Root detected for Unrooted ROM - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

Hi ,
I recently Unrooted my phone by flashing Stock BRE5 ROM. I am able to use banking apps without problem. But when I try to use samsung apps, I get errors. For example Samsung Pass detects the device as rooted. SAMSUNG PAY is also not working . Please note that I have used 3rd party app and it confirms device is not rooted and also it passed safety net check. Please help me with a solution to this. I don't use Samsung PAY but I need to sell the device and need these services to be activated.

harry92008 said:
Hi ,
I recently Unrooted my phone by flashing Stock BRE5 ROM. I am able to use banking apps without problem. But when I try to use samsung apps, I get errors. For example Samsung Pass detects the device as rooted. SAMSUNG PAY is also not working . Please note that I have used 3rd party app and it confirms device is not rooted and also it passed safety net check. Please help me with a solution to this. I don't use Samsung PAY but I need to sell the device and need these services to be activated.
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if you have already been rooted Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, so the Knox container will no longer work for you. regardless of your samsung unroot and used FW stock
You have already discarded your device and you will not sell it advantageously. the future owner will check it out first, of course, if it's not stupid

You mean to say..there is no way to go back after tripping Knox?

What's done is done buddy....

All right..

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[Q] Rooted or not ?

I recently rooted my phone using method 3 (root from stock recovery) from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217840
It kind of worked and i was able to run the root applications.
But then i decided to unroot and did so from superSU's unroot option.
It worked and i dont see rooted anywhere (no triangle or flash counter)
except when i try to update. It says "your device has been modified. Software upgrades are unavailable"
Now im facing battery problems with my phone and want to go for replacement since its under warrenty. So my questions is would they be able to find out i rooted it and deny me replacement ?
Rooting doesn't shows any special effects to your phone but its required for some apps. And about battery problems, try to check new battery from the market
HIT THANKS WHENEVER POSSIBLE OR IF I HELPED YOU...
Check in your device specific forum.
Chainfire's app Triangle Away could restore your system status to official (but requires root). And make sure its compatible with your device.

Samsung Pay App From Tripped to Non-Tripped Know SM-G925F

Hey Guys, I have 2 SM-G925F phones, an older one with a cracked screen and new one I got today. I had originally updated to 5.1.1 on the older phone, installed Samsung pay on it and worked fine. I rooted the phone and tripped knox due to the new kernel. When I got my new phone, I updated it to the stock 5.1.1 and tried to download Samsung pay on it but it says the app isn't supported on my device, even though it had work previously. Any recommendations on how to fix this? Is there someway I can reset my google/play account as to showing my new Edge that doesn't have Knox tripped? Thanks!
Where did you install from?
The pay app? I downloaded it originally from the Google play store.
I have to search because I didn't find on playstore
You won't be able to find it in the playstore if your phone is rooted, it shows as "unable to install on your device"
Also, you won't find it if the phone isn't from a supported carrier. I have the international G925F and I had to sideload the framework and the app though I can't get it to work.

How do i restore superuser and titanium backup ?

Hello ,
About a year ago i rooted my phone using kingroot , however i did not replace the kingroot su with super user app the reason for that was because i just wanted to delete some bloatware on my device and then would remove root again .
I proceeded with downloading Titanium Backup and deleted some of the bloatware among which i deleted the default email app from the phone . Not knowing how to properly remove root access from the phone i simply deleted kingroot believing that this would make me lose root access on the phone .
The problem now is that i need to restore the default email app which i previously deleted because an error message keeps popping up on my phone repeadetly ( Unfortunately , Email has stopped ) and it has gotten to the point where the phone is almost unusable . What i want to know is this :
1- Is it possible to install just the kingroot superuser or some other super user so i can use root to download titanium backup again ?
2- Will titanium backup be able to restore the default email app after i download it ?
Oh wow okay you have a few options. One is to use the SuperSUme app to replace kingroot super user with SuperSU. First, you can try downloading superSU from the play store and then titanium backup. I'm not sure if titanium backup will bring back your e-mail app or not. I guess it depends if you backed it up. When all else fails, you can use the flash fire app (given you have superSU) to flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file. This will take you back to 100% stock with root. If that even fails your last option is to use ODIN on your PC to flash the stock ODIN firmware file for whatever firmware you are on. If you want to unroot, getting superSU is a must because it has an unroot option built in.
All of the files I mentioned are either found here in the forums and/or on the play store. Do note that if you're going to use flash fire, the only version you can use is version 0.53.
Lastly, I have written a guide here that may help you with rooting in the future. https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...h-i545-pl1-t3846576/post77710697#post77710697
StoneyJSG said:
Oh wow okay you have a few options. One is to use the SuperSUme app to replace kingroot super user with SuperSU. First, you can try downloading superSU from the play store and then titanium backup. I'm not sure if titanium backup will bring back your e-mail app or not. I guess it depends if you backed it up. When all else fails, you can use the flash fire app (given you have superSU) to flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file. This will take you back to 100% stock with root. If that even fails your last option is to use ODIN on your PC to flash the stock ODIN firmware file for whatever firmware you are on. If you want to unroot, getting superSU is a must because it has an unroot option built in.
All of the files I mentioned are either found here in the forums and/or on the play store. Do note that if you're going to use flash fire, the only version you can use is version 0.53.
Lastly, I have written a guide here that may help you with rooting in the future. https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...h-i545-pl1-t3846576/post77710697#post77710697
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Hello and thanks for the reply , I tried getting SuperSU but it doesn't show up on my play store .
Is it possible to use Odin to flash the stock 5.0.1 ROM for my phone without the superuser and will that reset the phone and return the e-mail app ?
Also assuming this way will work where can i get Odin ?
And also will this interfere with the carrier ? Since the phone is VZW but i am using it on another carrier not in USA currently , will that make the phone unusable with other carriers or its quite unlikely ?
Thanks in advance and sorry to bother you once again ,
maxman32 said:
Hello and thanks for the reply , I tried getting SuperSU but it doesn't show up on my play store .
Is it possible to use Odin to flash the stock 5.0.1 ROM for my phone without the superuser and will that reset the phone and return the e-mail app ?
Also assuming this way will work where can i get Odin ?
And also will this interfere with the carrier ? Since the phone is VZW but i am using it on another carrier not in USA currently , will that make the phone unusable with other carriers or its quite unlikely ?
Thanks in advance and sorry to bother you once again ,
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You will need to get the superSU apk file off the web and install it from there then. You can flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file with flash fire 0.53 and that will give you 100% stock with root. You can also flash the ODIN full stock .tar file found here in the forums and that will also get you back to 100% stock.
The Verizon galaxy s4 is carrier unlocked. To use data though you have to set the correct APN settings for the network you are using. I have AT&T and have used my SIM card in my Verizon galaxy s4 before.
StoneyJSG said:
You will need to get the superSU apk file off the web and install it from there then. You can flash the OF1_rooted_stock_ROM file with flash fire 0.53 and that will give you 100% stock with root. You can also flash the ODIN full stock .tar file found here in the forums and that will also get you back to 100% stock.
The Verizon galaxy s4 is carrier unlocked. To use data though you have to set the correct APN settings for the network you are using. I have AT&T and have used my SIM card in my Verizon galaxy s4 before.
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Actually i flashed the official OF1 firmware with odin and it restored the default apps without any problems .
I don't know if this means the phone was unrooted before but several root checkers i tried said that the phone was rooted but the superuser app was missing .
Nevertheless , i thank you for helping me out it might seem little but its thanks to you that i turned to odin and now my phone is in a perfect condition
Yep as I said you can flash the ODIN tar file for OF1 and get back to 100% stock. Good thing that did it for you. As for superSU, you can get it off chain fire website I believe.
If you ODIN back to stock, it more than likely unrooted. Odd that root checker says you're rooted. No problem, glad to help whenever I can. Happy flashing!

I have some questions about after rooting

I started to think about rooting my g960f, it is a week year old device and the ads in apps annoys me so much. I will be using root to disable bixby through root uninstaller, if you have any other suggestions please tell. also I will be using mother of adblock, if you have any other suggestions please tell. I still have some questions.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
I wont be installing custom rom as I already liked the stock rom but it needs some modification. I am sure that most of the people has the same questions in their minds so your answers would help many.
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
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As long as all you did was root the phone and did not change the OS to a custom one you should be able to get OTA updates. You should be able to install OTA updates normally, but you will loose the root install and have to do it again. Since OTA updates may patch any exploits a root install tool may use you might not be able to root the phone again (at least not until the root utility is updated to use a different method) after an update, so keep that in mind.
Pandemicc said:
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
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Once you root you might very well trip Knox. If Knox is tripped Samsung Pay, Secure folders is what I can find Google Searching and searching the forum here as what wouldn't work Samsung app wise. S-Health would also stop working, but I've read about potential ways to make S-health work again. I am not sure if those ways still work or not.
Other apps (financial, etc) may not work if the phone is rooted..
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
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Sort of... Knox secure apps like S-health, Secure Folders, Samsung Pay will not work. Once you trip knox they will not work on the device ever again. This is because once knox is tripped it is tripped, it's a hardware e-fuse. You can not fix it nor reset it.
Other apps that just detected whether root is installed (or being used) should return to normal
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
Why root the device? You can use Adhell3 and block all the ads using knox itself
Pandemicc said:
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
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Personally I don't have a suggestion on a root method for your phone, but I do suggest you do some research on the subject. You can also look in the Galaxy S9 topic on XDA as that is the model you said you were using (G960F). In all honesty your gonna want to read up on what the process entails, what issues you might encounter and the risks involved... This is kind of a one way trip (metaphorically and essentially literally speaking) because if you trip knox (which you most likely will) you will void any warranty as well as permanently loose rather useful functionality on the phone (Samsung pay does come in handy IMHO). Not to mention root weakens the security of the phone and if your not careful you could (not saying you will, but could) run into a lot of problems.
Granted I am not saying you shouldn't root your phone but I am suggesting that in your case there is a more simpler method of doing what you want to do. Adhell3 was suggested and it's an app I use as well. Adhell3 will allow you to configure knox to do what you are seeking.. Knox can be configured to serve as a system wide ad blocking and it can be used as a way to disable apps on the phone (including bixby). There is more it can do, but I would suggest reading up on it (I can't give you all the answers, your gonna have to discover them also). Since your not trying to install an custom OS or changing cpu governors, cpu frequencies or anything Xposed related I would suggest looking into Adhell3 since that will do what you want without messing with Knox (or any potential issues with your phone from rooting). Also Adhell3 is not a permanent change to the phone, it can be fully removed, it doesn't weaken the security of the phone by allowing root access to the Android OS and file system on the phone and it will survive OTA updates.
Also if your looking to cut down on advertisements in applications I would suggest not installing as many.. Adblocking whether by hosts file or Adhell3 works by blocking the dns lookup of an advertisement. Both methods are not 100% perfect because if an advertisement comes from the same domain as where you are accessing (like facebook or Youtube sometimes do) then the advertisement will still be shown. Still to cut down on advertisements I would suggest going with Adhell3 over root.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
KevAngelo14 said:
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
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Remember to include Xprivacylua to inhibit apps from seeing what apps you have installed. Have helped me out using bank apps as well

Can I root my S9 plus without installing TWRP recovery ?

I have a Smasung S9 Plus SM-g965F with Exynos on android 10, I would need to get root but I would like to avoid to install TWRP recovery, can I do it with the stock recovery?
Thanks.
light767 said:
I have a Smasung S9 Plus SM-g965F with Exynos on android 10, I would need to get root but I would like to avoid to install TWRP recovery, can I do it with the stock recovery?
Thanks.
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you can't use stock recovery you will need twrp
If you want to install magisk without twrp use the patch method
I have tried kingroot with no success it get stuck at 1%.
If I use magisk by patching the stock rom, then when an official samsung update comes out I can do it automatically as always?
By the way how can I check if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked ?
light767 said:
I have tried kingroot with no success it get stuck at 1%.
If I use magisk by patching the stock rom, then when an official samsung update comes out I can do it automatically as always?
By the way how can I check if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked ?
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In develop section check to see if unlock option is there.
Download mode will tell you OEM state as well as KG/RMM state
If you modify your phone you won't get updates. Have to do manually.
Be aware rooting you phone will trip your knox. Won't be able to use knox related functions like secure folder,samsung pass, shealth etc.
spawnlives said:
In develop section check to see if unlock option is there.
Download mode will tell you OEM state as well as KG/RMM state
If you modify your phone you won't get updates. Have to do manually.
Be aware rooting you phone will trip your knox. Won't be able to use knox related functions like secure folder,samsung pass, shealth etc.
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ACtually I need root to try to recover some files on the internal memory with some data recovery programs...after that I don't need root anymore so maybe I could go back to full stock?
light767 said:
ACtually I need root to try to recover some files on the internal memory with some data recovery programs...after that I don't need root anymore so maybe I could go back to full stock?
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Once your modified phone knox will be tripped even when flash firmware again. There is no fix for a tripped knox.
If trying to recover lost files then using the patched method with magisk is a better option then using twrp.
I don't have much experience with recovering lost files as i have not had the need for it but i would try some non root methods first before rooting.
If you decide to root your phone you can unroot by magisk or flashing stock firmware.
Always backup your phone before doing anything.
Sadly all these program (one of the most famous is Dr. Fone) that go scanning the memory for deleted files need the privileges of root so I think that without rooting the phone it's not possible to do it anyway if I would lost the knox securty by rooting I'm not that happy too
"You may try looking into Extreme Syndicate root. It's used on the Snapdragon variants to root with a locked bootloader, so it doesn't trip Knox. I don't know if it will work on Exynos, but worth a look."
Editing doesn't work right on my phone. This won't work.

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