Is the moto 360 2015 dead ? - Moto 360 2015

It has been 2 years I have a moto 360 2nd gen and now I see that this watch still have no custom firmware, and also no real development comunity behind. We can also see that there is almost no spare parts that you can buy (there is no good tutorial on how to open it). And we won't have more updates on it !
What do you think ?

You do know that it's a 3 years old model, right??
Do u know any other devices being updated after so many years?
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0

RASTAVIPER said:
You do know that it's a 3 years old model, right??
Do u know any other devices being updated after so many years?
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Sorry but I agree with the poster.
A quick look on Sony Smartwatch 3 (Released November 2014) Development and original Development forums can give you the answer.
Moto 360 Sport (my smartwatch) was announced in September 2015 and officially released on January 2016 (so 2 years and half and not three).
But with a minimum support and no chance of having a developer support. It is unknown how to unlock bootloader and root it (without mentioning that to my knowledge no ROM dump is around).
I'm checking if a Ticwatch S can be a good replacement but I also read that google has a suprise on the end of 2018 so better to wait a while.
Bye

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[Q] z2 official support expiration

Since sony seem to release a flagship each 6 months.. what is the support expiration for the z2? can we expect getting at least 2 years support?
Depends on what you mean by support? I'd hope we'll see support for new Android versions for at least another 18 months, but I suppose it depends if Google move to x64 for Android M .
ghostofcain said:
Depends on what you mean by support? I'd hope we'll see support for new Android versions for at least another 18 months, but I suppose it depends if Google move to x64 for Android M .
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getting android updates like Android L for example.
ghostofcain said:
Depends on what you mean by support? I'd hope we'll see support for new Android versions for at least another 18 months, but I suppose it depends if Google move to x64 for Android M .
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at least 18 month..... heh... wishful thinking.
Z got just 12 moths of android updates.
Z2 will get "L", no doubt about it. Don't think we will see "M" on our Z2 officially (even if the hardware allows).
Xperia Z launched March 2013 latest official update (4.4.2) May 2014 and Xperia blog has it that 4.4.4 is on its way.
18 months official support
ends in mid october 2015 as noted by sony customer support
-may be stretched if the device is popular
ghostofcain said:
Xperia Z launched March 2013 latest official update (4.4.2) May 2014 and Xperia blog has it that 4.4.4 is on its way.
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I will drink a beer (or something stronger) if it happens

Yotaphone 3

Hi all,
I have 2 Yotaphones 2 (one for private use, one company). Great devises, especially the business use. Now my son's birthday is coming up and he wants a Yotaphone, too (no iPhone! . Does anyone know what happened to the yotaphone 3? It was announced to be released in Q1 this year in cooperation with ZTE to increase availability and reduce price. Since then (Q3 2015), nothing has happened.
Does anyone know more?
Cheers
Andreas
Grimus07 said:
Hi all,
I have 2 Yotaphones 2 (one for private use, one company). Great devises, especially the business use. Now my son's birthday is coming up and he wants a Yotaphone, too (no iPhone! . Does anyone know what happened to the yotaphone 3? It was announced to be released in Q1 this year in cooperation with ZTE to increase availability and reduce price. Since then (Q3 2015), nothing has happened.
Does anyone know more?
Cheers
Andreas
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Based on a few Russian articles I found, it would seem that their new Chinese overlords were not willing to take the risk launching Yotaphone 3 during the original Summer of 2016 launch window. And now that the window has closed, so they have to renew the device specs to match the market. The new estimate would be Summer of 2017 earliest.
Source: http://izvestia.ru/news/632694 (you can get the main idea with Google Translate)
It was confirmed by yota that it's in development. Probably it will be available this year (2017)
The Instagram account of Yota Devices unexpectedly displayed a new post in early march mentioning the 3rd generation of their device :
https://www.slashgear.com/the-yotaphone-3-is-still-coming-or-so-it-seems-06477241/
That's all we get since the time they abruptly went in silent service.
A five inch colour e-ink screen would truly be aweinspiring
With latest news it seems that Chinese stakeholders don't want to put their money for the launching of YotaPhone 3 as of now (which russians have already developed-designed). Hence, postponing its launch obliges YotaDevices to re-do from scratch the designed YotaPhone 3, because hardware components become old rapidly.
Yesterday I saw a YD206 for 95€ on AliExpress and I think it's worth it, expecially with the MM update coming out.
Do you guys know what the teaser on the website is about? Could it really be the Yotaphone 3? I honestly didn't expect that any more.
https://yotaphone.com/ru-ru/
Waiting for Yotaphone 3 Hisense annunce A2 Ace, i find some information on the web and wrote here.
rien-ne-va-plus said:
Do you guys know what the teaser on the website is about? Could it really be the Yotaphone 3? I honestly didn't expect that any more.
https://yotaphone.com/ru-ru/
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It's about YotaPhone 3 for sure: one of the articles about it
TheArt. said:
It's about YotaPhone 3 for sure: one of the articles about it
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I'm sorry but that's hardly an article - it just guesses and adds no information to what I wrote above.
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Waiting for Yotaphone 3 Hisense annunce A2 Ace, i find some information on the web and wrote here.
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There have been a number of rumors around other dual screen phones, none of which I've seen on the market yet. At some point even the Xiami Mi4 was supposed to come with dual screen...
at youtube - hisense a2 at ces 2017
seeing their EPD, got ghosting and black is still "gray". maybe later they will improve it.
for me compare to yotaphone 2 more better but until MM update.. more ghosting..
but for yotaphone 3 teaser image, shape nearly same with hisense a2..
Ok, so the design of yota3 is kind of iphonenish...
here are some related posts
https://mixom.by/news/rassekrecheni-izobrajeniya-yotaphone-3
https://twitter.com/search?q=#YotaPhone3
http://andro-news.com/news/yotaphone-3-yota-3-na-oficialnyh-press-renderah.html
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4xLUYriP..._f1078e9398ac44069e28519e90fee764+%281%29.jpg
Does it have back lighting as new kindles?
Finally we see it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csdJ6rHH59w
4GB of RAM, and hte other specs as we commented before
I like it!
Hi all,
https://youtu.be/E1sYIb1AHE4
and
https://youtu.be/wrdvLOgRaP4
Competition:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...-Core-LTE-4G-5-5-Inch-Double/32807157386.html
Found a site that ships Y3 to US (for $650).
https://www.cect-shop.com/en/yota-y...-octa-core-2-0ghz-4g-lte-android-o-v2953.html
and on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/YotaPhone-...var=492358420547&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Just got the Yotaphone 3 as a gift. Has dual SIM slots (2nd SIM doubles as a TF card).
I can install Google package from it's appstore BUT can't get contact to sync with Google; Google contact apps doesn't work properly.
The 2nd screen only works with Kindle China version only (can log in with US account).
Overall an intriguing phone but not practical for me unless there's a non-China version.
I just received the hisense a2 from China here in United States. And. It seems to work quite well on att with the option to mirror full android on eink. If you cannot mirror the main screen on the eink screen in yp3 this is a mistake in the software design. Yp2 offered full android on the eink side In their latest russian firmware.
I have just bought the Yotaphone 3, however I can't mirror the main screen onto the eink screen of my Yota 3. I have the Yotaphone 2, so would there by a way to port the Yotahub/Yotacover/Yotapanel apps from the 2 to the 3? Also, all the instructions are in Chinese which is slightly annoying. Do you think the mirroring function would be added later by an update? Thanks
Possible YP3 Changes.
Depends on if the same developers (as YP2) are responsible for the updates in YP3 (HK).
In YP2, they prioritized RU versions (not the HK version). But some of the firmware changes/useful addons over time were significant with EU/HK and especially RU.
With the new CN/RU partnership, who knows. I am waiting until someone (preferably in English) demonstrates a good software update with YP3 (and a decrease in price) before pulling the trigger.

Newbie Planning To Get Moto Z

Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
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Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
41LY45 said:
Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It's brand new if I get Verizon variant. I am not into photography that much. I am looking for a better Snapdragon processor with the good amount of RAM so that it still holds resell value in the future. If I opt for a mid-range device like Xiaomi or Huawei I am getting a good deal in 200$ but then it would not hold much resell values after 6-9 months.
PS. I see that you Malaysian too
Ampicillin said:
Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
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Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
Defaultnickname said:
Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
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Okay, I will check it out :good:

Android 8.0.0 Oreo for Galaxy C7 SM-C7000 ?

hi everyone
i just wonder when we can get Android 8 oreo for Galaxy C7
such a smartphone with this performances 4G of ram, 64go internal memory, powerfull processor qualcomm 626 (8 X 2.02 ghz) ,1080p resolution.................
why theres no develepments for this device ?
no roms port no custom roms !
hope android 8 come soon
Oreo will not come for the C7. Samsung has a specific update policy. S, A and Note series are getting two major updates. The other series are either getting a major update or not at all. For example, the J series gets one major update. The C series is a local series. The C series is a special series to the far east. It is also now joined with the J series. The other name of C8 is J7+. As a result, if the J-series receives the single major update, the C-series also receives the single major update. The only major update of the C7 was Nougat.
Do not hope for Oreo.
ok i get it thank you so what about custom roms ported roms ?? also there's no development for it !!!
Musdi27 said:
Oreo will not come for the C7. Samsung has a specific update policy. S, A and Note series are getting two major updates. The other series are either getting a major update or not at all. For example, the J series gets one major update. The C series is a local series. The C series is a special series to the far east. It is also now joined with the J series. The other name of C8 is J7+. As a result, if the J-series receives the single major update, the C-series also receives the single major update. The only major update of the C7 was Nougat.
Do not hope for Oreo.
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No!, C-series will have two major system update!
Samsung has recently post a notice in the Samsung Members app, the notice said that it will have Oreo update in October!
And also the what u said in your word, that all J-series won't have two major system update,but J7 Prime will have Oreo update too
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Today, I have a question and I got this answer. This is good news for us but there is always the possibility that Samsung can change this calendar. Because in the past, Samsung had deleted many devices in the Nougat update calendar and did not update them. They have already written that they can change it in the answer they give. All we can do is trust Samsung and wait to update.
By the way, the comments I made about the single update of the J series came up as a result of my observations. I have information about this in my country as a source at epey.com. The site is writing the first Android version and the latest Android version of the devices. If you take a good look, you will get something like: S, Note and A series devices are getting two major updates and the other series are either getting single updates or not updating at all.
The C series is a new series. For this reason I can not make a definite comment. But C8 is called J7 + in different countries. And since the J-series gets one big update, I think it's the C-series too.
In the old Nougat update calendar, many devices from series J would receive the second major update. But the times were all removed from the calendar. I said I should trust Samsung, but not trusting is the best option. We will be happy if the update comes, but we will not be sorry if it does not.
JalenHo said:
No!, C-series will have two major system update!
Samsung has recently post a notice in the Samsung Members app, the notice said that it will have Oreo update in October!
And also the what u said in your word, that all J-series won't have two major system update,but J7 Prime will have Oreo update too
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Bro, look at this screenshot:
https://i.hizliresim.com/X6M7Mo.jpg
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Musdi27 said:
Bro, look at this screenshot:
https://i.hizliresim.com/X6M7Mo.jpg
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Can can't go to that website
JalenHo said:
No!, C-series will have two major system update!
Samsung has recently post a notice in the Samsung Members app, the notice said that it will have Oreo update in October!
And also the what u said in your word, that all J-series won't have two major system update,but J7 Prime will have Oreo update too
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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JalenHo said:
Can can't go to that website
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I upload it here
https://image.ibb.co/nGRTBK/Screenshot_20180801_112047.jpg
Musdi27 said:
Today, I have a question and I got this answer. This is good news for us but there is always the possibility that Samsung can change this calendar. Because in the past, Samsung had deleted many devices in the Nougat update calendar and did not update them. They have already written that they can change it in the answer they give. All we can do is trust Samsung and wait to update.
By the way, the comments I made about the single update of the J series came up as a result of my observations. I have information about this in my country as a source at epey.com. The site is writing the first Android version and the latest Android version of the devices. If you take a good look, you will get something like: S, Note and A series devices are getting two major updates and the other series are either getting single updates or not updating at all.
The C series is a new series. For this reason I can not make a definite comment. But C8 is called J7 + in different countries. And since the J-series gets one big update, I think it's the C-series too.
In the old Nougat update calendar, many devices from series J would receive the second major update. But the times were all removed from the calendar. I said I should trust Samsung, but not trusting is the best option. We will be happy if the update comes, but we will not be sorry if it does not.
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But what if Samsung change it's rules of system update?
Likes Apple, they maybe change their rules by giving two update on C and J series, and three update for S,Note and A series. Like what Apple did on their iPhones, they give their iPhones three iOS update, iPhone 5s get iOS 12!
So I think Samsung may change their rules by comparing to Apple
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I upload it here
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OK
JalenHo said:
But what if Samsung change it's rules of system update?
Likes Apple, they maybe change their rules by giving two update on C and J series, and three update for S,Note and A series. Like what Apple did on their iPhones, they give their iPhones three iOS update, iPhone 5s get iOS 12!
So I think Samsung may change their rules by comparing to Apple
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Apple was already giving more updates than 2 major updates. The iPhone 4S came out with iOS 5, but was updated up to 9.3. The iPhone 5 came out with iOS 6, but was updated up to 10. The iPhone 5S came out with iOS 7, but was updated up to 11 and this is the latest update of iPhone 5S. So Apple gives 4 major updates. Samsung always gives 2 major updates to some models.
Of course, Samsung can make changes in the update policy. But as I tell you, Samsung is a brand that can remove many devices from the list over time.
I say again: If the update comes, we will be happy. But let's not hope for updates. If the update does not come, we will not be bad. :good:
Musdi27 said:
Apple was already giving more updates than 2 major updates. The iPhone 4S came out with iOS 5, but was updated up to 9.3. The iPhone 5 came out with iOS 6, but was updated up to 10. The iPhone 5S came out with iOS 7, but was updated up to 11 and this is the latest update of iPhone 5S. So Apple gives 4 major updates. Samsung always gives 2 major updates to some models.
Of course, Samsung can make changes in the update policy. But as I tell you, Samsung is a brand that can remove many devices from the list over time.
I say again: If the update comes, we will be happy. But let's not hope for updates. If the update does not come, we will not be bad. :good:
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Correct:iPhone 5s now is available for iOS 12 Beta!
Musdi27 said:
Today, I have a question and I got this answer. This is good news for us but there is always the possibility that Samsung can change this calendar. Because in the past, Samsung had deleted many devices in the Nougat update calendar and did not update them. They have already written that they can change it in the answer they give. All we can do is trust Samsung and wait to update.
By the way, the comments I made about the single update of the J series came up as a result of my observations. I have information about this in my country as a source at epey.com. The site is writing the first Android version and the latest Android version of the devices. If you take a good look, you will get something like: S, Note and A series devices are getting two major updates and the other series are either getting single updates or not updating at all.
The C series is a new series. For this reason I can not make a definite comment. But C8 is called J7 + in different countries. And since the J-series gets one big update, I think it's the C-series too.
In the old Nougat update calendar, many devices from series J would receive the second major update. But the times were all removed from the calendar. I said I should trust Samsung, but not trusting is the best option. We will be happy if the update comes, but we will not be sorry if it does not.
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Hi, maybe all C series have two major update, because C9 Pro in Open China already having Oreo update.
Hi oreo coming to our sm-c7000?
JalenHo said:
No!, C-series will have two major system update!
Samsung has recently post a notice in the Samsung Members app, the notice said that it will have Oreo update in October!
And also the what u said in your word, that all J-series won't have two major system update,but J7 Prime will have Oreo update too
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Bro.. How u find this notice i can't see on mine
When ll i get oreo on my c7 pro
javad0644 said:
Hi oreo coming to our sm-c7000
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When???
enginorsel said:
Bro.. How u find this notice i can't see on mine
When ll i get oreo on my c7 pro
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Bro I saw that notice in the Samsung Members app notice section, it is named Oreo Update Schedule Notice.
And when it comes, idk what exactly when, but according to the notice it'll probably come out on October.
Bro, I'm confused too about the update, because I have many Samsung phones and I don't know if they can get Oreo or the future Android 9 Pie.:laugh:
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enginorsel said:
Bro.. How u find this notice i can't see on mine
When ll i get oreo on my c7 pro
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Bro I saw that notice in the Samsung Members app notice section, it is named Oreo Update Schedule Notice.
And when it comes, idk what exactly when, but according to the notice it'll probably come out on October.
Bro, I'm confused about the update too , because I have many Samsung phones and I don't know if they can get Oreo or the future Android 9 Pie.:laugh:
JalenHo said:
Bro I saw that notice in the Samsung Members app notice section, it is named Oreo Update Schedule Notice.
And when it comes, idk what exactly when, but according to the notice it'll probably come out on October.
Bro, I'm confused too about the update, because I have many Samsung phones and I don't know if they can get Oreo or the future Android 9 Pie.:laugh:
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Bro I saw that notice in the Samsung Members app notice section, it is named Oreo Update Schedule Notice.
And when it comes, idk what exactly when, but according to the notice it'll probably come out on October.
Bro, I'm confused about the update too , because I have many Samsung phones and I don't know if they can get Oreo or the future Android 9 Pie.:laugh:
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Everyone knows this is Samsung:silly:
Yes i found too Oreo Update Schedule Notice on Members app but i don't see C7 Pro in the list as u can see on my above post screenshot attachments...
Now i found screenshot of some sources..:
But i can't see still this list...
enginorsel said:
Everyone knows this is Samsung:silly:
Yes i found too Oreo Update Schedule Notice on Members app but i don't see C7 Pro in the list as u can see on my above post screenshot attachments...
Now i found screenshot of some sources..:
But i can't see still this list...
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IDK
JalenHo said:
Hi, maybe all C series have two major update, because C9 Pro in Open China already having Oreo update.
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Well, we can see C7 Pro have beta update of Android 8.0.0 on SamMobile. But it doesn't mean all C series will get that. May get as you said. Because there is two reasons;
-Pro C series come with 6.0.1 stock. But Samsung changed their UI like Android 7.
- That series released in 2017.
I can't understand Samsung in this regard. There is Android 7.1 available when they released. But why Samsung stayed on the 6.0.1.. I don't know.
In short... On mine opinion don't hope to 2016 C series will get Oreo... May get, may not. Depends on Samsung...
Oreo cooming soooooooon????

No security updates since 6 months

Hello
My device (COL-L29) didn't receive any updates since April, did Huawei stopp updating the device?
I sent to the support but they said that they are testing something.
There's an August 2020 update coming soon. I've got two Honor 10's here, one has already been updated. Officially the Honor 10 has been available for two years in may (released may 2018) and I kind of expected nothing after april/may 2020 as I expected just 2 years of updates.
Anyone here play PubG? The performance getting bad at pubg.. And yeah there's no update after emui 10.1
I doesn't play any games on my device but I format it every two weeks or three to maintain the performance, it's an issue with all android phones
dysje said:
There's an August 2020 update coming soon. I've got two Honor 10's here, one has already been updated. Officially the Honor 10 has been available for two years in may (released may 2018) and I kind of expected nothing after april/may 2020 as I expected just 2 years of updates.
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Still didn't get any updates

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