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So the quick/dirty is my tablet's seeming to loose battery rapidly during 'sleep' (hit
power button, screen off). Not always, but sometimes.. Atleast ~10% per 8 hours, about 20% in ~3 hours in the attached BetteryBatteryStats (was away, didn't touch it, went from ~42% to 22%), is this normal?
The first time I noticed it the tablet was at about 72 pct (then I slept), 8 hours later it was sub 30. My phone was next to it in comparison went from 98 to 92 during the same period.
I've not rooted the tablet but I installed the GoLauncher, nothing in the battery stats (attached) seem to jump out at me, other than the WiFi waking it up 291 times?
Do I need to manually disable WiFi every time I hit the power button?
What kind of idle times are you guys seeing?
I'm pretty sure if I left this sitting for ~34 hours it'd be dead, seems kinda crazy that it can't get better standby time then that, my Droid Incredible sitting idle can last at least 3 days and that's fetching email and facebook messenger. In fact I think that's a deal breaker and i'll be returning this thing if I don't see improvement, the tablet's a quick/handy thing to use now and again, but if I have to wait about as long as it takes my laptop to start up (full bootup) then I don't see much use.
I had a similar problem. A full day of light usage and it's down to under 50%. I had to charge every day. Battery usage said it's mostly the wifi.
So I installed "Juice Defender plus" ($2) from android market. And set it to let the defender automatically enable and disable wifi, plus let it auto disable wifi after one minute if it's not connected to a network. Also set it to disable connectivity in the middle of the night.
After nearly 2 days of slightly above my normally light usage, the battery is still at over 70%.
please check the other thread regarding the battery life. I did a factory restore, and it seems to improve battery performance.
rvr350 said:
please check the other thread regarding the battery life. I did a factory restore, and it seems to improve battery performance.
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I'll give that a shot and report back, kind of a pain to have to do that after just a few days, worries me long term
In regards to the Juice App, i'm not really interested in rooting ATM, not sure if i'm sold on this thing yet, the potential is there but there are several things I just can't get used to on it yet, like navigating around apps (lack of back button, bar being on the bottom), and terribly missing the optical sensor (droid incredible) and auto complete. And B&N's App Store is a pretty sad sight in comparison.
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I'll give that a shot and report back, kind of a pain to have to do that after just a few days, worries me long term
In regards to the Juice App, i'm not really interested in rooting ATM, not sure if i'm sold on this thing yet, the potential is there but there are several things I just can't get used to on it yet, like navigating around apps (lack of back button, bar being on the bottom), and terribly missing the optical sensor (droid incredible) and auto complete. And B&N's App Store is a pretty sad sight in comparison.
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At least on your last point, one of the best reasons to root is to gain access to the android and amazon marketplace. Forget the B&N store, except for maybe books.
Disabling the BN cloud service seems to increase the battery life a lot. I used app quarantine to disabled the service.
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The first time I noticed it the tablet was at about 72 pct (then I slept), 8 hours later it was sub 30. QUOTE]
What do you have syncing? I have nothing on this except Go Launcher, Amazon Store, Solataire and MXPlayer. No email or social networks going and mine lost 4% while sleeping for 8 hours.
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We had a problem almost exactly like this when the first GB kernels were being ported over to the SGS. The solution was to toggle the WiFi sleep policy to anything then set it to "Never."
This should help with a lot of the wake-up/plugged-in drain that you are experiencing.
I tried all of the battery tricks in this forum to get manageable battery life, but I could not make it to 3 pm no matter what and I refuse to cripple my smart phone any more - this was enough:
Wi-fi off
Wi-fi-calling off
Volte off
Location off
Display auto
Email sync 1 account - 30 min
The phone would deep sleep and my SOT was not over 3 hours ever- but I could never make it much past 3pm on a normal day. Maybe a got a bad phone, but I remorsed on the last day possible.
I have an M9 and am getting longer battery w/o all of the crippling above. Should I try an S6 or another S6 Edge? I love the phone and camera but accept TW, should I wait for the G4?
aaronc_98 said:
I tried all of the battery tricks in this forum to get manageable battery life, but I could not make it to 3 pm no matter what and I refuse to cripple my smart phone any more - this was enough:
Wi-fi off
Wi-fi-calling off
Volte off
Location off
Display auto
Email sync 1 account - 30 min
The phone would deep sleep and my SOT was not over 3 hours ever- but I could never make it much past 3pm on a normal day. Maybe a got a bad phone, but I remorsed on the last day possible.
I have an M9 and am getting longer battery w/o all of the crippling above. Should I try an S6 or another S6 Edge? I love the phone and camera but accept TW, should I wait for the G4?
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Just an FYI, I have both the M9 and the 2 of the S6 edge phones. I get about 15hrs/3 hrs SOT on S6, my wife gets almost 20hrs w/ 5 hrs SOT on hers! We use the phone in different ways. She is on facebook and texting. I am on email, texting, remote desktop & games. However, on the M9 I was getting about 30 minutes more than S6. Not a huge amount but it was slightly more. However, after using the M9 for almost a month and now having the S6, I'm returning the M9. Mainly due to the camera. I have kids and S6 is a much better spontaneous camera for consistently capturing a good image. Plus the screen makes the M9 look pale in comparison.
Did you try a Wipe Cache Partition and Wipe Data/Factory Reset under Recovery Menu? A lot of people have done the reset and the phone is getting now almost double the Battery life they were getting before, just by doing that, plus all the little tweaks about VoLTE and Wifi Calling and other bloat you should disable anyway.
Mine has giving me nothing but great battery life averaging 5.5 SoT since I git it on the 10th, BUT, I knew there was an update pending so I turned on the phone the first time, skipped all initial settings except the Wifi, it downloaded and installed the T-Mobile Update and then immediately I went to recovery menu and did the wipes then set the phone for the first time, working great since day 1.
erasat said:
Did you try a Wipe Cache Partition and Wipe Data/Factory Reset under Recovery Menu? A lot of people have done the reset and the phone is getting now almost double the Battery life they were getting before, just by doing that, plus all the little tweaks about VoLTE and Wifi Calling and other bloat you should disable anyway.
Mine has giving me nothing but great battery life averaging 5.5 SoT since I git it on the 10th, BUT, I knew there was an update pending so I turned on the phone the first time, skipped all initial settings except the Wifi, it downloaded and installed the T-Mobile Update and then immediately I went to recovery menu and did the wipes then set the phone for the first time, working great since day 1.
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Yes - I did that and it did not really change much. I think that I must have had a bad one...
You can make of this what you will as I have no idea if my singular experience plays out but I traded a white Edge in for the black color Edge and the new handset has much better battery life. Also the fingerprint scanner worked perfectly from the first try on the new handset and was about 50% on the white phone I turned in. And yes I tried all the suggestions for improving the fingerprint detection, watched the youtube videos, no luck. I stopped using it all together. I did all the revert, reflash, reset, wipe, turn off every thing under the sun, etc for the first handset to try and improve battery life but no joy. I still only get around 4 hours screen on before I'm down to the 20 percent range which isn't great but enough for me. It also matches my expectation for what is nowadays a small battery in a heavily bloated phone. My first handset was in the upper 2 hour to low 3 hour range in the same use with no wake locks detected and deep sleep occurring. Keep in mind I've been on Android from the very begining so I'm not unfamiliar with hunting down battery hogs, wake locks, etc.
I had planned on giving this one a go and if it was the same as the first one moving on to the next thing or else keeping it if it wasn't. Turns out I'm keeping and I'm glad, its a pretty little sucker...
ok- I am going to try another S6E and see if I get one with a good battery
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ok- I am going to try another S6E and see if I get one with a good battery
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Also, please try to investigate what apps may be draining the battery. After 16hrs., I'm at 47% battery life. I think that's pretty good.
Post real life experiences with stock version of final M.
Still waiting for OTA.
Marshmallow is way better than Lollipop. I am waiting for new method to root it.
there already is (elemental)
It certainly does fix a lot of the lag around the UI as it also does on the Nexus 6. All in all a pretty good update, although I can't comment on battery life yet.
Before I give my thoughts I should point out that at this point I'm wondering if something was wrong with my N9 on Lollipop....
So far M has improved my experience with my N9 roughly eleventy billion percent. Some previous issues I had with tablet were:
- If any app(s) were updating... set it down and come back later. It was completely unusable while apps were updating and they took forever. My N4 remains completely usable and apps installed WAY faster
- Rebooting was a similar situation. I dreaded rebooting my tab (even though it would briefly perform much better) because of the amount of time it took
- General slowness/lag/reloading of apps. Every time I used my tab it would just have moments where it would stall out.... so if I was swiping between pages on my home screen I'd see part of one and part of the other and it would sit there for a second or two. Often if I was reading an article in the newsstand app and wanted to view it in the browser I would debate if I wanted to wait for it to load (obviously worse the more tabs that were open). I could be in Chrome reading XDA or something and then go out to reply to a single hangouts message and then go back to chrome and have to wait as it once again reloads everything
- Random battery drain. Sometimes I'd charge it to full and just leave it sitting on my nightstand and come back a day later and its at like 60%
So far in Marshmallow (granted its only been about 24 hours) every one of those issues seems to have been completely fixed. Its sort of mind boggling actually. Previously when I grabbed the tablet I prepared myself for an exercise in frustration. Now I pick it up with that same worry but after mere seconds of using it I completely forget about it and just zip around as one would expect. I was initially quite unhappy with my purchase and have sort of been keeping an eye out for a good deal on another tab but if my N9 stays working like it is now I will have no reason to bother looking around
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Post real life experiences with stock version of final M.
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I sideloaded the OTAs a few days ago. After some sporadic but reasonably heavy use, initial comments are:
-- Memory management is better. I can now consistently have 3-4 Chrome tabs open without tab refreshing. This was my only real complaint about the N9 previously, and 6.0 appears to have cured (or significantly mitigated) it.
-- I really like being able to tweak the quick settings panel via the UI Tuner to get rid of stuff I rarely use. (Press and hold the gear icon in the quick settings panel to reveal the UI tuner in the full settings menu (right by developer options).)
-- I can't believe they took the time/energy to modify the notifications shade so that it pulls down from where your finger swipes, instead of always from the middle. Seems an utter waste of time but what do I know.
-- I don't see a huge difference in battery life. But, I have things set so that very few apps have push notifications active so doze doesn't really have my use case in mind. Battery life is certainly not worse.
-- I like having an actual date on the security update status.
-- On tap is nice, I suppose, but not really groundbreaking.
-- Love, love, love the permissions control. So far I have turned off some permissions for a number of older apps not coded for 6.0, and gotten the warning about the apps not being coded for it, but the apps still seem to work. I just wish you could fine tune the permissions grouped by app instead of grouped by permissions (i.e., see a list of controls per app, instead of a list of controls for each app under each permission). Am I missing that somewhere?
-- Overall, there are some refinements/improvements and it does not appear to have introduced any bugs. That is a successful update in my book.
+1 to everything you said. The stand by time is amazing on both my N9 and N5. Just a few percent loss over night and through half the next day. I'm very pleased.
I've been very pleased with Marshmallow. Lollipop was incredibly frustrating on my N9- I've rarely used it over the last 5 months due to it being extremely unresponsive, particularly in Chrome. It's much better now- but I have to wonder how much of the improvement was due to starting fresh (I flashed a factory image) versus improvements in Marshmallow itself. It's only been a couple days, so we'll see how it holds up over the next month.
As others have noted, battery life during actual use doesn't seem any better, but stand-by time for me is greatly improved. There's very little drain over night.
Why does LG think it's ok to ship a watch with a 12 hour battery life, with minimal use. Just setting up the watch took %40 battery
Without sacrificing screen brightness is there anything to be done?? Is there any sort of root + cpu app we can lower CPU speed with??
Did you uncheck always on screen? Only option I have off and notice decent battery life for the entire day.
Mine goes for 16 hours once completely setup. If you start downloading and setting up this will surely tax the battery on any watch. The 240MAH doesn't help, but once setup it should be fine afterwards.
I had the LG G Watch R (w/ 420MAH) prior and setting up took a good deal of the battery but at EOD was at 65%, while the Style is at 40%.....understandable given the size of the battery.
I found mine was going dead by mid afternoon with little use.
I found turning auto screen brightness off and just leaving it on 4 helps. Also think after a couple of weeks use it's got better anyway. Usually on about 40-50% by the time I leave work.
Main problem I have is the little dial on the side is in a crop place, so my hand keeps pressing it an making assistant listen, eating up battery.
Really wish there was a screen rotation option so I could wear the watch with the dial on the opposite side.
Oh well!
I would like to see more options for ambient mode. I think the brightness is too high. I've only found one watchface that lets you control the color in ambient mode. It's called "line". I changed the ambient color to just red and decreased the opacity of the lines and complications. I've been off the charger for about an hour, received a few notifications and I'm still @ 99%. Might be a fluke, but I'm sure using a single color uses less battery than using white, which is all 3 colors combined.
This is my third smartwatch in 2 weeks. I've downgraded twice because others are just too bulky. I'm sure there's a solution out there. I hope battery life gets better in time with updates. I hate this range anxiety.
I just bought one and it is still too early to tell but battery life is fine for me. If I disable Bluetooth (which I know defeats the purpose of it) and WiFi with no ambient, it lasted me about 2 1/2 days (but I do turn it off at night since I have no need to keep it on while I sleep). If I keep Bluetooth on, no WiFi, and no ambient, it lasts the entire day (13 or 14 hours) with about 40% left. I have to do more testing (especially with ambient). You don't want the watch face on all the time anyway because it will cause screen burn-in. Some of the watch face apps allow you to use an ambient where it is usually black and white with less information showing.
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Same here.
I looked everywhere. My battery is dead, it drops from 100% to around 30% as I disconnect it from the charger.
Even if we find the battery, the replacement looks hard. I was hoping to just get the Pixel Watch but I guess that's not going to happen.
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I got my Pixel 6 today and was actually planning to switch from my iPhone 13 Pro. However, the auto brightness seems to bei very very sensitive to me, even If I stay in the same position with same light conditions it changes very hard. Die you think this ist a Bug or is my device defective? Any expierences?
It is using what Google call Adaptive brightness, when this was introduced it was hopeless on my Pixel 2 XL, but as they said, if you keep adjusting the brightness it does tend to learn over time, and after severa days on the Pixel 2 it always seemed spot on, and I've not touched the brightness slider in years!
Now on the Pixel 6 (I'm using the Pro) I find the brightness is all over the place again and I keep needing to adjust it all the time. In a dark room it keeps pushing the brightness back up, so I'm hoping the same is true and after a few days it will learn how I like it.
So give it couple of days is my advice, just keep adjusting it.
I'm more worried about the SOT. I haven't heard anything on Pixel 6, but for Pixel 6 Pro, the SOT can range from 3-4 to 6-7 hours. The spread is just too wide to accept!
Any findings elsewhere? Thanks.
Toms guide has some numbers, with the Google Pixel 6 Pro at 7 hours 53 minutes in their testing, see the chart and tests at https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/google-pixel-6-battery-life-tested-we-have-bad-news
I'm not sure how their test script works exactly. If it just loads as many pages as possible a faster phone may churn through more content and so uses more data and power. I.e. is it a real world test or torture test they used?
The phones over 4G appeared to get a couple of hours extra, pointing towards 5G with the Samsung modem perhaps not so well optimised or just not as good at power management as modems from Qualcomm. It could just be a local issue when they tested those devices and 5G signal was not so good or hit a more distant cell. Who knows.
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It is using what Google call Adaptive brightness, when this was introduced it was hopeless on my Pixel 2 XL, but as they said, if you keep adjusting the brightness it does tend to learn over time, and after severa days on the Pixel 2 it always seemed spot on, and I've not touched the brightness slider in years!
Now on the Pixel 6 (I'm using the Pro) I find the brightness is all over the place again and I keep needing to adjust it all the time. In a dark room it keeps pushing the brightness back up, so I'm hoping the same is true and after a few days it will learn how I like it.
So give it couple of days is my advice, just keep adjusting it.
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you are exactly right. The only time I have to ajust the brightness is when i get a new pixel for the first few days or after a factory reset. So I belive this is normal behavior. After you have made the ajustments to the way you like it it will learn and do it for you.
I hope this learning this is true because it's driving me mad at the moment. I can be sitting there on the phone and the slightest movement brightens or dims the screen. I'm using the slider but so far not noticed.
Same issue and they are correct with learning. Just heads up, I believe the sensor is in the camera strip so when you use the phone landscape playing games, be sure not to cover it. They should have an option in game mode later to disable adaptive when playing games.
I think I'm going manual.