On Samsung's old TV OS is was rather easy to manually backup apps from the TV. Once you'd the app on your PC, you could manually sideload the apps back to the tv. In the end, this would allow users to combine apps from different regions (say Hulu from the US and the BBC iPlayer from the UK) on the same TV set.
Is this still possible somehow on the Tizen-based TVs?
Can you manually download an "official" app" from your tv and push it back to the same or another Tizen TV using the developer account?
Anyone managed to do this? Or got access to a rooted Tizen tv?
Anyone? Still looking to do this...
Also interested in this.
It *should* be possible.
If you have a USB port on your TV, a USB-A to USB-A cable should work. Plug one end in to your computer and the other in to the TV. Fire up sdb and see if it gets picked up by the computer.
I don't have a tizen tv, so I can't test myself, but it should be similar to other tizen devices
Searching for "easy" Firmware for Investigation...
If I remember correct, my last attempt ends with some encrypted TV Firmware...
Need some file, where I can extract files...
Any ideas? :angel:
Thanx in advance.
Best Regards
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Google search... "first bl..d"
https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=13069
Now i need some time to check posts and so on... to find maybe Firmware for Investigation...
https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=11715
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https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?p=98339#p98339
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Still I don't know how to use this VDFS... Arghhhh... Maybe this helps me...
https://labs.f-secure.com/blog/samsung-q60r-smart-tv-opening-up-the-samsung-q60-series-smart-tv/
I would be curious to what can be done on these. I recently upgraded from an older TV to a Samsung with Tizen. I already see a forced "sponsored" app that shows on left of the screen when I press home and the Sling TV App doesn't seem to recognize the AirTV feature of Sling.
TOMillr said:
On Samsung's old TV OS is was rather easy to manually backup apps from the TV. Once you'd the app on your PC, you could manually sideload the apps back to the tv. In the end, this would allow users to combine apps from different regions (say Hulu from the US and the BBC iPlayer from the UK) on the same TV set.
Is this still possible somehow on the Tizen-based TVs?
Can you manually download an "official" app" from your tv and push it back to the same or another Tizen TV using the developer account?
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In a moment of madness the other day, I ordered one of these devices. I've had some experience of Android on an HTC Wildfire & Archos 101 so thought it would be a relatively safe bet. But oh no.
Can't find a way to access photos on a Windows Media Connect server with the supplied apps & of course, there's no user guide supplied. Look online & the current user guide is for Gingerbread when the device has Froyo. So I thought I'd check & see if Gingerbread has been released in the UK & if that made any difference. Dear old Samsung can't be like other manufacturers & provide a simple "check for software update" in the settings menu, that would be far too simple. No, you need to download & install a Windows program & update via USB. Now while a PITA, would be just about acceptable if Samsung had ever in their history written a decent piece of Windows software - which they haven't. PC Studio & Emodio being two examples of flaky software with pigeon English. So no surprise whatsoever when Kies proves to be yet another piece of ****.
Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine? Just sits there trying to connect. No errors, no timeout, just sits there.
When posting here, you really need to post your variant... 4.0 or 5.0?
I'm surprised you're still on Froyo - usually it's United States customers that get screwed on updates but both the 4.0 and 5.0 are on Gingerbread I'm fairly certain.
Apologies, too busy ranting, it's 5.0.
After trying an XP machine with another USB cable I've discovered that the device has to be manually placed into Kies mode under Settings > USB. Again, why can't they just prompt when the USB is connected like other manufacturers?!
Anyway, so now I finally have Kies running & it tells me that despite the current online manual being for Gingerbread, Froyo is the latest available. Think I'll just give up, send it back & write a big note to self never to buy anything from Samsung again.
"Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine?"
Yes, because you have to set the USB mode to KIES mode. That is for Gingerbread; I do not know if that is the case for Froyo, or why you have the old system.
I have a 5.0, never used Kies and don't plan to. USB set on "Mass Storage", connects with USB instantly. I'm on W7. Must used USB cable provided (unless you're lucky and found another that works, many don't). Never used Media Connect, can't help you there, I just dragged all my MP3 into the extrernal SD card.
crocodile said:
In a moment of madness the other day, I ordered one of these devices. I've had some experience of Android on an HTC Wildfire & Archos 101 so thought it would be a relatively safe bet. But oh no.
Can't find a way to access photos on a Windows Media Connect server with the supplied apps & of course, there's no user guide supplied. Look online & the current user guide is for Gingerbread when the device has Froyo. So I thought I'd check & see if Gingerbread has been released in the UK & if that made any difference. Dear old Samsung can't be like other manufacturers & provide a simple "check for software update" in the settings menu, that would be far too simple. No, you need to download & install a Windows program & update via USB. Now while a PITA, would be just about acceptable if Samsung had ever in their history written a decent piece of Windows software - which they haven't. PC Studio & Emodio being two examples of flaky software with pigeon English. So no surprise whatsoever when Kies proves to be yet another piece of ****.
Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine? Just sits there trying to connect. No errors, no timeout, just sits there.
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I have a 5.0 from the UK as well and the 2.3.5 Gingerbread ODIN version posted in the Android Dev section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389809) works fine on our devices. It even saves you the hassle of using Kies which is a giant pain.
As for Windows Media Connect, not exactly sure what protocol it uses but you may have some luck with the AllShare app provided by Samsung (unsure if it was included in the Froyo version but it is definitely standard in Gingerbread.) Hope you have some luck as it really is a great device once you get past the initial humps. Let us know how it goes.
Thanks guys.
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Yes, because you have to set the USB mode to KIES mode. That is for Gingerbread; I do not know if that is the case for Froyo, or why you have the old system.
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Worked that out in the end thanks. According to this thread, Gingerbread isn't released in the UK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362386
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I have a 5.0 from the UK as well ..
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Seen the Odin option but don't really want to start hacking in case it does need to go back. Haven't looked to see if Odin can revert back to Froyo. If it can I may give it a go but hearing reports that Gingerbread knackers the GPS receiver.
AFAIK, Media Connect is just another DLNA. The Gallery app seems to have no option to view anything on the LAN & AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!
The hardware seems decent enough but I'm not sure I have the will or desire to source replacements for every pre-installed app. My worry going forward is that Samsung pull their usual stunt of "Here's a new model, we don't have to bother with the (6 month) old one now"...
I use File Expert to view/move files/pictures on my home PC, does a wireless connection (as do many explorers). FX File Explorer is also nice (as well as Astro and ES Strong). Most pre-installed apps on any device have much better free counter parts. I don't think I'm use anything that came with the phone (other than system stuff), and I'm not rooted (yet)... but will be so I can get rid of it all for good. Although there's tons of app space, so doesn't bother me much at the moment.
Music Player: Cubed
File Explorer: File Expert
Tasks: Any.do
Calls: GrooveIP
Mail: K9
Photos: Quickpic
Texting: Google Voice
Camera: Camera Zoom
Apps:: Appbrain
Calendar: Yes I am using default calendar! (with Simple Cal Widget)
Kindle Reader
Not much there that came with it!
tcat007 said:
I have a 5.0, never used Kies and don't plan to. USB set on "Mass Storage", connects with USB instantly. I'm on W7. Must used USB cable provided (unless you're lucky and found another that works, many don't). Never used Media Connect, can't help you there, I just dragged all my MP3 into the extrernal SD card.
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All of my USB cables work with the device (from N900, N950, various other phones) so I'm not sure why people have troubles with this. But I may just be lucky.
Re Windows Media Connect server, does the pre-installed app called "AllShare" not work?
lardman said:
Re Windows Media Connect server, does the pre-installed app called "AllShare" not work?
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AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!
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Can't be sure without any proper documentation but it appears to be limited as above.
I'm really not sure the device offers enough to make the effort of rooting in order to uninstall all the garbage worth while.
I'd like to think that the lack of an official Gingerbread release means Samsung are working on fixing the bugs. But my previous experience of their products makes me think otherwise.
Lack of Gingerbread is more likely something weird that's UK-specific... In the US, it's been Gingerbread from the beginning and I think international devices in the rest of the world are too.
I have never had good results with UPnP media format support on any device - even my PS3 is really damn finicky. However it's annoying that the G70 seems to have issues with UPnP streaming of stuff it plays locally.
I rarely view photos on my phone and haven't ever done it on the player, but in my case I have a Smugmug account so I just browse my galleries that way.
It seems like unfortunately your usage patterns are in a corner case where the device doesn't do so well. UPnP support is kinda "meh" - but as I said I've never seen any device where it wasn't. An iPod touch would probably do just as badly trying to browse photos via UPnP.
AllShare plays my HD video files on my server
"AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!"
I have used AllShare. It sees all of my video files files on my server (just a home computer that shares). And I have played 640x480 AVI video files and a 720p wmv video file from my server smooth as butter and with great resolution on the SGP. It will not stream or play 1080p video files, however (which is in accord with the specs).
For what it's worth, I have no 720 files never mind 1080. AllShare can see them all (a mixture of AVI & MPG mostly) but won't play them. However, I can create a shortcut to them with ES FIle Explorer & play them all fine with Rockplayer. Guess I need to find a photo viewer than can do the same.
We are seeking a method to hack into the Vizio WiFi (internet enabled) TVs which we believe run on Android, and add apps. The first app would be a browser, Chrome for example.
Please let us know if you have knowledge of how to do this.
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We are seeking a method to hack into the Vizio WiFi (internet enabled) TVs which we believe run on Android, and add apps. The first app would be a browser, Chrome for example.
Please let us know if you have knowledge of how to do this.
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They do not run on android, unless you somehow got ahold of a brand new 2013 model that is based on the same firmware in Vizio's Co-Star (the Google TV box by Vizio) - and I'm not even sure the new line of TVs will be 'GoogleTV based', I just know they plan on dropping Yahoo... hopefully that firmware is retro-active and I can upgrade to it... doubtful, very doubtful, but still - hopefully?
My Vizio E3D470VX uses Yahoo! internet TV services.... which (IMO) suck. From what probing has been done, it appears to run on Linux, possibly a modded version of Ubuntu which supports the Yahoo! TV apps... more like widgets in my opinion, but whatever at least its 3D.
Here is what is known so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36898270
Here is what it could look like *IF* it did run android / was based on Google TV similar to the new Vizio Co-star box: http://www.googletvforum.org/forum/...into-3-000-vizio-samsung-lg-look-like-tv.html
Honestly I was kind of mad when I saw an article about the Co-Star Google TV box.... because it had the EXACT same remote sitting next to it, with the qwerty keyboard on the back, just like my remote has.... Only the qwerty keyboard on my remote never gets used and is pointless..... I really hope someone can hack this to run some form of android, or even a linux based XBMC add-on ... at the least some sort of custom firmware option... anything should be better than what it is, especially the interface for DLNA/UPNP and USB drives....
Simple solution: buy equiso from your local wal-mart. Plug it into the hdmi port in the back. From equiso, run any Android apps you want from the App Store. Need to have Wi-Fi or a wireless tether for internet access, FYI. Equiso runs Android 4.3 I believe.
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Am I missing something here? App is not compatible with some of your devices.
Htc Evo- check
Transformer Tablet- no check
I need to understand the developer side of this coin. I have been trying to persuade Jawbone to update their android app "Jawbone Companion" to support my tablet. I don't know, but I assume their would be a publisher option in Google Play to add or delete supported devices so that they cannot be installed on those from the Play store. For example, I had to go to the website to find the app because search shows no results on the tablet.
It's a bluetooth headset. It supports 2.1+edr. App supported on Android OS 4.0, OS 2.3 and select OS 2.2 phones. Transformer tf300 has bluetooth. It supports 3.0+edr. It has ICS and is certainly more capable than a 2.2 phone.
Sooo the only difference I see from this side is a bigger screen. I have emailed at least 3 app makers that I use frequently and they just keep saying it's not tablet supported. So do they just have to add devices to some file that cross checks with Google Play or is the code for my tablet so drastically different that they would have to write a whole new app for tablets?
A technical explanation link of the whole developer process regarding this would be nice.
Update to OP
I have found a method of downloading apk files in the Chrome browser with the APK Downloader extension. It only works with Chrome and I logged into my wife's account, did a quick search for my apps in question, then proceeded to download them to pc by making play think it was sending the apk to my wife's "supported" phone. Then I manually transferred the apks to my "unsupported" tablet where they are now running fine, no errors and no resolution problems.
I have emailed the developers of these apps and they have blown me off by saying that tablets in general are not supported, I emailed them all back telling them their apps were working fine and I didn't understand why they couldn't have allowed me to just download it the easy way.
So are they just being lazy? This just reinforces my reasoning that the phone and tablet are about the same and don't require any more coding than any other app that has problems on certain phones. Seems to me as long as the resolution is high enough and it allows auto rotation that any phone app should run on a tablet, and I don't see why they all keep telling me apps are not supported.
Until then I guess I'll just get my apps the way I described.
yap the apkdownloader would be the way i recomended to you =)
dunno why they dont support tablets
in some cases u dont have to understand them
feel lucky u find a way to make it work
Long story short I had to factory reset my Shield Android TV and now I can't re-activate HBO Go on it (due to the AT&T/DirectTV merger and the account getting screwed up). Is it possible to copy the data from my Google ADT-1 to my Shield Android TV so it will appear as have being activated (it was previously)? Both are rooted. Thank you.
Edit - duh, how could I forget about Titanium...well, it wasn't working for me on Android TV, so I used Clockworkmod's Helium - did the trick for me. Awesome! Now I need to figure out how to do it on my Samsung Smart TVs (Tizen)...
Anyone have a working app for the Shield as of yet for Apple TV +?
Cheers
Apple TV+ 1.2 apk works but when you go to sign in it requires something from the Fire TV firmware to complete.
I tried it but it doesn't work.
None work right now... seems most are counting on the release of Sony's APK for it to work.
Hi,
is there still no way to play Apple TV+ Stuff on Android without an iPhone/iPad?
Every newest version from the FireTV won´t work cause i need to install the latest FireTV Firmware ...
korkie said:
Hi,
is there still no way to play Apple TV+ Stuff on Android without an iPhone/iPad?
Every newest version from the FireTV won´t work cause i need to install the latest FireTV Firmware ...
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you can use browser then cast it to nstv or open tv.apple.com in a browser
Sorry for a stupid question and please don't link anything here if it violates any rules:
Where do people find a legit version of the APK?
Thinking about trying this on my Philips Android-TV and if that fails on my Odroid-C4 running Android.
Don't know how kinky sideloading an app is usually i.e. trying the APK for Shield / FireTV wouldn't work on either my TV (pref.) or "HTPC"?
Sorry for hijacking a bit, will do a separate thread if it is required (and allowed).
Best Regards / TheSwede86
TheSwede86 said:
Sorry for a stupid question and please don't link anything here if it violates any rules:
Where do people find a legit version of the APK?
Thinking about trying this on my Philips Android-TV and if that fails on my Odroid-C4 running Android.
Don't know how kinky sideloading an app is usually i.e. trying the APK for Shield / FireTV wouldn't work on either my TV (pref.) or "HTPC"?
Sorry for hijacking a bit, will do a separate thread if it is required (and allowed).
Best Regards / TheSwede86
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personally i dont have time to teach the basics on adb sideloading an app.. it should work on shield easily if ur connected to it properly and running the right commands in adb..
theres thousands of guides online about adb and adb install.. the apple tv+ app doesnt work on nstv however at this time so even sideloading the app will not work.. the only method ive used is to use web browser then go to tv.apple.com and play the videos through the web browser
elliwigy said:
personally i dont have time to teach the basics on adb sideloading an app.. it should work on shield easily if ur connected to it properly and running the right commands in adb..
theres thousands of guides online about adb and adb install.. the apple tv+ app doesnt work on nstv however at this time so even sideloading the app will not work.. the only method ive used is to use web browser then go to tv.apple.com and play the videos through the web browser
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I think you might have misunderstood what I was getting at;
I know how to sideload an app but it was just a general question on how kinky an app developed for a certain device (ex. FireTV / Shield) can be on another device (Philips implementation of Android-TV) etc. since they both are running Android.
My TV running Android-TV hasn't implemented something called "Android Mode Setting API" for instance and that caused some issues with an app (according to the devs).
So I can totally get that even through having the same platform - Android - different hardware can treat it differently depending on different hardware specs or implementations of Android.
However the question as where to find a reputable source of the APK remains, just googling it reveals a lot of different download locations where a lot seems really...sketchy.
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LG 2018 model TVs just got an update that gives them Apple TV app, so may be there is hope for Android TV devices
LG rolls out Apple TV app for select 2018 smart TVs:
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/20/lg-rolls-out-apple-tv-app-for-select-2018-smart-tvs
Any updates to this? i was about to start a new thread, when i came across this.
I got a free year of Apple TV+ with my iPhone 11 Pro Max for work, and just recently switched from Roku to the Chromecast with Google TV.
My fiancé got into one of the shows and i'd like to sideload the APK, if possible, if there's one that works.
Well, there is strictly Android TV version now (it was released with software update for some Sony TVs), but it also fails to work on other devices (says software update is required) - Source.