Foolish and frustrated; I refuse to belief that I now have just a light up Nexus 5 paperweight. I had recently purchased a Nexus 5 Android phone and I absolutely loved it. I unlocked and rooted it and had it tweaked and tuned like a thoroughbred. It was clean trimmed and snake quick. I then received the notifications that 5.0 Lollipop was available to download and upgrade to I was keen to see how much better my phone could be. The upgrade downloaded fine but the installation failed again and again, so I thought I might have installed an app or something that may be interfering with the 5.0 upgrade. I figured wiping and resetting to stock would allow the upgrade and then I would just fine tune it again.
I clicked to wipe and reset – The phone indicated that the wipe was successful but then the phone went black and then lit up with the black and white Google Logo and that is where it remains. (A lit up paperweight)
Is there any way this phone can be salvaged?
Again needing a phone I purchased another Nexus 5 and although the tweaking I had down to the first one far outperformed this new one, I have not done anything other than upgrade it to 5.0 Lollipop.
I would love it if I can resuscitate the first one and just use the second new one as back up phone.
Is there any hope?
Boot into bootloader and flash the update manually. Ota only work on pure stock set ups.
zelendel said:
Boot into bootloader and flash the update manually. Ota only work on pure stock set ups.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I would love to try that fix, how exactly would I go about doing that?
cjangione said:
Thank you very much for your reply. I would love to try that fix, how exactly would I go about doing that?
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Check the nexus 4 section for everything going you need
For anybody that wants to go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0 I can confirm it works great, I just flashed back with Odin. The 4.4.4 firmware is at sammobile right below the lollipop firmware. The 4.4.4 flash put it into a bootloop to which I then factory reset and it started up perfectly with none of the completely unusable issues I was having.
Bummed out that I can't use lollipop for the time being, but more than relieved that I have a usable phone again, I thought it was toast.Lollipop made my phone worthless, literally couldn't do anything, major bootloops and constant crashes.
I made another thread about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/help/reboots-lollipop-t3090421
You should retry the upgrade, it's faster and more stable. You just had a corrupted file or something, if you really want the best is worth a try. It's 40% faster. There was just something wrong with your install.
Did you do a factory reset when you upgraded? A lot of Note 4 users who upgraded had similar issues which a factory reset corrected.
I took the upgrade and found it to be faster and more reliable as well. Still fingers crossed for a root exploit. At least we know if an exploit ever happens for 4.4.4 then we can downgrade to get it. Good to know!
Oh really? I thought we couldn't roll back after taking 5.0. I am having a hard time a stable host to download 4.4.4
Can someone help me out with this? <confused>
@ lost perfections:
Success! The 4.4.4 firmware took forever to download but worth it! Thank for this!
KruseLudsMobile said:
You should retry the upgrade, it's faster and more stable. You just had a corrupted file or something, if you really want the best is worth a try. It's 40% faster. There was just something wrong with your install.
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Trust me I really wanted it and tried all the usual steps. I think something is wrong with my phones hardware that works mostly ok on this version. I actually stayed on an old version for a very long time, I rooted "root de la vega" and took one ota using the supersu option to keep root when using an ota. The next update after that would not work for me, I would have had to wipe and odin to update, so I held off thinking I wasn't missing anything. Till about a week or less after 4.4.4 came out then my phone started crashing the moment I received or made a call. I hadn't gotten any new apps or anything like that but just in case I factory reset to see if it fixed with no luck. So I finally upgraded via odin, no root now, but miraculously my phone could make calls again. I am giving you this essay because I have a feeling this issue is related. It seems it's my phones hardware that is messed up and i'm just lucky that 4.4.4 works at all. I still have issues every couple days where I make or receive a call and hear nothing, with a reboot needed to fix, that is confirmed still after a fresh install of 4.4.4 after all the 5.0 stuff I tried. Anyways thats why I think it's my phone. I wish I had an extended warranty so I could just update and make a claim.
As for everything I tried in the update, I took the ota, which was literally unusable by anybodys standard, I could use the phone for about 5-20ish seconds before it would crash, turning the sound to mute would help, but still crash at a couple minutes of use. I downloaded the firmware and flashed via Odin, same exact issues, changed nothing. Did several factory resets between all these steps. I kind of walked through the process on that thread I posted in the OP.
After making this thread I did try it one last time and flashed via odin, knowing that I had a workable fix, but same exact thing again. If they release another update I'll try then, but looks like I'm stuck till then at least.
Reilly1812 said:
Did you do a factory reset when you upgraded? A lot of Note 4 users who upgraded had similar issues which a factory reset corrected.
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Yeah I did anything and everything I could, no luck. I think my phone itself is the problem.
sameog said:
@ lost perfections:
Success! The 4.4.4 firmware took forever to download but worth it! Thank for this!
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Awesome, glad it helped. I'm SO glad they didn't block the ability to do this, I'd have been out a phone if they had.
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Awesome, glad it helped. I'm SO glad they didn't block the ability to do this, I'd have been out a phone if they had.
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?
I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?
I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
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You can use any radio with any rom. Just flash the modem file via flash app or Odin.
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You can use any radio with any rom. Just flash the modem file via flash app or Odin.
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Are you certain I can use a KitKat radio on lollipop? Verizon Note 3. If so, I'll do that right now.
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Are you certain I can use a KitKat radio on lollipop? Verizon Note 3. If so, I'll do that right now.
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I haven't done it, but I have mixed radios and roms before for example kitkat radio with JB rom.
Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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No matter what....once you go to lollipop, you can NOT go back to any earlier version.
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Doesn't the OP state that you can revert back?
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?.
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Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
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Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
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Okay, to anyone whose interested: I used Odin 3.09 & NK1 (most current VZW build of 4.4.4) and it worked. Phone went into a bootloop, started recovery did a factory reset an it's back to normal.
Lollipop ran fine on my phone-probably because I reset it as soon as I updated...BUT, my data signal was halved. I get a weak LTE signal at work and by weak I mean 1 or 2 bars 105-115DB at best. Old brick building and I work in the basement. On lollipop, it wouldn't hold onto LTE anymore. It'd flip between 1x/3g..usually settling on 3G. Voice was unaffected. Hopefully they sort this out but this sort of signal performance (especially when it was fine on KK) is unacceptable.
Rolling back to NK1 has solved that. Thanks to the OP!
I can also confirm that flashing 4.4.4 NK1 from 5.0.0 OB6 works.
Tried it myself, but after I got done playing with it I went back to 5.0.0 OB6 afterwards.
I didn't look to see if it kept the 5.0.0 radio when downgrading to 4.4.4, but it kept the 5.0.0 boot loader.
I did not test the radio (as I didn't have a usable sim card at the time.)
Also, don't try to run URDLV on the 4.4.4 firmware before flashing, it will not boot (even with a factory reset.)
But I didn't try to flash a modified 4.4.4 firmware after 4.4.4 was already on there.
so just so I understand there's no root for 4.4.4 or 5.0 but it's possible to go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0 ?
Long story short I have an M7 running 4.4.2 on AT&T that I haven't touched in about a year. I just booted it up everything is working properly except when I go to Software Update it tells me the software is up to date and that I can check again in 24 hours.
I've tried rebooting, no luck. Any other ideas? Thanks!
When you say you haven't touched it in a year, do you mean you don't use the phone at all? Or that you just haven't updated or modified it? If you just don't use the phone and don't mind starting from scratch you can run the 7.23.502.1 RUU. You can download it directly from HTC, http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html. I used this a couple of weeks ago and everything went smoothly and the phone runs great.
If you don't want to go that route and want the OTA, some have suggested changing the date on your phone ahead a few days and trying Software Update again. It may trigger the update. I have never tried that so can't say for sure if it'll work. And I haven't seen the OTA zips posted to update it manually.
I was running a custom L ROM until recently... Switched to testing some custom M ROMs... went well, then decided to go stock M. I used a TWRP backup someone posted for the initial upgrade. It completed, and was a laggy mess. I ran that way for three days. No updates.
fast forward to now...
last weekend I flashed full, proper stock M ROM (the DLOAD folder trick)
Within 30 minutes of first boot, I got an OTA- Cust something or other update
I accepted it.
Now, I see a new section in About Phone- it's labeled Custom version
What the heck is this?
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I was running a custom L ROM until recently... Switched to testing some custom M ROMs... went well, then decided to go stock M. I used a TWRP backup someone posted for the initial upgrade. It completed, and was a laggy mess. I ran that way for three days. No updates.
fast forward to now...
last weekend I flashed full, proper stock M ROM (the DLOAD folder trick)
Within 30 minutes of first boot, I got an OTA- Cust something or other update
I accepted it.
Now, I see a new section in About Phone- it's labeled Custom version
What the heck is this?
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I saw the cust update in my updater and thought it was the result of downloading a custom recovery. However, I downloaded the full firmware package from the Huawei site and extracted it. The documentation also referred to cust. It appears that this update was so minor that rather than change the version/build, they just added in the cust part. Weird. But I went ahead and accepted the update through updater, and it installed just fine without wiping my apps and data. I did revert to stock recovery and unrooted before I did so, of course.
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I saw the cust update in my updater and thought it was the result of downloading a custom recovery. However, I downloaded the full firmware package from the Huawei site and extracted it. The documentation also referred to cust. It appears that this update was so minor that rather than change the version/build, they just added in the cust part. Weird. But I went ahead and accepted the update through updater, and it installed just fine without wiping my apps and data. I did revert to stock recovery and unrooted before I did so, of course.
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Noticed anything different? Does it run any smoother? I had to go back to CM13 as it just seems like my phone starts to slow down after a few days on stock MM.
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Noticed anything different? Does it run any smoother? I had to go back to CM13 as it just seems like my phone starts to slow down after a few days on stock MM.
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It's only been a day, but I'll say that there seems to be a slight improvement in battery life and memory utilization. Someone mentioned that this patch was supposed to improve the GPS performance but I haven't had a chance to test that. Speedwise, I haven't had any slowdown issues before or after the update. Then again, I'm coming from a 1st gen Moto E so by comparison anything else seems lightning fast. As long as they keep pumping out solid updates, I'm gonna stick with stock.
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It's only been a day, but I'll say that there seems to be a slight improvement in battery life and memory utilization. Someone mentioned that this patch was supposed to improve the GPS performance but I haven't had a chance to test that. Speedwise, I haven't had any slowdown issues before or after the update. Then again, I'm coming from a 1st gen Moto E so by comparison anything else seems lightning fast. As long as they keep pumping out solid updates, I'm gonna stick with stock.
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I got this cust update a few days ago and it seems to have fixed my GPS issues. Maps used to take forever to get a GPS fix and frequently lost the fix every few minutes. Now it gets a fix in seconds and I haven't had a dropout yet.
When I first installed the update, the internal storage was showing up as 2GB. Couldn't figure out why so I just did a factory reset and everything is back to normal (internal storage reporting as 16GB), and the GPS still works well after the reset.
Recently my phone started rebooting in random moments. After doing some research I think that some system files are corrupted. I tried doing factory reset in recovery, but thats not what I wanted because my system version is still 7.0, while initially it was 6.0 and the problem still occurs. Is there a way to do complete reset to factory setting and restore system?
There's no way back to 6.0 for now unfortunately, updating to 7.0 updates the bootloader so any attempt to flash 6.0 back with a pc will leave the phone unable to boot. I think a signed bootloader from 6.0 would be required, and hasn't been released.
There are ways to re flash the stock firmware of 7.0, but I'm not sure if that'd help as I did that recently and still get the occasional reboot.
You also get this random reboots? Is it more common problem?
Your best bet is probably to find an alternative download for the same firmware you have now. Hopefully that helps.
I OTA'd to Nougat the day I got my Z, it was on MM, and all is well. So not sure it's an issue with N itself, more likely corrupt download, as you said.
No, you cant downgrade, not without great risk. Same for all Moto's these days.
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You also get this random reboots? Is it more common problem?
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Yeah i do get them but rarely, and i am on a custom kernel so it could be that causing it for me. If factory reset doesn't help I would try flashing stock Nougat again.