margin model that is essentially duplicated by the newer E4 which runs Nougat. Does not make business sense to throw resources at this device. Likely an issue with seamlessly delivering and installing a new version via OTA update. It would be nice if Lenevo simply posted the ROM and allowed those with motivation/skills to update manually.
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a 6 month android rom beta from an oem is unacceptable, no matter how you slice it. i don't care how low margin it is. that was not taken into account when the beta was being built, and it should not be taken into account when deciding on a final release candidate. one man nougat rom builds have flooded this forum, yet a company like motorola can't even figure out how to get a PAID team of devs to pull their heads out of their asses and get a final STABLE rom built. i'm done with moto and lenovo after this. i've been burned far too many times by the lazy do-nothing oem devs who build for them!
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a 6 month android rom beta from an oem is unacceptable, no matter how you slice it. i don't care how low margin it is. that was not taken into account when the beta was being built, and it should not be taken into account when deciding on a final release candidate. one man nougat rom builds have flooded this forum, yet a company like motorola can't even figure out how to get a PAID team of devs to pull their heads out of their asses and get a final STABLE rom built. i'm done with moto and lenovo after this. i've been burned far too many times by the lazy do-nothing oem devs who build for them!
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Well I don't care whether or not they roll out official builds for their devices. Atleast, given the quality hardware they make, I'm sure I'll be stuck with Moto and Redmi unless I get to experience something better than them. The above mentioned two have got their aftermarket development communities, on which everyone, who is concious of their device's full potential, rely. I'm happy as long as we've got devs who work their arses off for the same.
TBH, idgaf if Moto give us N or not. I know these developers will.
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a 6 month android rom beta from an oem is unacceptable, no matter how you slice it. i don't care how low margin it is. that was not taken into account when the beta was being built, and it should not be taken into account when deciding on a final release candidate. one man nougat rom builds have flooded this forum, yet a company like motorola can't even figure out how to get a PAID team of devs to pull their heads out of their asses and get a final STABLE rom built. i'm done with moto and lenovo after this. i've been burned far too many times by the lazy do-nothing oem devs who build for them!
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Of course that is the way to influence change - with your wallet. Just need 10 million followers. I am sure there'll be a few takers. Lots of $100 USD phones with the same feature set, right? Makes you wonder why *anyone* is using a Lenovo/Moto POC.
Its also well know the grass is always greener in another yard. Clearly Google, HTC, LG, OnePlus, Samsung have had NO issues. Makes you wanna defect to Apple. Wait ...
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Of course that is the way to influence change - with your wallet. Just need 10 million followers. I am sure there'll be a few takers. Lots of $100 USD phones with the same feature set, right? Makes you wonder why *anyone* is using a Lenovo/Moto POC.
Its also well know the grass is always greener in another yard. Clearly Google, HTC, LG, OnePlus, Samsung have had NO issues. Makes you wanna defect to Apple. Wait ...
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Ok, be serious dude...this is my 4th moto in a row for a damn good reason, but having spent as much time as i have as a faithful moto user, i'm quickly losing my patience with the oem abandoning all my devices before they even officially hit store shelves. the only moto i've ever owned that was different was nexus 6, and i obviously don't need to explain how that was a different experience. before n6 i would never even consider a moto device..n6 was handed down to me by a family member who had a spare, and i QUICKLY fell in love with the build quality and (albeit 100% google's doing) incredible software support and firmware updates. the retail motos are quite literally the flip-side with software and firmware, and it is nothing short of the biggest disappointment with smartphones i've ever experienced.
also, comparing other oems and saying well none of these are any better does nothing to appease...saying well at least they're not this bad doesn't make mediocrity an ok thing
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Ok, be serious dude...this is my 4th moto in a row for a damn good reason, but having spent as much time as i have as a faithful moto user, i'm quickly losing my patience with the oem abandoning all my devices before they even officially hit store shelves. the only moto i've ever owned that was different was nexus 6, and i obviously don't need to explain how that was a different experience. before n6 i would never even consider a moto device..n6 was handed down to me by a family member who had a spare, and i QUICKLY fell in love with the build quality and (albeit 100% google's doing) incredible software support and firmware updates. the retail motos are quote literally the flip-side with software and firmware, and it is nothing short of the biggest disappointment with smartphones i've ever experienced.
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I fully agree with Moto's lack of execution on delivering major updates with many of their devices. I got caught as well with a 2nd gen Moto X that never received a promised bump to LP and later MM. I now buy lower end Lenovo devices with the expectation they will never receive a major update. I make different choices for higher end gadgets. That said, I won't own a daily driver that can't be bootloader unlocked and 'upgraded' with a custom ROM as needed. Life is too damn complex to burn hours trying to mess with a locked down device.
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I fully agree with Moto's lack of execution on delivering major updates with many of their devices. I got caught as well with a 2nd gen Moto X that never received a promised bump to LP and later MM. I now buy lower end Lenovo devices with the expectation they will never receive a major update. I make different choices for higher end gadgets. That said, I won't own a daily driver that can't be bootloader unlocked and 'upgraded' with a custom ROM as needed. Life is too damn complex to burn hours trying to mess with a locked down device.
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my concerns lie much more with a lack of official security updates than version updates. i think what i've said is perfectly reasonable, given the things many people use their device for these days. we may not have nfc support on this device, but one which does, lacks recent security updates, and is used for something like android pay is a MAJOR concern.
and before you say security updates come inherently with 3rd party roms, consider that you are entrusting financial info with some unknown developer when using android pay on any given 3rd party rom. at least a 1st party rom is provided by developrs who work for an oem that will take responsibility should any breach occur.
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my concerns lie much more with a lack of official security updates than version updates. i think what i've said is perfectly reasonable, given the things many people use their device for these days. we may not have nfc support on this device, but one which does, lacks recent security updates, and is used for something like android pay is a MAJOR concern.
and before you say security updates come inherently with 3rd party roms, consider that you are entrusting financial info with some unknown developer when using android pay on any given 3rd party rom. at least a 1st party rom is provided by developrs who work for an oem that will take responsibility should any breach occur.
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I'm comfortable with the security profile of all my Android devices on a variety of ROMs based on Android 4.4.4 to 7.1.2. Behaviors are far more important than technology, although the former should recognize and adapt to the risk/benefit adjusted exposures of the latter. Like you I wish security updates were pushed more consistently but the current state is not as horrific as the click bait centric media would have one believe. Interesting comment about 3rd party ROMs and independent developers (I prefer maintainers) reputation. I'll roll the dice. Experian anyone? Setting aside snarkiness it is pretty easy to spot shenanigans if one knows what to look for.
Bottom line: You have to be in your comfort zone - especially on a rooted device. If Leveno/Moto ain't doing it for you look to another device manufacturer.
Does this work on Verizon XT109?
mikaleee said:
Does this work on Verizon XT109?
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Assume you mean XT1609 (Verizon variant) - Nope.
Given no root and a locked bootloader you should avoid applying any updates outside the normal process. Likely it will simply fail, but if it does bork you are in a world of hurt with no life preserver.
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my concerns lie much more with a lack of official security updates than version updates. i think what i've said is perfectly reasonable, given the things many people use their device for these days. we may not have nfc support on this device, but one which does, lacks recent security updates, and is used for something like android pay is a MAJOR concern.
and before you say security updates come inherently with 3rd party roms, consider that you are entrusting financial info with some unknown developer when using android pay on any given 3rd party rom. at least a 1st party rom is provided by developrs who work for an oem that will take responsibility should any breach occur.
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You seem to have a misconception about how Android Pay works on custom ROMs. Your financial info is not entrusted with the ROM's maintainer, but rather Google themselves (and even then, you don't use your actual credit card info to pay with Android Pay). SafetyNet and Android Pay's token system are all things controlled by Google. All devs do is be like John Wu and make/flash Magisk to use it while still having root.
I know the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader; but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community? Or, will this device end up dead and forgotten just like the S7 I upgraded from?
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but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community?
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Bootloader unlock: 0.00033%
Root: 6.22%
kcodya said:
Bootloader unlock: 0.00033%
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Figured as much. Probably should have gone with a different phone then, I suppose. I'm just tired of expensive products being locked down so tightly.
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I know the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader; but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community? Or, will this device end up dead and forgotten just like the S7 I upgraded from?
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Unlocked, prolly not. Samsung is serious about security.
Root? Yeah, I am sure it can be done. There are some recent exploits in 8.0 and 8.1 that were not patched until the March security patch. We don't have that security patch yet so this is a chance there.
Scott said:
Unlocked, prolly not. Samsung is serious about security.
Root? Yeah, I am sure it can be done. There are some recent exploits in 8.0 and 8.1 that were not patched until the March security patch. We don't have that security patch yet so this is a chance there.
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A good, clean root? One that doesn't bring the device to a crawl and needs a ton of workarounds like the S7? Probably sounds like I'm being unappreciative of the work done with such exploits, but I assure you I'm not. I've had plenty of devices with great communities in the past, but I just feel that root is pointless if it isn't 100% stable.
Maybe I'll just start setting aside some cash for the next Google Pixel; or whatever they call it if they don't change the name again.
Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Take out all the Samsung logging and tracking. That's all I want to do.
vintagerock said:
Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Remove bloatware, install Viper4Android, make true backups of my device, along with an unlocked bootloader we can have faster updates through the use of custom roms, better customization options. These are a few things I'd like but can't because some company has decided that it isn't in my, the customer, best interest.
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Remove bloatware, install Viper4Android, make true backups of my device, along with an unlocked bootloader we can have faster updates through the use of custom roms, better customization options. These are a few things I'd like but can't because some company has decided that it isn't in my, the customer, best interest.
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Eh. I thought voper4android was always a little too heavy. All of the settings the phone natively has plus 3rd party launchers gives a heck of a lot of customization options.
I'm not trying to down anybody who likes to root. If I could I probably would. I just think those days are slowly fading.
965U Root?
http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965u-star2qlte-easily/
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Eh. I thought voper4android was always a little too heavy. All of the settings the phone natively has plus 3rd party launchers gives a heck of a lot of customization options.
I'm not trying to down anybody who likes to root. If I could I probably would. I just think those days are slowly fading.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nova Launcher and have been using it for several years now; however, it doesn't affect the entire system. I have to use Samsung's themes to take care of settings and the built-in stock apps. I'd much rather have just one method of theming that handles everything; hence my desire to use custom roms.
As far as Viper goes, I can understand why it wouldn't be for everyone, but the built-in Dolby Atmos option sounds like garbage to me no matter what source I'm playing audio through. This is one reason why I miss my Galaxy Tab S 8.4".
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965U Root?
http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965u-star2qlte-easily/
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That has to be for the Exynos variant as they're talking about installing TWRP. Snapdragon variant can't install a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader; which is unlikely for us. However, I think there has been some progress toward a root method (don't quote me on that), but no actual root yet.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nova Launcher and have been using it for several years now; however, it doesn't affect the entire system. I have to use Samsung's themes to take care of settings and the built-in stock apps. I'd much rather have just one method of theming that handles everything; hence my desire to use custom roms.
As far as Viper goes, I can understand why it wouldn't be for everyone, but the built-in Dolby Atmos option sounds like garbage to me no matter what source I'm playing audio through. This is one reason why I miss my Galaxy Tab S 8.4".
That has to be for the Exynos variant as they're talking about installing TWRP. Snapdragon variant can't install a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader; which is unlikely for us. However, I think there has been some progress toward a root method (don't quote me on that), but no actual root yet.
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Well, it clearly states that it's for the 965U. I'm just reporting what I read, but I'm no developer or any expert so who knows.
xoneatom said:
Well, it clearly states that it's for the 965U. I'm just reporting what I read, but I'm no developer or any expert so who knows.
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That it does! I didn't see the 5 at the end of 965U.
Perhaps it's due to a lack of sleep, but I seem to be missing something with these model numbers. 965U shows to be the Snapdragon variant, but all other sources say there's no root method. I'm just going to stop worrying about it all at this point and quietly wait in the corner while the experts take care of business. Lol
Hello,
I would like to hear your opinion on those two devices
LG V30 and Galaxy S8 Active.
Seems like it boils down to
V30 has good sound with appropriate speakers/headphones.
vs
S8active is rugged with bigger battery, couple hundreds less in price, and has a way to unlock their bootloader.
Did I miss anything else? What negatives would be in each model? How is development picking up for each of them?
I still use Nexus 5 with custom ROM (pureNexus) , mostly staying offline, so no real exposure to newer features.
orld said:
S8active is rugged with bigger battery, couple hundreds less in price, and has a way to unlock their bootloader.
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V30 also has bootloader unlock, root and ROMs. You left that out. I have one in my hand right now. As we knew since last September, you just have to buy the right variants. Same as with the LG G6.
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How is development picking up for each of them?
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You are POSTING in the XDA V30 forum and asking about development of the V30? Scroll down to the Development section and take a look. Don't be lazy. We have TWRP, ROMs, root, kernels. What else is there? Yes, they are mostly all stock based ROMs, since LOS isn't fully developed yet but it's a work in progress.
LG V30 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Development
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
ChazzMatt said:
V30 also has bootloader unlock, root and ROMs. You left that out. I have one in my hand right now. As we knew since last September, you just have to buy the right variants. Same as with the LG G6.
You are POSTING in the XDA V30 forum and asking about development of the V30? Scroll down to the Development section and take a look. Don't be lazy. We have TWRP, ROMs, root, kernels. What else is there? Yes, they are mostly all stock based ROMs, since LOS isn't fully developed yet but it's a work in progress.
LG V30 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Development
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
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Seems this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-partcyborgrom-galaxy-s8-active-t3747788 has bootloader unlock procedure.
Now, I am monitoring activity on V30 on daily basis, and paying attention to the dev thread since the beginning.
I am well aware of your sincere love and pride of the V30, and I don't want to step on your toes.
Sorry if I irritated you.
But initial happy predictions did not go through, on LGUS988 you have to obtain unlock permission through the url modification, not that is openly listed.
Then availability of V30 is so so,
V30+ seems to be locked forever,
Artificial bands locking, depending on a ROM ...
That's just not clear that LG wants community in their development.
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Seems this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-partcyborgrom-galaxy-s8-active-t3747788 has bootloader unlock procedure.
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I really don't care if Galaxy S8 active has some (unauthorized) boot unlock procedure. As I pointed out, so does some V30 (some "authorized" by LG, some semi-authorized -- the IMEI for the US998 is in the LG website database, LG put it there but never made an announcement) -- and those three variants (H930, H930DS, open market US998 V30) all have root, TWRP, ROMs.
In my view only the new 2018 Galaxy S9/S9+ really compete with the V30, and I would still like the V30, due to the "just right" size in between those two other phones.
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Now, I am monitoring activity on V30 on daily basis, and paying attention to the dev thread since the beginning.
I am well aware of your sincere love and pride of the V30, and I don't want to step on your toes.
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Your can't have it both ways, saying you're clueless about V30 dev work and then saying you've been monitoring it daily since the beginning? You either already know or you don't. Which is it?
Maybe there's something I'm misunderstanding.
I only told you to look in the development section for dev work -- since you're already here posting in this V30 forum -- and that's still the best answer.
Let me rephrase myself, what are the future of V30 development in terms of getting something like Google edition ROM, or Lineage? or let's say a near stock ROM that enables all the GSM bands with VoIP hooks for each carrier (how it's done in Pixels), we are talking about carrier unlocked phone aren't we?
Would Oreo brings that functionality to V30? that's a big question
Would you expect developers already dive in on such features if sources are available? That would be a reasonable expectation...
Right now there is some activity in tweaking stock ROM, some activity around sound system and some visual themes, that's about it.
There is more activity on development, in telegram channels, on a personal levels, more then I possibly could trace, this why i asked a question about development and it's fate.
Aesthetically wise, I am with you and definitely prefer V30.
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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If you never rooted before, you have to read a lot before taking chances. There is always the risk of bricking your device. That being said, root gives you a lot of freedom to customize way beyond what stock allows. And you definitely will be able to update after LGs expiration date goes by. And there are lots of guides and help. @chazzmat has contributed a lot on this and many others here. And if you do your homework before dipping in you will probably do fine.
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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AT&T? Do you have a H931? If yes, AOSP based ROMs will only bootloop on your device :/
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
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What model variant do you have? For instance just Frankenstein converting any of the eligible North America carrier variants to carrier unlocked US998 model will remove most bloatware right there -- as it doesn't have any carrier bloatware.
Sure there's still stuff like LG Health, Facebook and Instagram -- but I do use LG Health. With root you can remove or freeze (with Titanium Backup) what do not want. Root gives you real "ownership", even if you don't install custom ROMs.
Also note the difference between stock-based ROMs and AOSP/LOS based ROMs.
As part of being the Google Enterprise Recommended program, LG had to commit to giving at 90 day updates for three years. This requirement kicked in once on Oreo. Yes the updates will probably mostly be the most recent Android security update, but the last US998 (20B) included silent notification fix. If you want to see abandonment, see what happens to the G7 and V35 which don't have that guarantee. Here's all the Google Enterprise Recommended program, if you are curious. For LG, it's only the V30 and G6.
https://www.android.com/enterprise/recommended/
Stay current with updates
Android Enterprise Recommended helps ensure devices are up to date with regular security patches delivered within 90 days (for 3 years, it says elsewhere).
Android Enterprise Recommended devices are also guaranteed to get at least one additional major OS update
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We'll probably get P (Pistachio?) but it'll probably be next summer. The Google Enterprise Recommended program also calls for at least one major OS letter update. I don't think LG can count the Nougat to Oreo upgrade, because they had to be on Oreo anyway to be on the Enterprise Recommended list.
Yes, we were promised 8.1 as part of the Google business program announcement, and it was 8.0. I don't know why.
I can't see LG giving both 8.1 and P to all their V30 models by next summer, so you're probably right you won't see 8.1 on stock unrooted firmware. But ROMs, even the stock-based ones can add features or fix problems.
With LG, their Korean carrier variants get all updates first (since all models are released there first), then trickle around the rest of the world. Once the Korea carrier variants got 8.0, nobody else was getting 8.1 until the Korea variants then get 8.1 (or whatever comes next for the V30).
As Oreo rolled out around the world for the V30, some people were breathlessly waiting to see if THEY would somehow magically get 8.1. No, LG doesn't change like that. To do that, they would have to cancel the scheduled round of updates, and start all over again with the Korean carrier variants -- rolling out 8.1 to them first. India, of course is last, because the V30 series was released there last.
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AT&T? Do you have a H931? If yes, AOSP based ROMs will only bootloop on your device :/
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Yes l, I have an H931, but I've read that if I convert to US998 I can still do it.
EatMoreB8con said:
Yes l, I have an H931, but I've read that if I convert to US998 I can still do it.
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Yes, actually you HAVE to convert to US998 to do it, so you have the requisite fastboot flash commands.
If for some reason you can't install AOSP ROMs on your converted H931>US998 ( @SGCMarkus knows more about his ROMs than I do, so I defer to him), there's still stock-based custom ROMs you can install which have improvements/fixes -- like Boombox and A.I.S. @SGCMarkus even made one, but it seems it's not been updated recently as he probably spends all his waking moments keeping about half a dozen AOSP ROMs updated! He's a one-man army.
He also is responsible for our updated TWRP.
you can install aosp roms on the converted h931, but the problem is that they will bootloop for some reason.
same for the h933 if i remember correctly
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Yes, actually you HAVE to convert to US998 to do it, so you have the requisite fastboot flash commands.
If for some reason you can't install AOSP ROMs on your converted H931>US998 @SGCMarkus knows more about his ROMs than I do, so I defer to him), there's still stock-based custom ROMs you can install which have improvements/fixes -- like Boombox and A.I.S. @SGCMarkus even made one but it seems it's not been updated recently as he probably spends all his waking moments keeping a dozen ROMs updated! He's a one-man army.
He also is responsible for our updated TWRP.
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Well I'll be sure to build a shrine for him if I ever go through with this lol. Thanks for the info.
Root: yes
Custom Rom: not necessarily.
Once you properly debloat it's a different experience already.
EatMoreB8con said:
Never done anything with custom roms or rooting before, but I am getting sick an tired of the design, functionality, bloatware, and stability of the default LG rom on my LG V30. I'm also upset with LG's abandonment of the device. They've made multiple devices in order to bury the LG V30. It took months to get 8.0, and not the promised 8.1, and now I fear I'll never see it.
I've looked at DotOS, and I really like the design and features of the rom, and there's the fact that I'll actually get updates. What should I do? Should I attempt the installation of DotOS on my device, or should I stay away to avoid bricking it?
Are the few lost features worth the many new ones?
Where should I start in learning how to do this stuff safely?
I planned on using on old android device in order to "practice", but read that the firmware/software used by AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6 isn't able to be bootloader unlocked. so seems like I can't do that anymore.
Thanks
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If you havent rooted yet there's a temporary solution that i can provide which i am personally using.
Regarding the bloatware and ui etc.
1. Get the app Package disabler pro, disable all the bloatware u want.U can disable anything and everything, even the camera , messaging app, dialer etc.
2. replace all the stock apps or whichever u want, with any other custom apps like the dialer, or messaging app or the launcher etc.
3. for overcoming monotony keep changing the themes and wallpapers