Since kenzo already has AOSP & NOS oreo build available, i just wanted to know if the builds are project treble enabled or not. If not, why not?
no it wont have treble. OEM and qualcomnn must provide drivers etc from a very low level so that it works well. kenzo only had marshmellow, so definetely no. if the device came with android O then it will have.
It's a lot of work which cannot be done by a single person or a team. Even Google has to team up with the silicon vendors and oem to try bring it to current flagships. Lineage Gerrit has some treble related commits, who knows, anything can happen. But it's mostly unlikely.
Hi,
Has Android Oreo brought Project Treble to the Honor 9?
PalakMi posted here (#6 comment) that since Honor devices has a separate vendor partition Android Oreo could bring project treble to them.
brugarolaspablo said:
Hi,
Has Android Oreo brought Project Treble to the Honor 9?
PalakMi posted here (#6 comment) that since Honor devices has a separate vendor partition Android Oreo could bring project treble to them.
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@oldroid already works on it .... here
brugarolaspablo said:
Hi,
Has Android Oreo brought Project Treble to the Honor 9?
PalakMi posted here (#6 comment) that since Honor devices has a separate vendor partition Android Oreo could bring project treble to them.
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h9 oreo got the full treble implementation.
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brugarolaspablo said:
Hi,
Has Android Oreo brought Project Treble to the Honor 9?
PalakMi posted here (#6 comment) that since Honor devices has a separate vendor partition Android Oreo could bring project treble to them.
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If you go to the treble thread, you'll see that someone already running AOSP on Honor 9
Really interested to know if someone else tried this treble rom. Please share any feedback if you had.
ayziaa said:
Really interested to know if someone else tried this treble rom. Please share any feedback if you had.
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+1
OldDroid said:
h9 oreo got the full treble implementation.
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I thought only phones shipped with oreo had proper partitions for treble?! And that phones updated to oreo after could not be partitioned because it could brick your phone.
ayziaa said:
I thought only phones shipped with oreo had proper partitions for treble?! And that phones updated to oreo after could not be partitioned because it could brick your phone.
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applies to qcom phones but not to kirin socs.
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OldDroid said:
applies to qcom phones but not to kirin socs.
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even with an ota update?
ayziaa said:
even with an ota update?
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i know that it could be done, but was not necessarily required for manufacturers.
And yes, huawei enabled treble via an ota update to android 8/emui8 - btw huawei has the new partitions since nougat.
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Thank you for answering my questions, I have a last one . Considering that with treble only system partition is flashed, from my understanding, kernel is stock and works with the treble custom rom, is it possible that a device like the honor 9 could get a treble AOSP Android P Rom in the future or that Oero kernel would need to be updated with a full stock EMUI Android P update?
ayziaa said:
Thank you for answering my questions, I have a last one . Considering that with treble only system partition is flashed, from my understanding, kernel is stock and works with the treble custom rom, is it possible that a device like the honor 9 could get a treble AOSP Android P Rom in the future or that Oero kernel would need to be updated with a full stock EMUI Android P update?
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From what I read around the web, it is possible.
ayziaa said:
Thank you for answering my questions, I have a last one . Considering that with treble only system partition is flashed, from my understanding, kernel is stock and works with the treble custom rom, is it possible that a device like the honor 9 could get a treble AOSP Android P Rom in the future or that Oero kernel would need to be updated with a full stock EMUI Android P update?
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i dont think that it will be that easy to port a new major android version, but we'll see how google handles the vendor versioning part.
It is already a big struggle to get 8.1 running upon 8.0 treble implementation, just because fundamental things changed in the main treble implementation.
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OldDroid said:
i dont think that it will be that easy to port a new major android version, but we'll see how google handles the vendor versioning part.
It is already a big struggle to get 8.1 running upon 8.0 treble implementation, just because fundamental things changed in the main treble implementation.
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Great to have all this informations, helps me understand better what is treble. Good luck on your 8.1 port.
OldDroid said:
i dont think that it will be that easy to port a new major android version, but we'll see how google handles the vendor versioning part.
It is already a big struggle to get 8.1 running upon 8.0 treble implementation, just because fundamental things changed in the main treble implementation.
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Is there any post where I can read more about those problems? I thought it would be the same underlying vendor layer between versions from now on :/
Is there a reason why every custom ROM seems to go treble? There's no real proven benefit when having unofficial treble. As one of the LineageOS devs said on their subreddit:
You don't get treble. You have it or you don't. All those "ported treble" are plain fake and they don't have the same capabilities of the "real" treble (the one that you have on your device out of the box or from your manufacturer as a stock ROM update).
This because treble requires appropriate changes to the proprietary files (those stored on the vendor partition) that a device without "stock/real" treble won't have
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There's only one partition instead of both. The one for seamless updates is missing (I think).
As for treble ROMs, they are pretty much a gimmick unless devs actually make use of them. But I have seen reddit comments about people trying out generic system images via treble TWRP: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/8ac2gc/project_treble_is_amazing_and_because_of_this_my/
You can try it for yourself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
What this could mean is, in 2 years if dev support drops for the Note 4, you may still be able to get the most recent version of AOSP or some other ROM as a generic system image. No need to wait around for devs to create ROMs or compile one yourself.
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
mona356 said:
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
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I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
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I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
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The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
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The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
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Xiaomi however isn't listening their customers. A big example is ARB system which absolutely destroys devices. So i guess we are gonna stay dead until something shows up..
Hello s9+ users.
Although there is a couple 9.0 and 8.1 gsi build....there is a whole forum on xda with builds....my question is...
Will the other project treble forums builds work?
I know our phone is arm64 but some builds say arm64-a or arm64-a/b ..... what would I flash?
Thank you
biggary said:
Hello s9+ users.
Although there is a couple 9.0 and 8.1 gsi build....there is a whole forum on xda with builds....my question is...
Will the other project treble forums builds work?
I know our phone is arm64 but some builds say arm64-a or arm64-a/b ..... what would I flash?
Thank you
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Not really 100% sure, but I'm guessing the kernel may matter. If your on an Exynos device, and most GSI are built for snapdragon I'd assume since that's the majority of devices. Not sure it it's cross-processor or not, but something to look into.